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Again and Again and Again

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134 Responses to “Again and Again and Again”


  1. August 9, 2014 at 10:12 pm

  2. August 9, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    The horror goes on for some.

  3. 5 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:14 pm

  4. August 9, 2014 at 10:18 pm

  5. 7 anniebella
    August 9, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    What state did this shooting occur?

  6. August 9, 2014 at 10:20 pm

  7. 12 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:21 pm

  8. August 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    So, does this mean PBO has to end his vacation? I believe in my heart, one of the reasons (many) whites hate black people, is they know deep in some rational place in their unconsciousness, their/our ancestors were wrong, wrong, wrong, to steal people from their homeland, enslaving them, taking away all human rights and taking away the very humanity of a people who have survived on this Earth longer than most. This deep-seated guilt, and denial, consumes most white people. So they blame the very ones they stole living freedom from, as if that is an excuse. In general, this lack of consciousness is why so many of the same old tired plots and stories are played ad nauseam, throughout our great society.

    • August 9, 2014 at 11:56 pm

      MP my heart sank when I read your opening.

      JHC, the media blames every ill in the world on PBO (recall @MaeveReston’s tweet — which I think she has since deleted that Libya turmoil, Hurricane Irene and an earthquake happened during PBO’s 2011 vacay, no so subtly suggesting that natural disasters are PBO’s fault.

      Now MSM will expect PBO to speak for an out of control racist police department in a state that he visited recently (Kansas City MO) — so PBO is responsible for every global crisis, man-made or not AND for the racist actions of municipal PD — never has an American President been held responsible for things out of his control, yet the media demands answers from him.

      Damn, I wish he and the First Family could vacation in an undisclosed location.

    • 15 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      August 10, 2014 at 6:02 am

      I AM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU MP…..

  9. 16 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Reminiscent of the South during the 50s.

    • 17 99ts
      August 9, 2014 at 10:47 pm

      Saw one news report where the “man” was said to be 18 – seems they don’t want any comparisons with another 17 year old who was killed because – walking while black.

    • 19 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      August 10, 2014 at 6:05 am

      I HAVE WARNED THE WH SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE WHITE MILITIA…THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING………….THEY ARE RAVENOUS DOGS…HOWEVER..THE NAME ‘DOG’ IS TOO GOOD FOR THEM!

  10. 20 anniebella
    August 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    There is no way in hell a black man would be allow to walk around in a store with a Ak-15 hanging on his shoulder.

    • 21 anniebella
      August 9, 2014 at 10:37 pm

      Shot 10 times for stealing some candy, what was the candy made of gold? That is just how much a black person life is value to some people, it isn’t. There is no way a 17 year old white kid would be gun down by policemen like that.

  11. August 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    I’ve been hanging with my wonderpup Stewie. Just came online and saw this.

    Why does this happen again and again? Yes, that’s merely a rhetorical question.

  12. 23 GGAIL
    August 9, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    This breaks my heart.

    Thank you Chips for posting this injustice and another senseless death of a young black male.

    So sad

    • August 9, 2014 at 10:36 pm

      Would have loved to end the day on a happy note, GGail – this endless cycle is just heartbreaking.

      • 25 GGAIL
        August 9, 2014 at 10:50 pm

        An all too often reality for black people since we were brought to America…in chains. The pain doesn’t end.

        • 26 SUE DUVALL SMITH
          August 10, 2014 at 6:07 am

          NO IT DOESN’T END GGAIL…THESE ARE THE TIMES WHEN I AM VERY ASHAMED TO BE WHITE…I THINK GOD MADE A MISTAKE AND DROPPED ME IN A BUCKET OF BLEACH!

      • 27 jacquelineoboomer
        August 10, 2014 at 12:33 am

        I haven’t been plugged in much today, and had no idea. I will end my own day praying for that family. And our entire sick country.

  13. August 9, 2014 at 10:35 pm

  14. 30 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:39 pm

    Nowhere can we feel safe in this country. Not in the blue states, not in the red states. Nowhere. It is a horror that in one’s own country (a so called developed nation), one has to constantly fear being killed because of the color of one’s skin.

    • 31 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      August 10, 2014 at 6:11 am

      YES GIN…I AM FRANKLY VERY SORRY THAT I LIVE IN AMERICA BECAUSE IT IS NOT WHAT IS IN THE BROCHURE IF YOU GET MY DRIFT!

  15. 32 anniebella
    August 9, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    I heard that Sasha Obama will be joining the family later.

