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Early Bird Chat

President Obama returning to the White House last night with Malia

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MoooOOOoooorning everyone – Happy Monday!


116 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”


  1. August 18, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Good Morning Chipsticks…TOD Family!!!

    Keep your eye on the prize and don’t let “nobody” turn you around.

  2. 4 Don
    August 18, 2014 at 7:49 am

    Good Morning all!

  3. 6 JER
    August 18, 2014 at 7:49 am

    Good morning BFF and TOD.

  4. 7 jackiegrumbacher
    August 18, 2014 at 7:53 am

    Morning Chips and SW. I’m sick to my stomach from last night’s violence. The National Guard may come in and restore ‘order,’ but Ferguson will still be left with the same out of control police department and the utterly biased St. Louis County prosecutor. Meanwhile daily life must be a version of hell for the people who live there. I lived through many enraging scenes in the 1960’s, but this one seems worse. May God help us all.

    • August 18, 2014 at 8:04 am

      Good Morning JackieG!

      As I watched the rally on yesterday, I was transported back to the sixties, remembering the church rallies, and sitting around the television with my parents and grandparents watching MLK speeches. I felt shaken up for a moment knowing that 40+ years later, such rallies are still necessary.

      • 9 jackiegrumbacher
        August 18, 2014 at 8:45 am

        SW, do you remember the Orangeburg massacre in the late sixties when three black college boys in SC were shot by the police who then managed to make matters worse by overreacting to the protestors. That was a horrific time, but at least the police then didn’t have military equipment and dress and you could see their faces. The police approach to addressing problems has escalated but the underlying racism and injustice remains the same.

        • August 18, 2014 at 9:05 am

          I was in first grade in ’68. *That* I don’t remember a whole lot of details about.

          ” The police approach to addressing problems has escalated but the underlying racism and injustice remains the same.”

          True JackieG.

  5. August 18, 2014 at 7:55 am

    Good mornin Chips.

    Good morning TOD.

    It’s been a long time. Been a long time since i commented here. But i plan go remedy that from now on.

    Other than this frustrating national news, I hope all is well for everyone.

    Hope everyone has a good day.

    • August 18, 2014 at 7:59 am

      Great to see you Lamh, I hope all is well.

    • 13 arapaho415
      August 18, 2014 at 9:13 am

      Good to see you, lamh, hope all is well and that you’ve been lurking a lot.

      Miss seeing your adorable niece (forgive me if I have the relationship wrong) in her hip attire (need the youngun’s to keep me up-to-date).

      Welcome back.

  6. 14 vcprezofan2
    August 18, 2014 at 7:55 am

    {{{{{Pres O + Malia O}}}}}

    Morning SW, Don, JER and Chips-yWhispy!

    It’s going to be a long day, I can feel it in my bones, but it’s also going to be a great week!
    It has to be (as there’s not much lower it can go than last week)! I hope and pray.

  7. 21 donna dem 4 obama
    August 18, 2014 at 7:55 am

    Good Morning TOD

    The most frequent guest on “Meet the Press,” the venerable Sunday morning political talk show on NBC, isn’t John McCain or John Kerry. It’s the show’s new host, Chuck Todd.

    Mr. Todd has been a guest more often than anyone during the past 19 months.

    • 22 99ts
      August 18, 2014 at 9:00 am

      The media so loves talking to itself – and they wonder why folks think they are useless!

      gm Donna – hope your day is good

  8. 23 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 7:58 am

    beware of what you wish for.

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    • 24 vcprezofan2
      August 18, 2014 at 8:01 am

      Quite a change! Someone experienced in makeup should help her do something about the marks around her eyes; the ears are another matter entirely.

      Evening, Amk!

      • 25 amk for obama
        August 18, 2014 at 8:04 am

        gm vc.

        dad & daughter look very tired.

        • 26 vcprezofan2
          August 18, 2014 at 8:11 am

          Indeed. That’s why I started with the virtual hugs. The family never seem able to get a good solid week of ‘down’ time!

