I hope that those who have benefited from our President’s actions will remember that on election day and come out in droves to sustain his legacy. Everything good and positive that has happened under PBO’s leadership would be destroyed overnight with the ignoramus Trump in the White House and a Republican Congress, not to mention a right win extremist Supreme Court. We CAN”T let his happen!!!
That’s great news, Bob. My heart aches for those who have tried to live and raise their families in and around Fallujah for the last ten years. It must be like a living nightmare.
Continued thoughts and virtual hugs for Chipsticks and her mother. {{{{{Chipsticks}}}}}
And continued appreciation to Nerdy and LP in backup mode for keeping the village going. You are doing a fabulous job staying on top of all the goings on. And thanks to all the contributors for sharing the information that you have.
Perhaps Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
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The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued maneuvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over – Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession…broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
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When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was “never”. When Michael Gove went on and on about “informal negotiations”…why? why not the formal ones straight away?… he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean; an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
I find the problem with this is the rest of the EU - and in fact the world. Resolution is needed asap - UK is not the only country with financial and political fall out from this vote. Europe wants to sort it out now - not years down the track.
Cameron just walked away from his responsibility. He should have said upfront that Article 50 was/was not going to be triggered. Although there are millions saying this is a home goal & not what was wanted, there are still many millions in the UK celebrating leaving Europe.
Having the vote & dividing the country was done to cement Cameron’s position. Biggest fail ever - should NEVER have happened. It is always RW politicians who act like they have the divine right to rule & run and hide if that right is contested.
I think I read somewhere in the article that Cameron originally said that a vote for Leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away, the inference being that *he* would be giving the notice the day after the vote to leave.
If his change of heart was because he truly believed that Remain would win, or if in anger, he is making sure his opposition goes down with him….
The UK will find that the EU and the rest of the world is looking at the results of the referendum as a statement of definite intent and not the vote of protest that many in the UK are claimin in their buyer’s remorse. To the degree that it can the EU and the world will move on (is moving on) and will not wait around while the UK continues its indecisiveness and political games.
I agree with your analysis swbluega - there are some good articles in the guardian as to why so many people are blaming the EU for their misery when it all began with Thatcher and has carried on ever since. Blair and “new labor” did nothing for the majority of Britons.
I believe also that Cameron did say he would trigger Article 50 - like EVERY politician involved - he lied. I can understand he does not want to implement the withdrawal, given he doesn’t support it - if ALL of the politicians, including Cameron, had been honest about the future with/without the EU, the result may have been believable, whichever way it went.
To be fair, cammy boy and all other sane pols did warn the brits of the consequences. I don’t blame him for not taking the fall for this. Let the instigators handle it and let the voters suffer for their vote/nonvote.
He should have said up front he would resign if exit won - he did not. He was just too sure of himself. Should NEVER have had the vote - again - too sure of himself. He should be taking the fall - the remain campaign did not fight the lies, did not ram home the issues. When you have Cornwall and Wales voting to exit because “we don’t want our money going to the EU” and they receive MASSES of funding from the EU, somewhere the message didn’t get through - and I put that squarely on Cameron.
Also & too - it was Cameron’s economic policies that made everyone believe all that EU money could go into the National Health. Cameron has been starving the health system for years - staffing has got lower and lower. 15 years ago everyone I talked with was happy with the system - we got good service during our time there - zero cost. Today - no staff, falling apart.
screwing nhs started with maggie and continued under tony and cammy. I personally know because BIL is working as a senior surgeon and they just postponed his retirement and my brilliant niece, a consistent topper and excellent diagnostician, is now working as a locum, since being employed directly by nhs is losing game.
I was there in 2002 & most folk were still happy with it. We had some issues and discussed private health care but all the folks living near us (most were “comfortable” middle class) said they were happy with the NHS. I had family working for the NHS & the last few years their case loads doubled and many have gone elsewhere because of the stress.
“To be fair, cammy boy and all other sane pols did warn the brits of the consequences. I don’t blame him for not taking the fall for this. Let the instigators handle it and let the voters suffer for their vote/nonvote.”
say it again amk. I see it as folks are too entitled. When warned specifically about the outcomes of their bad decisions… they choose to do it anyway and when shit happens, they turn to the person(s) who warned them with the expectation that they clean it up.
I don’t blame Cameron one bit. Good on him. Let the instigators and the idiots who felt this was in anyway a good idea deal with it.
Of course, you had the side that appealed to the fears and struggles of the less educated/lower income with false promises and the perception that a “simple” action will result in the *immediate* resolution all of their problems.
These are also the voters who have such a distrust of what they consider to be the “establishment” that they were skeptical of the information provided and discounted any warnings of potential fallout.
And what can she do? She takes the advice of the PM - even if she doesn’t like him or her. I would hazard a guess this is not what she wanted towards the end of her reign.
