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Both Parties Are Not The Same. VOTE.

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Ari Melber: Today’s entire Hobby Lobby ruling on religious freedom in two quotes — from Ginsburg and Alito:

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99 Responses to “Both Parties Are Not The Same. VOTE.”


  1. 1 No Child Left Behind
    June 30, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Hello!

  2. 2 No Child Left Behind
    June 30, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    The Teabaggers inside the Supreme Court gave a blow to women today.

  3. 8 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    Congrats to earning a Au and Ag :star: to NCLB

  4. 10 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    For those so inclined to read the entire ruling

  5. 11 Nerdy Wonka
    June 30, 2014 at 1:37 pm

  6. 13 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/earnest-on-hobby-lobby-ruling-the-constitutional-lawyer-in-the-oval-office-disagrees/

    Earnest’s response [emphasis added]:

    As the constitutional lawyer that sits in the Oval Office would tell you: He would read the entire decision before he passed judgment, in terms of his own legal analysis. What we have been able to assess so far — based on the preliminary reading of that decision — is that there is a problem that has been exposed, which is that there are now a group of women of an indeterminate size who no longer have access to free contraceptive coverage simply because of some religious views that are held, not by them necessarily, but by their bosses. We disagree and the constitutional lawyer in the Oval Office disagrees with that conclusion from the Supreme Court. Primarily, because there is concern about the impact it could have on the health of those women. Ultimately, the goal of the Affordable Care Act — remember — was to provide greater freedom to Americans to allow them to make more decisions and have access to more options as they seek health care coverage. And that’s the source of the concern that we have. And that’s the problem that we want Congress to fix.

  7. 14 JER
    June 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    Although the reproductive rights community is reeling from the implications of the Hobby Lobby decision, the legal fights may not be over. There’s been some speculation that Hobby Lobby employees may be able file a Civil Rights Act Title VII complaint, on the grounds that the company is treating female employees differently than male employees by refusing to cover gender-specific health services. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/06/30/3453902/hobby-lobby-means-for-your-health-care/

    • 15 No Child Left Behind
      June 30, 2014 at 1:39 pm

      JER, I hope they do!

    • 16 Nena20409
      June 30, 2014 at 1:44 pm

      They can sue, but watch these same SCOTUS reject it and would Never entertain the law suit should it gets pass the Superior Courts.

      After Citizen United on Jan 21st 2010, they struck down MT almost 100yrs old Political Fiance Laws.

    • 17 GGail
      June 30, 2014 at 1:47 pm

      Where’s Gloria Allred? This should be a case she would enjoy filing

  8. 18 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Yes!

    TOD will Blast in to 26M before 4 O’Clock pm CDT.

    25,998,786 hits

    WTG TOD!

    • 19 MightyPamela
      June 30, 2014 at 1:54 pm

      Woke up late and was worried I’d missed the party! Y’all have a great day, thank you for the intelligent and stimulating debates, and thank you for making it practical to share vital information! Bye for now! ;)

  9. 20 GGail
    June 30, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    We reap what we sow.

    When apathy clouds our judgement and we (as a country) don’t exercise our right to Vote – all kinds of pandora boxes get kicked open.

    We have a tendency to look the other way when we feel that “it doesn’t affect me”, why should I care…until it does affect you and by then the damage has begun.

    We Women and supporters of Women’s Rights to Choose, should be truly Fired Up and Ready to Vote come November. We can’t remove these justices, but we can let them hear us ROAR at the Voting Booths this Year!!! If you don’t support women’s rights, then we don’t support you.

    • 21 Nerdy Wonka
      June 30, 2014 at 1:46 pm

      Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

    • 23 jacquelineoboomer
      June 30, 2014 at 1:47 pm

      h/t GGail

    • 25 Nena20409
      June 30, 2014 at 1:48 pm

      Apathy comes from rules that Folks think as unjust and unfair.

      The very reason the GOP use the media today to lie, distort and misinform the public. The views of a few…..in this case, a dwindling GOP , diminishing Caucasian electorate and the very affluent are pushed constantly and loudly over the many and struggling few.

    • 26 amk for obama
      June 30, 2014 at 1:51 pm

      Yup. Plato said this centuries ago and the sheeple still haven’t’ learnt it.

