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Ferguson: Walking The Walk

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119 Responses to “Ferguson: Walking The Walk”


  1. August 23, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    April’s piece was everything Prof. Dyson should be saying, but isn’t, due to the green jealousy filtering his view.

    • August 24, 2014 at 12:49 am

      Well put, LL! This is the problem with the so called public intellectuals, including “blackademics.”Most of the so called public intellectuals have become mostly performers who covet approval and validation from their fellow media pundit class. Bashing President Obama is now trendy with the media Pundit class. Public intellectuals know that they will receive accolades when they bash President Obama.That’s why for these Black public intellectuals/academics, It’s not chick to seriously think about the dual role of a President. First, he is the President of all the Americans, including those who strongly hate him. Second, he is the head of the Executive branch of the government, which includes the Department of Justice, that must ensure that laws are fairly and impartially carried out.

      It really saddens me to see the supposedly well educated people, like Professor Michael E. Dyson, using double standards in their criticism of President Obama. I don’t remember any one asking Dwight Eisenhower to personally to go to Arkansas (1957) or New Orleans (1960) after whites rioted to try to prevent Blacks from attending all white schools. I don’t remember any one asking JFK to personally go to Oxford, Mississippi (1962), or Birmingham, AL (1963) following the white violence to prevent James Meredith from being enrolled at the University of Mississippi, and after the Church bombing that resulted in the death of four innocent black girls. Neither President JFK, nor his brother AG, RFK went to Alabama and Mississippi to protect Freedom riders who were being brutalized by local and state police, as well as terrorists groups like the KKK. LBJ never went to Selma or Montgomery, despite the fact that the Selma-to-Montgomery marchers were brutalized, and three people lost their lives. LBJ never went to Watts, or Detroit after cops shot Black people thereby triggering massive resistance (also called riots) that ended up with more people killed. I honestly don’t know what’s wrong with all these simplistic “blackademics,” who just don’t realize that a President of the United States, bully pulpit or no bully pulpit, cannot usefully insert himself/herself personally in an on going civil disturbance. What exactly did Professor Dyson expect the President to do in Ferguson, MO? Did he expect him, Secret Service and all, to lead the Protest against the racist Ferguson Police? Did he want the President to go Ferguson and be arrested and thrown in jail in order to prove that he really cares about Black people and is dedicated to ensure that killer of the teenager, Michael Brown, faces justice?

      Professor Michael Eric Dyson condemns the President for not going to Ferguson, Mo, but he himself didn’t go to Ferguson, MO. His excuse: ” I am not the President.” I suppose, following the attempted assassination of, James Meredith, MLK, Floyd McKissick, Stokely Carmichael, John Lewis, and thousands of people of all ages, should have gone on television to condemn LBJ for not going to Memphis to lead the “March Against Fear” that Meredith had embarked on before was ambushed and shot, because, like Professor Dyson, they were not the President. I know President Obama campaigned for change, but I never imagined that one of the fundamental changes that would occur under his Presidency was the emergency of “Blackademics,” who believe that their only responsibility is to launch vigorous and sustained criticism of President Obama to clearly show that he is not a real Black person and that he doesn’t care about Black people. One thing that “blackademics” haven’t yet figured out is why most Black folks won’t buy their BS about President Obama. It’s true that many “holier than thou? white progressives buy into the BS of “blackademics.” But as far as I know, the vast majority of Black people, who always have their antennas up to detect all sorts BS, are fully aware that President Obama is in their corner. Many of my friends don’t appreciate the way PRESIDENT Obama has been treated. They are especially appalled by all the blatantly ugly disrespectful treatment he has been subjected to by the media and the Republican party. They just can’t stand these “blackademics” who think that it’s perfectly O.K. to join right ,wingers and most of the MSM, in the hatred and disrespect of President Obama.

  2. August 23, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    This is where I stand. Come at me.

  3. August 23, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    Trying out a new-to-me bourbon, Old Crow, which supposedly was a favorite of Pres. U.S. Grant and Mark Twain. Makes a mighty smooth Manhattan. And it’s CHEAP.

