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Early Bird Chat

On This Day: President Barack Obama visits the Women’s Rights National Historical Park Visitors Center, in Seneca Falls, N.Y., Aug. 22, 2013 (Photo by Pete Souza)

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Morning – Happy Friday!


145 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”


  1. 1 vcprezofan2
    August 22, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Morning/Evening, take your pick. Greetings TODvilllage!

  2. August 22, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Good Friday Chipsticks…TOD Family!

  3. 19 amk for obama
    August 22, 2014 at 8:04 am

    I lined’em up and shot’em

    index

    GM folks.

  4. 32 jackiegrumbacher
    August 22, 2014 at 8:06 am

    Good morning, Chips, VC and early TODers. Last night’s tribute to Mike Brown was deeply moving and beautiful. There is no other site with the compassion, sensitivity– not to mention relentless reporting–of TOD. I feel sorry for people who don’t have this resource to come to every day. We are all better people for being here.

    • 33 vcprezofan2
      August 22, 2014 at 8:20 am

      Good Morning, JackieG! I am still perusing the tribute post, while feeling good at how fortunate we are to have the chance to make our virtual home here.

      ps: Are you going to do a couple of test-tweet-a-picture runs today (grabbing pictures from ‘the Google’) so that you’ll be an expert by tomorrow’s Latina festival?

      • 34 jackiegrumbacher
        August 22, 2014 at 9:22 am

        VC, I am so frantic with stuff to do before tomorrow and rain is forecast, so I’m depressed as well. I’m going to have this fiesta if I have to do it soaking wet, so don’t know if I can manage a photo tweet today. Yesterday, I was sick and spent the day trying to get a quick visit into the doc and some medication. What a week!!!

        • 35 vcprezofan2
          August 22, 2014 at 9:26 am

          Hush. {{JackieG}}

          I will cross my fingers that the weather tomorrow will be great, or if not great then bearable, for your fiesta. Hopefully you all can have access to some cover if all does not go as you wish weather-wise. Will be thinking of you! Take care of your health, please.

    • August 22, 2014 at 8:30 am

      Morning Jackie, what a lovely thing to say, I already loved the BTs before this, but their work on Ferguson has been just wonderful.

    • 37 99ts
      August 22, 2014 at 8:39 am

      GM jackie

      Lovely thoughts indeed – a lovely calming place it is

  5. 38 amk for obama
    August 22, 2014 at 8:09 am

  6. 39 amk for obama
    August 22, 2014 at 8:13 am

  7. August 22, 2014 at 8:15 am

    Awesome! In this country we have rondo of days politicians like rick perry. In Israel we have end of days leader Nut and yahoo. And now ISIS.
    These three religions are responsible for so many wars.

  8. August 22, 2014 at 8:16 am

    Chipsticks, Nerdy Wonka, BT’s and Contributors…it’s been a heck of a week; one that’s been bearable largely due to your diligent efforts in keeping us updated and educated about what’s happening – both within the U.S. and abroad. I am grateful for the hard work and dedication put into this site. You all are amazing!!!

  9. 46 africa
    August 22, 2014 at 8:27 am

    Happy Friday TODers

    Heeeeya Chips!!

  10. August 22, 2014 at 8:29 am

    They just had a segment of narcissism on msnbc.
    Then, a US doctor that survived ebola said he was chosen to survive ebola from God.
    Got it!

    • 49 miss pat
      August 22, 2014 at 2:08 pm

      Yep, we got it. He is one of God’s chosen people. Good for him. Then go back and treat the people there. God will protect you; again!

  11. 50 amk for obama
    August 22, 2014 at 8:34 am

  12. 51 Roberta in MN
    August 22, 2014 at 8:35 am

    GM everyone.

  13. August 22, 2014 at 8:38 am

  14. 54 GGAIL
    August 22, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family.

    YAY it’s Friday!!!

    GOOOAAALLL :D

    • August 22, 2014 at 8:43 am

      Gooooooooooooooal morning GGail!!!!

