hopefruit posted this at the end of the last thread…thought it was worth bringing over.
hopefruit2
July 26, 2025 at 10:00 am
Opinion: Blacks shouldn’t be fooled by Rand Paul
// Over the past few months, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has been traveling across the country, speaking to African-Americans in urban communities, pitching himself and the GOP’s ideas. He thinks the GOP’s ideas are in our community’s best interest, and today he’s in Cincinnati to speak at the National Urban League Conference to try his spin out yet again.
While I applaud anyone’s efforts to reach out to the black community and share ideas that would improve our families’ lives, Paul doesn’t understand a very important piece of the puzzle: earning our trust. For Paul to claim to stand up for our values while opposing policy after policy that advances our community is not the way to do this. Paul’s long and troubled history with civil rights issues is generally well known around Kentucky and in Washington, D.C., but for many Ohioans, it’s time to take a closer look.
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42desertflower
July 26, 2025 at 10:08 am
Morning everyone! Morning hopefruit! RM did a segment on this very topic last night, as well. Showed him FLAT OUT LYING about the VRA and the Civil Right Act and his stance….then she FLAT OUT called him a LIAR. Priceless. It was must see TV.
Can’t link to the exact segment - but Rand Paul is now lying - he said “on the record” that he did not think the civil rights act should relate to private organizations. i.e. Woolworths can have their “whites only” lunch counter.
Yet Rand Paul says he is for the civil rights act, says he has never been against it - and is receiving press for what he says now.
A beautiful Saturday morning from Montana. This week the weather has been wonderful, rain, cool and just right. Not sure what that means. Next week to be in the 90’s again. We have had company all week so has been great taking them around. Next week no company.
I am quite concerned about what is happening in MT with John Walsh. Afraid we might get Repub, corrupt Daines for our Senator. Walsh said he had PTSD during that time. That’s the only explanation so far. I love MT but it is a very purple state. It is so frustrating.
So thankful for our President and our SOS Kerry. They are a force for peace. Have a great Saturday.
I have no idea until this AM that the 4 little girls killed when a bomb went off in their Church is the same equivalence as kids migrating from 3 Central American Nation in the Thousands while the US gov’t is feverishly trying their level best to care for them. The Girls in AL were Killed. No one today has Died under US care of the 50K plus kids.
I don’t usually complain about MPH. She has her own issues and her own agenda. She is conflating issues. Nerds, at least the Nerds in my family are fact based and intellectually Honest relatives. What MHP is doing today is nothing, but intellectually dishonest. Funny how Mexico is never mentioned in this equation or other neighboring nations. What have they been doing? How do their effort influence this?
I don’t mind those who want to go after pres Obama when merited. But the knee-jerk senseless diatribe is not only tiresome, it has a delusional pathology to it.
I don’t remember hearing any attack on the President that had merit - most that may appear to have merit relate to PBO facing political reality (e.g. single payer health care).
Sorry Nena - no way was I implying that you thought there was a merited attack - I was just trying to think of when he may have done something I would argue against - and I was hard pressed to find anything at all. I don’t think there is any other politician I can think of who I would agree with so often!
I got you, 99ts. I was making my point abundantly a tad clearer. Sometimes, web comments have ambiguity and interpretations cause more harm that the commenter ever intended.
been meaning to comment about this, and hopefruit’s point about the charlatan rand paul reminded me to do it-
it seems there’s been a directive that’s gone out from the real controllers of the republican party to tone down THE CRAZY they stoked, and bring back their “compassionate conservative” lie. i first thought this when in one week, several times, i was seeing people at various places say things such as, “wow, glen beck was really pushing back against that teebagger,” or, “meagan kelley really took it to that teebagger!” and so on. then sociopath beck pulls stunts with the immigrant children in horrendous situations and his photo ops get him tons of positive coverage and comments all over the news and political sites. it was weird to see so much of that out of the blue, as if the last several years of these same people being absolutely, utterly, and i think clinically, INSANE, 24/7, 365 days/year.
