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MoooOOOooorning – Happy Saturday!


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  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    August 16, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Hello

  2. 13 forus50
    August 16, 2014 at 8:24 am

    Good morning!

  3. 14 Roberta in MN
    August 16, 2014 at 8:24 am

    Gooood Moooorniing chips & congrats Nerdy on 1st up. Have a great Saturday

  4. 15 Don
    August 16, 2014 at 8:24 am

    Good Morning all!

  5. 16 amk for obama
    August 16, 2014 at 8:25 am

  6. 22 amk for obama
    August 16, 2014 at 8:27 am

    And oh yeah, furst, flowers, petals and all that crap.

  7. August 16, 2014 at 8:33 am

    Good Saturday Chipsticks…TOD Family!!!

  8. 25 amk for obama
    August 16, 2014 at 8:36 am

  9. August 16, 2014 at 8:37 am

    G’morning Chips & TOD! :)

  10. 29 amk for obama
    August 16, 2014 at 8:45 am

    A pastor, a doctor and an engineer were waiting one morning for a particularly slow group of golfers.

    Engineer: What’s with these guys? We must have been waiting for 15 minutes!

    Doctor: I don’t know, but I’ve never seen such ineptitude!

    Pastor: Hey, here comes the greens keeper. Let’s have a word with him. ….. Hi George. Say, what’s with that group ahead of us? They’re rather slow, aren’t they?

    George: Oh, yes, that’s a group of blind fire fighters. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last year, so we always let them play for free anytime.

    The group was silent for a moment.

    Pastor: That’s so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for them tonight.

    Doctor: Good idea. And I’m going to contact my ophthalmologist buddy and see if there’s anything he can do for them.

    Engineer: Why can’t these guys play at night?

    ….

    wwwwhattt? It’s a valid question.

  11. 32 jackiegrumbacher
    August 16, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Morning all. I got good news at the medical center yesterday after the call back on the mammogram. Had to retake the test and undergo a scan, but got a clean bill of health in the end. Thanks to those who sent their good wishes–I could actually feel them as I waited –seemingly endlessly–for results. Was so exhausted from all the tension, I just had energy to lurk, rather than comment, through all the amazing posts on Ferguson. The rage and injustice we feel so many miles away are orders of magnitude greater for those on the scene and I was trying to imagine what it would be like to go out each the morning and see the faces of those despicable members of the Ferguson police force. Talk about a recurring nightmare!!!

  12. August 16, 2014 at 8:51 am

    Good MOrning, Everyone :)

  13. August 16, 2014 at 8:52 am

    There are six federal agencies investigating in Ferguson according to a reporter on Up with Steve Kornacki.

    Anyone want to remotely believe that any other President would have them in Ferguson?

  14. 63 hopefruit2
    August 16, 2014 at 8:56 am

  15. August 16, 2014 at 9:01 am

    Gooooooooaaaaaaaalllllllllll! Rooooooooooooooney!

  16. August 16, 2014 at 9:02 am

    • 67 jackiegrumbacher
      August 16, 2014 at 9:08 am

      Rikyrah, the men protecting the stores did an amazing job. This should be the story of the day, not the idiocy fed to the media by a farcically incompetent police force.

      • August 16, 2014 at 9:20 am

        MSM home pages and CBS radio news do mention that residents protected stores last night.

        When I heard this report, I thought to myself, “Looting a beauty shop was not the smartest place to target — would have the women up in arms, and the fellows wanting to protect someplace that might be a favorite of their moms and grandmoms.” LOL.

