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What The Ferguson/STL County PD Did While The World Watched

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114 Responses to “What The Ferguson/STL County PD Did While The World Watched”


  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    This is what the cops are stealing. A church is a sacred place. It’s a sanctuary for crying out loud.

    They are doing this on purpose to rile up peaceful protesters then when the media arrives they’ll point out, “See? We told you these protesters are violent and we’re the victims.”

  2. 2 hopefruit2
    August 20, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    These criminals seem drawn to the “cop” profession…I wonder why…

    Note: This is in no way a condemnation of all the police officers out there who do their jobs professionally and serve their communities well.

  3. 6 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:36 pm

  4. 8 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    That’s their excuse? People can’t sleep in a church?

    Really?!

    • August 20, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      Can the Justice Dept bring a class action suit against the PD..on violation of civil rights…..
      Ths blatant disrespect…disregard for the blk folks in Ferguson is on dis[play for the world to see….

      question is ..what can the justice dept do to rein in the PD

    • August 20, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      May be a silly question, but inquiring minds want to know…

      Was a warrant needed for this raid and if so, what judge issued such a warrant? If not, why?

  5. 12 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm

  6. 13 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    Wow. They won’t follow proper procedure after a murder, but they’ll raid a church.

    These cops are ridiculous.

    • August 20, 2014 at 2:57 pm

      So when churches, schools, and other facilities are used during times of disasters, then that is a violation of housing policies too? I guess declared states of emergency can be interpreted in whatever way it’s convenient to law enforcement.

  7. 15 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:46 pm

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  9. August 20, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Stunning tweets Nerdy, can’t ever thank you enough.

  10. 18 Judith Fardig
    August 20, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Beyond horrifying!

  11. 19 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    • 20 Vicki
      August 20, 2014 at 2:08 pm

      We see what they are doing.
      But, What are they thinking????
      Please, someone explain raiding a church to me.

      • August 20, 2014 at 2:23 pm

        To incite more violence, Vicki.

        They know they will fail if the response of the community continues to be non-violent protest of the injustices endemic to white supremacist controlled towns like Ferguson; the latest injustices being the execution of Mike Brown, the denial of 1st Amendment rights of protestors, and their abuse of the press.

        They desperately need for someone to start shooting at them, or attacking them in any way; they were desperately hoping to find weapons in that church.

        They are obviously dangerous and lawless.

        The community must remain vigilant of anyone attempting any form of protest other than non-violent exercise of 1st Amendment rights and non-violent civil disobedience.

        • August 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm

          The community must remain vigilant of anyone attempting any form of protest other than non-violent exercise of 1st Amendment rights and non-violent civil disobedience.

          *****************************

          Dr Kind said…it is non-violence or non existence!

        • 23 Vicki
          August 20, 2014 at 2:47 pm

          TY, Bob. “desperately hoping to find weapons” That is most likely true and utterly alarming.
          Don’t tell me this is not Gaza redux.
          It is.

          There is a source claiming that MO police went to Israel to train with the IDF. Not a reliable source but it sounds believable.

          I agree with the community needing to remain non-violent. Also, it would be a good idea for any raids or searches to be recorded and documented as much as possible.

      • 24 mababa
        August 20, 2014 at 4:09 pm

        In my younger days I was a street medic at other demonstrations and helped set up these kind of spaces. This is not unusual, they do this type of illegal harassment to disrupt and hinder the capacity to organize, train people, provide comfort, strategize, assemble, and resist. It is part of the playbook. It is a tactical aspect of militarization. I’ve had police tell me they know they are breaking the law and expect to be sued afterwards. I hope the organizers were able to get legal observers there to document their search and what they took.

  12. August 20, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    • August 20, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      Chipsticks and Nerdy Wonka, you have spoiled this TOD community. Whenever there are significant events — especially those involving PBO — we EXPECT that the video will be posted and that the text from speeches will be tweeted. ;-)

      I, for one, don’t want to take what you do for granted so a BIG THANK YOU for all that you do to keep us informed providing this forum where we are often educated and grounded.

  13. 29 amk for obama
    August 20, 2014 at 1:59 pm

  14. August 20, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    These young Russians …

    did a bit of painting in Moscow last night :)

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  17. 36 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Hello TOD.
    So proud of TODers. Chips’ Jake T piece is golden. LL, excellent piece. NW…you Rock. Rock On TOD!
    Tweets posted, say it all. Great job!
    Seriously, GW Bush had ice water dumped on him by Laura? Hmm? How wicked of me for a split second thinking, perhaps, water-boarding might have been better. Oh well….just a wicked thought….with a quick Cross Sign (+)…..seeking redemption for ignoring my Roman Catholic teachings……sorry Mom.
    Missed a lot. POTUS spoke. AG Holder is in Ferguson, MO.
    Thanks TOD and congrats to all the Au :star: winners since Saturday.