now we have paul ryan being fluffed up again by “the news” as some sort of expert on poverty issues, just as they did when he had a 2 page school report of talking points that was called the “paul ryan budget” and “the news” called him a budget expert. and rand paul’s been trying to project some false image of caring for people in urban areas, and he gets mentions such as, “regardless of what one thinks about his remedies, at least he’s trying to do something about the problems,” which they’ve also been doing for paul ryan and glen beck. THEY ARE LYING! they really do not care about helping disadvantaged people. their one goal is to dismantle the social safety net and get more money into the hands of the koch brother types, and mitt rmoney’s 5 sons, so that they can “trickle down” help upon these communities, that is if they feel like it and are in a generous that particular day to donate cash to a nonprofit, otherwise screw it, let’s go vacation in tahiti next month! and meanwhile, as always, president barack obama and many democrats are the only ones offering and implementing real answers to help solve these generations-long problems, and are already helping millions RIGHT NOW improve their futures, and the same “news people” ignore or belittle them.
we need to stop this immediately, since we know “the news” will incessantly be promoting this “compassionate” lie and covering up all their actions, day in and day out, that prove it’s just words and lies. thank god for the internet so we can fight back in ways we couldn’t before.
just found this from the maddow show yesterday. don’t watch her, so thanks to who alerted us about it here-
i remember when rand paul was on her show several years ago (the ONE time), and she was fair and calm in her questioning of him, and he folded like a cheap card table, and has been going on and on about how oppressed he was by maddow. what a whiny, little baby of a man this liar is! compare her questioning to how any fox “news” person treats any liberal on their shows. crazy.
Rand Paul uses lies and distortions as what he sees as a justifiable means to an end. He’s a creep with no conscience. Thanks, Rachel Maddow, for pointing out his mendacity!
I agree with Dr Maddow. I just wish, perhaps also, Dr Maddow should sit Kornacki down and some at MSNBC on Rand Paul for Kornacki on particular has puff pieces all the time about Rand Paul.
As HF2 steadfastly reminds TOD, be aware of these folks.
Dr. Maddow has Kornacki fill in for her. She should make it clear that he not do those puff pieces on TRMS since she is not a fan of Rand Paul.
I agree with your excellent description of the media’s attempts to have “tea Party Repubs” appear more “compassionate”. Luckily, the only people that will be fooled by this is the libertarians from the left, who were supporting him to begin with.
Re: What is happening in Libya is what is likely to happen in a tribal/warrior society when a dictator is either taken out (Iraq) or overthrown (Libya and Egypt). There will be fighting among tribes and/or factions until one becomes strongest. Iran is actually more advanced than such societies as they’ve developed an early traditional society.
I predict that after Nov midterms, the US media’s sudden interest in reporting of international conflict will plummet as quickly as it spiked this summer/fall.
yardarm756,you are so right about those Republicans. John McCain answer for every crisis which arise is to send American troops, if he was President we would still be in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine.
To me it seems important to remind those around us not to be taken in by rhetoric. Do not believe what is said. Believe what has been done. (Campaign lingo vs legislative votes)
Officials signaled strongly Friday that Obama’s move would shield from deportation large numbers of immigrants living in the country illegally, as advocacy groups have demanded.
Roughly 5 million of the estimated 11 million people who entered the country without legal authorization or overstayed their visas could be protected under a leading option the White House is considering, according to officials who discussed the proposals on condition of anonymity.
Obama said last month that because Congress had failed to act on comprehensive immigration reform, he would take executive action to “fix as much of our immigration system as I can on my own.”
It’s funny. Rand Paul is solely for states rights. If you google him, you’ll find words like pro confederate or Neo confederate near his name.
And yet, he is campaigning in black districts for votes?
He also must think he’s got the primary of 2016 wrapped up? He’s campaigning like it’s already the general election.
So strange.
The least fooled electorate in US historically speaking, is the African American community. History is very accurate on this. Note that the fools propping Rand Paul are those in the Media and the 98% of them are Caucasians.