  4. August 23, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Congrats Nospin!!! Looks like Chips’s stealth mode was malfunctioning :D

    A couple of interesting articles/studies I ran across today:

    From the aerospace sector to Silicon Valley, engineering has a retention problem: Close to 40 percent of women with engineering degrees either leave the profession or never enter the field. Conventional wisdom says that women in engineering face obstacles such as the glass ceiling, a lack of self-confidence and a lack of mentors. But psychologists who delved deeper into the issue with a new study found that the biggest pushbacks female engineers receive come from the environments they work in. The findings were announced recently at the annual American Psychological Association convention in Washington, D.C.

    Over the course of three years, Nadya Fouad, a psychologist at the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, surveyed 5,300 women who earned engineering degrees within the past six decades in order to figure out why so few stayed in engineering. Fouad reported that only 62 percent of respondents were currently working in engineering. Those who left the field provided their reasons for doing so in the survey.

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    The answer, Fouad said, was simple: “It’s the climate, stupid!” she said during her presentation, referring to the “old-boys club” workplaces that she says still exist in many engineering organizations. Respondents in her study reflected her sentiments, with many calling the engineering workplace unfriendly and even hostile to women. They also said they felt that many of these companies did not provide opportunities for women like them to advance and develop. “Women’s departure from engineering is not just an issue of ‘leaning in,’ ” said Fouad, lead researcher of the study. “It’s about changing the work environment.”…continued

  5. August 23, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    In states not expanding Medicaid, 6.7 million residents will remain uninsured in 2016 as a result. These states are foregoing $423.6 billion in federal Medicaid funds from 2013 to 2022, lessening economic activity and job growth. Their hospitals are also losing $167.8 billion in Medicaid revenue. Every comprehensive state-level fiscal analysis that we could find concluded that expansion helps state budgets, generating savings and revenues that exceed increased Medicaid costs. Future federal cuts to ACA’s high federal match rate are unlikely. Of more than 100 federal Medicaid cuts since 1980, just one lowered the federal share of Medicaid spending…. via the Urban Institute:

  6. 24 Linda
    August 23, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    CNN just said that one of the people PBO is sending to StL on Monday went to high school with Michael Brown’s mother.

  7. August 23, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    Congrats on 1st nospin :)

    I doubt he will ever have the courage to respond, but this Dyson dude has revealed himself to be a fool regarding the role of ANY President in a situation requiring Justice Department investigation of potential violations of Federal Law. He’s also a fool to mess with folk like NW, Kasai & Only4RM.

    • 26 desertflower
      August 23, 2014 at 8:09 pm

      Truthfully, his Tweet with the periods after every word, I found to be very condescending. Fortunately, the responding Tweets, kicked his sorry condescending ass to the curb.

      Also, please let me just say that after reading Don’s righteous rant, and the comments and ramblings here today…this is why I just love our community…exemplary and just insightful comments…I’ve been in and out…had to tutor and went for coffee this morning with my son, that turned into lunch…just a relaxing and wondering, wonderful day:) Sometimes, our TOD family just really hits it out of the park for me. Today was one of those days. Love you all.

      • August 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm

        “…. his Tweet with the periods after every word, I found to be very condescending”

        Oh DesertFlower, it was exactly that, and he corrected someone’s spelling in another tweet – that’s his level.

        So when I saw Only4RM’s replies (and other people’s too), I nearly hugged my laptop.

        So, so, so much smart out there, endlessly smarter and more honest than Dyson could ever hope to be.

        • 28 desertflower
          August 23, 2014 at 8:21 pm

          Could not agree more, Chips. He is nothing more than a blatant opportunist that is using the goodness and hard work of an AA President to promote himself. Damn shame….but, like all the others that talk more than they do the hard work of any action that may help the greater good…he’s been exposed as the selfish, self serving person that he is.

      • August 23, 2014 at 8:24 pm

        “Also, please let me just say that after reading Don’s righteous rant, and the comments and ramblings here today…this is why I just love our community…exemplary and just insightful comments …”

        Couldn’t agree with you more, df!!