Sorry pf - I went to bed & missed your comment. The Queen has no influence - in fact she never publicly gives an opinion - the minute she forgets & something slips out (there was an instance recently which escapes me) there is usually negative publicity of same. She is smart, educated with a very wide knowledge of politics and the world and she may give an opinion to a PM (doubtful) but it would carry no special weight. When she opens parliament with a speech on “my government will do …) sometimes I wonder if she almost chokes when some of the issues she really disagrees with!
Cameron’s resignation was a bit strange - “Prime Minister David Cameron is to step down by October after the UK voted to leave the European Union. Mr Cameron made the announcement in a statement outside Downing Street after the final result was announced. He said he would attempt to “steady the ship” over the coming weeks and months but that “fresh leadership” was needed.
Most PMs resign here and now.
While he is still a member of parliament and until a replacement is elected (by his party) I guess he could withdraw it - he could also be re-elected by the party - if he would accept same. By voting to exit, the country has voted against him in a spectacular fashion - he will not stay.
To use his own words - widely reported - ‘Why should I do the hard s**t?’ The Prime Minister said he would continue in Number 10 until the party elects a successor, likely to be before the Tory conference in October.
Everyone’s got reservations about Hillary - but she is sane, logical and knowledgeable. Nothing she will do could be anywhere near as traumatic for the US and the world as any 1 thing Trump might do. No-one (not even the revolting Murdoch) has any idea as to what a Trump presidency would bring.
Main worry about the polls - the GOP might use them to try and nominate someone else. Trump needs to suffer a massive defeat at the ballot box to shut him out of anything other than selling Trump lemonade.
I don’t see any scenario where Trump is denied the nomination. He has the support of the GOP leadership. They can’t turn on him now and risk mob violence because his liabilities have been known all along. They’ve painted themselves into a corner and I do not believe there is a way out.
Thanks meta - I’m turning into a worry wart with all that is happening - trying to ignore what is happening to my retirement nest egg and concentrate on seeing the RW politicians eat grass and the media fall in a mud heap. Both are likely with Trump as the GOP nominee.
I don’t blame you for worrying. What’s happening now is CRAZY by any standard. But the monied interest takeover of our “free” press and the extremist shift of the GOP have created an alarming toxic stew that is bubbling over with the rise of advancing majority POC. I believe we will weather this storm as we have President Obama to guide our ship. I do cling to HOPE, thanks to his leadership.
..i never thought of her as incompetent… had hard feelings from her primary race with the President…i have had to come to terms with Barack Obama not being the President…
all that being said we are less than 6 mos from the election….i have no caveat…meaning…holding my nose to vote for her….
i notice that the press has to consistently say that she is the worse of two evils…and of course Bernie has does his best and continues to not only portray her as corrupt…but the DEM party as well…
i look forward to the DEM convention…it will be a robust one…in which i anticipate that DEMS will stand tall and be proud to not only be DEMs but indeed make even more history by nominating the First Woman to be President of the US….
I went to college with Hillary, graduating a year before her. I was managing editor for the college newspaper. Everything in terms of local issues that we editorialized for she was able to enact the following year as student body president. She was able to negotiate with the administration and represent the students in a skillful, effective manner. I strongly supported President Obama in 2008 and ever since but I think Hillary will build on his legacy as well as protect it. She was always more liberal than her husband. With Trump as an alternative everything we all have fought for is at risk. We need to make sure that everyone votes.
Thanks for this statement, taiping. I keep wondering at the persistent beliefs that she is a liar, a war-monger, and in the pockets of wall street. Did this originate with the rethugs smearing her husband’s presidency? And how do we counter such ingrained beliefs?
More likely the media has stopped spreading lies and innuendo, while ranting about “both sides” and talking up the wonders of conservatives. Suddenly they have generated Trump & realise what they have wrought.
Trump’s stark raving lunacy stands in direct sobering contrast to the calm and steady leadership of a truly remarkable man. President Obama’s strengths will only become clearer as the days move on.
Thanks, SW. This FB post puts things in a clearer light. The UK is truly caught in a trap with dire consequences if they move forward to formally exit the EU and another set of consequences if they ignore the referendum and stay put. What would it take for a general election to be called in which the people have a chance to throw all of these bums out?
First, were we to have an early General Election fought by one party on an explicit Remain platform and were that party to prevail it would, I think, amount to a ‘refreshed democratic mandate’. The electorate would have spoken such that the result of the Referendum would be superseded.
Second, even without such a General Election, Parliament might decide that circumstances had changed sufficiently, as in Ireland, to put the proposition to the electorate again.
The General Election route requires that three things happen.
First, there would need to be a General Election. The Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 requires that (absent a no-confidence motion in the Government) the motion for an early general election achieve a two-thirds majority in the House of Commons.
Second, one or other side would have to stand on an explicit Remain platform…
And, third, that Remain platform would need to win…
The other possible route to a second Referendum is much simpler. Again, it has three steps.