They ignore his record. They sanitize his points of view. They are looking for someone to cheer for, come 2016.
This is so true! A false knowledge🎓; it's more 🚨dangerous than #ignorance… ! Especially in the case of #rwnjs! http://t.co/le7YtsZRvv— Shauna Urban (@solaranoir) July 17, 2025
Perfect description of what Paul and the Media are doing.
The death toll now tops a thousand in Gaza. Still am reeling by it all and doubt that this truce will last, everything that I was taught to believe about Israel and Palestinian people has changed a lot.
Lets hope they can end the fighting and Israeli government will act like human beings for once. The people have Israel have condemned these actions that their government has taken, something our media once again fails to report.
This has been going on for years. The Crusaders of the Pope used to do this in renaissance era. Then Arabs would retaliate and so forth.
It even goes back further with the Persians and Greek Ruler Pericles.
No question Jewish people have been oppressed for years, now it seems, the US has built up its Army with technology and now they seem to be the oppressors.
So, you see, it’s the three religions that drive this madness.
Nothing you can do about it.
Many American Jews actively oppose what Israel is doing while the far right Christians support Israel. Hmmm Maybe it’s not about about being Jewish but about a government that actively oppresses it’s people and the people of Gaza. Netanyahu is much like Bush with a cruelty and hate for the Palestinian people, who btw are Semitic.
Holy sh*t is what came out. Wow. I don’t know or even think that this is okay to post here. So, I will leave it up to NW and Chips to decide. I am leaving a space after / and before 4
Charlie Crist: "I'm not a scientist either but I can use my brain and I can talk to one." http://t.co/qVHBOm3KeP
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) July 26, 2025
WTG Crist.
Whenever I hear this from a TBGOPer, I go Crazy that No Journo asks, well sir/madam, as a politician or a lawmaker, what exactly is your qualification on whatever position that Pol has ever taken on any given issue.
FURST
Congrats Grandpa!!
drat - cannot believe flash player crashed just as I was heading here.
Hello amk - hope you are being wonderful host to the family
gotta go. dinner time with family. just came popped to post pups pics (how is that alliteration?) .
:-) Enjoy your dinner, and give Mom and the pups a hug for us!!
Congrats on 1st, amk. Thank you for sharing the puppies :)
Thank you, Chips, for the R&S.
amk!! Congrats:) Happy weekend…
hopefruit posted this at the end of the last thread…thought it was worth bringing over.
hopefruit2
July 26, 2025 at 10:00 am
Opinion: Blacks shouldn’t be fooled by Rand Paul
// Over the past few months, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has been traveling across the country, speaking to African-Americans in urban communities, pitching himself and the GOP’s ideas. He thinks the GOP’s ideas are in our community’s best interest, and today he’s in Cincinnati to speak at the National Urban League Conference to try his spin out yet again.
While I applaud anyone’s efforts to reach out to the black community and share ideas that would improve our families’ lives, Paul doesn’t understand a very important piece of the puzzle: earning our trust. For Paul to claim to stand up for our values while opposing policy after policy that advances our community is not the way to do this. Paul’s long and troubled history with civil rights issues is generally well known around Kentucky and in Washington, D.C., but for many Ohioans, it’s time to take a closer look.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/contributors/2014/07/25/rand-paul-at-odds-with-black-community/13131979/
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42desertflower
July 26, 2025 at 10:08 am
Morning everyone! Morning hopefruit! RM did a segment on this very topic last night, as well. Showed him FLAT OUT LYING about the VRA and the Civil Right Act and his stance….then she FLAT OUT called him a LIAR. Priceless. It was must see TV.
desertflower, I saw Rachel show last night when she call Rand Paul what he truly is, a bold face liar.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
Can’t link to the exact segment - but Rand Paul is now lying - he said “on the record” that he did not think the civil rights act should relate to private organizations. i.e. Woolworths can have their “whites only” lunch counter.
Yet Rand Paul says he is for the civil rights act, says he has never been against it - and is receiving press for what he says now.