        As to Dyson, his bubble has been depleted of every oxygen molecule by folk who know the difference between gratuitous chatter and effective legal efforts to seek justice.

    • August 23, 2014 at 9:29 pm

      Excellent tweet, Bobfr! Someone needs to write a book about the myth of the “bully pulpit.” Whenever President Obama’s critics can’t offer reasonable explanations for their “LAME” criticism of him, they immediately invoke the myth of the “bully pulpit”: a purely subjective invention of some historians/journalists that cannot be objectively evaluated.

      • August 23, 2014 at 9:38 pm

        “… they immediately invoke the myth of the “bully pulpit”: a purely subjective invention of some historians/journalists that cannot be objectively evaluated.”

        Precisely, nath. Do hope that someone will write that book. In the meantime, it’s for all of us to counter the nonsense as cogently as possible, in real time, using tools like Twitter.

        Thank you.

  8. August 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    “The fact remains that the U.S. far outspends its peer nations when it comes to healthcare costs per capita. This year the United States will spend almost 18 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP) on healthcare—six percentage points more than the Netherlands, the next highest spender. Because the U.S. GDP in 2014 will be approximately 17 trillion dollars, those six percentage points over the Netherlands amount to one trillion dollars in additional spending. The burden to the average household through lost wages, insurance premiums, taxes, out-of-pocket care, and other costs will be more than $8,000. Why does the United States spend so much more? The biggest reason is that U.S. healthcare delivers a more expensive mix of services. For example, a much larger proportion of physician visits in the U.S. are to specialists who get higher fees and usually order more high-tech diagnostic and therapeutic procedures than primary care physicians.

    Compared with the average OECD country, the U.S. delivers (population adjusted) almost three times as many mammograms, two-and-a-half times the number of MRI scans, and 31 percent more C-sections. Also, the U.S. has more stand-by equipment, for example, 1.66 MRI machines per 6,000 annual scans vs. 1.06 machines. The extra machines provide easier access for Americans, but add to cost. Similarly, occupancy rates in U.S. acute care hospitals are much lower than in OECD countries, reducing the likelihood of delays in admissions, but building that extra capacity adds to cost. Aggressive treatment of very sick elderly also makes the mix expensive. In the U.S. many elderly patients are treated in intensive care units (ICUs), but in other countries they would receive only palliative care. More amenities such as privacy and space in hospitals and more attractive clinics also add to U.S. costs……continued

  9. 36 vcprezofan2
    August 23, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Brought over from end of last post – :oops: I was in my own world

    You guys should follow the link – the artist has a really touching print which seems intended to be her contribution towards the Mike Brown Jr. Memorial Fund

    “St. Louis artist Mary Engelbreit‘s work typically epitomizes “non-controversial” art: She makes comforting cartoon illustrations of apple-cheeked children, often accompanied by cheerful slogans about friendship and family.
    ……………………………. (snip) …………………………….

    Engelbreit responded to critics, standing by the print as a statement on the “ugly, hard truth of racial profiling,” adding:

    I also thought about disabling the comments today and just let those that wanted to buy the print do so. But then I thought, Well, I posted it—I should see this through to the bitter end. However, today, if anyone uses words like “thug” or “animal” or any other derogatory words to describe their fellow human beings, their comment will be deleted. That’s not free speech, that’s hate speech, and you can go pedal your hatred and bigotry on someone else’s Facebook page.

    We can only hope that all the people who said that they were going to unfollow me have done so, and maybe today we can have a more civilized stream of comments.

    http://news.artnet.com/in-brief/beloved-illustrator-blasted-by-fans-over-ferguson-artwork-83486

    • August 23, 2014 at 8:09 pm

      “I was in my own world”

    • 39 desertflower
      August 23, 2014 at 8:14 pm

      Yes…you’ve all seen her work.

      Hope that many people buy her poster and support the Brown family in this needful time. Her response to the hateful comments was priceless.

      • 40 vcprezofan2
        August 23, 2014 at 8:17 pm

        Priceless, and powerful, response indeed! Why should the haters always cause decent people to ‘run’?