First, it would require a recognition on the part of the EU that the concerns of the local electorate be met with concessions…
Second, there must be a desire on the part of the Government of the day to deliver a second referendum…
Facebook and Youtube will now automatically remove extremist videos https://t.co/coAiUnRbpq pic.twitter.com/bfNHZMa0k5
— The Hill (@thehill) June 26, 2025
Facebook and Youtube are using automation to block extremist videos from their platforms, Reuters reported Friday.
The companies are deploying systems to block or quickly take down Islamic State videos and other similar material, the report said.
The news comes after pressure from President Obama and European leaders who were concerned about online radicalization. Internet companies, including Facebook, Twitter and Youtube, held a call to discuss options.
GM TOD - so nice to see PBO approval go up and up - will never understand why people couldn’t realise his worth and vote to support him - guess it’s better late than never.
GM everyone, congrats on 1st-est Don. And never underestimate our POTUS. Always working under the radar to make it safer for everyone Love him, love him, love him.
Good morning TOD! Happy to see PBO’s approval up to 56% in the new poll. I think this poll overstates HRC’s advantage but it is rising. And the polls that came out today do not include Trump’s idiotic remarks in Scotland on Friday. I have thought for months that PBO’s approval will be in the 56-60% range by the time of the election.
The interesting thing about all of this is that Trump may be the one GOP candidate that HRC has a good chance to defeat. After 25 years of attacks-and the Clintons’ self-inflicted injuries-a strong GOP candidate may well have defeated her. But Bernie’s attacks will lose their potency as we see more and more of Trump. In the poll this morning, only 8% of Bernie supporters said they would vote for Trump, down from 20% last month. Bernie has lost his chance to gain much from an endorsement of her. Now the big task is making sure the young voters get out to vote. PBO will be helpful in that regard.
As to Brexit, regardless of Cameron’s plans, the EU has too much at stake to allow the UK to drag its feet. The remaining countries will push hard to move this ahead quickly.
Perhaps the biggest issue with the Brexit vote is the amount of uncertainty it creates. I was laying in bed this morning thinking about the amount of unrest in the world and it is somewhat amazing. While we focus on the ME and Syria, in South America you have Venezuela and Brazil falling apart, the entire ME, numerous countries on the African continent, and now Europe. The only true stability is in North America and Australia and NZ. But that supports the need for stability here and I think most Americans will recognize that. Despite the controversies over Trump the last few months, I have held to the belief that the country that elected PBO twice by large margins will not elect a crazy. And I do think Clinton has learned from PBO. She is running a much better campaign this time around and is a much better candidate. Conversely, Trump continues to take most of his advice from the non-experts and it shows, which of course is why he would be so dangerous as president.
GM NW - much sadness for our wonderful Chips. May she always remember her Mum with love and be blessed because of what they were to each other. We are forever in love with our mothers - the only unconditional love that ever does exist.
Thank you for being here Nerdy - all you do is so much appreciated.
I’m sorry to hear about Chipstick’s mom’s passing. May she rest in peace and may Chipsticks and her family find comfort in the knowledge that she is no longer suffering and may the wonderful memories of her mom remain in her heart. {{{{Chipsticks and Family}}}}
Oh my gosh, I’m so sorry to hear this very sad news. What a heartbreak for Chips and her family.
Chips, you are always in our hearts, overflowing with love and appreciation. You’ve stood with us through thick and thin and now we are here to do what we can for you. Sending you tremendous amounts of love and strength, peace and tranquility. I know your Mum will continue to be so proud of you every single day. XOXOXOXO
So sorry to hear this news this morning…Chips, you are in my thoughts and prayers. I know this feeling that you have now after your mom’s passing. Please know that as the days, weeks, months go by, the ache will be less painful. I promise you, she is not gone, she is here with you still. Much love to you and your family. She lives on, in you. xoxox
NW, a favor to ask. Would it be possible to have a thread dedicated just for Chips so our messages of condolence can all be in one place for her whenever she’s ready? Just a thought.
{{{{LOVE and LIGHT}}}} surrounds you my dear Chipsticks and your entire family on the loss of your precious mum. Your TOD family sends you our prayers as well as our virtual hugs.
Thanks for the update, NW! So sorry to hear of the death of Chip’s mom. At any age, speaking from experience, it is a grievous loss to lose your mother.
My love, prayers go to Chips and her family. I know how hard it is when you lose your mother. It is something you never quite get over. You learn how to live with it and go on. Sending her our love, prayers, strength and energy.
NW thank you for being here to take this worry off of Chips and to keep us going. We send you our love and thanks.
This guy is a piece of work, first he gets his hat handed to him and now he wants to dictate to Hillary how she should go about gaining his endorsement and the people that voted for him.