      One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

  10. 27 globalcitizenlinda
    June 30, 2014 at 1:49 pm

    Today is one of those days when the Supreme Court reminds everyone about the enormity of the task of fighting for Socio-economic justice & equality against entitled corporations & their bigoted extremist & vocal religious zealots supporters;

    Given the record of decisions this SCOTUS has handed down in the last few years, I am not surprised by their decisions this terms.

    But yes, I am extremely angry just reading their rulings;

    I also recognize how hard ordinary people have to work against the entrenched interests – if we are to have any chance of continuing to move forward like PBO envisions & this world requires;

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  11. 28 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    :( France is Up 2-0

    Only Algeria is left from the African Continent.

    Funny who Europe has many nations still alive compared to other Regions.

    Those who make the Rules, Favor themselves.

  12. 30 jacquelineoboomer
    June 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    This is all so freaking annoying.

    • 31 GGail
      June 30, 2014 at 2:11 pm

      And sadly, we can’t seem to get those earning minimum wage to see that Voting is their Mega-phone.

      • 32 jacquelineoboomer
        June 30, 2014 at 2:20 pm

        And some people – not all – who are supporting families via the minimum wage, unfortunately, have a lot more on their plates than exercising their right to vote. Some don’t have time to keep abreast of today’s ruling or any other rulings, or feel powerless to do anything about them. Big numbers of people.

        That’s why “corporations” can do a great deal of harm, if their corporate boards and/or owners are of that ilk.

        We must keep trying to GOTV – it isn’t hopeless – but we can’t always count on some of the less fortunate. In fact, some of them can’t even get time off to vote or hitch a ride or whatever. That leaves all of the men and women, young and old, who are paying attention and can easily vote … obviously not all of them do, either … and that leaves *us* with the megaphone! We are still the ones we’ve been waiting for!

        Did that make sense? I’m so torqued I barely know what I’m writing.

        • 33 GGail
          June 30, 2014 at 2:29 pm

          Yes, J’OB, I hear you. But I remember how badly my grandparents and my parents and people of that generation wanted so badly to vote and what those hard working people who had very little education did to achieve that goal…to Vote. I remember my mother coming home from work and a couple of her girlfriends would sit around the dining room table late into the night so they could learn how to vote. And then we would have card parties on the weekend so others could come and learn.

          I come back to that word apathy

          • 34 jacquelineoboomer
            June 30, 2014 at 2:56 pm

            Of course you are right, and I didn’t mean to discount that in any way. (I can just picture your mother and her girlfriends! Probably where you got your own fire!) And that’s a proud history, which continues all the way to the voting booths of today.

            Just trying to come back to that word empathy, in an attempt to figure out WHY some people don’t vote now. But this is also a continuing truth, across the ages: the haves will always try to keep down the have nots, so they can rule. Minimum wage is one way, and it affects a lot more than just the food on the table.

  13. June 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm

  14. 36 Nerdy Wonka
    June 30, 2014 at 1:57 pm

  15. 38 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    According to RBG, these are the other “closely held” corporations this ruling could affect..

    http://www.forbes.com/largest-private-companies/list/

  16. 39 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Jozy Altidore is Ready to Play Futbol for US ;)

    My 1st ;) since 10:00 AM plus today.

  17. 40 jacquelineoboomer
    June 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm

  18. June 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    HEADS UP

  19. 45 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    http://electionlawblog.org/?p=62877 #HobbyLobby: When is Congress “Wise?” When the Court Agrees with Congress’s Wisdom

    The Court has shown no such deference when it comes to the need for campaign finance regulation or to protect the voting rights of racial minorities and others. The Roberts Court has overturned or limited every campaign finance law it has examined (aside from disclosure laws). It has struck down a key provision of the Voting Rights Act. How much deference did Congress get in those cases? None.

    Well when is Congress wise and entitled to deference? When the Court agrees with Congress’s approach. Let’s call that “faux deference,” to go with the “faux-nanimity” of the rest of the term.

  20. 46 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    25,999,996 hits

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    26, 000, 000 Hits and counting!

    • June 30, 2014 at 2:11 pm

      GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

      Congrats Chips and NW!! We love you beyond words!!