  17. August 16, 2014 at 9:06 am

    Is Race An Issue In Ferguson? Depends On Whom You Ask

    Brown’s death and fiery rallies exposed two cities that exist in one. Some residents say, “It’s one of the most racist places there is.” But the mayor insists, “There’s not a black-white divide in Ferguson.”
    posted on Aug. 15, 2014, at 11:07 p.m.
    Joel AndersonBuzzFeed Staff

    FERGUSON, Missouri — From his neatly-manicured front yard, Peter Tries could hear sirens in the distance. But the armored vehicles bristling with officers wielding assault rifles, the large cable TV news trucks, and all the other scenes that flooded America from his hometown of Ferguson — none of that happened in his neighborhood. And he objects to the view of his hometown as a cauldron of racial tension.

    “I think this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion,” said Tries, who is white and 35 years old. “There’s never been any kind of race thing here. It’s something I never even think about.”

    Over at the Prime Time Beauty & Barber Shop, a social hub in the black part of town, folks see it differently. “They treat us like criminals,” said barber Branden Turner, who’s worked at the shop for a few years. They described officers routinely waiting for customers to leave so they could give them traffic tickets, search for drugs, or ask them for identification so they could run a background check.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/joelanderson/is-race-an-issue-in-ferguson-depends-on-who-you-ask

    • August 16, 2014 at 9:13 am

      Stonekettle has an exceptional piece about this,,,,
      It is and always is about race….white folks want to debate this and we blk folks keep humoring them by trying to explain…smh

      *********************

      The violence in Ferguson, Missouri is about race.

      Everything that’s happened begins from that simple point.

      And until we deal with that, that right there and all the myriad complex problems that depend from it, the centuries of social inequality, the lack of justice, the us and them mentality, the poverty, the drugs, the guns, the politics, the lost potential and opportunity, and especially the rage, until we face that head on and actually do something about it in a fair and reasoned manner, then scenes like Ferguson will continue to play out on the evening news.

  18. 73 Gazelle
    August 16, 2014 at 9:09 am

    A shine to your rising! Good Morning, good morning! Good evening, good evening! What the heck, good day everyone!

    .

  19. 74 jackiegrumbacher
    August 16, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Rikyrah, this Peter Tries guy needs to take a walk outside his comfort zone some time. Amazing how a person can wrap himself in self-delusion and have zero understanding of what’s going on right under his nose. Geez.

  20. August 16, 2014 at 9:24 am

    Friday, August 15, 2014

    No, it isn’t only libertarians who care about civil liberties

    by digby

    So I’m hearing some nonsense that only libertarians have been talking about the militarization of the police. I am not a libertarian. I’m a liberal and a civil libertarian which isn’t the same thing. And I’ve been talking about this for a very long time. So have a lot of other liberals.

    The fact is that civil liberties are rarely

    …………………..

    Here’s a story from prolific Daily Kos diarist Liberty Equality Fraternity and Trees dated June 20th of this year that illustrates the party differences in this regard:

    During the amendment voting for “defense” appropriations last night, Alan Grayson (FL-09) introduced an amendment to prohibit the use of funds to transfer aircraft (including unmanned aerial vehicles), armored vehicles, grenade launchers, silencers, toxicological agents, launch vehicles, guided missiles, ballistic missiles, rockets, torpedoes, bombs, mines, or nuclear weapons through the DOD Excess Personal Property Program established pursuant to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1997.

    There was a great article in the New York Times last week on the militarization of local police. Giving military weapons to local police departments is at best a colossal waste of money. At its worst, it can ruin–or end–innocent lives.

    The amendment failed 62 to 355. 19 Republicans and 43 Democrats voted for it. 210 Republicans and 145 Democrats voted against it.

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/08/no-it-isnt-only-libertarians-who-care.html

  21. 77 amk for obama
    August 16, 2014 at 9:26 am

    what dutch magic? swansea 2-1

  22. August 16, 2014 at 9:28 am

    Wash. Post Recasts Rand Paul As Civil Rights Ally, Forgetting Their Own Reporting
    Blog ››› August 15, 2014 11:37 AM ED

    The Washington Post reporter Dan Balz portrayed Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) as a key figure who can help GOP outreach to racial minorities, following Paul’s criticism of Ferguson, Mo., law enforcement and their role in the Michael Brown killing. But Balz ignored Paul’s previous opposition to the Civil Rights Act, despite having reported on it in 2010.