  18. August 20, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    • 38 jackiegrumbacher
      August 20, 2014 at 3:27 pm

      Terrific, heartfelt statement from John Kerry. He, like our President, can speak directly from his heart.

  19. August 20, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    • 40 japa21
      August 20, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      I wrote a comment on the R&S thread that gave my opinion on ISIS. The killing of Foley is actually a sign of desperation. They have hit their peak and will start trending downward. It will take a while, but their days are numbered and they know it. When the top Sunni religious leader in SA comes out against you,and you are trying to pass yourselves off as Sunni, you are toast.

      • August 20, 2014 at 2:51 pm

        Agree, John. What they have done is catalyze relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Shia and Sunni, that are unprecedented. Even Assad has started bombing them.

        GOP blocked President Obama from hitting them, in Syria, last year. After what they did to James Foley, no one is going to stop President Obama from vaporizing them.

      • 42 desertflower
        August 20, 2014 at 2:57 pm

        Listening to Thom Hartmann on the quick trip home for lunch today…some caller asked him what he thought we should do about ISIS…Thom pointed out that when ISIS takes a town, they turn ON the power, tend to the goings on of the town so that it looks like they’re doing something good for the community…built things for them, etc…he said that’s what WE should be doing,,,which is all fine , well, and good except that we can’t stroll into these towns and do that….considering that we don’t want those boots on the ground…I know I don’t want any more troops in any of these places….he said that we bombed these places ( Iraq/ Afghanistan) back to the Stone Ages…I would argue they never left the Stone Ages to begin with.

        • August 20, 2014 at 4:27 pm

          Thom’s a nice guy; but clueless. He clearly has spent ZERO time on sites like Peter Clifford’s – sites that detail the absolute barbarism of ISIL/ISIS, df.

          • 44 0388jojothecat
            August 20, 2014 at 5:02 pm

            Thom does not do much research on many topics because he’s busy writing books and running his radio show. He is not as informed as he used to be.

    • 45 COS
      August 20, 2014 at 3:01 pm

      Bobfr, thanks for your response to this tweet.

  20. 46 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    August 20, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    Yesterday, someone mentioned Michael McDonald. Here is his his fb post dtd Aug 14th:

    As someone who spent his first 18 yrs in the St. Louis area, (14 of them in Ferguson Mo. ), I pray for the family of Michael Brown and the entire community that is originally my home town to which I still feel a strong connection.

    I pray this tragic event and the still greater issue that it heralds will be faced and dealt with in an honest and responsible manner by the residents of Ferguson and the people in its leadership positions. That whatever appropriate federal agency is needed to investigate this tragic incident properly, will be deployed post haste to address the questions and frustrations of this community as satisfactorily as is possible, and although nothing can restore this young mans life, I pray that Ferguson can hold together as a community who’s common interest is justice. No matter what that looks like in the end.

    However on a larger landscape, mustn’t we ask ourselves why we’re hearing more and more about the incidents of young black males being gunned down by law enforcement not just in my home town of Ferguson Mo. But all over this country.
    What I think needs to be honestly examined by the larger national community, is the difference between what constitutes a valid reason for use of deadly force when a young white male is the suspected perpetrator of a crime and what those standards seem to be when the suspect is African American.

    Seems to me, we don’t hear of many incidents of young unarmed white males being gunned down for running away from police, or even for resisting arrest.

    In this and all individual cases we must look to forensics and eyewitness accounts to try and get to the truth. However, I don’t think that this is the time for any of us to ignore this obvious discrepancy.

    How many tragic losses of this nature must we endure before we’re called to conscience on this issue.

    Michael McDonald

    • 47 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      August 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      I didn’t realize the link would post as a text block. Sorry for taking us so much space.

  21. 48 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Isn’t it interesting that while many Reporters now know that MO is an Open Carry state……none has asked or posed that question before the Presser given by the Police.

    How come the Press are not releasing photos of those arrested causing the all the problems as narrated by the police in Ferguson, MO? They spouted Molotov, yet in 11 days only one bottle was shown and no picture of one ever thrown? Why cant the Cops lit the whole area with light…thereby a deterrence to anyone who wants to cause problem can easily be seen? Why have a no fly zone? This will give air support to the Media to see what exactly the police is doing.

