the moral high ground….

Spotted by Tally – a comment by ‘Tom’ at Steve Benen’s blog (here)

The predominately white progressive intelligentsia don’t see Obama clearly because of our racial blind spot. We don’t see the role of race in how he seems to understand himself and how other perceive him.

First of all, we think that he understands himself as one of us. A progressive activist, heir to the radical and New Left movements most of us were raised in. He is not; I think that he understands himself (and certainly his real base understands him) as the first African American President. We’re thinking Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. We should be thinking about Harold Washington, the first African American mayor of Chicago. Washington was elected and immediately faced a solid wall of opposition from most white aldermen in the city. Washington understood his role as breaking down that wall of opposition and assembling a governing majority, which he finally did after his re-election. Unfortunately, he died shortly thereafter. By the way, one of Washington’s political strategists was David Axelrod.

How does Obama break the iron unity of the GOP opposition to assemble a governing majority in the US Congress?

If we progressives were not blinded by our own assumption that our history is the only history, we might see how Obama may be seeing his situation.

White progressives often think that African American elected officials are politically naive. We will give far more credit to Cornel West, who has never been elected to anything, than to an elected state senator, or even the President of the United States. We think that Obama does not understand the nature of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell or Eric Cantor, as though he has not sat across the table from them. He doesn’t understand how mean they are, we think.

Obama acts entirely within the tradition of mainstream African American political strategy and tactics. The epitome of that tradition was the non-violence of the Civil Rights Movement, but goes back much further in time. It recognizes the inequality of power between whites and blacks. Number one: maintain your dignity. Number two: call your adversaries to the highest principles they hold. Number three: Seize the moral high ground and Number four: Win by winning over your adversaries, by revealing the contradiction between their own ideals and their actions. It is one way that a oppressed people struggle.

Obama has taken a seat at the negotiating table and said “There is no reason why we cannot work out solutions to our problems by acting like responsible adults. That is what people expect us to do and that is why we have entered into public service.” That is the moral high ground.

Honestly, I have been reminded more than once in the last few months of those brave college students sitting in at a Woolworth’s lunch counter, back in the day. Obama sits at that table, like they did at the counter. Boehner and McConnell and Cantor clown around, mugging for the camera, competing to ritually humiliate Obama, to dump ketchup on his head.

I don’t think those students got their sandwiches the first day, but they won in the end.

Obama is winning. Democrats are uniting behind him, although some white progressives think that they could do the job better. Independents are flocking to him. Even some Republicans are getting disgusted with their Washington leaders. Obama is not telling us about lack of seriousness of the Congressional GOP; he is showing us the vivid contrast between what we expect of our leaders and their behavior. The last two and half years have been a revelation of the essential conflicts in our society and politics.

If white progressives understood much about the politics of the African American struggle in the United States, we would see Obama in the context of that struggle and understand him better. And you don’t have to be African American to know something about the history of the African American struggle. The books and the testimony is there. It’s not all freedom songs. But you have to be convinced that it is something that can teach you something you don’t already know.

186 Responses to “the moral high ground….”

  1. 1 tally
    August 12, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    This is one of the many reasons I love and respect our POTUS.

    This needs to go viral. FB & Twitter, get ready!

    • August 12, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      As i said before Talley. This is sooo on point it’s scary. PBO and others who’ve been in the struggle, have been observing the “good ‘ole boys and girls for years. We know what they’ll do under all sorts of situations because the object of their emotions or lack of them.
      The sad part is that there will be some that will frame this so it fits in their “colored” box………No matter. Post racial ain’t here yet and won’t be until folks can find another focus for their bigotry.

      • August 12, 2011 at 7:16 pm

        Why does bigotry have to exist at all? Is it an inherent human condition?

        • August 12, 2011 at 8:15 pm

          Negative. That behavior is taught by parents, relatives, and friends.

        • 6 FTL
          August 12, 2011 at 8:56 pm

          Nope not a human condition. Just evil. That is why even though these people make me sick and I can’t wait for God to take care of them, I still feel sorry for them sometimes because they are lost and even though they get shown the right road they refuse to take it.

        • 7 jacquelineoboomer
          August 13, 2011 at 12:58 am

          maggy519 – Sometimes I think bigotry could be explained by anthropologists better than us. It’s the fear of someone different. It’s the fear of losing power to someone different. Like another caveman group coming over the ridge or something.

          And then I agree: it’s just evil.