    In his August 14 article, Balz highlighted Paul’s opinion piece in Time decrying the response of Missouri police to protests in the wake of the police shooting of the 18-year-old Brown. Paul acknowledged in his piece that race skews “the application of criminal justice in this country” and criticized the “militarization of our law enforcement” — which Balz characterized as “a shift away” from typical conservative rhetoric. According to Balz, Paul’s acknowledgement of racial disparities in particular “sets him apart from others in his party,” allowing him to help expand the GOP’s base (emphasis added):

    ……………………………………………………….
    But in 2010 Balz himself reported that Paul had “embarrassed the GOP establishment” by “questioning parts of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.”

    In an interview while running for his Kentucky Senate seat, Paul had said that while he supported portions of the Act, particularly in regards to ending discrimination by the government, he also believed “in freedom” and “private ownership.” When asked if “it would be okay for Dr. King not to be served at the counter at Woolworth’s,” Paul responded that such action would be “abhorrent” but implied he would support the private owner’s right to discriminate.

    Racial discrimination by private actors is prohibited by both Title II and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08/15/wash-post-recasts-rand-paul-as-civil-rights-all/200451

    • 80 99ts
      August 16, 2014 at 9:37 am

      Whenever Rand Paul starts talking I always think of Pierce’s 5 minute rule

      http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_Latest_From_Liberty_Land

      “Regular readers here are familiar with the blog’s Five Minute Rule regarding any member of the Paul family and their most fervent acolytes. If you listen to Crazy Uncle Liberty (!), Senator Aqua Buddha, or their disciples for five minutes, you find yourself nodding in agreement with almost everything they say. At precisely the 5:01 mark, however, the person to whom you’re listening will say something that detaches the entire conversation from the plane of physical reality and sends it sailing off into the ether.”

      I hope when Pierce returns from vacation he will endorse this again in relation to Rand Paul’s latest

  23. August 16, 2014 at 9:32 am

  24. 83 vcprezofan2
    August 16, 2014 at 9:35 am

    Hel-looo, everyone! Chips assures me it’s Saturday so I’m going to take her word for it…ish.

    I must say I opened the door and noticed right away football season is gearing up again O_o o_O ! What led to that quick conclusion? Chips and Nerdy jabbing from their corners of the ring AND pigs flying. Am going to start gathering my protective gear piece by piece, as I have no desire to be hit by flying pig parts.

    If it really is Saturday – you all have a lovely and stress-free one (even if you have to work)!

  25. August 16, 2014 at 9:37 am

  26. 87 hopefruit2
    August 16, 2014 at 9:40 am

    UNCOMFORTABLE RANT ALERT:

    The “Cop name release” announcement from Friday was a bait and switch. And I wouldn’t be surprised if someone in the media – perhaps FOX NEWS or such, advised the Ferguson Police chief that if they initiated a smear job on Mike Brown, painting him as a thug, then it would be game over for the Brown case, and that they would have a willing partner in the entire media spectrum – left, right and center. Not only that, but the Brown case as a whole would lose support among non-Blacks.

    Thus I keep coming back to Brown’s lawyers. They KNEW that Brown might have been associated with a minor shoplifting/robbery incident – whether or not it was related to his being shot by a cop is irrelevant – and that the Ferguson PD would try to link that incident to him in the most underhanded way in order to paint him as a felon who deserved to die. They should have advocated strongly on their client’s behalf that the Ferguson PD is attempting to taint the jury pool by releasing irrelevant information that could prejudice minds against their client and in favor of that killer cop before the case goes to trial. They should have insisted that more info about that cop related to the actual shooting other than just a name and a few PR-related niceties about longevity in the service be released if they are going to release anything about Brown. They should have been at the front of this issue and by Friday morning should have released a strong pre-emptive statement or done a media press conference alerting the public to that possible ploy by the Ferguson PD, and putting the media on notice. And at that point should have focused it back on that killer Cop about whom little to no information has been given out.