          I think of those other idiots who supposedly *work* in Washington – they head off for 5 weeks and no one calls for any one them to come back for whatever. Not that he’s any good, but shouldn’t Boehner as 3rd in command (what a laugh – not) be required to interrupt *his* vacation too? I’m conflicted because I really wouldn’t want him there as he’s so indecisive and ineffective, but the fact his time away is uninterrupted galls. [end of unexpected rant - don't know where it came from ... out of the blue]

        • 27 arapaho415
          August 18, 2014 at 9:26 am

          I think it’s the lighting.

          I pretty much ignore grainy photos that were obviously taken with a flash (except those by excited Obots, of course!).

    • August 18, 2014 at 8:05 am

      :lol: Morning Mister!!

      • 30 amk for obama
        August 18, 2014 at 8:06 am

        MM.

        • 31 vcprezofan2
          August 18, 2014 at 8:39 am

          :roll: Mp – ‘p’ as in p-e-t-a-l, you know!!!!!!

          [I see Chips has accepted that you are too slow a (long term) learner for her to keep trying to instill charm in you. She may be right too, but as your friend I wanted to give it a last try. ]

          • August 18, 2014 at 8:43 am

            :-) I’ve LONG since given up, VC!!!

            • 33 vcprezofan2
              August 18, 2014 at 8:56 am

              I noticed, but I was hopeful that a gentle :roll: nudge might have elicited a result with which I could have surprised you. [ He is after all my brother - no one really wants to give up on a brother without trying one last heavy push to get him over a hump. Right?]

              • August 18, 2014 at 9:01 am

                Yeah but the brother has to show some signs of being willing to turn over a new leaf. That’s why I’ve given up.

                • 35 vcprezofan2
                  August 18, 2014 at 9:06 am

                  I’m with you here! You tried, and in fairness it worked for a while. I tried when he fell off the petal wagon, and yes, it does seem as if you’ve got all the petals you’re going to get. Maybe you’ll now get leaves instead?

                  • August 18, 2014 at 9:07 am

                    “fell off the petal wagon”

                    :lol:

                    • 37 vcprezofan2
                      August 18, 2014 at 9:13 am

                      Don’t worry about that, CC! After posting my response it registered that you inadvertently asked for new leaves – I’m apprehensive he might turn up with leaves. (Remember the 1st time he brought petals you had to gently inform him you didn’t need a truck load, just a handful or so?) I’m moving away from you for the rest of the morning – nothing personal.)

          • 38 amk for obama
            August 18, 2014 at 8:45 am

            potaytoh, potahto.

            • 39 vcprezofan2
              August 18, 2014 at 8:59 am

              /slapping forehead/ Noooo! p-e-t-a-l …. P-E-T-A-L….. pe..tal !! Gawd, they don’t even look alike! Well except for the ‘p’.

    • 40 vcprezofan2
      August 18, 2014 at 8:42 am

      That ‘Girl please’ goes so beautifully with the gesture and look that I chuckle every time I pass the pic. :grin: TY, Amk – a chuckle a day will keep my doctor away.

  9. August 18, 2014 at 8:04 am

    Good morning. I keep remembering that it was the National Guard at Kent State. :(

    • 42 arapaho415
      August 18, 2014 at 9:31 am

      Shudder.

      But it was the National Guard that protected the Selma-to-Montgomery marchers in 1965 (a couple of days ago I said Birmingham instead of Montgomery — realized my error after I posted :( ).

      LBJ got a lot of flack from the Dixiecrats and other Southerners for overriding that unabashed bigot Gov. Wallace who refused to spend state dollars to protect the marchers.

      To this day, I have no idea why the National Guard opened fire at Kent State.

  10. 43 donna dem 4 obama
    August 18, 2014 at 8:07 am

    I’m just not sure what bringing in the National Guard in is going to do?The police have been a pseudo NG all along. That’s been the problem from the beginning. There needs to be a concentrated effort on who these agitators are that seem to come out at night to cause trouble. The police need to find them and stop their antics instead of gassing the innocent who just want to exercise their constitutional right to protest IMO.