While Bernie continues to send mixed messages and refuses to outright concede and endorse HRC, it seems that many of his “supporters” have had enough and have moved on…to support Hillary Clinton…
Bernie supporters just jumped to Clinton in a way Clinton supporters never really jumped to Obama in 2008 https://t.co/nd6DTvvzum
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) June 26, 2025
“Donald Trump’s bad month just got worse, because Sanders backers just rallied to Clinton”
…we have some bad news for the Trump campaign. Sanders supporters aren’t just rallying around Clinton; they’re doing it rather quickly. And it’s a big reason Clinton just extended her lead over Trump into the double digits, 51 percent to 39 percent….
Last month, 20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election. This month, that figure is down to 8 percent.
the author is surprised that Hillary supporters were slow to back Barack Obama…saying it was understandable why some would vote for Mc Cain over the President because Hillary Clinton was more “moderate than Barack Obama…and John McCain was a “moderate” Republican….give me a break….folks just refuse to see racism as the the reason….tsk tsk tsk
You would have thought that after President Obama gave Sanders his day in the sun at the White House that he would have accepted that gesture and bowed out gracefully, but no, he still wants to piss in everyone’s cheerios.
May Mama Chips rest in peace! I'd like to think her brother greeted her as soon as she crossed over, and that even now they are 'catching up' on family news. Love, comfort and peace be with you and your family as you mourn your mom's physical departure and celebrate her life of caring, love and practicality. Know that we TODobots are here for you now, and will be here for you if ever you need to share memories of MC. I will long remember she shared our concern for Pres O skipping up and down the steps of AF1.
{{{CC}}} May the God your mum loved and worshiped hold all of her loved ones up during this time of loss.
My Dear Chips, please take comfort in the good times you shared. As much as it hurts, also take comfort in knowing that she is at rest. My condolences to you and your family. Blessings, I am sure you did all that you could. You are loved. RIP Mama Chips.
Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has told the BBC that Holyrood could try to block the UK’s exit from the EU.
She was speaking following a referendum on Thursday which saw Britain vote by 52% to 48% to leave Europe.
However, in Scotland the picture was different with 62% backing Remain and 38% wanting to go.
SNP leader Ms Sturgeon said that “of course” she would ask MSPs to refuse to give their “legislative consent”.
You know, it really worries me how many idiots on the so-called left have lost their marbles. The comments there are that the DNC has refused St. Sanders’ $15 dollar wage in the final platform. NONE of that is true. But they’ve all worked themselves into a serious lather that it is. They’re addicted to being slighted so they can scream and feel important.
I am not so sure I buy that theory. If you for whatever reason think it is okay to scapegoat an entire race just because… then you are a racist. period.
Adults are perfectly capable to see a situation for what it is and choose whether or not to support it. Especially if the rationale is that everything that is wrong with me or my life is because of minorities. …nope…don’t buy it.
Hola!
Good Morning Don, and congrats on First!
Congrats, Don!
And good Sunday morning, NW - and the rest of TODville!
At that is just on the military front.
Also, breakthroughs in leadership for women and gays. Huge progress in so many areas!
I hope that those who have benefited from our President’s actions will remember that on election day and come out in droves to sustain his legacy. Everything good and positive that has happened under PBO’s leadership would be destroyed overnight with the ignoramus Trump in the White House and a Republican Congress, not to mention a right win extremist Supreme Court. We CAN”T let his happen!!!
🌹🌹🙏🏻🌹❤️🚅✈️♑️♊️♋️🕉 Safe and exciting journey for our First Lady and beloved daughters. We will keep watch over you as we miss you!
Good morning, TODville. THANK YOU for your leadership, NW. I hope everyone has a relaxing and rejuvenating Sunday.
That’s great news, Bob. My heart aches for those who have tried to live and raise their families in and around Fallujah for the last ten years. It must be like a living nightmare.
Good Sunday, Nerdy…TOD Family.
Continued thoughts and virtual hugs for Chipsticks and her mother. {{{{{Chipsticks}}}}}
And continued appreciation to Nerdy and LP in backup mode for keeping the village going. You are doing a fabulous job staying on top of all the goings on. And thanks to all the contributors for sharing the information that you have.
Everyone enjoy your day.
Not sure whose FB account this is but it has an interesting perspective:
Perhaps Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
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The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued maneuvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over – Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession…broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
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When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was “never”. When Michael Gove went on and on about “informal negotiations”…why? why not the formal ones straight away?… he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean; an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
I find the problem with this is the rest of the EU - and in fact the world. Resolution is needed asap - UK is not the only country with financial and political fall out from this vote. Europe wants to sort it out now - not years down the track.
Cameron just walked away from his responsibility. He should have said upfront that Article 50 was/was not going to be triggered. Although there are millions saying this is a home goal & not what was wanted, there are still many millions in the UK celebrating leaving Europe.
Having the vote & dividing the country was done to cement Cameron’s position. Biggest fail ever - should NEVER have happened. It is always RW politicians who act like they have the divine right to rule & run and hide if that right is contested.
