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  1. 38 Obama Grandmama
    July 3, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    Happy 4th tomorrow!

  2. July 3, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Who’s got two thumbs and is going to see Queen with Adam Lambert tonight? THIS GUY! Early Happy 4th, everyone.

  3. 42 99ts
    July 3, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    My 4th of July message – posted just before the new thread – sigh

    Happy July 4th everyone

    It’s already the 4th July in my world & reminds me of the one time I celebrated same in the US – at Fort Belvoir about 40 years ago. Every time Knoller mentions golf at Fort Belvoir I tell myself – I have been there – just one step of separation from PBO :)

  4. 43 Esi
    July 3, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    Today on my drive home, I heard the president’s interview with Kai Ryssdal. Most days, I like to believe the President is essentially an ordinary man, with great intellect, an acute moral compass and who works hard, attributes we mortals can learn from him. However, listening to him today, I was taken aback by his breath of knowledge; I don’t recall meeting another person that is well versed in History, Literature, Finance, pop culture…. He seems to have confidence and humility in equal measure. I am not sure where I am taking this except I am awed to the point he seems almost celestial…

      • 45 vcprezofan2
        July 3, 2014 at 8:54 pm

        Mmmmwah! Meta, you are an absolute sweetheart to have placed this right here! {{Meta}} I am listening to it even……. oops, I lost it halfway through – off to track why, but ‘Thanks!’

    • 46 MightyPamela
      July 3, 2014 at 8:40 pm

      Esi, you are not alone in this feeling and observation. Brilliant and descriptive summary. Thank you!

    • 47 vcprezofan2
      July 3, 2014 at 8:50 pm

      TY for bringing this to our attention, Esi. *I* am awed to the point that I am extremely relaxed with him in charge (which is my way of saying what you said. ;) )

    • 48 jackiegrumbacher
      July 3, 2014 at 9:16 pm

      He is an extraordinary, once-in-a-lifetime man who will one day be fully recognized and appreciated as the great leader he is. Those who try to diminish him or dismiss him reveal the smallness of their own minds and hearts. I think these years have been an instructive measure of people, showing us those who are big enough and smart enough to recognize the character and achievements of this president and those who are too petty, narrow-minded and bigoted to see the greatness in front of them.

      • 49 Esi
        July 3, 2014 at 9:33 pm

        You know, I was going to delete my comment after I typed it (which I do often), I am glad I didn’t. Warmed by your responses and thoughts which are been shared with such clarity and so succinctly. I love you all as if I know you personally, just delurking to let you know.

      • July 4, 2014 at 12:19 am

        “Those who try to diminish him or dismiss him reveal the smallness of their own minds and hearts.”

        Exactly, Jackie G!

        • 52 HZ
          July 4, 2014 at 1:16 am

          Hi nath. Good to see you. Jackie G. always speaks with so much beautiful wisdom and observations. She lifts my heart when I get so upset because we see and know what a great POTUS we have. It hurts like hell sometimes, but I am grateful for people like my brother and his friends who keep me in a beautiful thought pattern of encouragement about our wonderful and hardworking President. They can see him it in action. That keeps me centered a lot. We Will Make This Work Together.

          Nath, have a wonderful 4th celebration with your family and friends.

          Jackie G., thanks for all that you do for POB and all of us here at TOD. Enjoy your 4th celebration tomorrow. HZ

    • 54 99ts
      July 3, 2014 at 9:13 pm

      wowie indeed Meta! Sometimes living by the water is not such a great idea – despite I loved my childhood living 100 yards from the sea.

      • July 3, 2014 at 9:17 pm

        Hey, 99ts! Great to see you around here again!

        • 56 99ts
          July 3, 2014 at 9:25 pm

          I’m always here meta :) – spent a week or too lurking because I was so depressed about political reality here and over there – but the positive vibes of TODers got me back on track. Enjoy your July 4 celebrations!

          • July 3, 2014 at 9:32 pm

            Thanks! I’m not going to do much. There’s great fireworks here but sometimes it’s too foggy to really see it. We’ll see what happens with tomorrow’s weather…….

    • 58 Nena20409
      July 3, 2014 at 9:13 pm

      Wowowow.

      That is as artistically beautiful as it is scary.

  5. 60 carolyn
    July 3, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    His breadth and depth of knowledge are indeed astounding. It is such a privilege, and a pleasure to have a well educated, cultured, well traveled, empathetic president! And we have him for 2 1/2 more years!!! Hurray!