    This would not only have severely diminished the impact of the police chief’s “revelation” with his pictures, videos, etc, but would have kept the media in check with their bullshit. Instead the lawyers waited for the Police chief to initiate his smear which was allowed to fester in the media for 4 hrs before they put out a weak statement with misspelled words in the first sentence! They got caught flat-footed and hastily responded in a defensive manner. And you have so-called liberal MSNBC playing this damn video on loop 24/7, knowing perfectly well that it was not related to the shooting, but they don’t mind spreading the propaganda of Brown being a criminal and enabling the racist slander of this young man the media!

    The hideous and shameful psychological reality of America’s anti-Black racism is that once a Black man/boy is painted as a lawbreaker – he’s no longer a sympathetic figure, REGARDLESS of how he is/was treated or who was the perpetrator in his death. Brown’s lawyers ought to have been fully aware of this and addressed that issue head-on and wrestled it to the ground before it was allowed to manifest in that smear. These lawyers need to be way more focused than they are. Less emphasis on marches/protests/rallies (which should be reserved for the community members and activists) and more emphasis on the nuts and bolts of this case and seeing that cop held accountable for his behavior and that justice is served as it should be.

    Thank goodness the FBI/DOJ is also on the case, and hopefully their investigation should lead to the correct outcome. But their processes always take time, and meanwhile Brown’s name is being dragged through the mud when he deserves this nation’s sympathy.

    • August 16, 2014 at 9:51 am

      I feel your rant. You are ON POINT!!!

    • August 16, 2014 at 9:51 am

      It is righteous rant, very true and worth saying. Mike Brown needed to be protected from what was coming, because they all knew.

    • August 16, 2014 at 9:54 am

      Bless you HF for spelling it out. One would think Atty. Crump would have known better after his handling of the Trayvon Martin case.

    • 91 Vicki
      August 16, 2014 at 9:58 am

      Good morning, hopefruit. I share your fury and frustration.
      Crump and company should be on the Offense.
      This is a Murder of an unarmed 18 year old and the killer cop and his family are out-of-town.

      Playing the irrelevant loop over and over simply confirms MSNBC as the Place For Propaganda.

      Michael Brown’s execution and the subsequent languishing of his uncovered body in the street for hours demands a new approach.

      For example: the marches today and the people speaking up for Michael’s family need to use whatever exposure they get to demand a charge and an arrest.

    • 92 99ts
      August 16, 2014 at 10:05 am

      I’m not sure the media was behind this – I believe the Police Chief and his cohorts dreamed it up all on their own – they first tried the “he attacked me” and that didn’t work so they decided to pretend that the media ASKED for this report to be released.

      The media – have – however – been so very supportive of the Ferguson PD – other than when 2 of their own were arrested – and the police chief knew that was a very bad move – noting they were released immediately – whereas everyone else was kept overnight.

      Otherwise I agree 100% with what you say – this is a concerted effort from the FPD to undermine the Governor and Capt Johnson – to create a riot and to say “look at that – we were doing it right”

      The whole conversation is no longer about the 1st degree murder of a teenager – for the crime of walking while black.

      I feel depressingly sad – from thousands of miles away – I have no idea how the families, the people of Ferguson and those who have been fighting for over 200 years for their right to live equally in their own country are coping.

    • August 16, 2014 at 11:31 am

      I agree that Crump and associates should have done better by their client.

      I got the feeling during their press conference on yesterday that they are relying on the resources of the DOJ/FBI and to some degree step up where they are falling short. The expressed hope that the DOJ would also be doing an independent autopsy and their reluctance to release detail on their own independent autopsy is an example.