I think I read somewhere in the article that Cameron originally said that a vote for Leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away, the inference being that *he* would be giving the notice the day after the vote to leave.
If his change of heart was because he truly believed that Remain would win, or if in anger, he is making sure his opposition goes down with him….
The UK will find that the EU and the rest of the world is looking at the results of the referendum as a statement of definite intent and not the vote of protest that many in the UK are claimin in their buyer’s remorse. To the degree that it can the EU and the world will move on (is moving on) and will not wait around while the UK continues its indecisiveness and political games.
I agree with your analysis swbluega - there are some good articles in the guardian as to why so many people are blaming the EU for their misery when it all began with Thatcher and has carried on ever since. Blair and “new labor” did nothing for the majority of Britons.
I believe also that Cameron did say he would trigger Article 50 - like EVERY politician involved - he lied. I can understand he does not want to implement the withdrawal, given he doesn’t support it - if ALL of the politicians, including Cameron, had been honest about the future with/without the EU, the result may have been believable, whichever way it went.
To be fair, cammy boy and all other sane pols did warn the brits of the consequences. I don’t blame him for not taking the fall for this. Let the instigators handle it and let the voters suffer for their vote/nonvote.
He should have said up front he would resign if exit won - he did not. He was just too sure of himself. Should NEVER have had the vote - again - too sure of himself. He should be taking the fall - the remain campaign did not fight the lies, did not ram home the issues. When you have Cornwall and Wales voting to exit because “we don’t want our money going to the EU” and they receive MASSES of funding from the EU, somewhere the message didn’t get through - and I put that squarely on Cameron.
Also & too - it was Cameron’s economic policies that made everyone believe all that EU money could go into the National Health. Cameron has been starving the health system for years - staffing has got lower and lower. 15 years ago everyone I talked with was happy with the system - we got good service during our time there - zero cost. Today - no staff, falling apart.
screwing nhs started with maggie and continued under tony and cammy. I personally know because BIL is working as a senior surgeon and they just postponed his retirement and my brilliant niece, a consistent topper and excellent diagnostician, is now working as a locum, since being employed directly by nhs is losing game.
I was there in 2002 & most folk were still happy with it. We had some issues and discussed private health care but all the folks living near us (most were “comfortable” middle class) said they were happy with the NHS. I had family working for the NHS & the last few years their case loads doubled and many have gone elsewhere because of the stress.
“To be fair, cammy boy and all other sane pols did warn the brits of the consequences. I don’t blame him for not taking the fall for this. Let the instigators handle it and let the voters suffer for their vote/nonvote.”
say it again amk. I see it as folks are too entitled. When warned specifically about the outcomes of their bad decisions… they choose to do it anyway and when shit happens, they turn to the person(s) who warned them with the expectation that they clean it up.
I don’t blame Cameron one bit. Good on him. Let the instigators and the idiots who felt this was in anyway a good idea deal with it.
Of course, you had the side that appealed to the fears and struggles of the less educated/lower income with false promises and the perception that a “simple” action will result in the *immediate* resolution all of their problems.
These are also the voters who have such a distrust of what they consider to be the “establishment” that they were skeptical of the information provided and discounted any warnings of potential fallout.
yup, boris punched hisself in the nose.
Only thing that can save the limey asses is the queen.
And what can she do? She takes the advice of the PM - even if she doesn’t like him or her. I would hazard a guess this is not what she wanted towards the end of her reign.
This is an extraordinary situation that is gonna breakup UK. I am sure they will figure out a way.
The politicians have to sort it - Queen has no say.
entering this fray…
although she may not have power…she does have influence….
question …Can Cameron rescind his resignation
Sorry pf - I went to bed & missed your comment. The Queen has no influence - in fact she never publicly gives an opinion - the minute she forgets & something slips out (there was an instance recently which escapes me) there is usually negative publicity of same. She is smart, educated with a very wide knowledge of politics and the world and she may give an opinion to a PM (doubtful) but it would carry no special weight. When she opens parliament with a speech on “my government will do …) sometimes I wonder if she almost chokes when some of the issues she really disagrees with!
Cameron’s resignation was a bit strange - “Prime Minister David Cameron is to step down by October after the UK voted to leave the European Union. Mr Cameron made the announcement in a statement outside Downing Street after the final result was announced. He said he would attempt to “steady the ship” over the coming weeks and months but that “fresh leadership” was needed.
Most PMs resign here and now.
While he is still a member of parliament and until a replacement is elected (by his party) I guess he could withdraw it - he could also be re-elected by the party - if he would accept same. By voting to exit, the country has voted against him in a spectacular fashion - he will not stay.
To use his own words - widely reported - ‘Why should I do the hard s**t?’ The Prime Minister said he would continue in Number 10 until the party elects a successor, likely to be before the Tory conference in October.
I expect this to continue to go up the more Trump opens his mouth.
