97 Responses to “Springfield: Where It Began”


  1. 10 amk for obama
    February 13, 2025 at 12:44 pm

    springfield - what an apt name to kick off a memorable campaign.

  2. 11 amk for obama
    February 13, 2025 at 12:53 pm

  3. 13 amk for obama
    February 13, 2025 at 12:54 pm

  4. 14 amk for obama
    February 13, 2025 at 12:55 pm

    LOL.

  5. 16 Judith Fardig
    February 13, 2025 at 1:09 pm

    Dear Chips - sincerely hoping that this is a breakthrough day for doggy detente!

  6. 18 amk for obama
    February 13, 2025 at 1:10 pm

    via bj, when two ireeshes meet.

    gunnite toddys.

  7. 20 jazziz2
    February 13, 2025 at 1:11 pm

    GA, TOD!

  8. 24 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    February 13, 2025 at 1:22 pm

    • 25 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
      February 13, 2025 at 1:22 pm

      • 26 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
        February 13, 2025 at 1:26 pm

        • 27 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
          February 13, 2025 at 1:27 pm

          • 28 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
            February 13, 2025 at 1:29 pm

  9. 31 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    February 13, 2025 at 1:24 pm

    • 32 prettyfoot58
      February 13, 2025 at 2:43 pm

      just thing of that amount of money would do for our infrastructure…for education….etc…Netanyahu…thumbed his nose at the President…disrespected him…is this what an ally does….it irritates me…

    • 33 nospin
      February 13, 2025 at 3:03 pm

      The proposed package, a follow-on to the $30 billion, 10-year memorandum of understanding signed in 2007, would grant Israel more leeway – including reprogramming authority – over a considerably larger amount of grant aid than that provided in the current agreement.

      There’s just one catch: Israel will have to forgo annual plus-ups to the president’s budget from Congress except for extreme emergency cases.

      “The downside, of course, is we’ll lose the ability for annual plus-ups on missile defense, anti-tunnel capabilities and other programs funded by the Pentagon in all but the most-extreme cases,�?a recently retired senior Israeli security official said.

      Israel is the largest recipient of US security assistance, taking in about 55 percent of the State Department’s Foreign Military Financing (FMF) budget worldwide. US aid accounts for about 25 percent of Israel’s overall defense budget.

      In recent years, congressional plus-ups for Israeli aid have exceeded the president’s budget request by much more than 100 percent. US sources calculated that since the start of the current 10-year agreement in fiscal year 2009, congressional plus-ups to Israel exceeded Pentagon budget requests by some $1.9 billion.

      Last December, for example, Congress passed an omnibus spending bill that appropriated $487 million for US-Israel missile defense programs — more than three times the amount contained in the Pentagon’s budget request.

      **************************

      This is a darn shame. American citizens can’t even get food stamps without republicans demanding they are tested for drugs and our roads and bridges aren’t being funded to get done. Why are American’s paying for this crap? Makes no sense.

      • 34 vcprezofan2
        February 13, 2025 at 3:37 pm

        Funding Israel in this huge manner makes little sense to me too, especially in the wake of Netanyahu’s dishonourable behaviour. Seems to me that Israel takes a lot for granted with not enough accountability, while its leaders can do what they want. Without knowing all the background details, I confess I find Israel’s sense of entitlement somewhat hard to swallow, especially given some of the heartless actions perpetuated in its name by Bibi. OTH, can you imagine *any* American politician attaching more stringent conditions on the aid Israel gets without a major blow-back?

        • 35 SUEDUVALL SMITH
          February 13, 2025 at 4:23 pm

          WE HAVE ALWAYS PROMISED TO STAND BY ISRAEL…THEREFORE IT IS IMPORTANT TO HONOR THAT PROMISE..IT’S GOD’S HOLY LAND AND IT IS DEEPLY THREATENED BY ALL OF ITS NEIGHBORS WHO WANT IT TO VANISH FROM THE EARTH ALTOGETHER…WE SHOULD ALWAYS BEND OVER BACKWARDS FOR ISRAEL…CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS FOR US WITHOUT ASKING FOR A TRADE-OFF OR BENEFICIAL OPTIONS…END OF STORY.

          • 36 vcprezofan2
            February 13, 2025 at 4:55 pm

            But that is really not the end of the story IMO - not when you consider that Israel doesn’t seem to want peace and that the country *has* progressed very well over the years. IMO some attention ought to be given to the threat Israel itself may have become. America has become this big brother hovering protectively over Isreal, while Israel hangs on to its legs while kicking out at others. Doesn’t seem right to me.

          • 37 nospin
            February 13, 2025 at 5:09 pm

            Sueduvall - with all due respect — standing by someone does not mean forcing an entire country to be your personal checking account and there is something very wrong for anyone to putting out those talking points to validate that somehow it is enough to support the biggest welfare scam in history. I did not make any such promise.