          • August 13, 2011 at 1:05 pm

            jacqueline, I too think it is a very complicated issue. It is fear of someone different, but it is also a competition to get ahead of the other guy. Scarce resources is how we refer to this issue in Sociology. There is a limited amount of money and status available. The bigger the disparity between the have and have nots the more people fight to grab onto the ladder of success (whatever that means to each individual). At some point it becomes an issue of survival. Unfortunately it pits the have nots in a battle for their place at the table.

            It is evil, but if we can look at it logically, it helps to understand the cave man mentality.

            By the way jacqueline, nice to see you hear.

            • 9 jacquelineoboomer
              August 13, 2011 at 1:38 pm

              Well said, as usual, dorothyrissman! Logic is a much better word than evil, and I’ll try to stay away from the dark side! Great to be here with you.

    • 10 Jane_D
      August 13, 2011 at 2:51 am

      I agree, this is an excellent and truthful article. This is why the African American community have not left the President. We know he is the “Jackie Robinson” of politics. We knew that the republicans would let the country go down before they let the first Black President govern this country. The President and the First Lady knows what they are up against but the can not express it. Harold Washington was treated the same way by the legislature in Chicago. Thanks for the website.

  2. 11 Janelle
    August 12, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Thanks for posting this Chips….I recognized the President’s strategy early in the primaries. It definitely can be a nailbiting experience for supporters and even the First Lady has said she is sometimes nervous about proceeding this way but it usually works for him in the end. He’s patient and methodical and it brings out the crazy in opponents. It’s a long-term strategy that could work if the Democrats stuck together. Why would some progressives think he’s just “playing nice” or he’s naive? He’s from Chicago and very intelligent. You have to let people see, Independents included, what the Republican party has become. The President is not perfect but he is a great strategist. Unfortunately, some of the racism from his own party is preventing them from following his lead. The Dems will be in serious trouble after 2012 if they don’t follow the President’s lead.

    • 12 Janelle
      August 12, 2011 at 6:30 pm

      P.S. This is part of the President’s rope-a-dope strategy and I like it. You just can’t watch too much TV while it’s happening. He is a great campaigner. The pundits are going to love Perry’s entrance into the race for ratings sake (Tweety just love Perry). But just like Palin, the skeletons, racism and craziness will hit a fever pitch as well.

      • 13 tally
        August 12, 2011 at 6:56 pm


        • 14 prettyfoot58
          August 12, 2011 at 7:34 pm

          I would add that for folks to think that he is naive and that he doesn’t understand the likes of the Tp/Repubs or the treachery of West /Smiley/ or the veiled racism of the so-called Professional Left is stupid…

          and more….near the end of the civil rights movement…the young militants started to hold civil disobedience with disdain…they wanted to give as good as they got…and if that meant violence then so be it…they began to see King as weak…and ineffective…we see the same cries not….that the President…is not tough enough…

          Our President cannot afford to be thuggish….billigerent…intractible…

          as stated in the piece our President must always take the high ground…..be a concensus seeker……yesterday he called out the intractible ones…he was able to do so because the ground work had been laid for the American people to see for themselves….who is holding America back…

          The Debt ceiling debacle was a gift…..it showed the American people who is standing in the way of the recovery….

          no amount of speeches could have done what the Republicans have done to themselves…..

          so now the president…will stay focused….stay on point….and demand that Congress do it’s job..and pass the JOBS / PATENTS / INFRASTRUCTURE / TRADES bill…pending in the House….and once again…America will see who is standing in the way….

        • 15 HZ
          August 13, 2011 at 12:43 am

          I agree also. The ugly is usually attracted by the ugly. Never forget that. You can enter a room with grace or you can enter like a foolish man or woman with pride all over your being. Watch how Mr. Perry enters and then how he move around within that room that he enters. These people can’t touch one ounce of calmness, intellect, grace, compassion, humor, a gracious man to those he hugs, shake hands with, and just plain down to earth with sincere conversation. Just watch our President. He is not a phony person. That is one reason why I believe the littlest of the little children move towards him. he is that special gem of a person that you might meet once in a lifetime. I do not worship President Barack Obama, I just respect him very highly. I have met some very important people in my life, but this man is a dear gift like non other. God bless and give him more grace to make this journey.