Everyone’s got reservations about Hillary - but she is sane, logical and knowledgeable. Nothing she will do could be anywhere near as traumatic for the US and the world as any 1 thing Trump might do. No-one (not even the revolting Murdoch) has any idea as to what a Trump presidency would bring.
Main worry about the polls - the GOP might use them to try and nominate someone else. Trump needs to suffer a massive defeat at the ballot box to shut him out of anything other than selling Trump lemonade.
I don’t see any scenario where Trump is denied the nomination. He has the support of the GOP leadership. They can’t turn on him now and risk mob violence because his liabilities have been known all along. They’ve painted themselves into a corner and I do not believe there is a way out.
Thanks meta - I’m turning into a worry wart with all that is happening - trying to ignore what is happening to my retirement nest egg and concentrate on seeing the RW politicians eat grass and the media fall in a mud heap. Both are likely with Trump as the GOP nominee.
I don’t blame you for worrying. What’s happening now is CRAZY by any standard. But the monied interest takeover of our “free” press and the extremist shift of the GOP have created an alarming toxic stew that is bubbling over with the rise of advancing majority POC. I believe we will weather this storm as we have President Obama to guide our ship. I do cling to HOPE, thanks to his leadership.
..i never thought of her as incompetent… had hard feelings from her primary race with the President…i have had to come to terms with Barack Obama not being the President…
all that being said we are less than 6 mos from the election….i have no caveat…meaning…holding my nose to vote for her….
i notice that the press has to consistently say that she is the worse of two evils…and of course Bernie has does his best and continues to not only portray her as corrupt…but the DEM party as well…
i look forward to the DEM convention…it will be a robust one…in which i anticipate that DEMS will stand tall and be proud to not only be DEMs but indeed make even more history by nominating the First Woman to be President of the US….
I went to college with Hillary, graduating a year before her. I was managing editor for the college newspaper. Everything in terms of local issues that we editorialized for she was able to enact the following year as student body president. She was able to negotiate with the administration and represent the students in a skillful, effective manner. I strongly supported President Obama in 2008 and ever since but I think Hillary will build on his legacy as well as protect it. She was always more liberal than her husband. With Trump as an alternative everything we all have fought for is at risk. We need to make sure that everyone votes.
Thanks for this statement, taiping. I keep wondering at the persistent beliefs that she is a liar, a war-monger, and in the pockets of wall street. Did this originate with the rethugs smearing her husband’s presidency? And how do we counter such ingrained beliefs?
WOW!!! 56%!!! Keep talking Donald…
Oh, most definitely!!!
murkans finally realizing what assholes they have been for the past 7.5 years?
More likely the media has stopped spreading lies and innuendo, while ranting about “both sides” and talking up the wonders of conservatives. Suddenly they have generated Trump & realise what they have wrought.
Trump’s stark raving lunacy stands in direct sobering contrast to the calm and steady leadership of a truly remarkable man. President Obama’s strengths will only become clearer as the days move on.
Thanks, SW. This FB post puts things in a clearer light. The UK is truly caught in a trap with dire consequences if they move forward to formally exit the EU and another set of consequences if they ignore the referendum and stay put. What would it take for a general election to be called in which the people have a chance to throw all of these bums out?
Found this article on yesterday….
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“HOW TO DELIVER A SECOND REFERENDUM”
https://waitingfortax.com/2016/06/24/when-i-say-no-i-mean-maybe/
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How might such a thing be delivered?
I can see two routes.
First, were we to have an early General Election fought by one party on an explicit Remain platform and were that party to prevail it would, I think, amount to a ‘refreshed democratic mandate’. The electorate would have spoken such that the result of the Referendum would be superseded.
Second, even without such a General Election, Parliament might decide that circumstances had changed sufficiently, as in Ireland, to put the proposition to the electorate again.
The General Election route requires that three things happen.
First, there would need to be a General Election. The Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 requires that (absent a no-confidence motion in the Government) the motion for an early general election achieve a two-thirds majority in the House of Commons.
Second, one or other side would have to stand on an explicit Remain platform…
And, third, that Remain platform would need to win…
The other possible route to a second Referendum is much simpler. Again, it has three steps.
First, it would require a recognition on the part of the EU that the concerns of the local electorate be met with concessions…
Second, there must be a desire on the part of the Government of the day to deliver a second referendum…
Third, a renewed Referendum would have to be won…
Facebook and Youtube are using automation to block extremist videos from their platforms, Reuters reported Friday.
The companies are deploying systems to block or quickly take down Islamic State videos and other similar material, the report said.
The news comes after pressure from President Obama and European leaders who were concerned about online radicalization. Internet companies, including Facebook, Twitter and Youtube, held a call to discuss options.
GM TOD - so nice to see PBO approval go up and up - will never understand why people couldn’t realise his worth and vote to support him - guess it’s better late than never.