      • 56 GGAIL
        August 22, 2014 at 8:53 am

        Chips, you bring the first smile to my face every morning <3

        Then…amk`s runts give me my second smile :-)

        • August 22, 2014 at 8:55 am

          I read that too quickly GGail, I thought you said “that Amk runt” and I thought, ‘oooooh, rude’.
          :-) Morning again you!!

          • 58 GGAIL
            August 22, 2014 at 8:59 am

            Ha, ooooo you trying to start trouble cuz you know I won’t be around long to defend myself. Stop it! LOL!

          • 59 amk for obama
            August 22, 2014 at 8:59 am

            how did you know?

            • 60 GGAIL
              August 22, 2014 at 9:05 am

              amk, the answer…it’s Chips :shock:

            • 61 vcprezofan2
              August 22, 2014 at 9:30 am

              Yo, you! Do you happen to have a jackfruit tree on your premises? I was just reading an email a friend sent me about the wonderful medicinal properties of all parts of the jackfruit, even the tree bark and the roots and leaves. Apparently the fruit is greatly prized in India. Is that the truth? And if *your* jackfruit tree is bearing fruits right now, would you please send one (or two) by overnight courier, so that I can test a few of their claims? Thanks in advance, vc.

              • 62 amk for obama
                August 22, 2014 at 9:39 am

                No, I don’t. But there is a nearby town Panruti where it grows plenty. But us indians eat only the delish fruit.

                • 63 vcprezofan2
                  August 22, 2014 at 9:47 am

                  So the article lied. Sigh. It told this touching story of how the people of Bali had to go to so much effort, up mountains and all, to harvest jackfruits, then went on to say how it was used for a gazillion cures in India, etc. etc. [Yes, I know that’s two different places, but supposedly the author lived in India for a while and discovered its many uses there.

                  O, I forgot; since Panruti is nearby, how about taking a walk there this eve before your bedtime and picking up a couple of jfs for me? Send them with some of the leaves, please. I still want to test out some of the touted medicinal properties, and plan to try the leaves as tea – I am particularly fond of herbal teas. {See that Meta!}

                  • 64 amk for obama
                    August 22, 2014 at 9:48 am

                    what? you don’t want a whole tree?

                    • 65 vcprezofan2
                      August 22, 2014 at 10:07 am

                      I never thought of that! :) You are soooo generous. Wow! Would it grow here, do you think? I’m willing to try if you think it would work. :grin:

                  • 66 miss pat
                    August 22, 2014 at 2:13 pm

                    Jackfruit is here in the States. I see it at the West Indian markets. You maybe can find it at the Spanish fruit markets if you live near one. I will look at see if I see it in cans, maybe brined and canned and let you know. Also try Amazon.com. They might have it there.

                    • 67 vcprezofan2
                      August 22, 2014 at 5:47 pm

                      Hi, Ms Pat. Thank you so much for your suggestions. :) I know I can get jackfruit in the West Indian stores here when it is ‘in season’, and I live about 45mins away from a really good WI store. However, faced with the option of getting my own jackfruit tree (from the motherland, so to speak), I simply could not turn down Amk’s kind offer. Think of it, I wouldn’t have to get in the car and drive, instead I could just meet the Purolator guy at the door, or better yet, step into the backyard and pick a fresh, ripe, jackfruit. Honestly, my mouth waters at the very thought!

                      Somewhat O/T: I wonder if I could convince Michelle to add a jackfruit tree to the WH greenhouse? hmmmm

  15. August 22, 2014 at 8:48 am

    G’morning Chips & TOD! Happy Friday everyone. :)

  16. 70 amk for obama
    August 22, 2014 at 8:49 am

  17. 71 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Morning!! Happy Friday! amk…those babies are precious:) LL…. {{{Stewie}}} Hope his paw gets better soon…I can’t believe that he’ll stand for that contraption too much longer.