I don’t think the black community will be fool by Rand Paul, we have seen many wolves in sheep clothing before.
He is out there fooling the media Annie - hopefully more will listen to the black community and call him out.
repeat. wth not.
so cute:)
Those puppies are growing like weeds! Congratulations on your furst, AMK!
Look how big they are already! No wonder Jenny the Feeding Machine is tired! ;)
G’morning Chips, TOD, lurkers, everyone, and congrats amk on #1 :) Happy Saturday everyone, and thanks Chips for posting our President’s week-ahead preview :)
A pleasure, thank you Hopefruit, have a sizzlingly fab Saturday!
A beautiful Saturday morning from Montana. This week the weather has been wonderful, rain, cool and just right. Not sure what that means. Next week to be in the 90’s again. We have had company all week so has been great taking them around. Next week no company.
I am quite concerned about what is happening in MT with John Walsh. Afraid we might get Repub, corrupt Daines for our Senator. Walsh said he had PTSD during that time. That’s the only explanation so far. I love MT but it is a very purple state. It is so frustrating.
So thankful for our President and our SOS Kerry. They are a force for peace. Have a great Saturday.
Good Morning Thursday.
Au for Amk.
Mother and her 3 puppies are really precious.
What? Thursday? Wow.
Holy smokes.
So sorry. I am awake and had my coffee, taken a bath, washed my hair and had a bowl of cereal. I have no idea where Thursday came from.
Good Saturday Morning.
I am out.
The cutest thing!!!!! :-)
Cute puppy!
Gunnite amk. Sleep tite. Don’t let Rand Paul bite!
Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family!
Clap.along if you’re Happy it’s Saturday :D
Mooooooorning GGail!!!
This is one tough audience. They remained silent & uninterested when I entered, but they are going of control for GGail!
:-) I actually feel seasick looking at them!
Didn’t think they’d be so Happy? Hahaha!
GM hf!
That guy in the front looks like Gregory Peck!
If it’s not him, he’s definitely somewhere in the audience. But please don’t rub it in….
Oh come on hf, clap along and be Happy! We’ve got the best person as our President!!
Clap girl :D
Now THAT’S what I’m talking about! LOL
Good mooooorning Chips :D
I have no idea until this AM that the 4 little girls killed when a bomb went off in their Church is the same equivalence as kids migrating from 3 Central American Nation in the Thousands while the US gov’t is feverishly trying their level best to care for them. The Girls in AL were Killed. No one today has Died under US care of the 50K plus kids.
I don’t usually complain about MPH. She has her own issues and her own agenda. She is conflating issues. Nerds, at least the Nerds in my family are fact based and intellectually Honest relatives. What MHP is doing today is nothing, but intellectually dishonest. Funny how Mexico is never mentioned in this equation or other neighboring nations. What have they been doing? How do their effort influence this?
I don’t mind those who want to go after pres Obama when merited. But the knee-jerk senseless diatribe is not only tiresome, it has a delusional pathology to it.
I don’t remember hearing any attack on the President that had merit - most that may appear to have merit relate to PBO facing political reality (e.g. single payer health care).
agreed.
I didn’t say there was a merit to attack POTUS in today’s show.
I should have added: In general.
I thought that going to another New Line…..more like a paragraph was the way to make that point.
Sorry Nena - no way was I implying that you thought there was a merited attack - I was just trying to think of when he may have done something I would argue against - and I was hard pressed to find anything at all. I don’t think there is any other politician I can think of who I would agree with so often!
I got you, 99ts. I was making my point abundantly a tad clearer. Sometimes, web comments have ambiguity and interpretations cause more harm that the commenter ever intended.
Thanks 99ts.