  16. August 9, 2014 at 10:41 pm

  17. 34 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:42 pm

  18. August 9, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    I am trembling………from anger, dismay, fear.

    Had a good friend say to me few weeks ago that it hurts her to say it but she feels PO’s presidency has made racism/race relations much worse. That’s the way she said it though she probably meant it has brought it to the surface. She is a Dem and strong PO supporter. In fact, John Dingell is her husband’s uncle.

  19. 40 99ts
    August 9, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    I have no words – It is close to impossible for me to understand this happening to someone’s children and grandchildren. The control that is stopping a massive uprising comes only from those who work 24X7 fighting racism, those who preach from the right encourage these actions by the so called Law Enforcers.

  20. 41 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:45 pm

  21. 42 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:48 pm

  22. August 9, 2014 at 10:49 pm

  23. 45 yardarm756
    August 9, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    My anger now is almost tangible and it’s making me sick and angry.

    • August 9, 2014 at 10:59 pm

      I don’t know what to say to you, Sailor. It’s all fucked.

      • 47 yardarm756
        August 9, 2014 at 11:15 pm

        That it is LL. I can assure you that from this day forward I’ll be “packing” my own heat when I leave my house……..My bucket is filled to over flowing and I see open conflict on the near horizon!

        • 48 GGAIL
          August 9, 2014 at 11:29 pm

          Sailor, as your friend, I ask that you leave the piece locked up and let your anger subside into a peaceful protest.

          • 49 yardarm756
            August 9, 2014 at 11:42 pm

            Sorry Sis but this has tripped my trigger. I’ve been holding “stuff” for yeeeaaars. I knew Emmitt Till and over the years came close to being a statistic myself in VA, RI, GA, FL, KY, TX, and CA. The ONLY times I’ve ever felt free was in other countries and I’m sick of it.

            • 50 GGAIL
              August 9, 2014 at 11:54 pm

              Yardarm, when anger takes over, rationale leaves and they win and we lose.

              • 51 yardarm756
                August 10, 2014 at 12:14 am

                Lose what? Every gain made is declared null and void by “them”. I’m just gonna exercise my 2nd Amendment Rights like The Panthers tried to.

        • 52 amk for obama
          August 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm

          Not a good move. You would be playing into their hands.

    • August 9, 2014 at 11:07 pm

      Wish I was their to give you a giant hug, sailor. Take care.

      • 59 yardarm756
        August 9, 2014 at 11:19 pm

        Tks Lootenant…….I’m gonna get some more ammo soon and prepare for the revolution(riot).

        • August 10, 2014 at 2:03 am

          The only ‘ammo’ that will bring these centuries long travesties to an end, Dear Sailor, is the ‘ammo’ of non-violence that our spiritual leaders – Martin, Gandhi, Mandela, Obama – urged us to use.

          #FORWARD Together

        • 61 SUE DUVALL SMITH
          August 10, 2014 at 6:18 am

          I GUARANTEE YOU YARDARM….THERE WILL BE ONE…THE TEAPARTY WIERDOS ARE STOCKING UP!

    • 62 99ts
      August 9, 2014 at 11:26 pm

      I feel your anger – I so want it to result in something good. Take care of you.

      • 63 yardarm756
        August 9, 2014 at 11:47 pm

        Thanks Trish. It has settled in to resolve. I won’t be sleeping too tough tonite, I fear.

        • 64 Layla
          August 10, 2014 at 12:03 am

          yardarm, now I know that you know how much we love you at TOD and would never want anything bad to happen to you. So I beg you, stay with us, vent, scream, cry, anything…but pls do not do anything that could hurt you. It is unbearable, I know, but lean on us pls.

          • 65 yardarm756
            August 10, 2014 at 12:19 am

            Thanks Layla. I’m very tired and weary to the bone. Maybe tomorrow will be different. I have a nephew that’s a cop in the next town to Ferguson and maybe he can shed some light and smooth my feathers.

            • 66 Layla
              August 10, 2014 at 12:22 am

              TY yardarm!!!!!!!

            • August 10, 2014 at 12:44 am

              Good that you have personal knowledge of what’s going on down there.

              As we know, the media is worthless and cannot be trusted.

              Completely understand the shock and rage, and the feeling that something needs to be done — and understand that you’re in no mood for sleep right now.

              But agree with Layla, TODville needs you, loves you — when you’re gone for a bit up north, someone asks on every thread “Where’s Yardarm,” so I’m not just blowing smoke.

              Look forward to hearing your righteous rants — we have to get these out-of-control police departments out of their military mindset — citizens are not their enemy, they are our public servants.