      • 16 Sue in Minnesota
        August 13, 2011 at 11:22 am

        Include in the group we label rope-a-dopes, those that have hardened their perceptions, have preconceived attitudes that the Republican playbook is the only way to play the game, yet hold progressive or liberal views, as those who will come to reality the hard way. They will be convinced not through the process, but only in hindsight. I hope they enjoy the sucker punch, as they have refused to see it coming.

        Since the MSM likes to amplify and exploit this mental inflexibility and the propensity for Americans to need to win, the competitiveness that need inspires, and the conflict that insures, I think our best opportunity to blunt the influence of the MSM is to put most of or energy into directing traffic. Lets redirect people to the sources that provide reliable, reasonable and alternative view points to the mainstream pulp fiction. We don’t need to tell people what to think, we just need to recruit them, and point them in a different direction. We should be Randi Rhode’s, Steve Benen’s, TPoV, et, al biggest promoters. Pushing back on the media is still important, but I really think most of are energy should be enlisted in a more positive direction.

  3. 17 HZ
    August 12, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Thanks for posting this Chipsticks. Thanks also Tally for being such a great spotter. I read this today, this is why I do not worry about President Obama. He will make it because he knows what he doing. He is one man that really seem to be in total with his own core. Maybe the other Dems need to find their ‘core’ within, and stop laying all of their cowardness on the President. Do not lay it at his feet.

  4. 18 Obama Grandmama
    August 12, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    I am so glad to have read this post today as I have had that in mind all the times I hear the PL speaking as if he is this poor person that is out of his league or why doesn’t he see he can’t compromise with them? Those people are delegitimizing PBO’s intelligence and showing their own lack of understanding and historical perspective. I have thought of him like the first Black baseball player having to endure slurs and ridicule until the fans saw his brilliance. I also have wondered if another Dem was in the Presidency besides him if they could have endured the same oppositional level he has or if it would have still been there? I do think it would have been as strong as it is now due to the GOP and Corporations wanting power and control. I believe we are lucky PBO is half AA and has become used to dealing with this type of behavior because if anyone else had been faced with it with no background in patience we would really be making no headway. I do not believe that yelling in the oppositions faces makes for success. Look at Michele Bachmann who is bragging about not backing down ever. True she hasn’t and has made no progress at all in her endeavors. I just hope the public doe not stop supporting PBO and goes for the people and ideology that got us into the mess to start with as the GOP Debate shows they are still wanting to do all the same things that got us into the mess in the first place.

  5. 19 Bobfr
    August 12, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    “But you have to be convinced that it is something that can teach you something you donโ€™t already know.”

    Indeed. You have to have an open mind to learn anything.

    What has always fascinated me about President Obama is his innate mentoring skills including his ability to open people’s minds.

    And he is succeeding in doing just that with the exception of the groups in this Country overwhelmingly proven to be incapable of learning – the PL and the T-baggers and the newstainers who feed their every need for frenzy, hate and fear.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • 20 Chi
      August 12, 2011 at 7:59 pm

      You know Bob, I actually do think that even some of the President’s most hostile detractors recognize his rare and exceptional human qualities and gifts…

      It’s just that oftentimes, the base human responses take over especially when one is determined not to like another…

      • 21 EDP4BHO
        August 12, 2011 at 9:49 pm

        Chi, they do know, which is why now his character and intelligence is being questioned. This just falls right in line with all of the nasty, evil, wicked comments made about him over the internet in all areas. All of these people feed off each other like vermin……which in my estimation, they damn well are. I have no sympathy for them, and would not give an inch of trying to understand their “human” responses. Their venom is of satan, not God.

  6. 22 Anonymous
    August 12, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    O.T. Lighter moment at Ground Zero.

    • 23 EDP4BHO
      August 12, 2011 at 9:44 pm

      I guess 7 people there didn’t appreciate PBO getting a mass murderer. Now that just goes to prove the extreme racism in this country. I remember a conversation with a co-worker over the race issue, just before the 2008 campaign, and he asked me didn’t I think that racism is pretty much gone? We haven’t had this discussion since, and I don’t know if we ever will. He reads so he knows the deal. Poor guy, he’s Irish American, and I’m sure he knows what his people had to endure coming to this stolen country, but I don’t know quite how he feels about what the President is going through.

  7. 24 Doris
    August 12, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Thanks Tally and Chips. In that face, I see compassion and strength–the black experience. Thanks for sharing.