    • 48 vcprezofan2
      June 30, 2014 at 2:14 pm

      This is funny. I’ve updated twice since and my screen is still showing 25,999,996 hits! Hmmm. Definite proof that my computer is behind everyone else’s.

      • 49 vcprezofan2
        June 30, 2014 at 2:15 pm

        Now I have a genuine excuse….oops ..reason for being so often tardy in arriving at the new post. :grin:

      • 50 Nena20409
        June 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm

        Mine too and that was 3-5 minutes before that posting.

        I did refresh my post 4 Times before that posting Too. So I claimed 26, 000, 000 based on my own reloading…… ;) :) ;)

  21. 52 57andfemale
    June 30, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    I. Am. Without. Words. on Alito’s reasoning.

    The rights of the ‘people in charge of the corporation’?!?!?! What about the employees, what about the rights of customers, what about any other rights?

    This is the incremental turning of these United States over to the Christian Taliban. This is outrageous.

  22. 53 Bill R.
    June 30, 2014 at 2:09 pm

  23. 54 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    The Avenging Uterus… http://vimeo.com/51034354

  24. 55 57andfemale
    June 30, 2014 at 2:12 pm

  25. June 30, 2014 at 2:15 pm

  26. 57 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    I see we need 4 more to reach the magic 26,000,000…

  27. 58 Bill R.
    June 30, 2014 at 2:15 pm

  28. 59 kasai
    June 30, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    It is a Great Day at TODS!

    26M Here we come:-) 3….2….1….

    Yaahoo!!!!!!! Celebrate!!!! ((((CHIPS..NW…LL…LP…ZIZI)))) and all the wonderful contributors .

  29. June 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm

  30. 63 57andfemale
    June 30, 2014 at 2:19 pm

  31. 67 kasai
    June 30, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    • 68 Nena20409
      June 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm

      Is Hobbly Lobby in Mass? I bet they are.

      • 69 kasai
        June 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm

        They all over the place…..

        • 70 jackiegrumbacher
          June 30, 2014 at 2:31 pm

          Well, Kasai, Woolworths used to be all over the place, as was Montgomery Ward and they both had better stock. What is today, is not necessarily what will be if we work together.

        • 71 Nena20409
          June 30, 2014 at 2:39 pm

          Yes indeed. I suppose MA is No longer part of the original 13 states let alone the current 50 states. I am sure the Lawyers provided that information to the SCOTUS and yet, Roberts who in 2012, he ALONE wicked weakened ACA, has once again joined his activists to religiously ruled with their ideological undocumented biases. One this is crystal clear……in the future, it will be harder to get Justices like Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts to the Supreme Court.

      • 72 0388jojothecat
        June 30, 2014 at 2:43 pm

        BOYCOTT Hobby Lobby. They opened two stores in SoCal. I think women need to put them out-of-business to do no more harm.

  32. 73 japa21
    June 30, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Just as I said last Monday at this exact time, “This time next week we will hit 26 Million” and we do. So boring being so right all the time. :)

  33. 75 sjterrid
    June 30, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Congratulations on 26 million hits, TOD!

    • June 30, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      Thank yoooooou sjterrid!!!!

      • 77 sjterrid
        June 30, 2014 at 2:29 pm

        It’s funny, because I kept updating the post because it kept showing 25,999,996. Figured it must have hit 26 million by now.

        Congrats to you, NW, and all BT’s for all you do. You’re better than all of MSM in getting the real news out.

  34. 78 kasai
    June 30, 2014 at 2:21 pm

  35. 79 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    25,999,996 hits

    Please Drop the 4, 3, 2, 1 tiny bits and Let the Party explode :lol:

    It’s been over 25 mins ;)

    I am talking to YOU, :wordpress:

  36. June 30, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Will have a heads up in a bit for:

    2:50 EDT President Obama Delivers a Statement on Immigration Reform

  37. 82 57andfemale
    June 30, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Charlie Pierce has an excellent history of this can of worms law, RFRA:

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/

  38. 84 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    That counter is off! :) More comments and still stuck on 25,999,996 What in the world!

  39. 85 japa21
    June 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    and suddenly it is 26,000,686

  40. 86 kasai
    June 30, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    26,000,686 hits…LOL!