  22. 49 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 2:49 pm

  23. August 20, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    But obama isn’t rough on the banks and….

  24. August 20, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Nerdy Wonka, your work here is powerful and profound. I do not know how you do it. It means so much to me. It matters so much. I cannot comprehend how you find the strength and tenacity and energy to do it, daily and sometimes hourly. Your curation rocks; and yet you also live-tweet speeches and you write your own commentary, which is consistently brilliant, witty, blazing-hot with justice-fire. Thank you thank you thank you. Take care. You are precious in this world.

  25. 58 japa21
    August 20, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    I have avoided saying too much about the situation in Fergusen for many reasons.

    I will admit to having a bias towards supporting the police. (Not the ones in Ferguson) mainly because I know several and they have a very difficult job and a dangerous one. And the vast majority truly do believe in protect and serve.

    In a way, it is similar to my attitude towards priests. Most, the vast majority, are good men.

    In both cases, it only takes a few to create a negative image of the many.

    The problem is that, as in most closed circles, when one comes under attack, the instinct is to protect that one. It doesn’t matter what the rightness or wrongness of what the one did is. It happened in the Catholic Church and we see it with the police.

    The Church has, finally, and after too long, gotten past that to a great degree. (Not perfectly, but much better)

    It is my hope that, in fact, the behavior of the Ferguson PD and the StLC PD will be a tipping point from with the police community.

    Seeing the complete overreaction my convince other police authorities to look at what they do and how they handle things.

    The article by the man in WI whose son (white) was shot while unarmed and handcuffed by the police was poignant, but also showed what can be done. Although I wonder, if he and his son had been black would the result have been the same.

    Just knowing that an outside agency was investigating the shooting from the beginning and that Wilson was, at a minimum suspended. may have made a big difference.

    And if the police had not been so heavy handed, but just allowed the protests to happen, the outside agitators would probably never have shown up.

    • 59 Nena20409
      August 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm

      Too Many killings of unarmed Black boys and men is where I say: Enough.
      It is year after year at a rate Not happening for any other group.
      Black folks can’t change their pigmentation. Those fearful of them have the problem. But the District Attorney in these districts are partly to blame. Their conviction rate for these cases are not up to par.

      My Church, the Roman Catholic, is at least finally, trying to get rid of their evil predictor priests. This is 2014. In 5 weeks alone, 5 unarmed Black Males are gunned down by police in different states…..400 since 2006.

      One rotten Apple spoils the whole bushel…..it is said. I get it. But those with power….Gun and authority, MUCH More is required.

      Just adding a few thoughts. Not an attack.

    • 62 GGail
      August 20, 2014 at 3:57 pm

      This is not just “One Bad Apple”, this is the Mindset of the whole police department – Ferguson and StLC PD. And what we are seeing even when the citizens are attempting to have peaceful protests, does not allow any room for understanding the behavior of these officers.

      Every person of the Caucasian race should be ashamed of the blatant racist behavior being shown here by these police officers.

      Seeing what I see here in NW post – has gotten me plenty pissed and I’m all the way in California. If the Black Panthers came to Ferguson and open fire – then…

      I am not a violent person – but I have seen ENOUGH

    • August 20, 2014 at 4:44 pm

      It is not all police, but I scratch my head sometimes while wondering where do the nation’s police forces stand on these abominable open-carry, no background check, anyone including minors can purchase guns? I have been hoping all the police in America would take a unified stand, speaking out for safety of all.

  26. 66 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    • 67 GGail
      August 20, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      I hope they had a moment to speak privately somewhere – because it surely ain’t gonna happen here with speaker booms all over and around them.

  27. 68 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 3:07 pm

  28. 69 desertflower
    August 20, 2014 at 3:11 pm

  29. 70 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 3:11 pm

  30. 72 hopefruit2
    August 20, 2014 at 3:22 pm

  31. 73 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Yep…..The Roberts Court is at it again.

    They want to weigh in…..when….in Nov?

  32. 74 hopefruit2
    August 20, 2014 at 3:25 pm

  33. 75 Nerdy Wonka
    August 20, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    On a regular day, I get my fair share from them, because hey, they believe Black people should be seen but not heard. The horror leveled against the Ferguson community has ratcheted up their racist hate.

    They’ve also tried to get into TOD but they get swatted likes the scum they are. :)

    • 76 Nena20409
      August 20, 2014 at 3:31 pm

      Thank you, Nerdy Wonka. You and Chips….keep me sane. The other bts make it bearable. The TOD oasis make right. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

      Keep Shinning, Super :star: NW >-I

    • August 20, 2014 at 3:37 pm

      And swatting those scumbags makes my day, Nerdy – and there have been sooooo many of them lately. Can’t imagine why…..