GM everyone, congrats on 1st-est Don. And never underestimate our POTUS. Always working under the radar to make it safer for everyone Love him, love him, love him.
Good Morning 😊, Everyone 😆
ABC/Wash Post poll has Hillary in lead by 12%
Any time you can look the other way when you see racism, then you are saying you support racism. Hear me Paul Ryan.
Good morning TOD! Happy to see PBO’s approval up to 56% in the new poll. I think this poll overstates HRC’s advantage but it is rising. And the polls that came out today do not include Trump’s idiotic remarks in Scotland on Friday. I have thought for months that PBO’s approval will be in the 56-60% range by the time of the election.
The interesting thing about all of this is that Trump may be the one GOP candidate that HRC has a good chance to defeat. After 25 years of attacks-and the Clintons’ self-inflicted injuries-a strong GOP candidate may well have defeated her. But Bernie’s attacks will lose their potency as we see more and more of Trump. In the poll this morning, only 8% of Bernie supporters said they would vote for Trump, down from 20% last month. Bernie has lost his chance to gain much from an endorsement of her. Now the big task is making sure the young voters get out to vote. PBO will be helpful in that regard.
As to Brexit, regardless of Cameron’s plans, the EU has too much at stake to allow the UK to drag its feet. The remaining countries will push hard to move this ahead quickly.
Perhaps the biggest issue with the Brexit vote is the amount of uncertainty it creates. I was laying in bed this morning thinking about the amount of unrest in the world and it is somewhat amazing. While we focus on the ME and Syria, in South America you have Venezuela and Brazil falling apart, the entire ME, numerous countries on the African continent, and now Europe. The only true stability is in North America and Australia and NZ. But that supports the need for stability here and I think most Americans will recognize that. Despite the controversies over Trump the last few months, I have held to the belief that the country that elected PBO twice by large margins will not elect a crazy. And I do think Clinton has learned from PBO. She is running a much better campaign this time around and is a much better candidate. Conversely, Trump continues to take most of his advice from the non-experts and it shows, which of course is why he would be so dangerous as president.
Hope everyone has a great day!
i do not think that any of the GOP candidates who could not defeat TRUMP….could defeat Hillary Clinton
It certainly seems that way…
Good Morning, TOD.
Chips has just given me permission to share with you all.
Her mum passed away. She was surrounded by family and love. It’s a tough time and Chips has a lot to deal with, so she’s not quite ready to come back.
Please send her as much love as you can because she needs it and it really helps.
Thank you.
So sorry, Chips.
May she rest in peace and may you find peace.
GM NW - much sadness for our wonderful Chips. May she always remember her Mum with love and be blessed because of what they were to each other. We are forever in love with our mothers - the only unconditional love that ever does exist.
Thank you for being here Nerdy - all you do is so much appreciated.
NW, I’m sorry to hear about Chip’s Mom.
I’m sorry to hear about Chipstick’s mom’s passing. May she rest in peace and may Chipsticks and her family find comfort in the knowledge that she is no longer suffering and may the wonderful memories of her mom remain in her heart. {{{{Chipsticks and Family}}}}
With deepest condolences, dearest Chips. May your Mum rest in peace. Bless!
I’m sorry to hear about your mom, Chips, our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Oh my gosh, I’m so sorry to hear this very sad news. What a heartbreak for Chips and her family.
Chips, you are always in our hearts, overflowing with love and appreciation. You’ve stood with us through thick and thin and now we are here to do what we can for you. Sending you tremendous amounts of love and strength, peace and tranquility. I know your Mum will continue to be so proud of you every single day. XOXOXOXO
Dearest Chips,
So sorry for your loss. Please take time to heal and find peace. May your mother rest in perfect peace. Take good care of yourself.
Thanks, Nerdy.
Prayers for Chips. May she and her family get through this difficult time.
So sorry to hear this news this morning…Chips, you are in my thoughts and prayers. I know this feeling that you have now after your mom’s passing. Please know that as the days, weeks, months go by, the ache will be less painful. I promise you, she is not gone, she is here with you still. Much love to you and your family. She lives on, in you. xoxox
Deepest condolences to our dear Chips and her family on the loss of her Mother.
Love and hugs to you all.
NW, a favor to ask. Would it be possible to have a thread dedicated just for Chips so our messages of condolence can all be in one place for her whenever she’s ready? Just a thought.
It hurts to hear this sad news about Chips’ loss of her beloved mother, but thanks for letting us know and please convey our warmest hugs to her.
My condolences to Chips and her family.
{{{{LOVE and LIGHT}}}} surrounds you my dear Chipsticks and your entire family on the loss of your precious mum. Your TOD family sends you our prayers as well as our virtual hugs.
Thanks Nerdy for sharing this update.
May Chips’ Mum rest in peace, and my deepest condolences to Chips and the rest of her family. May they find strength and peace at this difficult time.
