And the people who occupy the Fed building in Oregon are showing why gun control is a great idea. If only sane people had guns, that mess wouldnāt be able to get a water gun permit.
Sorry everybody about that messed up paragraph in the last thread. Mozilla Firefox has become nearly impossible to use anymore, so Iām going with a portable, few extensions Chrome now so that I donāt double post waiting for a cut and paste to show up. Chips, please delete or edit that post.
More than three quarters of Republicans, 77 percent, said they now get angry at least once a day, compared with 67 percent of Democrats.
White Americans are also angrier than African Americans and Latinos, pollsters found.
Fifty four percent of whites said they find themselves feeling angrier more often about current events. Thirty three percent of African Americans said the same thing, as did 43 percent of Latinos.
Pollster said there is a strong correlation between a high degree of anger and āthe sense that the U.S. is no longer the most powerful country in the world; that the American dream is dead; that the gap between the rich and poor is widening; and that oneās life didnāt turn out as well as one had imagined when they were younger.ā
Were people asked these questions when any other president was in office? A republican pollster said repulicans would be happy if Bill Clinton were president right now, because he knew how to govern. So this is what itās all about — president Obama. The GOP trying to dismiss everything accomplished by this president by playing the angry card. And Bernie Sanders playing into it to overcome the lack of minority support. These people are the same angry people who supported McCain and Palin. What were they angry about then, BHO becoming president. The MSM loves to jump on any sick story line without analysis of the root cause.
The U.S. media is both useless and dishonest. They are useless because they all about sensationalism and peddling fear. They are dishonest because they are the ones who relentlessly push negative news and manufactured GOP lies about President Obama. Without any hint of shame, they then turn around and poll people after theyāve fed them lies and constant negativity. What is really remarkable is that a great many Americans still love and respect President Obama.
Happy New Year, TODable TODbots ;)
I last posted on Thursday, Dec 31st, 2015.
I tried to lurk and boy……TOD Community was on Fire!
New Year is what I look forward to. A New Year without a mistake, fault or regrets.
Thank you, Chips, NW, Amk, LL, LP, Azizi, our awesome and powerful Twitter Brigades, brilliant contributors, Lurkers, Friends and Foe alike.
Happy New Year!
So POTUS has a Town Hall on CNN on 1-7-16 at 7:00 pm EDT? Okay, then.
Loved the Word Crowd, Amk.
33, 674, 548, Hits…….marching toward another milestone: 34M, Hits >-I>-I
President Obama said this year he will be leaving it all on the road. I can hardly wait.
“PBO is beginning as he means to go on,” as a British saying goes.
This week—-gun regulation. Appearance on Anderson Cooper for a Town Hall! An hour! In Prime Time!
Next week I predict the 17 detainees will be released from Guantanamo reducing the number still incarcerated there to 90. The President set “under 100” as the target for an announcement of his plan.
This week on CNN prime time.
Next week on all channels prime time.
President Obama in his own words. MSM weeps.
But there will be competition to host POTUS. So I wonāt be surprised to see a prime time appearance on lots of other channels in the coming months. This is going to be delicious.
Now for the idiots taking over the Federal Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. I agree with everybody who says let them starve and freeze-if they want to die, let it be from hunger and cold (itās 13 degrees with wind chill) as they turn off the power supply and shut off the water. Hopefully as they start to feel frostbite and thirst, they may rethink this needless stand. Unfortunately, I donāt think they have thought this through enough. In a shootout with the Feds, there is only one winner-and itās not them. And the Feds can certainly wait them out-theyāll be well supplied, rotate watchers and perimiter standers if they decide thatās the better choice. Nothing like that for the domestic terrorists. I doubt if many people will be coming to join them in 13 degree weather, with the prospect of armed Federal Guards blocking off the one road leading to the complex.
Their resentment of the BLM and the Federal Govt is steadily backfiring on them. The Federal Monuments and Wildlife Refuges create jobs that are steady and canāt be outsourced, unlike increasingly the mining and oil jobs. Tourism is going to be there always, along with the natural beauty and the decent land values that exist becaue thereās no threat of developers.
The Bundys are also stupid in another way. Itās the Federal ownership and Federal rights that enables them to keep ranching now. Left to the states that can be pressured into making deals, any land would be subject to bidders for anything-and those bidders may not care about things like water management or soil health-or the Bundy claims.
I say the government should go in right now and end this, Seal Team Six should be on their way to Oregon as we speak. These fuckers want to take government property, well then they should suffer the consequences.
i think that this is what they want…going out in a blaze of glory…..i like the notions of creating conditions in which they have to surrender…similar of the strategy that the President uses for ISIS…creating conditions that would lead to their implosion…
Yep, theyāre a dozen (or so) caged animals, wanting to recreate another #RubyRidge, #Waco — RWNJās version of suicide bombers, but they entrench themselves on federal property instead of imposing themselves on civilians.