              Take care.

    • August 10, 2014 at 5:49 am

      I know how you feel, yardarm! My anger is also palpable! I don’t have a son, but today I had to call my two nephews, and two of my grand nephews, who are on the East Coast, just to hear their voices. I just couldn’t stop replaying in my mind all the horrors black folks have endured. Another teenager black son gone, in an instant, just because he was Black. May God give strength to his parents to endure the horror. No parent should ever loose a child. Losing a child because he was black is even more devastating.

  24. August 9, 2014 at 10:52 pm

  25. 70 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 10:54 pm

  26. August 9, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    No wonder GWB liked what he saw in Putin’s ‘soul’ ….

  27. 73 vcprezofan2
    August 9, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    I haven’t said much because there is not much to say. I am the mother of a young black man, after all.

    • 74 Layla
      August 9, 2014 at 11:03 pm

      I know how you feel vc! I am feeling such anger right now at what I am seeing..I just have no words, just anger/tears!

    • August 9, 2014 at 11:05 pm

      While I will never have any capacity to Feel, VC, what it must be like to be the parent of a black (or brown) child, in America, I have, over the years, come to realize that if it were me, I’d live in perpetual fear. That fact informs me, every day, how far we have to go before we can claim America is civilized.

    • 78 GGAIL
      August 9, 2014 at 11:20 pm

      I am thankful that my son is alive and knows “the rules” and knows he still has to follow them.- even as an adult.

      • 79 vcprezofan2
        August 9, 2014 at 11:34 pm

        Know what, GGail, it doesn’t seem to me that even following the rules is a guarantee of anything.

        Layla, Bobfr, Gx2: This has knocked the wind out of my sails, and in moments like these it’s best I don’t talk. When will this end? Why aren’t law enforcement trained to shoot to disarm, or to delay when no weapons are involved? Why aren’t they assessed psychologically before they are hired? I don’t care WHAT he “allegedly” stole. I don’t believe even an animal would be shot so many times! This is too much. I can’t talk about it and keep my cool. I’m here for a while longer, I just don’t have anything worth saying and a lot of bubbling resentment towards such inhumanity!

    • August 10, 2014 at 5:20 am

      I Know how you feel VC! Like you ” haven’t said much because I am just numb! I had to call my nephews and two great nephews (my niece’s kids) who are now 12 and 13. just to see how they are doing. I was so euphoric when President Obama was elected, but it seems that there are forces intent on continuing the ugliness that has scarred this beautiful country for centuries. It’s as if there’re people who are determined to unleash a race war to tarnish the presidency of Barack Obama.

      • 87 vcprezofan2
        August 10, 2014 at 10:25 am

        ‘It’s as if there’re people who are determined to unleash a race war to tarnish the presidency of Barack Obama.’

        Funny, Nathk, I’ve wondered about that on more than one occasion, but never voiced it before.

  28. August 9, 2014 at 11:01 pm

  29. 89 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 11:03 pm

  30. 90 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    • 91 Dakota
      August 9, 2014 at 11:40 pm

      Make no mistake, they’re HAPPIEST when they execute black men who are educated or trying to get educated. Educated Black men and boys are the biggest threat to this bigoted country.

  31. August 9, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    Wish I had seen this sooner. It is a bit of positive news …

    • 93 vcprezofan2
      August 9, 2014 at 11:40 pm

      Looks like the volleyball is still happening, Bobfr. I just clicked – there seems to be some buffering problems though.

  32. 94 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 11:11 pm

  33. August 9, 2014 at 11:13 pm

  34. August 9, 2014 at 11:14 pm

    Truth.

    • 97 Jeff
      August 9, 2014 at 11:44 pm

      indeed it seems like the media hasn’t even been reporting this, I couldn’t even find anything on several sites. Seems that the media is too involved with white people getting killed or kidnapped.

  35. August 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm

    For black (and brown) parents and their children ….

    bbl …

  36. 99 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/498265300299554817

  37. August 9, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    It’s times like this we need RFK.

    A true white elite who could speak truth to power and be listened to, and not be framed as playing the “race card” which unfortunately is how the media reacts when a non-white, non-wealthy person voices his/her opinion in cases like Michael Brown (RIP, Chips said it best, 17 forever).

    Small consolation, I heard the first mention of this on CBS network radio news at the top of this hour (yeah, way to spread the word, CBS, 11 pm EDT on a Saturday night), but Jeff was right — the white elite media is hoping this goes away. But it won’t.