  8. 25 dotster
    August 12, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    This is good, many excellent points. I was just thinking—-Bill Clinton certainly had powerful opposition to him while he was in office, preposterous charges were being launched every day. There was definitely a conservative conglomerate who hated him with a passion. But the difference seems to me is that almost all of the Democratic Party stuck with him, supported him through very difficult times. And the media———so much has changed in that area. We no longer get any correction of misinformation, the media continues to treat every issue as he said/she said, each side has equal value. They promoted and gave credence to the tea party, never condemned all the obvious racism, the guns at Obama events, all the ridiculousness. Our msm has spent so much time defending poor brain-muddled Michele Bachman this past week. Every single anchor defended her against bad Newsweek who dared to show her as she often appears. And now I just heard Brian Williams on NBC Nightly News, the most popular of the network news programs, defending poor Michele from the submission question she got last night. Andrea Mitchell and Charlie Cook were brought on to lament Michele’s poor treatment also and to praise her. This was a question taken directly from Michele’s own words, that she as a Christian believes in being submissive to her husband, that he has made all the big decisions in her life. Contrast that with all the junk they have hurled against Obama—–he’s Kenyan, he’s anti-American, he’s a Muslim, his birth certificate is fake, thousands of death threats etc. etc.——and hardly a peep in defense. Almost nothing. Silence. No correcting the misinformation, no truthtelling about Obama, no defense of Obama. I give President Obama all the credit in the world for being this unbelievably remarkable human being, for the courage and determination to keep marching forward in spite of unprecedented oppostion and with little visible support from his own party and none from our media.

    • 26 Sue in Minnesota
      August 12, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      And he does it all in an honest and principled way. This guy is genuis, too good for the likes of us, but exactly what we need.

      I was so excited about Tom’s post today, wrote my typical overlong missive and proceeded to lose it. But everyone here has said what I tried to say, only better.

      The only thing I would add, is that if white privilege doesn’t wake up and recognizing those they have oppressed have taken that oppression and have constructively assimilated it into strengths, privilege is going to end up being kicked in their sanctimonious nasty asses. That my friends is Karma, and it may be along time coming but I am convinced it always delivers. God bless our outstanding President and all he fights for, and who he fights for.

  9. 27 Lize in San Francisco
    August 12, 2011 at 7:00 pm


    God bless ‘Tom.’ This is stuff that a lot of us need to think about, learn about, and remember.

  10. 28 tally
    August 12, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    We all need to be AT THE TABLE WITH THE POTUS.

  11. 29 ChristiMtl
    August 12, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Someone sent me that link earlier, When I read it, I got teary eyes. A moment of sadness.

    I got even angrier at the fauxgressives, the racists out there. The way they treat him.

    • 30 Sue in Minnesota
      August 12, 2011 at 10:42 pm

      ChristiMtl….I sympathize, I shed a lot of tears that are inspired by external forces and negative energy, and not things in my immediate enviornment. Sometimes my heart feels so burdened. But what always helps me is to refocus on everything that is so brilliant and good about our President. He is, brick by brick tearing done the facade, and exposing what needs attention and healing. Feel your sadness and let it flow, I am grateful for the kindness and empathy of hearts like yours, the world would be a better place if had more people like you in it.

      • 31 ChristiMtl
        August 12, 2011 at 11:35 pm

        What a nice thing to say Sue. Thank you so much. I can say the same about you, absolutely!

        And I love your comment, this part in particular:

        He is, brick by brick tearing done the facade, and exposing what needs attention and healing.

  12. 32 PoliticalJunkessa
    August 12, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Excellence. Truth. Perfection.

    Simply one of the most brilliant and insightful pieces I have ever read on Barack Obama. Thanks Tally and Chips. I would write more but I am on my pbone which is finally working with this website again, yay!

  13. 33 tally
    August 12, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Seriously guys, email/FB/Tweet this – it needs to go VIRAL!!!