"I didn't come here to shoot I came here to die."#bundymilitia, (will ID only as "Capt. Moroni") pic.twitter.com/sh83SfWTll
Give them ZERO access to any form of communication except waving a white flag when they want to surrender.
And, until they surrender, no food, water or electricity and if they step outside with anything other than a white flag, soak them with a fire hose.
But, under NO circumstance, use force against them unless they come out shooting. And, if they do that, launch a few stun grenades and have skilled snipers shootāum in the groin with rubber bullets, i.e., NO MARTYRS and nothing that remotely looks like that Waco Branch Davidian fiasco.
Agree with everyone here that there should be no martyrs from the desperate situation.
Armed occupation continues at Oregon federal wildlife refuge https://t.co/hOG3vQE21w pic.twitter.com/qOqj2ZSQou
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) January 3, 2025
From the article:
“‘A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution,ā said Sheriff Ward said in his statement Saturday night.”
Law enforcement is on the same page as TODville:
“Law enforcement agencies appeared to be taking a low-key approach Sunday toward a group of armed men who have seized control of a federal wildlife refuge headquarters in southern Oregon, protesting the federal prosecution of two ranchers.”
And hereās the GOP/Koch connection — the public must make it known that we donāt want our cherished public venues sold to those who will devastate the landscape for the sake of money in their own pockets.
“The movement has picked up steam in recent years, led by Utah legislator Ken Ivory, who helms a national organization called the American Lands Council that tries to convince county and state governments to pursue the ownership of federal lands. A watchdog group has accused him of fraud in three states for his use of taxpayer dollars.”
Sounds like Obama is going to hit the ground running to defend his accomplishments. He might as well. No work is going to be done by Congress this year-everybody is waiting to see who the next President is going to be. (Go HIllary!)
BTW, a question to be asked now that the end is near: What happens to this blog after 1/20/2017? Obviously after the first burst of stuff, there wonāt be a lot of daily news anymore. So then what? The Obama Journal (a quarterly)?
As ISIL/Daesh are ‘Containedā and in the Home front, as Domestic Terror…….are not 24/7 Newsy Driven Drum-beat, Rest assured, Pres Obama will try his level best to drive this Political Process. We The People need that for HRC or Bernie are incapable……US News Media will not let them. Trump is the Mistress for the News Media……they love the thrill and the hide and seek element of it…..Pretending that bigotry and racism are not what Trump is all about. The Wife is the Voting and the Family is a Dem winning in Nov and Pres Obama would have secured the USA, once more.
Iāve enjoyed every episode. My favorite one is the one with the lady thatās driving cross country and she ends up in a minor accident and she doesnāt know that sheās dead.
:):) “The Hitchhiker” - I like that one as well! Right now my DVR is loaded with ~ 40 episodes that I will be watching over the next two weeks. So many favorites…so little time…
I WAS WATCHING FEAR THE WALKING DEAD LAST NIGHT BUT FINALLY FELL ASLEEP FOR CHURCH WAKE UP CALL THIS MORNING. TALKED TO SECURITY AT MY NEW CHURCH AND OF COURSE THEY BELIEVE THE TRASH THAT PBO WANTS THEIR GUNS…WHAT A CLUSTER MUCK!
Iām just catching up on the Oregon situation, but it seems like the judge who imposed the initial sentences for the Hammond father and son, made a grave mistake that is coming back to haunt the Federal government…
Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires. He said he feels his upcoming prison term is a life sentence.
“Iām not very happy about that. Just donāt know what to say,” Hammond said. “It just seems like a little overreach for having burned 127 acres.”
The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.
The decision has generated controversy in a remote part of the state.
In particular, the Hammondsā new sentences touched a nerve with far right groups who repudiate federal authority.
āIām not very happy about that. Just donāt know what to say,ā Hammond said. āIt just seems like a little overreach for having burned 127 acres.ā
Nephew please! you burned 127 acres of government land and think they should just forget about it and tell you not to do it again?
Don, the article makes for good reading, wouldnāt you agree?
The Hammonds, start a fire on Federal land.
The Hammonds are sentenced for their crime.
A federal judge later decides the sentences were too lenient, so they are given longer sentences.
The Hammonds hold a protest rally.
This incited the Bundy gang
And here we are folks…
Their “little fire” endangered the lives of some hunters & also some forest firefighters who were taking a short rest in the area. Also, I read that they set the fire to cover illegal hunting on Federal land. The Hammonds can take several seats & stop whining! Just saying…
Exactly, Aquagranny! As always, you speak TRUTH! These people should be held accountable for starting the fires to cover up their “illegal hunting on federal land.” They indeed “endangered the lives of some hunters and…some …firefighters….” I enthusiastically applaud the Federal Judge who gave them appropriate sentences to fit their heinous crime. I have zero sympathy with the Hammonds! More importantly, the media (as well as many of us here) must stop legitimizing these white supremacists terrorists by calling them “Militias.”