            And let’s pretend that all Americans believed in God….Nowhere in the bible (old or new testament) does it say that the United States of America should use tax payer money to fund Israel’s penchant for war, oppression of a people, and whatever the crap they want to spend it on at the expense of their own citizens. I think that the belief that if America cuts off the flow of US tax payer money to Israel would somehow be the factor that destroys God’s Holy land and vanishes it from the earth is a huge pile of bullshit. God does not need man to fight his battles. At least my God doesn’t.

            Oh and Christ died on the cross for all of us and guess what???? Jesus paid it all! So he did not leave outstanding bills for the USA to have to pay the difference. You said yourself that Christ died without asking for a trade off or beneficial option so why can’t Isreal get off the teats of the American tax payer?

            If folks want to donate to Israel, fine, but to force an entire nation to foot the bill for this shit…yearly at the expense of our own citizens???? Bullshyte. Israel is the representation of what is considered a Welfare Queen. There should be laws against this. This is wrong on to many levels.

        • 39 Betsy
          February 13, 2025 at 4:54 pm

          Not only that, but in the piece it says that Netanyahu says if he doesn’t get the right amount of money he’ll wait until the new president is in place and negotiate then. The arrogance continues.

          • 40 vcprezofan2
            February 13, 2025 at 4:59 pm

            The situation is so entrenched that Netanyahu feels safe being offensive and arrogant with very little will to tell him to ‘stuff it!’ That is so wrong IMO. What I find sad is I see no glimmer going forward as to how to rein him and his (country’s) expectations in without them making a fuss about being abandoned.

            • 41 Betsy
              February 13, 2025 at 5:03 pm

              I say withdraw the offer and challenge them to wait. We’ll keep our money in the bank until they make up their minds.

              • 42 vcprezofan2
                February 13, 2025 at 5:33 pm

                Not likely to happen, I don’t think. Repubs would use the occasion to make a lot of noise about this Admin being anti-Israel although it’s not true.

  10. 43 jazziz2
    February 13, 2025 at 1:29 pm

    I grew up reading him. His voice will be missed.

  11. 46 globalcitizenlinda
    February 13, 2025 at 2:21 pm

    by the way, SCOTUS legitimized Citizen United in their corrupt move to give gop advantage by introducing big money into campaigns.

    but as with everything, the theory of “unintended consequences” is that it has made traditional parties lose control over who can be their candidate. I cannot fathom what SCOTUS thinks now.

    suspecting that after this election cycle, both the Dems & gop may make some modifications on the eligibility requirements for someone to run on their party’s ticket for POTUS and other elected positions…. hope I am wrong;

  12. 47 jazziz2
    February 13, 2025 at 2:21 pm

    • 48 prettyfoot58
      February 13, 2025 at 2:52 pm

      this makes ma heart ache….and the media now promotes TRUMP….and Sanders hasn’t a clue re: racism….

    • 49 prettyfoot58
      February 13, 2025 at 2:53 pm

      http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/10/us/map-of-73-years-of-lynching.html

    • 50 prettyfoot58
      February 13, 2025 at 2:54 pm

      • 51 mtmarilyn
        February 13, 2025 at 4:44 pm

        Thank you for posting this. I truly believe this needs to be on the tv and in the papers. It’s been swept under the rug for too long. I read one and can’t read any more. I get so physically sick thinking of this happening in our country. How can people be so filled with hatred as to kill another human being without conscience.

      • 54 jazziz2
        February 13, 2025 at 5:05 pm

        Just think, this only deals with the southern lynchings; would love to see the stats on the rest of the country. Reporting on the country as a whole would lay to rest the lie that racism, lynchings, etc. are a southern phenomenon.

    • 56 rikyrah
      February 13, 2025 at 3:08 pm

      These people were terrorized in their own country.

      But..we’re not supposed to remember everything that happened to our community

      • 57 prettyfoot58
        February 13, 2025 at 3:28 pm

        i read an article a few years ago…about the Dr King and civil rights movement…the author said that the greatest thing that was achieved was that it broke the back of fear in the blk community….broke the back of fear…..

        going to look for that article…

        • 58 rikyrah
          February 13, 2025 at 4:34 pm

          it was on DKos. I remember that post too

          • 59 prettyfoot58
            February 13, 2025 at 4:47 pm

            yes…do you remember what year…i would like to post it….

            • 60 prettyfoot58
              February 13, 2025 at 5:03 pm

              But this is what the great Dr. Martin Luther King accomplished. Not that he marched, nor that he gave speeches.