Thanks for the update, NW! So sorry to hear of the death of Chip’s mom. At any age, speaking from experience, it is a grievous loss to lose your mother.
My love, prayers go to Chips and her family. I know how hard it is when you lose your mother. It is something you never quite get over. You learn how to live with it and go on. Sending her our love, prayers, strength and energy.
NW thank you for being here to take this worry off of Chips and to keep us going. We send you our love and thanks.
Chips,
My condolences to, and prayers for, you and your family.
my deepest condolences to Ms. Chips and her family;
may you find some comfort during this extremely difficult time.
I and many others are routing for you so that you can eventually find some peace
My heartfelt condolence…Ms Chips….praying that the Creator comforts you at this time…
Thank you for letting us know, Nerdy.
What is Bernie Sanders problem?
This guy is a piece of work, first he gets his hat handed to him and now he wants to dictate to Hillary how she should go about gaining his endorsement and the people that voted for him.
While Bernie continues to send mixed messages and refuses to outright concede and endorse HRC, it seems that many of his “supporters” have had enough and have moved on…to support Hillary Clinton…
“Donald Trump’s bad month just got worse, because Sanders backers just rallied to Clinton”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/26/donald-trumps-bad-month-just-got-worse-because-bernie-backers-just-rallied-to-clinton/?postshare=5341466946707104&tid=ss_tw
…we have some bad news for the Trump campaign. Sanders supporters aren’t just rallying around Clinton; they’re doing it rather quickly. And it’s a big reason Clinton just extended her lead over Trump into the double digits, 51 percent to 39 percent….
Last month, 20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election. This month, that figure is down to 8 percent.
the author is surprised that Hillary supporters were slow to back Barack Obama…saying it was understandable why some would vote for Mc Cain over the President because Hillary Clinton was more “moderate than Barack Obama…and John McCain was a “moderate” Republican….give me a break….folks just refuse to see racism as the the reason….tsk tsk tsk
You would have thought that after President Obama gave Sanders his day in the sun at the White House that he would have accepted that gesture and bowed out gracefully, but no, he still wants to piss in everyone’s cheerios.
frankly who cares?
Ignore him. HRC is moving forward on running for POTUS and attacking the republican nominee.
Most of us have moved on and eventually his faithful few will too.
“may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.” RIP to Chip’s mum and prayers for strength and consolation to all who loved her.
Good Morning Beloved Family!
Wishing you a Hopeful, Happy Sunday! ❤️
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Happy Sunday TODers!
Thank you, Nerdy!
I think that even if the platform included Bernie’s language *verbatim*, there would still be a problem with it for him and his supporters.
Exactly. There’s never enough.
gnite tod - may your sunday bring joy
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May Mama Chips rest in peace! I'd like to think her brother greeted her as soon as she crossed over, and that even now they are 'catching up' on family news. Love, comfort and peace be with you and your family as you mourn your mom's physical departure and celebrate her life of caring, love and practicality. Know that we TODobots are here for you now, and will be here for you if ever you need to share memories of MC. I will long remember she shared our concern for Pres O skipping up and down the steps of AF1.
{{{CC}}} May the God your mum loved and worshiped hold all of her loved ones up during this time of loss.
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My Dear Chips, please take comfort in the good times you shared. As much as it hurts, also take comfort in knowing that she is at rest. My condolences to you and your family. Blessings, I am sure you did all that you could. You are loved. RIP Mama Chips.
If some wonderful bt could help me out with those toons….
Look above…
A new post for Chip’s Mom.
https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/26/in-remembrance-of-chipss-mom/
Thank you very much, amk. You’re a good guy.
Huuummm…..
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244
Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has told the BBC that Holyrood could try to block the UK’s exit from the EU.
She was speaking following a referendum on Thursday which saw Britain vote by 52% to 48% to leave Europe.
However, in Scotland the picture was different with 62% backing Remain and 38% wanting to go.
SNP leader Ms Sturgeon said that “of course” she would ask MSPs to refuse to give their “legislative consent”.
This is very powerful:
p.s. Don’t read the comments. Full of Bernie stans who hate the DNC.
“Bernie stans” LOL!
You know, it really worries me how many idiots on the so-called left have lost their marbles. The comments there are that the DNC has refused St. Sanders’ $15 dollar wage in the final platform. NONE of that is true. But they’ve all worked themselves into a serious lather that it is. They’re addicted to being slighted so they can scream and feel important.
I am not so sure I buy that theory. If you for whatever reason think it is okay to scapegoat an entire race just because… then you are a racist. period.
Adults are perfectly capable to see a situation for what it is and choose whether or not to support it. Especially if the rationale is that everything that is wrong with me or my life is because of minorities. …nope…don’t buy it.
In 2016, willful ignorance is not an excuse.
Let’s all stay on this thread for chat and keep the condolences for Chips on the next.
Here’s the past week’s @Interior recap for your ‘passing along’ pleasure.
UGH UGH UGH