A North Carolina Powerball winnerās boyfriend posted a $12 million bond Friday in his fourth time getting bailed out since her jackpot, according to reports.
Lamar (Hot Sauce) McDow, 31, is accused of arranging a street race Saturday, and police said he was arrested Tuesday for violating the terms of his pre-trial release on earlier charges, WECT-TV reported.
McDowās live-in girlfriend, Shallote resident Marie Holmes, collected an $88 million lump sum payment after taxes for winning a $188 million jackpot in February. Her beau walked free on a $3 million bond weeks later and got out of jail on a $6 million bond in August.
Oh, his name is “Hot Sauce,” well then he must be a keeper. I guess the city is working for the state in that they keep arresting this asshole and he keeps posting bail thereby assuring the state that they will get their powerball money back.
She received a lump sum of $88million dollars and the first thing she spends money on is his bail. If I were her Iād pay him just to go away, but then again she might enjoy everything about “Hot Sauce.”
Not to keep talking about this guy but “bae” won $88 million dollars and this fucking guy is out setting up illegal drag races. And a year from now weāre going to read about this guy getting killed in some stupid ass way. Like pulling off the side of the road on the highway in the middle of the night to take a leak and getting hit by some drunk guy dressed as a clown.
Someone needs to take those kids away from her and make her pay for their care until they become adults. One of her children has a disability and could use money for his care way into the future. Sheās pissing off her childrenās chance for a better life and future. Unfortunately people like her will only have regret after the money is gone and her ‘boyfriendā finds the next idiot with money.
You are absolutely right, Prettyfoot! In about.six months Malia will graduate from high school. On July 4th Malia will turn eighteen! I just canāt get over the fact that she was ten years when her father took the Oath to be President of the United States. I guess I should know better because my grand niece, the tinny baby I held in my arms when she was born, is also graduating high school in June.
The day they walk out of that White House for good will be a sad day for me. I know some may say what Iām saying make no sense, but this family is like my family. I wonder if the First Ladyās Mom spent Christmas with Craig and his family.
The Hammond/Bundy situation is one of those times that PBO told Jerry Seinfeld called for a few cuss words. I can imagine him saying a few of them when he returns to business as usual later today :D
Hope you enjoyed your walk among the floats. I always loved seeing them up close. I worked on them once, I really loved it but once was enough. It is to much intense detail work for me. But so beautiful to see in the end.
It is so worth doing at least once. I was in college and canāt remember how how several of us did it. We had so much fun but it is cold hard work. A real sense of accomplishment when it is done. Canāt wait to see the pictures.
Good point, global. These people live in their own world where there are no rules but their own. Theyāre soon going to find what happens in the real world and itās going to be a whole lot of hurt for them.
Heavy sigh. I had a flood in my front yard today…pipe broke and itās a mess. I have a plumber coming sometime this afternoon to fix it…but in the meantime, I have no water coming to my house…..and, of course, itās Sunday…because all my shit breaks on Sunday or a holiday! Itās Murphy again:)
I hope everything is okay, desertflower, been there done that. I hope its not a septic pipe, those things are messy and expensive. Iāll keep a good thought for you.
I will never forget the Christmas when that happened to us. Christmas was on a Sunday so Monday was an official holiday and we have hot water heat the pipes froze so we had no heat. We couldnāt get anyone out until Tuesday. Was a very cold Christmas with no water or heat. Hope you get someone out soon.
Please donāt open the tweet and read the comments; offensive photo included in the comments, not my intent to publish here, but Rhouhaniās tweet is worthwhile.
In no way is this justifiable & foremost disrespects #Iran. All Iranian officials are fully committed to confront these illegal acts 2/4
— Hassan Rouhani (@HassanRouhani) January 3, 2025
#Iran police spox: 50 people have been arrested during attack against #SaudiArabia embassy in #Tehran & been delivered to judiciary system.
=> if you are arrested and convicted for a crime (oh, let me say, the crime of breaking into and occupying federal property), then donāt you automatically loose the right to own and buy an gun?
every day, I am reminded of why I PBO is a better person than I will ever be => these scumbags want notoriety and if possible martyrdom and he is not giving it to them;
we all know who has the upper hand if push came to shove and the numbers needed to change the calculus are not too high
The fires were set on land managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. The Hammonds leased grazing rights for the property from the BLM.
According to prosecutors the 2001 fire was located in the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. The U.s. Attorneyās Office said:
Witnesses at trial, including a relative of the Hammonds, testified the arson occurred shortly after Steven Hammond and his hunting party illegally slaughtered several deer on BLM property. Jurors were told that Steven Hammond handed out āStrike Anywhereā matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to ālight up the whole country on fire.ā One witness testified that he barely escaped the eight to ten foot high flames caused by the arson. The fire consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations. After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. Dwight and Steven Hammond told one of their relatives to keep his mouth shut and that nobody needed to know about the fire.