      • August 24, 2014 at 12:41 pm

        I am so happy to see Mary Englebreit’s views. I have loved her cheerful artwork for years and used her calendars in my elementary classrooms. I must confess I wondered if she was closer to Hobby Lobby’s viewpoints.

    • 42 nospin
      August 23, 2014 at 8:18 pm

      hey VC, I posted your link below. Didn’t realize you already brought this over. Sorry for the duplicate post of your tweet.

      • 43 vcprezofan2
        August 23, 2014 at 8:27 pm

        Thank you dear NoSpin. Appreciate you bringing it over – ‘the more, the merrier’. [Okay, that doesn't really work here, but that the only one of my granny's sayings that popped up. ;) ]

        Did you see the poster? Very effective, I thought.

    • August 23, 2014 at 8:28 pm

      Thank you VC for bringing this to our attention. Mary Engelbreit’s message is very powerful and true …

      • 47 vcprezofan2
        August 23, 2014 at 8:40 pm

        It is, Bfr! [YVW]

      • 48 MadameSoph
        August 23, 2014 at 8:51 pm

        I loved this in her response:

        “We can only hope that all the people who said that they were going to unfollow me have done so, and maybe today we can have a more civilized stream of comments.”

        • 50 vcprezofan2
          August 23, 2014 at 9:16 pm

          Yea, I was very pleased with her response; I particularly liked her very calm, yet very clear and determined stance. So often we cave to the loud and vicious hatred of the pushy minority (I have to believe they are a minority) simply because they are loud and vicious, and we end up walking away, leaving the field to them. This time Engelbreit politely said ‘Get lost, this is my space!’ :)

      • 53 CEB
        August 23, 2014 at 11:06 pm

        Her usual art has a cheerful, what a wonderful white world look. Surprised and pleased that she created this and is standing up for what is right and just, but so sad that the first picture that I have seen of hers that reflects an A A subject must be of such an awful reality.

    • 54 jacquelineoboomer
      August 23, 2014 at 10:05 pm

      I remember Mary Engelbreit’s work from when my oldest three granddaughters were little – they loved her images. Her new poster is perfect.

      • 55 vcprezofan2
        August 23, 2014 at 10:15 pm

        ‘oldest three grand-ds’ _ How many grand-ds do you have? ;)

        • 56 jacquelineoboomer
          August 23, 2014 at 10:23 pm

          Five! And two great grandsons.

          How lucky am I? (I didn’t know any of my great grandparents, so this is a big responsibility … and joy.)

          • 57 vcprezofan2
            August 23, 2014 at 10:28 pm

            :shock: In my mental space for you I had two grand-ds and one g-grand-s! I am waaay off! :)

            Congrats, you experienced granny! Lots of blessings!

            • 58 jacquelineoboomer
              August 23, 2014 at 10:29 pm

              Thanks, honey bunch! My second g-grand-s is less than a year old and only says the usual few words, but when he starts up, I’ll keep ya posted – Ha!

    • August 23, 2014 at 10:06 pm

      Thanks VC, for sharing this. Very powerful.

      • 63 vcprezofan2
        August 23, 2014 at 10:16 pm

        Nathk! A very ‘Good Night’ to you! Of course, your arrival means I should be on my way to bed. :grin:

        • August 24, 2014 at 1:10 am

          I understand VC. I hope you have a good and restful sleep. Try as I may, I’ve never been able to come here on time to converse with good people. Actually my situation is getting worse because I now have to share my computer with my daughter who is writing her thesis. I still make sure that I read all the posts and comments, but I realize it’s futile to try to converse with people who are already in bed and in deep sleep.

          • 65 vcprezofan2
            August 24, 2014 at 9:52 am

            {{Nathk}} – Since I don’t do deep sleep, one of these nights I’ll look in on one of my sleep breaks and hope that you are around, so I can say a personal ‘hi’ and enjoy a mini-conversation live. Probably over the upcoming weekend, when I’ll be on the road anyway and likely having difficulty snoozing in a hotel bed. We’ll see!