    Beautiful, beautiful tribute to Mike Brown. The photos are so amazing and touching. Just wow.
    Today is another day…go out and do something kind for someone else.

  18. August 22, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Good Morning, Chips and TOD!

  19. 73 amk for obama
    August 22, 2014 at 8:50 am

  20. August 22, 2014 at 8:51 am

    I hope that Larry O’s Opening Segment from last night will be in Rise and Shine.

  21. 75 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 9:03 am

    In other news….Way to go, Vlad!!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28855966

    Russia’s embargo on imported Western food is hitting its own people, as food prices in Moscow shops have jumped by up to 6% in just a week.

    Moscow officials say frozen fish prices in the capital’s major supermarkets have risen by 6%, milk by 5.3% and an average cheese costs 4.4% more than it did before the 7 August ban took effect.

    Russia has banned imports of those basic foods, as well as meat and many other products, from Western countries, Australia and Japan. It is retaliation for the West’s sanctions on Russia over the revolt by pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine.

    And it is not just Moscow. On the island of Sakhalin, in Russia’s far east, officials say the price of chicken thighs has soared 60%. Before the sanctions these were among the cheapest and most popular meat products in Russia.

    In the neighbouring Primorye region fish is now reportedly 40% more expensive than just a few weeks ago.

    Starving his citizens too..because, the West is mean. Great job, bozo!

    • 76 japa21
      August 22, 2014 at 9:27 am

      There is one error in that article snippet posted here.

      ” the West’s sanctions on Russia over the revolt by pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine” is incorrect. The sanctions are not due to the pro-Russian separatists, it is due to Russia aiding and assisting those separatists, and possibly even initiaing military action against Ukraine.

  22. August 22, 2014 at 9:06 am

    From Larry O:

    St. Louis County prosecutors office confirmed that Ferguson PD didn’t file a report after the shooting death of Michael Brown. Our panel joins Lawrence.

    http://on.msnbc.com/YGCb42

  23. 79 Linda
    August 22, 2014 at 9:07 am

    I see the smearing of Dorian Johnson has begun…….

    • August 22, 2014 at 9:12 am

      Saw that on CNN last night Linda, Anderson Cooper going on about a conviction he had for a false report. Which is fair enough, his history will be scrutinized any way if there is a trial, but it would be so nice if the media were equally curious about Wilson’s history and that of the Ferguson PD. And if they didn’t rush to report the claims of Wilson’s buddies, eg the eye socket. The reporting is even worse than I feared.

      • August 22, 2014 at 9:31 am

        Yes, but there are other *independent* witness accounts that corroborate Johnson’s account. Will all of these witnesses also be subject to a smear campaign?

        Plus the whole idea that Wilson will possibly be able to present his story to the grand jury. How is this acceptable when, as one of LOD’s guest stated, the purpose of the prosecutor to put the case before a grand jury is to get an indictment; not clear the accused. A preliminary hearing would have been more acceptable. At least it would have been more transparent to everyone.

        • August 22, 2014 at 9:49 am

          “Yes, but there are other *independent* witness accounts that corroborate Johnson’s account.”

          Exactly right swbluega, and we know what will happen – every single one of them who offers to give evidence will be smeared.

    • 83 99ts
      August 22, 2014 at 9:19 am

      Funny how no-one – but no-one is investigating the shooter. The US media is all for the WHITE defendants – no other way to describe it.

  24. 84 africa
    August 22, 2014 at 9:14 am

  25. August 22, 2014 at 9:14 am

    “Michelle Nunn, David Perdue face off in debate in Macon”

    http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/LIVE-Michelle-Nunn-David-Perdue-face-off-in-debate–272049301.html

    MACON, Ga. (AP) — Democrat Michelle Nunn on Thursday ramped up her attacks on Republican David Perdue in Georgia’s closely watched Senate race, portraying her opponent as an obstructionist who would continue gridlock in Washington.

    She also called out Perdue over his opposition to the academic standards known as Common Core, the most recent farm bill and a bipartisan plan for immigration reform.