    Everyone Try and Have a Good Day!

    • 44 vcprezofan2
      August 18, 2014 at 8:51 am

      Morning GranDD. Bringing in the National Guard will assuage the optics people…..for a while (you know ‘something *strong* is being done’) …. until they’re not effective, or are too effective, then we’ll get ‘why bring in the NG? Too much whatever’.

      I’m reminded of ‘You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time. You cannot however please all of the people all of the time.’ What I find annoying (but try to ignore) is that the armchair critics NEVER seem to concede that they are not sitting where the President is so do NOT see the picture he sees nor have access to the options he has.

      You have yourself a productive and stress-free day at work, GranDD!

    • 45 jackiegrumbacher
      August 18, 2014 at 9:00 am

      Donna, I think the National Guard has the potential to escalate the situation. Who knows what their instructions are.

      • 46 arapaho415
        August 18, 2014 at 9:35 am

        At least it’ll level the playing field.

        Tank against tank, instead of tank against pedestrian citizens.

        The National Guard will have people from all over Missouri who don’t have pre-conceived notions about #Ferguson.

        Hopefully all the other police presence will be non-existent and the National Guard will be just a display of force, on the sidelines, not in the middle of the street menacing residents.

    • 47 vcprezofan2
      August 18, 2014 at 9:03 am

      Just noticed below that it’s the ever so competent Go-ve-nor Nixon who brought in NG. Will keep reading. This is all so unbelievably weird and chaotic to me – won’t say anymore until I read more.

  11. 48 sherijr
    August 18, 2014 at 8:08 am

    I just don’t know what to think. According to what folks have written about Ferguson last night- the cops were responding with tear gas to “shots fired & malotov cocktails thrown’ – and yet with all the media out there, I’ve seen not one bit of proof of this. Only proof of cops firing gas into crowds with children/ disabled and other protestors.. 3 hours before curfew. The only “looting” I’ve actually seen proof of, is when protestors broke the McDonald’s window in order to get MILK to poor on the faces of folks who’d been gassed. And Now Gov Nixon has sent out the National Guard.. who, I wonder will they be protecting? Are they not being sent to reinforce the police? I have yet to see one move by this governor that has “protected” the people from the police.. even Capt Johnson said he wouldn’t gas people- and yet wasn’t he out there last night? All the people of Ferguson have asked for- is transparency.. to bring the perpetrator of this crime to justice.. and yet that is not being done, in fact it is not even being addressed by the Gov, the cops or even Capt Johnson. I realize there is an ongoing investigation… yet if Mike Brown and shot and killed police officer Darren Wilson- he would, at minimum, be locked up right now.. and things would be moving quickly and radically to ‘bring him to justice’. How does a whole town become the enemy of their own police force- the police force they pay taxes to “protect and serve” them?? How is any of this justified? And now the actual military is being brought in.. now the town IS under siege. I have zero trust in the authorities at this point, their judgement has been skewed from the start.

    • 49 sherijr
      August 18, 2014 at 8:11 am

      end of my rant. Good morning TOD, thank you Chips & Nerdy for keeping this front and center.. best wishes to all TOD this Monday morning.

    • August 18, 2014 at 8:21 am

      If Wilson were anyone else, wouldn’t he be considered a fugitive right now? He should be considered MO’s most wanted at this point.

      With all the contamination of evidence and other acts to cover-up the crime, I hope that the fed’s equipment and use of technology is advanced enough to recover some of the evidence that the FPD tried to destroy.

      • 54 sherijr
        August 18, 2014 at 8:27 am

        Well he’s one of “their own”. So he’s under their watch / protection – and no doubt will remain under their protection. I have, for a very long time, been sick of the ‘us against them’ behavior of police. I hold very little hope that any justice will come to Wilson, except perhaps by the feds.