  10. August 23, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    • 67 99ts
      August 23, 2014 at 8:56 pm

      His twitter is so different to what he says on air – and he thinks people have no right to call him out

  11. August 23, 2014 at 8:08 pm

  12. 69 nospin
    August 23, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    Bringing over from previous thread from VC

  13. August 23, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    So, update on LL’s sleep patterns:

    Went to my second sleep study last night. This time slept with the CPAP.

    Man, that’s some uncomfortable shit. I know I was asleep, because I dreamt, but I could also feel myself breathing through that thing. It’ll take a while to get used to.

    • 71 desertflower
      August 23, 2014 at 8:23 pm

      So…the nose strips don’t work? That machine is quite the monstrosity…

    • August 23, 2014 at 8:34 pm

      LL, I know I’ve told you before that it took my husband a couple months to get completely comfortable with the CPAP. The way he did it was to “work up” with the amount of time he used it each night. That worked for him–and me too. I had to get used to the noise though I would guess the ones now are quieter than what he began with. Good luck!!!

      • August 23, 2014 at 8:36 pm

        At least the CPAP I used last night wasn’t noisy. Quite quiet. But still, having something in my nostrils was quite disconcerting.

        • 76 desertflower
          August 23, 2014 at 8:49 pm

          http://www.orthoapnea.com/doctors/dam/intraoral-appliances.php How about an oral appliance IN your mouth, like a retainer?

        • 77 vcprezofan2
          August 23, 2014 at 8:56 pm

          The thought alone was enough to turn me off, Lib_L, although it’s nice to hear that there are quiet ones. The doctor who went over my results (supposedly) left it open for me to return to talk seriously if I decide to go that route, but I could just see me up all night fiddling around with this thing. Also, he made it clear that the patient would have to stand the cost, and knowing myself, I could see me buying it, then not using it. Instead, I’m telling myself I now *know* why I keep waking up – before I just knew that I woke up but had no explanation. :grin:

  14. August 23, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    • August 23, 2014 at 8:36 pm

      As mentioned earlier today, Bibi will never stop Hamas because his only approach has been to kill more Palestinians and build more illegal, unjust settlements in the West Bank, while strangling any form of sustainable Palestinian economy in Gaza.

      Hamas is not going to surrender and the Israeli people will soon, in an overwhelming majority, join these protestors and demand an end to Israel’s unjust treatment of Palestinians and insist on establishing a stable, two state solution before it becomes demographically impossible for Israel to be anything other than a pariah, apartheid state.

  15. August 23, 2014 at 8:30 pm

  16. 82 nospin
    August 23, 2014 at 8:33 pm

  17. August 23, 2014 at 8:37 pm

  18. 84 africa
    August 23, 2014 at 8:40 pm

  19. 85 MadameSoph
    August 23, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Just got home and that first tweet is WHY I LOVE THIS PRESIDENT!

    He always quietly gets it done, proving Don’s point from the last thread.

    Nerdy and Don thank you, thank you, thank you!
    Nerdy for your AWESOME schooling of Dyson on twitter,
    And Don for that beautiful post.
    I got home too late to thank you guys in real-time. I’m going to leave a comment on the last post for Don, but in case he misses it I want to leave my praise here also.

  20. 87 COS
    August 23, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Can’t believe that I just saw this lengthy report on Rand Paul in Guatemala on NBC Nightly news performing eye surgeries, but he votes against everything to help the poor here in the U.S. The report will continue on Meet The Press tomorrow. They said that he is making a documentary.

  21. 92 vcprezofan2
    August 23, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    The South Carolina state trooper who arrested NFL defensive lineman Sam Montgomery at a traffic stop last June has been fired, state officials said Friday.

    The Department of Public Safety said in a news release that Lance Cpl. R.S. Salter was terminated for violating agency policies including conduct unbecoming a state employee.

    Salter stopped Montgomery in June when the Cincinnati Bengals defensive lineman was returning to his home in Greenwood.

    Montgomery was arrested and spent a night in jail after Salter clocked him going 89 mph in a 55 mph zone.

    But the trooper’s dashboard camera obtained soon after by The Associated Press also captured the officer threatening to use a Taser because the 6-foot-3, 262-pound lineman was struggling to understand his commands.