  41. 87 jackiegrumbacher
    June 30, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    To Nerdy and everyone else who has rage in their hearts today: we will triumph in the end. The archaic mindset that governs the right wing of SCOTUS does not belong this era or the changing demographics of this country. Their voices speak from another century and with their starched collars and supercilious faces, they will fade from the landscape like the sepia-colored photos in old albums. We are one seat–only one–away from a modern Supreme Court and we will work, reach out to people, inform, register, GOTV and vote. And we will keep on voting until the balance changes we have a responsive government that works for people of today, not yesterday. Republicans cannot be allowed near the levers of power until they have humbly learned their lesson that we won’t tolerate throwbacks. We will defeat them one by one, state by state, district by district, until we have the government we choose. We will not only see this change, we will make it happen.

  42. 88 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    26,000,686 hits

    Let’s Celebrate……Yes!

    Looks Like We Made it…….Barry Manilow ;)

  43. 89 Nena20409
    June 30, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    :WP: :WP: :WP:

  44. 91 57andfemale
    June 30, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    A Comment from Pierce’s column (I think I’m in fair use territory):

    “Five Points:

    1) Fuck Ralph Nader

    2) Worst thing about Christianity are people like The Greens of Hobby Lobby. They pull out their faith and slather it on like suntan lotion, but only on select days and only in select company. To shop at Hobby Lobby is to say “Fuck women, fuck America. Praise hypocrisy and bait and switch piety.”

    3) All those who said the abortion debate wasn’t just about abortion, another golf clap

    4) This pro-family, pro-Christian company does not provide paid family leave for its employees.

    5) See #1″

  45. 92 Ladyhawke
    June 30, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Pelosi Statement on Supreme Court Hobby Lobby Decision
    ===========================================

    June 30, 2014

    Washington, D.C. – Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement on the Supreme Court’s decision in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, allowing for-profit corporations to exclude birth control coverage in their employees’ insurance plans:

    “Today, the Supreme Court took an outrageous step against the rights of America’s women, setting a dangerous precedent that could permit for-profit corporations to pick and choose which laws to obey. This deeply misguided and destructive decision is a serious blow to Americans’ ability to make their own health decisions.

    “Health care decisions should be made by a woman in consultation with her family, her faith and her doctor – not by her boss, not by insurers, and not by Washington politicians. One of the primary goals of the Affordable Care Act is ending the decades of inequality endured by America’s women forced to settle for less health care at a higher price. Addressing this gender disparity means comprehensive coverage of the full array of women’s health services, period.

    “Although the Court restricted their ruling to ‘closely-held’ companies, this ruling will immediately affect the lives of millions of women across the country. Over 90 percent of America’s businesses are ‘closely-held,’ including such large employers as Koch Industries and Bechtel. Women should not be forced to jump through extra hoops to secure the fundamental health care they need. Allowing employers and CEOs to limit the health care available to employees is a gross violation of their workers’ religious rights. It’s just not her boss’s business. No employer should have the right to limit the health choices of its employees, male or female.”

  46. 94 desertflower
    June 30, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Let’s not forget THIS LITTLE HYPOCRISY!!

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/hobby-lobby-retirement-plan-invested-emergency-contraception-and-abortion-drug-makers

    Hobby Lobby’s Hypocrisy: The Company’s Retirement Plan Invests in Contraception Manufacturers
    When Hobby Lobby filed its case against Obamacare’s contraception mandate, its retirement plan had more than $73 million invested in funds with stakes in contraception makers.

    Pay no attention to that sham of a company behind that curtain!

  47. 95 Dudette
    June 30, 2014 at 2:58 pm

  48. 97 MightyPamela
    June 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    Comment number 26,004,444. TaDa! Y’all are streaking away with to today! Contrary Akins, and WTG, Chipsticks, you Rock!

  49. 98 MightyPamela
    June 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Sheesh, contrary Akins, is Congratulations – to Chipsticks! I am well behind the pages here, and hopefully no one will ever see this beating I’m taking in the final hours as mercury stations! :oops:

  50. 99 Jovie
    June 30, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Emoprogs freak out in 3,2,1…


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