    • August 18, 2014 at 8:55 am

      this is absolutely on point – thank you

    • 59 jackiegrumbacher
      August 18, 2014 at 8:57 am

      Sherijr, I 1000 percent agree with your rant. The one thing nobody seems to do is act on is bringing Wilson into custody and proceed smoothly to a FAIR trial. I don’t trust the local prosecutor to do anything but a whitewash of the police, so this is where outside intervention would be most useful, not more military. We are also entering into very delicate political territory for this country. The eruptions in the 60’s gave us the law and order Republican Party and Richard Nixon, which has brought us continual and untold pain. I would like to see the opposite happen this time with millions upon millions of African Americans registering to vote and then turning out in massive numbers on election day. It’s time to reverse the course of history and start bending that moral arc more quickly toward justice.

      • 60 sherijr
        August 18, 2014 at 9:11 am

        it is all very troubling.. and I just don’t see how/ where it ends in a way that is either satisfying for the PEOPLE of Ferguson or Mike Brown’s family.. and yes I agree the political ramifications are frightening.

      • 61 vcprezofan2
        August 18, 2014 at 9:16 am

        JackieG, part of me is hopeful that out of this entire tragedy WILL COME a great push on that moral arc! To my hopeful mind it almost seems like #Ferguson is happening (unraveling even) to ensure that CHANGE HAS TO COME.

  12. August 18, 2014 at 8:15 am

    My heart goes out to Captain Johnson. I know that he was sincere in his efforts and just feel that his efforts were sabotaged — whether by the FPD or outside persons there primarily to give the media the drama that they had come to Ferguson to get. He had already said that his heart was heavy. I hope he continues to hold on to his faith and that the Ferguson citizens continue to embrace him.

    Ferguson, Brown Family, stay strong and don’t give up the fight. The race goes to those who endureth until the end.

    • 63 arapaho415
      August 18, 2014 at 9:37 am

      Agree wholeheartedly, swbluega.

      Capt. Johnson is a real leader, but he’s got more than one boss and isn’t the person in charge.

      He’s in the worse possible situation — once this is over, I hope his leadership is recognized.

  13. 64 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 8:18 am

  14. 74 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 8:22 am

  15. 76 Roberta in MN
    August 18, 2014 at 8:25 am

    Good Moorning to all you right eyed TOD’ers on the Sunny Monday morning. 😃

  16. 77 Don
    August 18, 2014 at 8:26 am

    You can’t tell me in a million years that Governor Nixon is a straight shooter, how do you stand with Captain Johnson during the day and stab him in the back as soon as the sun goes down, not even Sybil had that many personalities. Governor Nixon’s actions have been all over the map, he can no longer be trusted.

    • August 18, 2014 at 8:30 am

      He can not be trusted. At all.

    • 79 desertflower
      August 18, 2014 at 8:36 am

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/14/missouri-gov-jay-nixon-has-been-at-the-center-of-racial-tension-before-ferguson/

      The first time then-state Sen. Jay Nixon (D) ran for statewide office in Missouri, he got demolished, losing by more than 30 percentage points to incumbent Sen. John Danforth (R) in 1988. Four years later he ran — and won — a bid to be Missouri’s Attorney General.

      A year later, Nixon filed a motion in district court seeking to end St. Louis’ school desegregation program. At that point, black students from the city were being bused to white districts elsewhere in St. Louis County, part of a 12-year-old effort to decrease the racial homogenization of the state’s education system. Nixon argued that the expense of the program wasn’t worth it. (The program was revised in the late 1990s.)

      This was some time ago, but I guess some things don’t change so easily

    • August 18, 2014 at 8:40 am

      THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

    • 81 jackiegrumbacher
      August 18, 2014 at 9:06 am

      Don, we also don’t know what the National Guard has been asked to do–support the police or enable peaceful protests. I have the sick feeling that their presence will inflame the situation further. They’re looking for a repeat of the 60’s with the same political result–the triumph of law and order candidates.