    Within minutes of winning the election for the Republican nomination, David said this election is about prosecuting the administration and the president,” Nunn said.

    Perdue did not respond directly to Nunn’s attacks and instead focused on criticizing Democratic policies from the federal health care law to environmental regulations.

    =====

    A couple of her ads highlights out how Romney-esque David Perdue is:

    • August 22, 2014 at 9:20 am

      She’s behind by 6. I say, put all the money in Louisiana, Arkansas and NC to save the senate.
      God save the senate. :)

    • 90 99ts
      August 22, 2014 at 9:21 am

      Good to see that she – at last – mentioned the President

      “Within minutes of winning the election for the Republican nomination, David said this election is about prosecuting the administration and the president,” Nunn said.”

      • August 22, 2014 at 9:40 am

        Also in Romney fashion, during the primary, Perdue attacked his opponents for being a part of the gridlock in Washington; representing them as babies in his ad. Now, for the general election, he seems to be open in his intent to do the same.

    • 92 Linda
      August 22, 2014 at 9:30 am

      I live in Georgia and I am seeing Nunn signs in places I could never have imagined in rural counties.

      There is a huge drive to get minorities registered to vote.

      800,000 are not registered.

  26. 94 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 9:28 am

    I just wanted to wish jackie g a great day tomorrow with the Latin Festival :) Hope that lots of people show up, lots of voter registrations get signed and you just plain have some fun and meet great people!! Rain or Shine! I admire all the hard work that you put into this event and before life got too hectic, I wanted to wish you well tomorrow:)

    • 95 jackiegrumbacher
      August 22, 2014 at 9:49 am

      Df, thank you, We have all worked hard and could use all the good thoughts and prayers you can spare.

      • 96 desertflower
        August 22, 2014 at 9:54 am

        OH, you got that!!! :) Hope the rain stays away, at least until it’s over…and that you have a most excellent turnout for this important event. Fingers crossed:)

  27. 97 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 9:32 am

    I think Smartypants is like a really, really smart and levelheaded…no, make that gifted, sister. Another good read

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-presidency-is-more-than-bully-pulpit.html

  28. 100 hopefruit2
    August 22, 2014 at 9:36 am

    Oh, the media’s pining for the good ol’ days of Bubba manifest in their nonstop pieces about Obama vs Billary….

  29. 107 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 9:38 am

    ISIS sells $3M of black market oil daily? (CNN) Gee…then since PBO has drastically cut the oil imports from foreign countries, and Republicans want to ramp up the drilling for oil and the use of fossil fuels, could we then say that Republicans are fueling the terrorists and murders of ISIS? I think yes! Someone needs to POINT THIS OUT.

  30. 108 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 9:49 am

    OK…Let me know if I’m seeing things, or I’m nuts or grasping at straws here! This was the video from the store that is supposed to show that Mike Brown PAID for his cigarellos….i see that happening. What ELSE I see happening ( I think) is the guy in the background looking to me like HE might actually be stealing something! Could this be a case of mistaken identity? They both have white shirts on…maybe someone fudged/screwed up the description. Am I nuts?? I’ve watched this many times and still see the same thing…

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/

    • 109 desertflower
      August 22, 2014 at 9:53 am

      I need someone to look at this and answer my question:) This will drive me crazy today otherwise…

    • August 22, 2014 at 10:00 am

      Desertflower, I HATE linking to the Daily Mail, but there’s a clearer video there of the guy in the background, it looks like he’s paying the woman who just went behind the counter – scroll down to the ‘Surveillance: Michael Brown suspected in ‘strong-arm’ robbery video:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2725917/Ferguson-police-Officer-Darren-Wilson-cop-shot-dead-unarmed-teenager-Michael-Brown.html

      What do you think?