    On another note…….I watched the horror in Murietta California again tonight. Those people made me so angry! They are absolutely despicable. I got so angry I wrote the mayor of the city, and told him his city could be improved by letting the women and children in their city. They would raise the quality of the city. I also told him to remember that all those people yelling such hatred were immigrants themselves: either from another country, another state ( I could hear accents), and the only people not demonstrating were the real natives, the members of the Native American tribes who once lived there. I told him they were embarrassing the entire country in front of the world. I ended by saying this was not the California of the 50s and 60s I lived in and loved.

    Well…..the house is clean, food is cooked, and we are waiting for our son and family to come tonight for the weekend…can hardly wait!!! Steve loves his hometown fourth celebration and parade, so they come up from Dallas at least every other year. Then, after the park celebrations, we’ll all go to our daughter’s and son-in-law’s for dinner. Jeff is a master griller….corn on the cob, chicken, and anything else he decides to have, then home made ice cream and pie…..a glorious day.

    Happy Fourth to all TODers…..see you when the grandkids are gone :-)

    • 61 jackiegrumbacher
      July 3, 2014 at 9:07 pm

      Sounds like a wonderful time, Carolyn. Enjoy every minute.

    • July 3, 2014 at 9:23 pm

      MMMMmmmm, you’re making me hungry!

      I confess I cannot bring myself to watch anything associated with what happened in Murietta. I just can’t stomach the ugliness and cruelty. It’s enough to read about it. UGH.

    • 63 Obama Grandmama
      July 3, 2014 at 10:33 pm

      To me those demonstrators epitomize the selfishness of today’s Republicans. They care only about themselves and what something is going to cost them. Where is their sense of history and “give me your huddled masses” as we are a country of immigrants? The immigration system needs revamping and the GOP House is blocking work on it. All of the Republican recent stunts and the extreme difficulties PBO has faced in fixing their mess only serves to convince me to vote a straight Democratic ticket for the rest of my life.

  6. 64 vcprezofan2
    July 3, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Serious question ( even if you think it’s dumb). Can an i-phone eat up enough of your home bandwidth /internet, enough to cause your laptop to waver in and out, or stutter, cut off? I have a teenager who has recently acquired an iphone and who is now constantly on facebook, listening to music, texting, etc. etc. It has just dawned on me that the acquisition and use may be what’s behind the intermittent glitches I’ve been receiving. Is this a feasible explanation or too farfetched?

    • 65 99ts
      July 3, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      Not unless she is nonstop downloading videos – and even then – I would think doubtful. In my world I find the glitches come in the school holidays when every kid in the neighborhood is doing what your teenager is doing – our exchange can’t cope with the load.

    • July 3, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      Nah. iPhones use cell technology. Your computer is hooked up to broadband. Interesting question, though!

      • 68 vcprezofan2
        July 3, 2014 at 9:26 pm

        You sure the cell technology covers it, Meta? And if so, why did she need to get the code for our wifi? Because she wasn’t able to text her friends etc, until she wangled the code out of offspring, and I’ve only recently been experiencing being frequently kicked off line even while the modem is still very much engaged. None of this makes sense to *me*.

        • 69 99ts
          July 3, 2014 at 9:29 pm

          She is doing what I mentioned below vc – logging into your broadband via the wifi while at home. The texting is different – unless you can use the internet to text – rather than the phone – I have never done that – but no doubt it can be done.

          • 70 vcprezofan2
            July 3, 2014 at 9:37 pm

            I guess I’m trying to find out if there is a consensus that her ‘logging into your broadband via the wifi’ could in anyway impact its strength. Offspring and I both used it before, at the same time, with little problem, now we are both having difficulties, and the strength is always weak, whereas I only recently updated to a faster, more modern modem.

            • 71 99ts
              July 3, 2014 at 9:47 pm

              Definitely not related to the “strength” on the wifi – which would also not be related to the neighborhood usage. Usage can impact the speed of the broadband (which may slow you down) but I think it has nothing to do with the strength of the wifi signal. You should talk to your broadband supplier as to why the weak signal. They would have techo skills to explain – which I do not have!

              It may relate to an issue mine Uncle had – he had the wrong type of modem/wifi for the signals he could receive. I think it related to 3G vs 4G or some such thing.

              • 72 vcprezofan2
                July 3, 2014 at 10:01 pm

                Me too – use my phone to make phone calls and turn it off when I’m not; though very recently I’ve been using it to take pictures because this new phone is really clear. Now that you mention it, I’m reminded that I was told if I used my very new phone (not yet a month old) to get online somewhere where there’s wifi it won’t cost me any of my data time/usage. But that’s another strand in the story and will only confuse me more, since I have no idea why I got data usage for my own phone when I am extremely unlikely to use it. I will only say I was thinking of TOD coupled with me being on the road while the salesman was giving me his spiel.