Steven Hammond was convicted in the 2006 arson, which occurred in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge:
Thereās more at the link. They all need to be in prison.
“After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands.” Oh ok, no problem, sometimes when you set stuff on fire science has a way of taking over. Well no harm no foul.
Just because I burn down my house DOES NOT make it right or LAWFUL, ask me that if my house I am burning is next to yours and your house ‘just happensā to catch on fire too. Not my fault you say? Itās my neighborās fault he didnāt have fire insurance……OK.
Iran has arrested dozens for the arson of the Saudi Embassy.
If the situation hasnāt calmed down by the end of this month, when Syrian peace talks begin, look for another item on John Kerryās very full plate. :(
I donāt know the order in which these two events occurred =>
(a) the arrest of the Iranian people involved in the Saudi Embassy burning and;
(b) the decree that all Iranian diplomats leave SA;
I got the impression that the arrest were announced a little earlier so that is why I am concerned that this appears not be sufficient and that diplomats are asked to leave SA;
at the very least, I would have expected the Iranian Ambassador to SA to be summoned to discuss the course of farther action;
I am afraid, your predictions for SoS Kerry may be in the future
Yes, my sense of the timing of announcements is the same as yours.
MSM tweets on this topic are freaking out. I guess my ignorance is on display, because I donāt see why this is so alarming, since Saudi and Iran will always be at odds at one another.
and with all of this…Saudis seek to scuttle the beginnings of the UN political agreement in Syria…if Assad is dethroned …and there is an end to the civil war in Syria….Isis loses…but you know who else loses …the Saudis…
are people determined to fight to the last person?
a few hours ago, the headlines were that Afghanistan specials and Indian protective services were engaged in a gun battle with militants that had attacked the Indian diplomatic facility (Consulate?) in Mazar al Sharif;
last I read sporadic gun shots were still being exchanged
See you later
Good West coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family š
Good Sunday Morning, Chipsticks…TOD Family!
Congrats on first, GGail! :-)
Everyone enjoy your day.
GM swbluega, thanks, but I think Iām really Furst :-) Chips claims the First spot :-)
:-D I need to learn how to apply “First” vs “Furst”. :-)
And the people who occupy the Fed building in Oregon are showing why gun control is a great idea. If only sane people had guns, that mess wouldnāt be able to get a water gun permit.
Sorry everybody about that messed up paragraph in the last thread. Mozilla Firefox has become nearly impossible to use anymore, so Iām going with a portable, few extensions Chrome now so that I donāt double post waiting for a cut and paste to show up. Chips, please delete or edit that post.
brought from previous thread
Theyāve been angry since January 20, 2025
……………
Poll: Republicans angrier than Democrats
January 03, 2016, 09:00 am
More than three quarters of Republicans, 77 percent, said they now get angry at least once a day, compared with 67 percent of Democrats.
White Americans are also angrier than African Americans and Latinos, pollsters found.
Fifty four percent of whites said they find themselves feeling angrier more often about current events. Thirty three percent of African Americans said the same thing, as did 43 percent of Latinos.
Pollster said there is a strong correlation between a high degree of anger and āthe sense that the U.S. is no longer the most powerful country in the world; that the American dream is dead; that the gap between the rich and poor is widening; and that oneās life didnāt turn out as well as one had imagined when they were younger.ā
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/264600-poll-republicans-angrier-than-democrats
Were people asked these questions when any other president was in office? A republican pollster said repulicans would be happy if Bill Clinton were president right now, because he knew how to govern. So this is what itās all about — president Obama. The GOP trying to dismiss everything accomplished by this president by playing the angry card. And Bernie Sanders playing into it to overcome the lack of minority support. These people are the same angry people who supported McCain and Palin. What were they angry about then, BHO becoming president. The MSM loves to jump on any sick story line without analysis of the root cause.
The U.S. media is both useless and dishonest. They are useless because they all about sensationalism and peddling fear. They are dishonest because they are the ones who relentlessly push negative news and manufactured GOP lies about President Obama. Without any hint of shame, they then turn around and poll people after theyāve fed them lies and constant negativity. What is really remarkable is that a great many Americans still love and respect President Obama.
The First Family arrives JBA . Click here āŗ āŗ http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml
Yay! Thanks!
Thanks JER - just watched - now Iām off to bed - theyāll have to land at the WH without me
GM JER and thanks! I clicked in the right place :-)
Also bringing over from the last thread — confirmation that PBO did relax over (at least one) cocktail while on vacation:
As usual I looked at the menu for Morimoto Waikiki, it didnāt have any pictures but Iām sure the food was fabulous.