      • 111 desertflower
        August 22, 2014 at 10:09 am

        It won’t play for me, CHips…sometimes certain videos DON’T play for me and I have no idea why…this one won’t. On the video I posted, it appears to me as if that guy in the background slips something into his pocket and casually walks out of the store…all this is happening as Mike appears to be paying for his stuff. Is it possible that this IS mistaken identity…that the little dustup with the store manager or whoever that worker was, is because he mistook Mike for the guy that was already out of the store that never paid…and MIke is pissed because he was just accused of doing something that he DIDN’T do…but the guy that actually DID steal something is out the door and long gone?? This is what my eyes see…this is how this feels in my gut now…

        • August 22, 2014 at 10:22 am

          I have that problem with videos all the time DF, they work in some browsers, not in others. Here’s the video:

          From 0:33 you see a shop worker coming out from the back and going in behind the counter, the guy goes up to her and appears to pay for what he’s picked up, I think he’s putting the change in his pocket.

          • 113 desertflower
            August 22, 2014 at 10:37 am

            definitely different view…thanks for posting this because now my original thought is fuzzier…that said, still not even close to a reason to shoot someone…never mind murder them.

    • 115 Linda
      August 22, 2014 at 10:04 am

      I just don’t see where he paid df…and Dorian Johnson has said that Michael Brown stole them.

      Would the store clerk have come forward already if he had paid for them ?

      • 116 desertflower
        August 22, 2014 at 10:13 am

        There’s also THIS from the story at this post:

        Whatever words were exchanged between the man in the video and the store owner, they were not considered very serious, as the store owner nor the employees did not report a theft at the store. According to the stores attorney, the owners were bewildered when the police approached them demanding the surveillance tapes.

        Makes no sense

  31. 117 hopefruit2
    August 22, 2014 at 9:52 am

    • August 22, 2014 at 9:58 am

      HF,
      I think he’s Jewish, thus probably a huge supporter of Bibi.
      The end!

      • August 22, 2014 at 10:00 am

        Ah Jovie, some of Bibi’s fiercest and most passionate critics are Jewish.

        • 120 Vicki
          August 22, 2014 at 10:02 am

          Me, for example, and I am anything but alone.

        • 122 hopefruit2
          August 22, 2014 at 10:07 am

          I agree Chips.

          Ezra’s beef is not about Bibi – it’s about the ACA, which he was hoping to write many books on how and why it failed. That did not materialize and poor Ezra is left spinning…

          • August 22, 2014 at 10:37 am

            in addition…Ezra is one of those pundits who are intimidated by the blk man in the white house…….who believe that they are smarter and have more savvy than PBO….so they are always looking for lil digs to prove that they are right and he is wrong….only they never really do and end up with egg on their face…or they distort the info in some kind of way…

            • 124 hopefruit2
              August 22, 2014 at 10:40 am

              Yup. Ezra knows he’s not smarter than PBO. And that’s the problem; he has realized PBO’s brilliance and is very uncomfortable with it, and so is trying to convince himself otherwise…

    • 125 Vicki
      August 22, 2014 at 10:00 am

      See above remarks about Billary.
      Same applies to Ezra.
      They all have no opening so they are whining when they have to do something and silent the rest of the time
      I didn’t hear much celebration for the improving unemployment numbers or any economic data, for example.

  32. August 22, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Morning good folks and congrats vc way at the top!

  33. August 22, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Ya right! The land of guns? America has more guns then anybody including terrorists . That won’t work. Lol

  34. 128 desertflower
    August 22, 2014 at 9:57 am

    LOD’s piece on Ferguson PD not having an incident report. Video here too

    http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2014/08/ferguson-pd-fail-produce-incident

    • 129 desertflower
      August 22, 2014 at 10:01 am

      Just watched this…it is a portion of this segment, not entire segment. Enough to know that this officer should be FIRED as well as the police chief for enabling this to happen.

      • 130 anniebella
        August 22, 2014 at 10:11 am

        I saw them talking about Darren Wilson not filing a incident report on the Last Word last night.. The police chief and the police lawyers know the officer did something wrong and they are trying to protect him. Now we know why the black people of Ferguson don’t trust them.