              • 73 vcprezofan2
                July 3, 2014 at 10:09 pm

                TS, I do thank you for sharing your insight on this matter, while confessing that my “new, faster, more modern modem” came as a result of my talking with my supplier re the weak signal. It has been installed for less than a month to date and cost me close to $200 (modem only, not other fees). I don’t see that it has made a difference, and I frankly hesitate to call them again for fear I get sold something else. I’m no good at phone sales pitches when I believe something being pitched will help a problem I’m having. Thanks all the same for pitching in.

                • 74 99ts
                  July 3, 2014 at 10:36 pm

                  Yep – they are paid to sell – fortunately for the uncle (90yo) they got it right!

                  If possible – ask the lass to stay offline for awhile so you can test – or probably better check it out on a day she is out & you are at home – if that happens!

                  Interesting that the modem was not the problem – you need to find a Mr 99 techo to help – although mine does tend to throw money at such problems when looking for an answer – as he is the bringer in of funds at the minute I cannot complain too much.

                  • 75 vcprezofan2
                    July 3, 2014 at 10:59 pm

                    Yippee. I’ll be at home all next week when they both have full day commitments! I have to go get that shingles shot on Tuesday, but should be around the rest of the week. We’ll see what happens then.

                    The new modem doesn’t seem to be the solution either, if you ask me. I don’t get onto TOD any faster, and that was part of the attraction when I heard this modem’s speed would be faster. ;) Would you mind sending Mr. 99 up here for a week? I really don’t mind buying what is suggested IF ONLY IT WORKS! My experience so far has not been a successful one (including paying into one of those online cleanup computer scams).

        • July 3, 2014 at 9:29 pm

          Oh, then I have no idea what that kind of phone technology is.

          • 77 vcprezofan2
            July 3, 2014 at 9:45 pm

            Me, I don’t even know what kind of phone she has other than an iphone. Thanks for trying to help me understand. At first she was simply listening to music and bemoaning the fact she didn’t have wifi access. Discovering that we do have wifi in the house she got the password for connection, and I’m now trying to ascertain (from all you tech savvy people) if this, maybe, has anything to do with my spotty service.

            Honestly Meta, I dislike technology as much as I dislike when things that are supposed to work don’t. In my world, things are expected to work the way they were advertised without causing me any need for undue attention. :(

            • 78 Nerdy Wonka
              July 3, 2014 at 10:21 pm

              VC, you’re making this more confusing that it really is. Let me see if I can try to help you break it down.

              1. When you have wireless internet at home, the bandwidth is normally a very large range so it should not be cutting in and out. The things that make your laptop or computer act funky are if the device is an old device, is loaded down with crap and needs to be cleaned up, or if there is a storm or some event that is knocking out your internet service or if you have a small bandwidth range and gave like 10 or 20 people the password to your wifi and they’re all using it at the same time.

              2. People who use smartphones usually buy a limited or unlimited amount of data so they can use the internet wherever they are. If someone bought a limited amount of data, the smart thing to do is to connect to any free or password enabled wifi in the area so that you don’t run through your date due to app (applications. Things like Facebook, Twitter, Games, etc.) heavy usage.

              3. The person who asked for your wifi password is doing what I described above. Her connecting to your wifi so that she doesn’t bleed through her data should not impact your wireless service because home internet bandwidths are large in range. If you are getting spotty reception, it might be your modem and you might want to call your internet service provider to determine what is wrong with your connection and especially, your device. Smartphones – iPhone, Samsung Galaxy, etc. do not cause home internet services to have spotty connections when logged in; even while the homeowner is using the internet at the same time.

              • 79 vcprezofan2
                July 3, 2014 at 10:48 pm

                Confusing, and confused, that’s moi! Thanks for trying…and clarifying. Your patience is much appreciated!

                1. Laptop is 4 years old this month, and is likely loaded down with whatever, as I’m always leery about trying to clean it since my only attempt a while back backfired and I lost stuff. At the time I bought my new phone – less than a month ago -I did buy, and install, “iolo System Mechanic -fix and speed up your PC Automatically” I liked the word ‘automatically’, and it came highly recommended by the guy at the phone store who has supposedly been using it, and it alone for years. Maybe it hasn’t started to take effect on *my*
                laptop yet. ;)
                Three people have access to my password ( the 3rd only recently which is why I wondered if that’s the problem), and yes, we all are using it at the same time, in different rooms (Ah, modern family communication)! My bandwidth should be large (if I understand that correctly), especially since I’m paying for extra SOMETHING – though in my last discussion with the company I discovered that I wasn’t even using up the basic provision while I had always been paying for extra.