  14. 34 carolyn
    August 12, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    He has always said two of his heroes are Martin Luther King and Gandhi. I think we are beginning to understand why. He IS showing up those jackass Republicans for the children they are. Even Independents and thinking Republicans (did I just say that?) are beginning to see it. The PL will be late to the table, but they always are. The Far right will never see it, but they hated the other two people also. I think the AA community sees his strength and understand. I came of age during the civil rights era, and remember the dignity of the young people in Little Rock, of Clara Luper and the students in OKC, of the marchers in Selma and other places, and how their dignity just magnified the horrendous actions of the white students and cops. That eventually got through the thick skulls of most people. This will too. For the first 8 years of this century, people equated leadership and strength with arrogance, swaggering and braggadocio. They’ll see that in Perry now, but if they look at his state they will see one rotting at the core.
    I don’t watch Brian any more. He panders, and Chuck rubs on my every nerve, as does Andrea. If you saw it, write him or tweet him. He desperately wants to be liked, and if he finds out he isn’t, he will make some amendments. In fact, I’ve discovered that being liked is what these broadcaster most want to be.
    We have been watching Scott Pelley since he started, and have been mostly pleased. He does his best, I think, to present news the oldfashioned way…factually. The questions he asks of field reporters are factual questions, not opinion questions. He doesn’t smirk or sneer, either. I have the feeling he wants to take CBS back to its glory days of excellent news. Let’s hope. I’ve noticed that CBSnews.com also has videos of good events. What I appreciate about Scott, is that if the President speaks, he shows the President speaking, not Chuck Todd sneering and telling us what the president said.
    I read this editorial aloud to my husband, and it made complete sense to him. People need to know history!

    • 35 Sue in Minnesota
      August 12, 2011 at 10:57 pm

      Excellent commentary. Thank you, it’s nice to think Pelley may succeed in bringing some integrity back to the news, or at least is trying.

      I completely agree with the premise that people are either refusing to see what is in front of them, or unwilling to accept the change. Accepting is the difficult part of change, think about it….what you resist persists. In theory it is simple. President Obama called all aboard , and the change train left the station the day he took office. Some of America got onboard, others will have to come to their senses but can get onboard down the line….the others, sadly are so lost they can’t even find the boarding station, they will never get onboard.

  15. 36 FTL
    August 12, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    I loved this comment and have felt this way ever since he became a U.S. Senator. I have always been the type that does not listen to people who have never been through any tough times and come out on the other side. Those people never understand why people go through things or why they act in the manner that they do, and they always think they know all the answers because they have all that they want. Most of the time this has been handed to them and they never had to work for it. If these people go through things they act a fool thinking alot of yelling and screaming and telling lies will get them what they want. Then when they loose the other person definantly had to do something under handed because they did more with less than what they had. So yes President Obama will win and that means we alll will win.

    P.S. When I talk about people who have been through alot I mean people of all races, nationalities and colors. That is why President Obama’s supporters are so diverse. They understand that things take time and anything worth having will never be just handed to you.

    • 37 prettyfoot58
      August 12, 2011 at 7:46 pm

      ~They understand that things take time and anything worth having will never be just handed to you~

      they have to be Fought for….


  16. 38 Chi
    August 12, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    This is so spot on…

    That something this evident has to be articulated for the progressive crowd is not only mind blowing, but very telling…

    • 39 jacquelineoboomer
      August 12, 2011 at 10:38 pm

      Chi – You think you’re surprised … I recall during the campaign for the 2008 election being shocked beyond belief that SO MANY DEMOCRATS were bigots. I’m in my 60s and I’m white and all I could ask myself then was, “Where the hell have you been?” I try never to hang with bigots, and the little happy shell I had built for myself in my personal life was cracked forever. I’m just one person, but I was so heartbroken when I opened my eyes. Which is why I’ll never forgive Bill Clinton for his S.C./Jesse Jackson comment. That was around the time I knew you had to be real careful who you trusted in the public eye, because some of them were hiding their very souls from us.

      I’m about as joyous as I can be that Barack Obama is our President, and I just KNOW we’ll get him re-elected. He’s the best President in my lifetime.

      • August 12, 2011 at 11:26 pm

        Oh J O’B I know exactly what you are saying. We are around the same age and got sandbagged at the same time. I too am white and was totally surprised by the democrats that were bigots. I am a registered Democrat but I am not one — I am an Obamacrat plain and simple. I thank God every single day that President Obama is our President and that enough people saw him the way we did. I have no regrets that I put my money on this wonderful man and he has paid off big time. Just when I feel I could not love this man any more than I do, I find myself overwhelmed with love and pride.