  35. 131 hopefruit2
    August 22, 2014 at 10:04 am

    This is how Hayes has spun the Ferguson incident. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    • August 22, 2014 at 10:08 am

      I’d say he doesn’t know himself Hopefruit, Greenwald probably DMed it to him to tweet. Next one: “And it’s all Obama’s fault.”

      • 133 hopefruit2
        August 22, 2014 at 10:38 am

        That’s why I keep telling folks to take these media show-boaters with the appropriate amount of salt. They’re all there to obscure the facts and the sad reality of race and privilege in America.

        Hayes was just using Ferguson as a means to write his next think piece or book about how the government (under Obama and Holder of course) is screwing millions and millions of Americans over and over….

        • 134 Vicki
          August 22, 2014 at 11:00 am

          Dear Chips and hopefruit, I love and respect you both but on Chris Hayes, at least for now, perhaps we may agree to disagree. I see that tweet as coming from a man whose eyes are opening and who is struggling to make sense of what he sees.
          He is trying to put a name on it, to use current lingo.
          Is he also hoping for recognition?
          Sure. So far, though, I believe in Chris Hayes’ good will.

          • August 22, 2014 at 11:12 am

            I understand Vicki, and I know lots of my Twitter pals feel the same way, they’ve been very impressed with his Ferguson reporting. I most definitely have a HUGE bias against him, as you’ll have spotted :-) I dislike him so much I can’t even watch him, I just see the occasional tweet from him. My sense about him is always that he’s a privileged smart ass who has lived in a bubble, and that what’s happening in Ferguson shocks him is kind of proof of that to me. He’s been in the media for years, he has his own show, the lives of communities like the one in Ferguson, and their treatment at the hands of the police, shouldn’t be a surprise to him, if he’d done his job and opened his eyes he would have known already. But if they’re open now, and that’s good.

          • 136 hopefruit2
            August 22, 2014 at 11:37 am

            Vicki I really wish I could put a good spin on this. But try as I may – I can’t.

            If Hayes is not equipped to comment on these complex situations – perhaps he should just refrain from commenting at all. Because these vague assessments actually confuse readers, and are not helpful in the grand scheme of getting people to understand what’s really at play.

            I think Hayes is trying to have it both ways – he has a Libertarian audience that he needs to satisfy. On the other hand, he has to demonstrate some degree of empathy given what he experienced in Ferguson. The problem is that you cannot use an incident that is unambiguously racially-driven to placate your libertarian followers without coming off like a phony asshole to those on the other side. It just won’t work.

    • 137 desertflower
      August 22, 2014 at 10:40 am

      I think a better word would have been oppression, not occupation. You disagree?

      • 138 hopefruit2
        August 22, 2014 at 10:41 am

        And the term “millions and millions of Americans” seems to deliberately obscure the racial component that is so unmistakable in the Ferguson case.

      • 139 Vicki
        August 22, 2014 at 11:05 am

        Oppression might be more accurate, df.
        However,
        I think occupation comes to mind when the police turn out the street lights and use night vision goggles, which happened in Ferguson. Hard not to link mentally to Gaza which Israel claims to have left, but turns off water and electricity at whim.

    • August 22, 2014 at 11:25 am

      • 141 Vicki
        August 22, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        Ok, everyone. I see I am in a resounding minority here. From which I conclude that I am probably wrong about Chris Hayes.

        • August 22, 2014 at 12:36 pm

          But Vicki, I’m in the minority here about Manchester United, but I’m completely right – so you might be too :-)

          • 143 Vicki
            August 22, 2014 at 3:35 pm

            I am more likely wrong but here is a fact to consider: Chris Hayes grew up in The Bronx in a working class family and went to a public high school. A good one, though, Hunter in Manhattan. Then, on to Brown university. Next I will look up the bio on the truly detestable Ezra.

  36. August 28, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Posting as the last one on each thread!
    Value the input from all.


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