  17. August 18, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Do we think Nixon got another call from PBO last night?

  18. 84 desertflower
    August 18, 2014 at 8:32 am

    Morning everyone…sherijr, best rant of the morning..agree 100%. I certainly hope that today is a better day for the people of Ferguson. PBO is interrupting his vacation with his family to be the adult in the room…no wonder he looks a little perturbed, I would too.

    • 85 sherijr
      August 18, 2014 at 8:48 am

      Good morning df, thanks.. I am so troubled, as are we all, I know.

      • 86 desertflower
        August 18, 2014 at 9:15 am

        I know. I feel the same way…very anxious and unsettled.So many things to fix after decades of abuse and mistrust…now its all spilling into the streets. There needs to be ONE person in charge, Capt. Johnson, and his word should be the last word. The people that are inciting and causing trouble at night, need to be found and arrested…leave everyone else alone. Those many, many police forces there? Ridiculous..needs to be sorted out…and then they need to apologize to the community the serve and get some transparency and man up about one of their own killing a kid in broad daylight. They need to own it, clean house and mend their ways….some folks need to be fired.Maybe lots of folks need to be fired..oh well. People need to vote in people that will serve their interests well…this ratio ain’t workin’ so well…how do you have a police force that doesn’t even respect or understand the issues that the town faces? I’m just smh at the whole thought of this…it’s ridiculous. Anyway, they need to be held to the same accountability that they want to hold everyone else to..imagine that! We aren’t anywhere NEAR an exceptional nation..I hear someone say that word to me in relation to this place and I will go hermitile on them. So much work to do. So much. I’m not settling either…I want the whole damn enchilada…for every single American family…and I mean any family that calls America home, not just the people that were born here. It’s not one person’s job though…it’s ALL OF OUR JOBS! We get what we put into it…if 12% of the people turn out to vote in Ferguson…this is the shit that comes out! We can only blame the “other guy” so many times and then we have to look at the source…that would be us. No easy, quick fix here. Too difficult of a question, too many years of decay and stuffing down anger and resentments…Mike Brown didn’t know on that day that his job on this earth was to teach us all a bigger lesson about humanity and fairness and justice and accountability. Big kid, big calling. We all need to sit down and do some soul searching and then we need to get honest and then we need to change….hard turn.BIG, HARD, TURN…..this can’t go on any longer. People deserve better. A little respect would be in order. A little empathy would be in order. A little understanding would be in order. A lot of listening would be in order. Then we just get down to the business of making this country click on all cylinders for ALL ITS PEOPLE. Make those words, “with liberty and justice for all” really MEAN something.

        • August 18, 2014 at 9:29 am

          Df, DITTO. Every word. Would you mind if at some point, not now, I shared this “from a friend”?

        • 90 sherijr
          August 18, 2014 at 9:54 am

          Great comment, DF. I’m still not convinced that there was any provocation for last night’s attack by police.. I’ve still yet to see or hear of proof of protestors shooting or throwing Molotov cocktails.. thus I’m not sure that troublemakers are anything more than made up by police and passed on by national media. I’m afraid, df, that if this were happening on my street, I’d be outside ‘agitating’ too. As to firing the police- yep, I think the entire slate ought to be wiped clean, but I see zero hope of Gov Nixon siding with protestors against the police. All he’s done thus far is to bring in more police. The only good I see, is that people are not giving up either in Ferguson or anywhere else.

          • August 18, 2014 at 10:37 am

            I listened to Captain Johnson late last night. He gave the details. I trust him. Especially after watching his moving speech at the rally with Al Sharpton. Captain Johnson obviously wants justice for the murder of Michael Brown and completely understands what the community is going through.

            So either Captain Johnson was telling the truth about coordinated agitators who started the chaos, or he was lied to by fellow police officers.