ROTFL…
been meaning to comment about this, and hopefruit’s point about the charlatan rand paul reminded me to do it-
it seems there’s been a directive that’s gone out from the real controllers of the republican party to tone down THE CRAZY they stoked, and bring back their “compassionate conservative” lie. i first thought this when in one week, several times, i was seeing people at various places say things such as, “wow, glen beck was really pushing back against that teebagger,” or, “meagan kelley really took it to that teebagger!” and so on. then sociopath beck pulls stunts with the immigrant children in horrendous situations and his photo ops get him tons of positive coverage and comments all over the news and political sites. it was weird to see so much of that out of the blue, as if the last several years of these same people being absolutely, utterly, and i think clinically, INSANE, 24/7, 365 days/year.
now we have paul ryan being fluffed up again by “the news” as some sort of expert on poverty issues, just as they did when he had a 2 page school report of talking points that was called the “paul ryan budget” and “the news” called him a budget expert. and rand paul’s been trying to project some false image of caring for people in urban areas, and he gets mentions such as, “regardless of what one thinks about his remedies, at least he’s trying to do something about the problems,” which they’ve also been doing for paul ryan and glen beck. THEY ARE LYING! they really do not care about helping disadvantaged people. their one goal is to dismantle the social safety net and get more money into the hands of the koch brother types, and mitt rmoney’s 5 sons, so that they can “trickle down” help upon these communities, that is if they feel like it and are in a generous that particular day to donate cash to a nonprofit, otherwise screw it, let’s go vacation in tahiti next month! and meanwhile, as always, president barack obama and many democrats are the only ones offering and implementing real answers to help solve these generations-long problems, and are already helping millions RIGHT NOW improve their futures, and the same “news people” ignore or belittle them.
we need to stop this immediately, since we know “the news” will incessantly be promoting this “compassionate” lie and covering up all their actions, day in and day out, that prove it’s just words and lies. thank god for the internet so we can fight back in ways we couldn’t before.
just found this from the maddow show yesterday. don’t watch her, so thanks to who alerted us about it here-
i remember when rand paul was on her show several years ago (the ONE time), and she was fair and calm in her questioning of him, and he folded like a cheap card table, and has been going on and on about how oppressed he was by maddow. what a whiny, little baby of a man this liar is! compare her questioning to how any fox “news” person treats any liberal on their shows. crazy.
Rand Paul uses lies and distortions as what he sees as a justifiable means to an end. He’s a creep with no conscience. Thanks, Rachel Maddow, for pointing out his mendacity!
I agree with Dr Maddow. I just wish, perhaps also, Dr Maddow should sit Kornacki down and some at MSNBC on Rand Paul for Kornacki on particular has puff pieces all the time about Rand Paul.
As HF2 steadfastly reminds TOD, be aware of these folks.
Dr. Maddow has Kornacki fill in for her. She should make it clear that he not do those puff pieces on TRMS since she is not a fan of Rand Paul.
I agree with your excellent description of the media’s attempts to have “tea Party Repubs” appear more “compassionate”. Luckily, the only people that will be fooled by this is the libertarians from the left, who were supporting him to begin with.
If anyone is fooled by Rand Paul….then they are just a fool…
Re: What is happening in Libya is what is likely to happen in a tribal/warrior society when a dictator is either taken out (Iraq) or overthrown (Libya and Egypt). There will be fighting among tribes and/or factions until one becomes strongest. Iran is actually more advanced than such societies as they’ve developed an early traditional society.
At Lunch yesterday, I said that N. Korea would soon be acting up. It never fails.
Unfortunately, it took less than 24 hours. And here it is.
I predict that after Nov midterms, the US media’s sudden interest in reporting of international conflict will plummet as quickly as it spiked this summer/fall.
I guess Kim Jong-un is feeling neglected with all the other international news taking place.
Good morning. My rant for the day.
Hello yardarm - your rant is well justified - and now it is past my bedtime, so I am gone - enjoy your day
You too Trish.
yardarm756,you are so right about those Republicans. John McCain answer for every crisis which arise is to send American troops, if he was President we would still be in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine.
Yup. Sure would.
To me it seems important to remind those around us not to be taken in by rhetoric. Do not believe what is said. Believe what has been done. (Campaign lingo vs legislative votes)
I have not read it elsewhere. I am still searching for collaborations.