Itās Sunday! :) … Tomorrow is back to work. :( OH, hey, today is *still* Sunday! :) :)
Good W/E coast morning VC. Iām going to squeeze as much enjoyment out of this Sunday as I can :-)
Thatās the spirit! :)
Of course, me being me, I have unfinished work I brought home and though it has to be done before tomorrow it hasnāt been started …yet. :D
Good E/coast afternoon & W/coast morning to you. :D
Youāre just being you. Youāll get around to doing it…sometime before you go to bed :-)
Egg.sack.leeExactly! When something *has* to be done, I do it.
Happy New Year, TODable TODbots ;)
I last posted on Thursday, Dec 31st, 2015.
I tried to lurk and boy……TOD Community was on Fire!
New Year is what I look forward to. A New Year without a mistake, fault or regrets.
Thank you, Chips, NW, Amk, LL, LP, Azizi, our awesome and powerful Twitter Brigades, brilliant contributors, Lurkers, Friends and Foe alike.
Happy New Year!
So POTUS has a Town Hall on CNN on 1-7-16 at 7:00 pm EDT? Okay, then.
Loved the Word Crowd, Amk.
33, 674, 548, Hits…….marching toward another milestone: 34M, Hits >-I >-I
gnite from down under - take care everyone
Hope the First Family enjoy their vacation.
Hopefully, with this Boom, PEACE and Stability will replace Doom and Gloom from Terror and War.
President Obama said this year he will be leaving it all on the road. I can hardly wait.
“PBO is beginning as he means to go on,” as a British saying goes.
This week—-gun regulation. Appearance on Anderson Cooper for a Town Hall! An hour! In Prime Time!
Next week I predict the 17 detainees will be released from Guantanamo reducing the number still incarcerated there to 90. The President set “under 100” as the target for an announcement of his plan.
Pretty hot start, donāt you agree?
Not to mention the State of The Union on Tuesday, January 12.
This week on CNN prime time.
Next week on all channels prime time.
President Obama in his own words. MSM weeps.
But there will be competition to host POTUS. So I wonāt be surprised to see a prime time appearance on lots of other channels in the coming months. This is going to be delicious.
Iām looking forward to all of this Vicki. Iāve fastened my seatbelt, and bracing for impact (in a good way). It will be a BLAST!!!! :)
Yes, it will, hopefruit
The new and revised paragraphs:
Now for the idiots taking over the Federal Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. I agree with everybody who says let them starve and freeze-if they want to die, let it be from hunger and cold (itās 13 degrees with wind chill) as they turn off the power supply and shut off the water. Hopefully as they start to feel frostbite and thirst, they may rethink this needless stand. Unfortunately, I donāt think they have thought this through enough. In a shootout with the Feds, there is only one winner-and itās not them. And the Feds can certainly wait them out-theyāll be well supplied, rotate watchers and perimiter standers if they decide thatās the better choice. Nothing like that for the domestic terrorists. I doubt if many people will be coming to join them in 13 degree weather, with the prospect of armed Federal Guards blocking off the one road leading to the complex.
Their resentment of the BLM and the Federal Govt is steadily backfiring on them. The Federal Monuments and Wildlife Refuges create jobs that are steady and canāt be outsourced, unlike increasingly the mining and oil jobs. Tourism is going to be there always, along with the natural beauty and the decent land values that exist becaue thereās no threat of developers.
The Bundys are also stupid in another way. Itās the Federal ownership and Federal rights that enables them to keep ranching now. Left to the states that can be pressured into making deals, any land would be subject to bidders for anything-and those bidders may not care about things like water management or soil health-or the Bundy claims.
I say the government should go in right now and end this, Seal Team Six should be on their way to Oregon as we speak. These fuckers want to take government property, well then they should suffer the consequences.
i think that this is what they want…going out in a blaze of glory…..i like the notions of creating conditions in which they have to surrender…similar of the strategy that the President uses for ISIS…creating conditions that would lead to their implosion…
Yep, theyāre a dozen (or so) caged animals, wanting to recreate another #RubyRidge, #Waco — RWNJās version of suicide bombers, but they entrench themselves on federal property instead of imposing themselves on civilians.
wow….Incredulous…i think these folks are in fantasyland…they believe all the crap that has been fed to them by RW Entertainment Complex
Capt. Moron more like… such a waste
Your scenario is better, but something inside of me might enjoy the blaze of glory thing a bit more.
no DON….the humiliation and defeat is complete…when you have to surrender….
Iām sorry, prettyfoot, but the board has spoken. Blaze of glory it is.
ohhh nooo…lets fire the board
Roger that pf58.
Give them ZERO access to any form of communication except waving a white flag when they want to surrender.
And, until they surrender, no food, water or electricity and if they step outside with anything other than a white flag, soak them with a fire hose.