            • 92 sherijr
              August 18, 2014 at 10:40 am

              As much as I too have come to like Capt Johnson, I still want to see proof. He may be believable and even trustworthy.. but, his fellow officers in the pd, have not proven to be so. Thanks for the info LoveP

  19. 93 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 8:33 am

    Veterans on Ferguson

    The general consensus here: if this is militarization, it’s the shittiest, least-trained, least professional military in the world, using weapons far beyond what they need, or what the military would use when doing crowd control.

    https://storify.com/AthertonKD/veterans-on-ferguson

  20. August 18, 2014 at 8:44 am

    PBO has come to be seen as the world’s mediator and peacemaker. When I think about all that is going on right now — Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, ebola, Boko Haram, Unaccompanied minors immigrating, Ferguson… — I wonder how he is able to handle it. I can’t think of any other President who would be able to do so…especially PBO’s immediate predecessor.

    Prayer for continued wisdom and strength for our President.

  21. 95 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 8:46 am

  22. 96 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 8:46 am

  23. 98 Vicki
    August 18, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Good morning TOD.
    It has been widely reported that Darren Wilson’s on-line info has been scrubbed.
    I am guessing that when Darren’s complete history is revealed we will find out why it was buried. Gotta be something big and bad needing so urgently to be hidden, no?

    The next shoe to drop, maybe?

    • August 18, 2014 at 9:11 am

      But we know that once something is out in cyberspace, it’s doesn’t get completely deleted. It’s still out there and some techno-savvy person will be able to recover it.

      • 100 hopefruit2
        August 18, 2014 at 9:20 am

        Indeed swbluega. The FBI has methods of retrieving that info. The FBI probably did a quick sweep of internet info for all the cops in the Ferguson PD, once they knew there was in impending investigation. These cops are already in the “system” they are fingerprinted and have all their background records in a database.

  24. August 18, 2014 at 8:58 am

    G’morning Chips & TOD! Have a pleasant Monday everyone. :)

  25. August 18, 2014 at 9:00 am

    I’m Gonna Go Through…I don’t care what the rest of the world decides to do; Made up my mind and I ain’t gonna turn around,

    I’m going through, I’m going through
    I don’t care what the rest of the world decides to do
    Made up my mind and I ain’t gonna turn around,
    Walkin’ with my Jesus and I gotta go through

    Don’t run too swift; don’t run too fast
    You can’t make it on your own, you’re not strong enough to last
    You run too slow; you’re gonna lag behind
    Keep your hand in the Master’s hand and make it to the finish line

  26. 104 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 9:15 am

    There. No more complaints. At least for a month.

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  27. 105 hopefruit2
    August 18, 2014 at 9:18 am

    Press conference with medical examiner and family/lawyers of Michael Brown at 10:30AM Eastern time.

  28. 107 Don
    August 18, 2014 at 9:27 am

    It’s as if Officer Darren Wilson vanished into thin air, I guess murderous cops have an underground railroad too.

  29. 109 99ts
    August 18, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Antonio French ✔ @AntonioFrench

    National Guardsmen have arrived in south St. Louis City. @kmov reports about 80 members will protect the police command center in #Ferguson.
    ————————————————————————
    The national guard is in town to protect the police??? This mind cannot comprehend

  30. 110 amk for obama
    August 18, 2014 at 9:42 am

  31. 112 japa21
    August 18, 2014 at 9:43 am

    GM all from soon to be rainy Chicago. At least I hope so. Our beautiful Maggie turned 16 today. Well beyond the norm for beagles. She is hanging in there and still, at times, has the spirit of a puppy. But her back legs are hurting her badly, we can tell. And she is losing strength in them. But when she looks at you with her bright eyes and still shows excitement when we appear after being out for a while, our hearts still melt.

  32. August 18, 2014 at 9:54 am

    Good morning, Chips, NW, LL and all the BTs and TODers.

    I cannot believe what we are witnessing and I can’t imagine what it’s like for the Ferguson community under siege of their own police. Sickened and feeling like I wish there was something we could do right now but I know this will take years and years to improve.

    The photos of POTUS and Malia returning home are a much needed balm.


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