Okay. Now, a collaboration by ABC news.
Not really…its an AP story:) Regardless, let’s hope this happens and that its more than 4 hours…
If this is secret, why are there many out enjoying themselves? How did the picture come about?
Had I lived in this building, I will not be a floor below…..at least not as a tenant.
G. Zimmerman, the Murderer, his appeal to sue NBC has been tossed out.
Perhaps, he should get his buddy, Hannity, to foot the bill?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-immigration-20140726-story.html#page=1
Officials signaled strongly Friday that Obama’s move would shield from deportation large numbers of immigrants living in the country illegally, as advocacy groups have demanded.
Roughly 5 million of the estimated 11 million people who entered the country without legal authorization or overstayed their visas could be protected under a leading option the White House is considering, according to officials who discussed the proposals on condition of anonymity.
Obama said last month that because Congress had failed to act on comprehensive immigration reform, he would take executive action to “fix as much of our immigration system as I can on my own.”
Sooo touching…little dog sooo happy to see his owner, he passes out
Yeah…we had THAT kinda love:) Beautiful thing.
I know DF, made me cry
made me cry too:) I guess I may not be over this yet….I suspect it will take a long, long time….
It takes a long time for a broken heart to heal. Serious hugs for you DF….
{{{Layla}}}
{{{{{{{{{{{{} Love you, Desertflower{}}}}}}}}}}}}} Thinking of you, beautiful DF. Take all the lovely memories close within your space. HZ
It’s funny. Rand Paul is solely for states rights. If you google him, you’ll find words like pro confederate or Neo confederate near his name.
And yet, he is campaigning in black districts for votes?
He also must think he’s got the primary of 2016 wrapped up? He’s campaigning like it’s already the general election.
So strange.
Rand Paul is just another RW FRAUD! Plain and simple.
…and delusional to think he could EVER be POTUS
The least fooled electorate in US historically speaking, is the African American community. History is very accurate on this. Note that the fools propping Rand Paul are those in the Media and the 98% of them are Caucasians.
They ignore his record. They sanitize his points of view. They are looking for someone to cheer for, come 2016.
It’s another Distraction.
2014. 2014. 2014.
Perfect description of what Paul and the Media are doing.
The federal stimulus helped a hive this, yet so few reporters if any note this .
Achieve
The death toll now tops a thousand in Gaza. Still am reeling by it all and doubt that this truce will last, everything that I was taught to believe about Israel and Palestinian people has changed a lot.
Lets hope they can end the fighting and Israeli government will act like human beings for once. The people have Israel have condemned these actions that their government has taken, something our media once again fails to report.
This has been going on for years. The Crusaders of the Pope used to do this in renaissance era. Then Arabs would retaliate and so forth.
It even goes back further with the Persians and Greek Ruler Pericles.
No question Jewish people have been oppressed for years, now it seems, the US has built up its Army with technology and now they seem to be the oppressors.
So, you see, it’s the three religions that drive this madness.
Nothing you can do about it.
They seem to be committing genocide, not just oppression.
It’s happened to Jews to, it’s a cycle.
Many American Jews actively oppose what Israel is doing while the far right Christians support Israel. Hmmm Maybe it’s not about about being Jewish but about a government that actively oppresses it’s people and the people of Gaza. Netanyahu is much like Bush with a cruelty and hate for the Palestinian people, who btw are Semitic.
True. Accurate. Perfect tweet NW.
i just saw this tweet and I lost it.
Holy sh*t is what came out. Wow. I don’t know or even think that this is okay to post here. So, I will leave it up to NW and Chips to decide. I am leaving a space after / and before 4
https://twitter.com/ConAssassin/status/ 473909330480488448/photo/1
WTG Crist.
Whenever I hear this from a TBGOPer, I go Crazy that No Journo asks, well sir/madam, as a politician or a lawmaker, what exactly is your qualification on whatever position that Pol has ever taken on any given issue.
New post:
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/07/26/gaza/