                2. My teenage guest bought no data as far as I’m aware, yet she is using the apps you mentioned. Could facebook app, for example, be given as part of a one-time gift without the recipient having to pay monthly? [It's because I have lots of questions about this whole iphone thingy about which I'm totally ignorant, that the spotty service issue came to mind.]

                3. So now I have to find out what exactly she has, if she knows. I was told she got it as a gift from a friend (but that’s something else).

                4. MANY THANKS for *your* 1-3!

      • 80 99ts
        July 3, 2014 at 9:27 pm

        My husband logs his phone into our broadband wifi when he is home meta – much cheaper than using the phone company option which gives him only a small allowance per month on the internet – we NEVER get through our broadband allowance :)

        • July 3, 2014 at 9:30 pm

          Hmmm, I had no idea!

          • 82 99ts
            July 3, 2014 at 9:39 pm

            Money saving tips is my second name! I have no idea how to do it despite Mr 99 goes to great lengths to explain. He also logs into free wifi, if available, when we are travelling.

            I use my phone to make phone calls :)

  7. 83 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:12 pm
    • 84 anniebella
      July 3, 2014 at 9:16 pm

      Didn’t something like this happen in Texas last year? Do they know what they are doing?

  8. 85 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:15 pm
  9. 86 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:18 pm
  10. 88 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:19 pm
  11. 95 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    This was why The Voice stated that perhaps, Perry should call the TX GOP Congressional Reps to demand that the Immigration Reform Bill be put up for a floor vote.

    • 96 anniebella
      July 3, 2014 at 9:57 pm

      Hay Perry have you heard of Speaker John Boehner? Tell Boehner to be a man, stop acting like a coward and put the immigration bill to a vote.

      • 97 Nena20409
        July 3, 2014 at 10:30 pm

        The TX Village fool is confused once again. The border is secured. The 50K plus kids and some of their mothers didn’t cross the border illegally. They are being detained and processed by the US. This is like when Haitians were coming in the many unsafe boats in the 1980s/1990s and when Castro allowed 10K or so Cubans to migrate to US during the same exact period. Castro was sending Us those he didn’t want and Haitians were fleeing their despot regime. GITMO was used as a process center for the Haitians and some Cubans. I never heard FL screaming for Reagn/GH Bush/Clinton to secure this border.

        Perry is an idiot.

    • 98 vcprezofan2
      July 3, 2014 at 10:22 pm

      I bet you $5 Perry’s idea of securing the border once and for all would be to put armed guards at every possible border crossing and keeping them there. I sincerely doubt he could comprehend the possibility that border security could spring from addressing the Immigration issue in a legal way.

  12. July 3, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Um, WHAT??

  13. 100 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:31 pm
  14. 101 hopefruit2
    July 3, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    1st

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  16. 105 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-on-july-4-governing-in-the-spirit-of-revenge/2014/07/03/6b69e2ea-02e8-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html

    As we celebrate the Fourth of July, who can argue that our democracy is working the way the Founders intended? And who can deny that most of the blame for dysfunction must fall to the Republican Party?

    George Washington distrusted all political parties. He warned in his farewell address that, as they alternated power, parties would act in “the spirit of revenge” — rather than, presumably, in the best interests of the nation. The “disorders and miseries” that resulted, Washington feared, would inevitably threaten democracy.

    For most of U.S. history, the major parties, even while differing sharply on philosophy and policy, have acted in a spirit of shared enterprise. There are significant exceptions — notably the years leading up to the Civil War. There was no possible compromise on an issue so fundamental as slavery.

    Today, we face no question of such magnitude. Yet Republicans have decided not to collaborate with President Obama in fulfilling the most basic obligations of government, preferring to let “disorders and miseries” fester rather than address them.

    /////

    A great read. If Only We has a Factually based Media.

    • 106 jackiegrumbacher
      July 3, 2014 at 10:10 pm

      The good news, Nena, is that Robinson is actually naming Republicans, not Congress. He’s picking up what the president has been doing lately. We all have to reinforce this and make sure every media person who tries to lump Democrats in with Republicans is called on it. If we can get a chorus of Dems and all of us naming Republicans, rather than DC, Washington or Congress, then we will have achieved an important step forward.

      • July 3, 2014 at 10:22 pm

        “We all have to reinforce this and make sure every media person who tries to lump Democrats in with Republicans is called on it.”

        Absolutely, Jackie!!! Was pleased to see Mr Robinson do just that.

        #OWNthe114th

        Yes WE MUST

    • 108 Nena20409
      July 3, 2014 at 10:17 pm

      We have….oopsy.

  17. 109 Nena20409
    July 3, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    It’s now official. All TODers in harms way, please take cover and take care of yourselves.

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