  27. August 16, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Saturday, August 16, 2014
    The Inevitable ‘Niggerization’ of Michael Brown by the Ferguson Police Department and the Right-Wing Hate Media

    The niggerization of Michael Brown has begun in earnest. The police and the Right-wing media have decided that like all other black people who have been killed by the police and white (identified) vigilantes, Brown is guilty of causing his own execution-style murder.

    Writing about the behavior of the police department in Ferguson, Missouri and their efforts to derail, obfuscate, lie, and dissemble about the murder of Michael Brown is an experience akin to Bill Murray’s in the movie Groundhog Day. It is a cultural script that plays out repeatedly in the United States–the events of which are only a surprise to the naive, willfully ignorant, dishonest, and/or stupid.

    Those of us who write about race and work the “racism beat” have to struggle to find something new to say about the seemingly endless parade of black unarmed men killed by police and other white-identified authorities. Being a truth-teller on such matters is tedious, not easy, and mentally exhausting.

    http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2014/08/the-inevitable-niggerization-of-michael.html

  28. 97 Nena20409
    August 16, 2014 at 9:55 am

    I can’t believe what went on last night. A total undermining of Captain Johnson and the belated Gov Nixon attempts to calm and resolve matters in Ferguson, MO.

    I said it yesterday or the day before…..Hannity or someone is pulling the strings and is influencing the Chief of Police in Ferguson. The Chief has appeared with Hannity now many times now? Hannity was advising and funding Zimmerman at one time. Hannity was driving the Teaparty and the Bundy Ranch character. Rev Wright, ACORN, Van Jones, Birtherism, etc Hannity had a hand in driving those into Hate-filled Schemes. The main intent is to drive Chaos. They want riots and uneasiness. The Wilson policeman who shot Michael Brown is gone and NOTHING, no pictures of Him, no social media footprint? Something Rotten smells in Ferguson, MO.

    • 98 Puddin'
      August 16, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      “They want riots and uneasiness”…you are absolutely right. They are MAD. The Black Man, Captain Johnson came and saved the day (Thursday night). They are MAD. He demonstrated too much power. They are MAD. When he checked that crazy Jackson for the way they released the so called requested information, I knew then things were going to change. I noticed a change in Captain Johnson when Michael Eric Dyson had him on the phone (on air)…he didn’t sound the same uplifted, optimistic, I’m in charge and everything is going to be alright because I am one of you, self. I was sure that things were going to change. They are MAD. He showed them up and they are MAD (including the Governor). I wouldn’t be surprised if folks were paid to do what they did after the protesters lift. They are MAD.”Something Rotten smells in Ferguson, MO.” Yes they are MAD!!!!

  29. 99 andogriff
    August 16, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Good morning! Hope everyone has a good weekend! Sorry about the 2-1 game, Ms Chips….. I’m sure they will do better next time!

  30. 100 Nena20409
    August 16, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Sorry TOD.

    I ranted before any pleasantry greetings.

    Hello TODville. I am hoping and wishing a better Saturday.

  31. 101 andogriff
    August 16, 2014 at 9:58 am

    Excellent rant, hopefruit2! I agree with everything you said.

  32. August 16, 2014 at 9:58 am

    DNLee @DNLee5

    According to #ferguson store owner, the Police didnt issue warrant for video or Visit store until Friday, before the Press conference

    • 103 Nena20409
      August 16, 2014 at 10:02 am

      Possibly, after they have learned of the FBI questioning of MB’s 22yrs old friend. Chief of Police is Complicit of the disruption last night. No one else.

      This is what Sen Dem from MO posted over an hour ago.

    • August 16, 2014 at 10:05 am

      The truth will come out, though piecemeal.

      Good Morning TODVille! What a week charged with grief, frustrations, pain and suffering we had. Well, sometimes that is what life is. Thank God we are the Change we seek to change what’s ailing society. And in Ferguson, there seems to be a lot that needs changing. Case in point, Mr. White Shirt Mumbling Police Captain.


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