    Sorry to be such a boomer, but it’s been 46 years since his assassination and my 14-year-old self cannot believe that we haven’t had a string of political leaders to follow in his footsteps.

    Righteous outrage, please keep spreading the word.

    • 102 jacquelineoboomer
      August 10, 2014 at 12:46 am

      I totally felt every bit of what you said, being an original boomer and living through the hope of those days.

  38. 103 Nerdy Wonka
    August 9, 2014 at 11:27 pm

  39. August 9, 2014 at 11:30 pm

    OK gentle friends, I have to go get ready for my sleep study. See everyone tomorrow.

  40. August 9, 2014 at 11:41 pm

    StLPD needs to follow Albuquerque PD’s (!) example.

    Albuquerque PD is under Justice Department investigation because they shot an unarmed (white) homeless man earlier this year for illegal camping. There was outrage out west that the punishment for illegal camping was the death penalty. @Lawrence aired several lengthy reports on this incident before his hospitalization due to a cab crash overseas. (Not entirely comparable — the homeless man apparently wielded a small knife (of no threat to the officers who greatly outnumbered this lone individual on a hiking trail) but APD completely overreacted, IMHO.

    No police department needs military equipment used for warfare, yet much of the surplus military equipment are being scooped up by police departments across the country.

    • 106 amk for obama
      August 9, 2014 at 11:49 pm

      Excessive show of guns and arms by US police everywhere. I was disgusted at the paranoid show of arms and armed vehicles during the boston bombing.

    • 107 99ts
      August 10, 2014 at 4:25 am

      So does the Ferguson police department get investigated for shooting an unarmed (black) teenager?

  41. 108 amk for obama
    August 9, 2014 at 11:55 pm

    150th anniversary of 13th amendment is coming up. What has really changed on the ground in that period?

    • August 10, 2014 at 12:37 am

      The whites have a new set of people to be bigoted against — Hispanics and Asians.

      But to be fair, bigoted whites may resent Hispanics and Asians, they don’t fear them as they do Blacks, hence the “shoot first, ask questions later” mentality that is reinforced by municipalities and states (i.e., Stand Your Ground laws).

  42. 110 Jeff
    August 10, 2014 at 12:22 am

    Okay, finally Huffpost had the article up… Maybe I was scanning too fast to look for it.

    • 111 Jeff
      August 10, 2014 at 12:27 am

      Sigh, it’s a sad day when everything gets discovered on Twitter before the media.

      • August 10, 2014 at 12:33 am

        Interesting that you think this, because I pretty much rely on Twitter and TOD to keep me current on breaking news.

        The media seem to think that Twitter is for the twentysomething crowd, but I know a few people in that age group and they are not into Twitter. They’re into actually doing things, and pretty oblivious to global events.

        It’s good for Twitter to have that hip image (for their stock price) but I think its popularity lies with people who are curious about what’s happening outside their own world (not counting the trolls and spammers, of course).

    • 113 Lynn
      August 10, 2014 at 12:29 am

      Also crooksandliars, Jeff.

      • 114 Jeff
        August 10, 2014 at 12:32 am

        Never go on that site… maybe it’s time to check it out.

        • 115 Lynn
          August 10, 2014 at 12:41 am

          And dailykos has a short timeline, plus links to photos. I didn’t click on them. Now I have to go be sick.

          • 116 Jeff
            August 10, 2014 at 12:45 am

            I heard DailyKos is really harsh on Obama… Same with Crooks and Liars, which is why I didn’t go to those places. Looks like I’ll be going their more. Tired of getting my stories at Yahoo and HuffingtonPost.

            • 117 Lynn
              August 10, 2014 at 12:51 am

              Some what critical on DK. C & L is usually more supportive, but, imho, most of the crap is in the comments on both sites. And I avoid the pie fights.

  43. August 10, 2014 at 12:27 am

    As Jeff and others have noticed, this story is receiving very little national attention.

    To its credit, it’s the top national story on @latimes home page now; nothing on @nytimes home page.

    The story is on the right side, under the highlighted legal document which disputes LAPD classification of violent crime.

  44. August 10, 2014 at 12:32 am

    I’m so disheartened by what happened in Missouri. My heart just aches.

    • 120 jacquelineoboomer
      August 10, 2014 at 12:49 am

      I’m just learning about it, seeing everyone’s reactions, many dear people here feeling so desolate – as well as having my own reactions just under the surface – and my heart aches, too.