But, under NO circumstance, use force against them unless they come out shooting. And, if they do that, launch a few stun grenades and have skilled snipers shootāum in the groin with rubber bullets, i.e., NO MARTYRS and nothing that remotely looks like that Waco Branch Davidian fiasco.
from your lips to they ears of whoever is in charge…by the way …do you know who is in charge of this situation
Agree with everyone here that there should be no martyrs from the desperate situation.
From the article:
“‘A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution,ā said Sheriff Ward said in his statement Saturday night.”
Law enforcement is on the same page as TODville:
“Law enforcement agencies appeared to be taking a low-key approach Sunday toward a group of armed men who have seized control of a federal wildlife refuge headquarters in southern Oregon, protesting the federal prosecution of two ranchers.”
And hereās the GOP/Koch connection — the public must make it known that we donāt want our cherished public venues sold to those who will devastate the landscape for the sake of money in their own pockets.
“The movement has picked up steam in recent years, led by Utah legislator Ken Ivory, who helms a national organization called the American Lands Council that tries to convince county and state governments to pursue the ownership of federal lands. A watchdog group has accused him of fraud in three states for his use of taxpayer dollars.”
thanks for the info…
Not Southern Oregon, Eastern Oregon!
I am with you,prettyfoot58! These white supremacists want attention! I say cut off their electricity and water and force them to surrender.
yup…i think this may be the plan…
Well stated, Carol. Thank you!
Sounds like Obama is going to hit the ground running to defend his accomplishments. He might as well. No work is going to be done by Congress this year-everybody is waiting to see who the next President is going to be. (Go HIllary!)
BTW, a question to be asked now that the end is near: What happens to this blog after 1/20/2017? Obviously after the first burst of stuff, there wonāt be a lot of daily news anymore. So then what? The Obama Journal (a quarterly)?
As ISIL/Daesh are ‘Containedā and in the Home front, as Domestic Terror…….are not 24/7 Newsy Driven Drum-beat, Rest assured, Pres Obama will try his level best to drive this Political Process. We The People need that for HRC or Bernie are incapable……US News Media will not let them. Trump is the Mistress for the News Media……they love the thrill and the hide and seek element of it…..Pretending that bigotry and racism are not what Trump is all about. The Wife is the Voting and the Family is a Dem winning in Nov and Pres Obama would have secured the USA, once more.
I agree with your statement …
REALLY…YOU WONāT FIND ME SITTING HERE FOR HILLARY…IāD RATHER WATCH PAINT DRY!
And….as the First Family returns home from their Hawaiian vacation, so has my Twilight Zone Marathon come to an end. :)
Iāve enjoyed every episode. My favorite one is the one with the lady thatās driving cross country and she ends up in a minor accident and she doesnāt know that sheās dead.
:) :) “The Hitchhiker” - I like that one as well! Right now my DVR is loaded with ~ 40 episodes that I will be watching over the next two weeks. So many favorites…so little time…
Yes, “The Hitchhiker,” Netflix has the complete series. I usually watch old episodes on my days off.
I WAS WATCHING FEAR THE WALKING DEAD LAST NIGHT BUT FINALLY FELL ASLEEP FOR CHURCH WAKE UP CALL THIS MORNING. TALKED TO SECURITY AT MY NEW CHURCH AND OF COURSE THEY BELIEVE THE TRASH THAT PBO WANTS THEIR GUNS…WHAT A CLUSTER MUCK!
Iām just catching up on the Oregon situation, but it seems like the judge who imposed the initial sentences for the Hammond father and son, made a grave mistake that is coming back to haunt the Federal government…
Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires. He said he feels his upcoming prison term is a life sentence.
“Iām not very happy about that. Just donāt know what to say,” Hammond said. “It just seems like a little overreach for having burned 127 acres.”
The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time - the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.
The decision has generated controversy in a remote part of the state.
In particular, the Hammondsā new sentences touched a nerve with far right groups who repudiate federal authority.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-ranchers-reject-cliven-bundy-family-occupation/
And it seems the Bundy idiotās have taken advantage of this sentencing.
āIām not very happy about that. Just donāt know what to say,ā Hammond said. āIt just seems like a little overreach for having burned 127 acres.ā
Nephew please! you burned 127 acres of government land and think they should just forget about it and tell you not to do it again?
Don, the article makes for good reading, wouldnāt you agree?
The Hammonds, start a fire on Federal land.
The Hammonds are sentenced for their crime.
A federal judge later decides the sentences were too lenient, so they are given longer sentences.
The Hammonds hold a protest rally.
This incited the Bundy gang
And here we are folks…
The Judge did not use the minimum sentencing requirements. Therefore, the sentence was ‘illegalā.
Their “little fire” endangered the lives of some hunters & also some forest firefighters who were taking a short rest in the area. Also, I read that they set the fire to cover illegal hunting on Federal land. The Hammonds can take several seats & stop whining! Just saying…
So much for Republican ‘personal responsibilityā is for THOSE OTHER PEOPLE, not for Republican/Affluenzed/Conservative/Christians.