    ‘The next thing you’re going to get is the Taser,’ Salter was heard to say on the tape.

    ‘Whoa,’ Montgomery responded, ‘I’m not trying to cause problems.’

    ………………………………………//

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732414/State-trooper-threatened-Taser-polite-Bengals-lineman-traffic-stop-fired-conduct-unbecoming-state-employee.html

    • 93 MadameSoph
      August 23, 2014 at 9:10 pm

      VC, this is good news.

      Did you catch the YouTube I posted of PBO swatting the fly on this morning’s President Obama is doing his job thread? Your comment on my “Fly on the wall” comment was so cute and made me remember that moment. It actually made me smile when I saw the video because that is how I feel like he deals with ignorant self-serving critics like Dyson ;-)

  22. 96 africa
    August 23, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    I love, love April’s piece. It makes Dyson look so small. He ought to bury his head someplace and keep it there for a while. Boy the comments on this article are delicious.

  23. 97 africa
    August 23, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    • August 23, 2014 at 9:34 pm

      No. Where did you hear/see?

      • 99 carolyn
        August 23, 2014 at 11:35 pm

        The story was on ABC evening news. Awful! Supposedly they had seen a gun pointing out of the woman’s car and pulled her over. She had no idea what they were talking about….her 6 year old got out of the car crying, with his hands up, begging not to go to jail. By that time the cops knew they were wrong, so tried to be all nicey-nice to the boy…….she was interviewed and said she can’t forget this and go on…they just want her to do that, but she can’t, it was too awful.

        Wow, the covers of many police actions are sure being ripped off! The corrupt, racist, mean underbelly of many forces is sure being exposed! This happened in Forney, TX, just about 30 miles east of where my son and family live.

  24. August 23, 2014 at 9:08 pm

  25. 101 africa
    August 23, 2014 at 9:10 pm

  26. August 23, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Happy Independence Day, Ukraine!!

  27. 103 hopefruit2
    August 23, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    I’m afraid that Chris has gone into another one of his psychotic episodes.. these delusions are coming fast and hard!

  28. August 23, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Bottom line …

    • 107 nospin
      August 23, 2014 at 9:37 pm

      “The letter also blames the United States of aiding Israel in its Gaza operation, and the West in general of protecting Israel from condemnation.

      “Genocide begins with the silence of the world,” the letter reads.

      The letter ends with a call to bring the blockade of Gaza to an immediate end, and for a full boycott of Israel.”

      US Tax payer dollars should not fund Bibi’s wars. This letter should be sent to each member of Congress as many times as necessary until they hear it loud and clear.

  29. 109 amk for obama
    August 23, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    excellent pushback threads, ut.

  30. 111 criquet
    August 23, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    • 112 anniebella
      August 23, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      But was Giuliani’s daughter gun down like a animal?

    • 113 desertflower
      August 23, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      Old story, but point is absolutely taken, On another note..the NY Post ought to hire some proofreaders…the spelling errors in this are atrocious! Maybe that’s why it’s the rag that it is…

  31. 114 vcprezofan2
    August 23, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    Remember that the Parks are celebrating a birthday on Monday and entrance will be free.

  32. August 23, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Attention TODbots: Await a “squee” post from Chips.

  33. August 23, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    IMPORTANT READ!

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Institutional racism in policing is not a new development, but militarization is. During the 1980s and 90s, the government took advantage of the public fear of drugs to gain support for ramped up military-grade policing programs. Apart from 1033, federal support also came in a variety of DOJ and DHS grants that bolstered state and local law enforcement agencies, which used them to purchase lethal weapons, body armor, and vehicles built to withstand roadside bombs in war zones. Joint operations between police departments and the federal agencies like the FBI became common.

    But the changes caused by militarization were not equal among all communities. Racial disparities were rampant. Black communities were disproportionately targeted for policing and arrests — and the increasingly militarized equipment and conduct that went with it — despite evidence pointing to higher levels of drug crimes among whites
    .

  34. August 30, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Thank you for this post….Our President does so much without beating his chest!
    What has Dyson done lately for the black community? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!


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