  45. 121 vcprezofan2
    August 10, 2014 at 12:37 am

    ‘The worst enemy is one whose doctrines are founded in hate and are thus beyond debate.’ ~TOBSHA LEARNER, The Witch of Cologne

    Do American police have a ‘serve and protect’ motto, and if they do, who do they pledge to ‘serve and protect’? I’m going to bed or to read.
    Night. Maybe tomorrow will seem a little less dark.

  46. 123 No Child Left Behind
    August 10, 2014 at 12:40 am

    Good Evening (NIght) TODVille!

    My heart aches for the parents and friends of Ferguson. What a travesty of justice we get from the police!!! I hope the DOJ will investigate the assassination of the young man.

  47. 124 Jeff
    August 10, 2014 at 12:49 am

    I am furious, trying not to think. Time to get drunk I think.

  48. 125 jacquelineoboomer
    August 10, 2014 at 1:44 am

  49. August 10, 2014 at 2:03 am

  50. August 10, 2014 at 2:12 am

    #TrustBarack

    #LandslideDEMS2014 …. Humanity is in the balance ….

    good night TOD

  51. 129 HZ
    August 10, 2014 at 2:41 am

    My heart is flooded with so much pain, so I will keep my thoughts there and try to allow some quietness to take charge as I prepare my soul to be saturated with those things that will give me strength to send forth to the parents and family of this family of this young man’s life having been taken.

    I just want to give Yardarm the most large warm hugs possible tonight. {{{{{{{{{ Yardarm, I do understand, and I love you.}}}}}}}}}} Take your time to choose your peace for these awful moments that we have to witness again. I too knew Emmett Till. My dear neighbors were his relatives and those were very difficult days for all of us. Several of my family members were a part of that work that summer. Long nights and days of difficult times for my family. So be strong, my dear Yardarm, please. However, I do understand where you are tonight I am not too far from you with my painful thoughts, but know that we all are family here who care with so much love for you, my dear Yardarm.

    These are ugly days rearing up their old and disgraceful hatefulness ; however my eyes, ears, and mind have been though too much to lean toward choices that would land me in places where these enemies would love to count me as just another number to them. I have too much love to still carry around with me of my precious mother, father, grandmother, and grandfather to allow these hateful instruments of evil to snuff out that precious love. So I will pray for a calm and sweet peace to be with you tonight as you sleep. Rest and choose goodness for you and all of us who love you so much As we all have seen again tonight, we Still have much work to get done. And I am not tired no way soon.HZ

    • 130 HZ
      August 10, 2014 at 3:01 am

      should be :through too much…..HZ

      Upset , but stable and in much prayer and meditation for the family here. We Can Stand Up for what is right, I do believe.HZ

    • 131 MadameSoph
      August 10, 2014 at 3:04 am

      HZ, I was writing my comment as you were writing yours. You have echoed what is in my heart. Your words are beautiful and I thank you for them.

  52. 132 MadameSoph
    August 10, 2014 at 3:00 am

    Just checking in before bed. I am heartbroken. Looking at Michael Brown’s picture, just an innocent young kid. No words can describe what I feel tonight. My mind is not making sense. There is no sense to this.

    And while my heart is aching, I am lucky tonight because I don’t have children. My best friend’s kids are both young black men, barely out of high school. Well, they are like PBO; their dad is white, but, to the eyes of the world, they are black men. And why on earth should that be such a terrible thing? One just turned 18, the other attends college in Santa Barbara and he was around the corner when that guy went on a shooting spree earlier this year. So, he’s got to watch out for crazy guys on a shooting spree AND the police, who are supposedly supposed to protect us from guys on a shooting spree! The guys on a shooting spree are NOT supposed to be the police! I’ve known those boys since before they were an idea. When something like this goes down, I want to reach out to my friend but I hesitate to call because I know just it’s too much for her. Her youngest is heading off to college out of state soon.

    Prayers and light and love for all who are suffering tonight.

  53. 134 Heather
    August 10, 2014 at 9:20 am

    To the whites on this board: i encourage you to talk to your families, friends, colleagues about their racism…even though you know it’s not going to be an easy conversation. They will listen to you eventually. They do not listen to us. Talk to your preachers. Sunday morning is the most segregated time of the week…this is wrong. I’m in Florida and visiting a local church for two Sundays and they won’t even ask my name! I’ve been to a church in Baltimore and my mother and I were asked not to return! Another black child is executed for being black! A noble and amazing President is constantly ridiculed and humiliated! People live thinking this cruelty is justified. They might not shoot anyone but their words and actions kill spirits, dreams and hope…destroying peace for everybody. Excuse the rant. My heart hurts. Thank God, I don’t have any children. I pray for this madness to end.


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