Exactly, Aquagranny! As always, you speak TRUTH! These people should be held accountable for starting the fires to cover up their “illegal hunting on federal land.” They indeed “endangered the lives of some hunters and…some …firefighters….” I enthusiastically applaud the Federal Judge who gave them appropriate sentences to fit their heinous crime. I have zero sympathy with the Hammonds! More importantly, the media (as well as many of us here) must stop legitimizing these white supremacists terrorists by calling them “Militias.”
This falls under the category - Say Whaaat??!!!!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/n-powerball-winner-boyfriend-posts-12m-bond-article-1.2483060
A North Carolina Powerball winnerās boyfriend posted a $12 million bond Friday in his fourth time getting bailed out since her jackpot, according to reports.
Lamar (Hot Sauce) McDow, 31, is accused of arranging a street race Saturday, and police said he was arrested Tuesday for violating the terms of his pre-trial release on earlier charges, WECT-TV reported.
McDowās live-in girlfriend, Shallote resident Marie Holmes, collected an $88 million lump sum payment after taxes for winning a $188 million jackpot in February. Her beau walked free on a $3 million bond weeks later and got out of jail on a $6 million bond in August.
I read that story yesterday, I have no words.
Oh, his name is “Hot Sauce,” well then he must be a keeper. I guess the city is working for the state in that they keep arresting this asshole and he keeps posting bail thereby assuring the state that they will get their powerball money back.
My thought exactly! And she doesnāt deserve to wake up and smell the coffee
She received a lump sum of $88million dollars and the first thing she spends money on is his bail. If I were her Iād pay him just to go away, but then again she might enjoy everything about “Hot Sauce.”
Not to keep talking about this guy but “bae” won $88 million dollars and this fucking guy is out setting up illegal drag races. And a year from now weāre going to read about this guy getting killed in some stupid ass way. Like pulling off the side of the road on the highway in the middle of the night to take a leak and getting hit by some drunk guy dressed as a clown.
:) :) Somehow fitting…
Someone needs to take those kids away from her and make her pay for their care until they become adults. One of her children has a disability and could use money for his care way into the future. Sheās pissing off her childrenās chance for a better life and future. Unfortunately people like her will only have regret after the money is gone and her ‘boyfriendā finds the next idiot with money.
See ya later!
This is the last family vacation before Malia graduates from high school…i know this must have been bittersweet for the President…Malia too…
You are absolutely right, Prettyfoot! In about.six months Malia will graduate from high school. On July 4th Malia will turn eighteen! I just canāt get over the fact that she was ten years when her father took the Oath to be President of the United States. I guess I should know better because my grand niece, the tinny baby I held in my arms when she was born, is also graduating high school in June.
The day they walk out of that White House for good will be a sad day for me. I know some may say what Iām saying make no sense, but this family is like my family. I wonder if the First Ladyās Mom spent Christmas with Craig and his family.
I am starting to prepare myself. :(
Hay POTUS got some news shades. I like them.
The Hammond/Bundy situation is one of those times that PBO told Jerry Seinfeld called for a few cuss words. I can imagine him saying a few of them when he returns to business as usual later today :D
^^ THIS! :)
When I get back from Church today, jojo and I are going to see the Parade floats up close. :-) Bye
Hope you enjoyed your walk among the floats. I always loved seeing them up close. I worked on them once, I really loved it but once was enough. It is to much intense detail work for me. But so beautiful to see in the end.
Is it warmer today?
Hi marilyn, and no it us not warmer in SoCal. I want to work on a float just once too. I will post pictures.
It is so worth doing at least once. I was in college and canāt remember how how several of us did it. We had so much fun but it is cold hard work. A real sense of accomplishment when it is done. Canāt wait to see the pictures.
Good Afternoon TODVille!
Happy New Year 2016 with plenty of good health, recovery, peace, serenity and joy to all!
Waiting to watch the town hall with the greatest president of modern times.
what was all this about…proof that the press is just as off the chain…this reporter spreading fear and terror…smh
let the scumbags make all kinds of pronouncements in a public record - these will be used in the cases against them;
there is nothing worse than self-important criminal who doesnāt quite recognize the legal implications of his/her utterances ;
that is why there is the right to remain silent
Good point, global. These people live in their own world where there are no rules but their own. Theyāre soon going to find what happens in the real world and itās going to be a whole lot of hurt for them.
Refresher for those that think “both parties are the same” ….you KNOW you have friends/family that say that”_
http://pleasecutthecrap.com/the-republican-record/
Heavy sigh. I had a flood in my front yard today…pipe broke and itās a mess. I have a plumber coming sometime this afternoon to fix it…but in the meantime, I have no water coming to my house…..and, of course, itās Sunday…because all my shit breaks on Sunday or a holiday! Itās Murphy again:)
I hope everything is okay, desertflower, been there done that. I hope its not a septic pipe, those things are messy and expensive. Iāll keep a good thought for you.