  34. 78 JER
    August 20, 2014 at 3:32 pm

  35. 79 JER
    August 20, 2014 at 3:34 pm

  36. 80 JER
    August 20, 2014 at 3:36 pm

  37. August 20, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    We cannot tolerate this flagrant violation of civil rights. Ferguson police are behaving like storm troopers and they need to be removed. They are not protecting and they are not serving. OUTRAGEOUS.

  38. 82 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    And those trying to mock POTUS for calling ISIS/ISIL some Kobe/LA Lakers wannabes…..just paraphrasing. POTUS was right then. Just last year, POTUS asked Congress to approve airstrikes in Syria, they ran away like Roaches running when lights are turned on.

    So please, spare me with your Malarkey Media, Righties and Haters.

    I pity the so called Academicians…..Black, White, whatever color when they attack president Obama. They spout off without solutions. Wanting pres Obama to be their comfort blanket? I say: get yourself a love partner or better yet, get a pacifier. He is POTUS, not your daddy/mommy issue.

  39. August 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    • August 20, 2014 at 4:08 pm

      okay – those out of control cops are so disgusting i’m totally shocked. please of there’s anything people around the world can do to help in more concrete ways please advise. thank you tod for this coverage. what is awful is knowing that this is happening all over america, everyday, that there are so many episodes of injustice that are not exposed.

    • 85 MadameSoph
      August 20, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      Hi Meta, thank you Chips and Nerdy! Love and healing hugs to all of TOD (including myself) ’cause we are all a little more in need of comfort these days.

      Maybe I’m being too conspiratorial here but I am getting more and more suspicious about this flagrant and almost entirely unprovoked violence and abuse by this PD. With this latest attack on the church, raiding medical supplies and water, it seems to me that there may be much more going on here than just an “over the top response”

      We know by the comments of some of these officers (as in the tweet above), as well as the right-wing media outlets they are communicating through, that they (most of them anyway) are far-right, brown-people-fearing “us or them” types. We have compared the treatment of those open carry idiots and the Bundy Ranch militants with that of the citizens of Ferguson. I would say that this PD is made up of those open carry Bundy Ranch types – the type that see our federal government as the enemy. What does our current federal government have in common with the citizens of Ferguson? Yep.

      The old saying, “If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…etc” applies here. This PD looks like they are at war and behaves like they are at war. I have a very strong fear/suspicion that they are actually trying to start a war, the one all the far-right reactionaries are always talking about.

      My prayers are surrounding our Attorney General Eric Holder with love and light as he attempts to right this ship. I think he and the President are dealing with much more than people realize here.

      • August 20, 2014 at 4:21 pm

        i don’t think you are being conspiratorial – this smacks of a calculated power move. it’s like they’re trying to break any resistance to assume complete control. media needs to stay on it – including from around the world. even more people need to become involved – with protest, donating supplies etc. if nerdy or anyone knows of an organisation that is receiving donations from people around the world please let me know.

      • August 20, 2014 at 4:23 pm

        I agree with EVERY WORD you spoke.

      • 88 Vicki
        August 20, 2014 at 5:57 pm

        I’ve been offering many of these same thoughts on TOD you’ve expressed here, MadameSoph. I want so much for both of us to be wrong.

      • 90 sjterrid
        August 20, 2014 at 6:31 pm

        MadameSoph, this comment actually seems accurate to me. Considering all the crazy right wing conspiracies that they have been throwing against President Obama, this is exactly what they have been trying to incite.

  40. 91 carolyn
    August 20, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Fortunately PBO is not the only adult in the room. We have two others: John Kerry and Eric Holder. So thankful for these three wise men.

  41. August 20, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    What a breath of fresh air:

    GREENFIELD — Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick today said he is “sick of unarmed, black men being shot by police” in his first comments since a black teenager was killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., spurring riots, looting and a heavily militarized response by police.

    “I’m sick of it,” Patrick said with a heavy sigh. “I’m sick of unarmed, black men being shot by police. I’m sick of the lawlessness on the streets. I think everyone is just tired of when are we going to get through with this kind of thing.”

    [snip]

    “ We have a great challenge in this country acknowledging the extraordinary progress we have made on race relations — much of it in my lifetime. And at the same time, acknowledging how much remains to be done,” the governor told reporters, speaking with emotion. “You hear people from time to time who are 100 percent in one or the other of those views, that everything’s been done and nothing remains, or everything remains to be done.