              He ended the terror of living as a black person, especially in the south. It wasn’t that black people had to use a separate drinking fountain or couldn’t sit at lunch counters, or had to sit in the back of the bus. It was that white people, mostly white men, occasionally went berserk, and grabbed random black people, usually men, and lynched them. You all know about lynching. But you may forget or not know that white people also randomly beat black people, and the black people could not fight back, for fear of even worse punishment.

              This constant low level dread of atavistic violence is what kept the system running. It made life miserable, stressful and terrifying for black people.

              If you get a chance …please read this….

              The more i hear about Sanders trying to co-op the CR movement the angrier i get…

              • 61 prettyfoot58
                February 13, 2025 at 5:14 pm

                More from this great article…

                So yes, Dr. King had many other goals, many other more transcendent, non-racial, policy goals, goals that apply to white people too, like ending poverty, reducing the war-like aspects of our foreign policy, promoting the New Deal goal of universal employment, and so on. But his main accomplishment was ending 200 years of racial terrorism, by getting black people to confront their fears. So please don’t tell me that Martin Luther King’s dream has not been achieved, unless you knew what racial terrorism was like back then and can make a convincing case you still feel it today. If you did not go through that transition, you’re not qualified to say that the dream was not accomplished.

                ************

                and Congressman John Lewis is part of this legacy…

                Bernie Sanders is a usurper….pisses me off….

  13. 62 JER
    February 13, 2025 at 3:17 pm

    • 63 SUEDUVALL SMITH
      February 13, 2025 at 4:05 pm

      HAPPY TO SEE THIS…THEY’D BETTER HAVE ALL EYES EVERYWHERE AND REMAIN ALERT FOR THE ENERGIZER..OR I’LL SUE YA.’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. 64 prettyfoot58
    February 13, 2025 at 3:41 pm

    Organizing…

    this what we all should be doing…

  15. 67 prettyfoot58
    February 13, 2025 at 3:47 pm

    the category of NON-White…because everything has to be about whiteness…NADAAAAAAAAAAA

  16. 68 prettyfoot58
    February 13, 2025 at 3:53 pm

    The real story about what Bill Clinton said….deep…

  17. 69 SUEDUVALL SMITH
    February 13, 2025 at 4:11 pm

    SAW MY NEW APT. TODAY..IT IS MAGNIFICO!…..RIGHT ON A 25 ACRE LAKE AND LOTS OF MALLARDS FOR ME TO FEED!,,,,,IT IS JUST PERFECT AND PEACEFUL…NO LONGER WILL I HAVE TO LISTEN TO VEHICLES WITHOUT MUFFLERS BEARING CONFEDERATE FLAGS DRAGGING THEIR DRIVERS AND CHAW TOBACCO LOADED DENTURES DOWN THE STREET. OH PEACE…CHANGE IS COMIN’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 70 prettyfoot58
      February 13, 2025 at 4:26 pm

      sounds wonderful…i hope that you will be happy there…i made a few difficult moves myself….downsizing from a house to a duplex…then to an even smaller apartment…i had to let go of things that meant a lot to me..because i just no longer had room….been at my latest place for a lil more than a year…still getting settle in…

    • 71 jackiegrumbacher
      February 13, 2025 at 4:57 pm

      Sue, I hope this is a happy and peaceful place for you. The stress of leaving a hateful place will do wonders for you. Is it happening soon?

  18. 72 SUEDUVALL SMITH
    February 13, 2025 at 4:16 pm

    LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE IS OUT OF TOWN…BBL……………………:)

  19. 73 prettyfoot58
    February 13, 2025 at 4:18 pm

    Gonna leave this right here…

    i do have one question….

    the bi-patisan commitee working in the Senate..is Bernie Sanders a part of that

  20. 78 hopefruit2
    February 13, 2025 at 4:22 pm

    This is unacceptable. If this is true then Hayes needs to apologize or be fired. This is Breitbart-style dishonest reporting.

  21. 79 prettyfoot58
    February 13, 2025 at 4:23 pm

  22. 80 Bill R.
    February 13, 2025 at 4:59 pm

    I’m not usually happy when someone dies, but this changes things for the better:

  23. 85 jazziz2
    February 13, 2025 at 5:13 pm

  24. February 13, 2025 at 5:15 pm

    Wow

  25. 90 Wilson Michael
    February 13, 2025 at 5:16 pm

    Wow!!!! Who the president is and who controls the senate matters!!!!

  26. 94 0388jojothecat
    February 13, 2025 at 5:17 pm

    Oh My God……..I was never never never never expecting this in one million years. I pray for his soul because he has said some pretty awful things that he must reconcile with his maker…..

  27. 95 swbluega
    February 13, 2025 at 5:18 pm

  28. 97 yardarm756
    February 13, 2025 at 6:39 pm

    “The evil that men do,….”


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