All I know is, someone better fix this TODAY….Had to cancel my kiddos today, too…this day is not turning out like I wanted it to.
Thanks for keeping a good thought, Don..appreciate it:)
I will never forget the Christmas when that happened to us. Christmas was on a Sunday so Monday was an official holiday and we have hot water heat the pipes froze so we had no heat. We couldnāt get anyone out until Tuesday. Was a very cold Christmas with no water or heat. Hope you get someone out soon.
Well, mineās not that bad:) Just no water…and a lake in the front yard:)
Itās still frustrating to be without water. There is never a convenient time for this to happen. Good luck.
Excellent article…one to share
Please donāt open the tweet and read the comments; offensive photo included in the comments, not my intent to publish here, but Rhouhaniās tweet is worthwhile.
oh, the irony of ironies:
=> if you are arrested and convicted for a crime (oh, let me say, the crime of breaking into and occupying federal property), then donāt you automatically loose the right to own and buy an gun?
#UnintendedConsequencesOfExtremism
in
Surely thereās a good guy with a gun that wants to end this foolishness?
every day, I am reminded of why I PBO is a better person than I will ever be => these scumbags want notoriety and if possible martyrdom and he is not giving it to them;
we all know who has the upper hand if push came to shove and the numbers needed to change the calculus are not too high
They would not pass PBOās new background checks EO. So would their guns be confiscated?
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/dwight-steven-hammond-oregon-ranchers-protest-prison-arson-fire-land-charges-sentences-age-bundy-armed-militia-judge-photos-family/
The fires were set on land managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. The Hammonds leased grazing rights for the property from the BLM.
According to prosecutors the 2001 fire was located in the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. The U.s. Attorneyās Office said:
Witnesses at trial, including a relative of the Hammonds, testified the arson occurred shortly after Steven Hammond and his hunting party illegally slaughtered several deer on BLM property. Jurors were told that Steven Hammond handed out āStrike Anywhereā matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to ālight up the whole country on fire.ā One witness testified that he barely escaped the eight to ten foot high flames caused by the arson. The fire consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations. After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. Dwight and Steven Hammond told one of their relatives to keep his mouth shut and that nobody needed to know about the fire.
Steven Hammond was convicted in the 2006 arson, which occurred in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge:
Thereās more at the link. They all need to be in prison.
“After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands.” Oh ok, no problem, sometimes when you set stuff on fire science has a way of taking over. Well no harm no foul.
Just because I burn down my house DOES NOT make it right or LAWFUL, ask me that if my house I am burning is next to yours and your house ‘just happensā to catch on fire too. Not my fault you say? Itās my neighborās fault he didnāt have fire insurance……OK.
This is snark/just in case….:) :) :)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35217328
Saudi Arabia breaks off ties with Iran
this is escalating …. well, lets watch this space
GA GCL.
See upthread response to PF58.
Iran has arrested dozens for the arson of the Saudi Embassy.
If the situation hasnāt calmed down by the end of this month, when Syrian peace talks begin, look for another item on John Kerryās very full plate. :(
I donāt know the order in which these two events occurred =>
(a) the arrest of the Iranian people involved in the Saudi Embassy burning and;
(b) the decree that all Iranian diplomats leave SA;
I got the impression that the arrest were announced a little earlier so that is why I am concerned that this appears not be sufficient and that diplomats are asked to leave SA;
at the very least, I would have expected the Iranian Ambassador to SA to be summoned to discuss the course of farther action;
I am afraid, your predictions for SoS Kerry may be in the future
Yes, my sense of the timing of announcements is the same as yours.
MSM tweets on this topic are freaking out. I guess my ignorance is on display, because I donāt see why this is so alarming, since Saudi and Iran will always be at odds at one another.
and with all of this…Saudis seek to scuttle the beginnings of the UN political agreement in Syria…if Assad is dethroned …and there is an end to the civil war in Syria….Isis loses…but you know who else loses …the Saudis…
not good
some “leader” of countries canāt let the world breathe for a week without starting crap
Welcome home President Obama.
Right about now Iran is second guessing itself about shipping all of that uranium out of their country.
At least they waited until PBOās vacation was over……
According to this, scratch the Syria peace talks. Damn. :(
are people determined to fight to the last person?
a few hours ago, the headlines were that Afghanistan specials and Indian protective services were engaged in a gun battle with militants that had attacked the Indian diplomatic facility (Consulate?) in Mazar al Sharif;
last I read sporadic gun shots were still being exchanged
New post.
http://theobamadiary.com/2016/01/03/your-sunday-chuckle/