    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2014/08/patrick_on_ferguson_sick_of_unarmed_black_men_being_shot_by

  42. 94 Nena20409
    August 20, 2014 at 4:06 pm

  43. 95 jacquelineoboomer
    August 20, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    In a perfect world, my only advice for Attorney General Holder, if I had the chance to tell him, would be:

    Please inform all of the law enforcement officers in the Greater Ferguson area that they have two choices:

    1. Stand down and join the protesters, their fellow citizens, or

    2. Face arrest and prosecution for hate crimes.

    Then, I’d remind him to have the transports ready to take them all to federal prison. No need to strip them all of their badges, since they’re not wearing their badges or nameplates.

  44. August 20, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    • August 20, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      didn’t notice any serious facial injury on the phone film shot by a neighbour either …

      • August 20, 2014 at 4:24 pm

        Ah, true Cluny.

        The main thing for me is that when ‘Josie’ told Wilson’s story, which was designed to make Michael Brown sound like a thug who attacked Wilson, she never mentioned the injury.

        Wouldn’t you think she would to strengthen the case?

        Incredible.

        • August 20, 2014 at 4:54 pm

          exactly chips. by the way – great jake tapper takedown – couldn’t agree more with your objections. what does the guy want? elephant stamps? gold stars?

        • August 20, 2014 at 5:14 pm

          Chips,

          Also, the POS, Police Chief never mentioned facial injury either. This is all a bunch of hogwash!

          Thank you for all that you do every day!

          • August 20, 2014 at 5:16 pm

            Helloooooo WilTal! I looked that up earlier today and all Jackson said was that he heard – but hadn’t seen – that Wilson had a swollen face and had been taken to hospital. Team Wilson just didn’t its story straight.

            This made me smile, probably so true:

    • 103 Nena20409
      August 20, 2014 at 4:17 pm

      ChipsFactChecks strikes again. WTG Lady ;)

    • August 20, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      Which is why the question of injuries/wounds on Michael Brown was important. According the second autopsy, the only injury other than the gunshots was on his face from when he hit the pavement. If Wilson had injuries the inference is supposed to be that they were sustained during his supposed struggle with Michael Brown, then wouldn’t there have been other wounds found during the autopsy?

      • August 20, 2014 at 4:51 pm

        Exactly swbluega – and as I said earlier, if this gets to trial, looking forward to Wilson’s team magically producing x-rays/scans showing that fractured eye socket.

      • 106 vcprezofan2
        August 20, 2014 at 5:29 pm

        When I hear stories of police officers so often getting the worst end of a physical confrontation I wonder why is it they are so unfit and untrained. When you think about it, the police only ever ‘win’ when they (over)kill someone, which leaves their version of events on the table.

    • August 20, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      I keep wishing that someone has recorded the whole incident and has given the video to the feds. But since the FBI has been interrogating hundreds of people, unfortunately it looks like they don’t have the smoking gun. They need an abundance of witnesses to make the case.

      Officer Wilson surely didn’t seem critically injured when he was walking up and down the street minutes after the shooting.

      And I’m sorry, but the lack of transparency from Chief Jackson has made me completely distrust him. I don’t rule any shenanigans, like Wilson being hit by a fellow comrade in the hours after the shooting, just to create false evidence.

      And the leaking, drip by drip, of supposed “evidence” that would help Wilson, surely looks like the Ferguson PD is playing a game here.

      Yes, it’s Trayvon Martin all over again. Same lack of transparency from the police, same bizarre breach from normal protocols, same sentiment that the police is trying to slow the process, etc.

      • August 20, 2014 at 5:40 pm

        I was so hoping for a video to emerge too Lovepolitics2008, in these days we expect video of almost every incident out there.

        I wouldn’t trust anyone in that police department, judging by this and endless other incidents they’ve been involved in, and we can be sure they’re using all this time to concoct a story and to try and get that story straight (which they’re failing to do so far). And I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if one of his colleague later gave Wilson an injury to make it look like he had been attacked, these people would stoop to anything.

  45. 109 JER
    August 20, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    Ken Vincent collaborated with Traeger di Pietro at the Edgartown lighthouse last weekend. The two men painted an image of the First Couple, while local production whiz Chris Mara projected the process on the lighthouse.

  46. August 20, 2014 at 4:29 pm

  47. 112 Linda
    August 20, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    I typed in to google : “Orbital Blowout Fracture of the Eye Socket”

    The first 3 pages were entirely links to Darren Wilson’s ” friends” claim.

    Here is what I found on page 4.

    http://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/ncal/provider/acheng/resources/dc/article?article=article_191295.xml

    It appears that if in fact that is true , Wilson would have required immediate treatment and would have had a black eye by the time he left the seen 4 hours later.

  48. August 20, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    A little bit of PROGRESS:


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