        • 41 Sue in Minnesota
          August 13, 2011 at 3:30 am

          Another, white Obamacrat, that was sandbagged too. Although a very disturbing awareness, I am glad that I was awakened. This whole political engagement for me has been eye pealing…..I thought almost everybody was nice, and kind, and got along, and respected differences and common purpose. I also thought everyone saw value in learning and traveling, especially outside of the country, and saw benefit in understanding other people, other cultures, other lifestyles. I had no idea of the band of ‘Christian’ crazy people that distorted the teachings of the Bible, and were possessed with hateful, and demeaning and IMO, very unchristian like attitudes. I didn’t know that the divisions in our country were so deep and so fueled with hatred. I didn’t know a bitch named Sarah Palin would stir the crazies, and despite being clearly unprepared, and intellectually not suited to the position of VP, be annointed America’s most fascinating creature.
          I did not know that our MSM was total story telling and trash. But this is only the beginning of a very long list of things I assumed to be when in fact they were not. Somedays I think why do I torture myself with politics, it’s hard, it’s contentious, it’s frustrating and it will slap the delusions out of you….hard. But President Obama has me hooked, and when you see yourself as always part of and responsible to something much bigger, it is really hard to try to ignore that.

          • 42 jacquelineoboomer
            August 13, 2011 at 1:32 pm

            Jackie 4 Obama and Sue in Minnesota – You both have me breathless and teary-eyed with your comments. Sue – I, too, have crashed and burned politically a couple of times since 2007, but just had to “keep going” (as my Mother used to say!) because of President Obama. He’s almost like a second son to me (and to so many others of my age group), and you don’t give up on family! Even though all of us here have been to the valley and experienced the low points, we just keep climbing back up to help him get re-elected and get his agenda through the legislative process. I’m hooked, too.

            Off to try to call Rep. Nadler of NY for what he said against PBO on MSNBC yesterday!

  17. 43 utaustinliberal
    August 12, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    This commentary by Tom says it all. It’s full of so much truth that it just breaks my heart. It’s the black tax. As an African American I see it everyday and have been victim to it. It’s the feeling that no matter what you do, no matter how hard you work, no matter how much you bleed, sweat, and work your fingers to the bone, in some white peoples eyes; conservative and progressive alike, you will never ever be good enough. It’s the same sentiment Bill Clinton expressed during the primary; that a few decades ago, then candidate Obama wouldn’t be fit to sit at the table with them. He would only be fit to serve them. Barack Obama is the President of the United States and some people despite their political stripes can never get over that. It is and will forever be a hard pill for them to swallow; because they can’t fathom how a black person could be so smart, so poised, and a wonderful inspirational leader to boot. This is simply what a lot of black people have to live with everyday even though they live in conservative or liberal states. We’re just seeing it on a more concentrated national focus.

    • 44 COS
      August 12, 2011 at 8:08 pm

      I am in total agreement with you utaustinliberal. I grew up in Arkansas and I understand. When I saw PBO at the 2004 Democratic convention, I was praying that he ran for president and I vowed that I would support him through thick and thin and I have never waivered. I am so proud that he is our president at this moment in history. I really wish that everyone would take the time to understand what a gem we have.

      It appears that Rick Perry is the new media darling, but MSM need to listen to Rachel Maddow and let folks know who Rick Perry hang out with before it is to late. Remember how Tweety and all of the media looped the Wright story 24/7 for weeks. This guy deserves the same type of scrutiny.


    • 47 ChristiMtl
      August 12, 2011 at 8:08 pm

      It’s sickens me to no end. And you know it’s everywhere, not only in the States. Here in Canada as well, and we’re suppose to be so much more tolerant.

      When President Obama got elected, I was so happy, I was calling all my friends, family. I was crying of joy.

      I called my best friend Cynthia to share my joy. One of her brother was visiting and he picked up the phone, I said to him. ” Did you see, Barack Obama was elected, I’m so happy!!!”

      He said to me….yea not bad for a n*******

      I gave him a piece of my mind over the phone.

      That’s just one example of the things I heard since then. I have ZERO tolerance for racists. I just want to vomit.

      One of my aunt said to me months ago (she had and apartment to rent in her duplex, upstairs), : Well if I can’t find anyone, it’s going to stay empty because I’m not renting it to a n*******.

      This one hurt because I never in a million years thought she was a racist. I told her she was ignorant and cruel and didn’t speak to her since, and won’t.

    • 50 FTL
      August 12, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      I definantly agree with you ut. What they don’t realize is that if they do not stop this crazy mess that this country will fall. The reason it will fall is because they look at the one they need to trust and who is willing to take the bumps and bruises is the one who can get them out of the mess. They refuse to believe that God gave President Obama the abilities to do this not Hillary Clinton and definantly not those ignorant ass repugs. Also this may be ot but do these fools not realize that we will go through the same mess again if Hillary Clinton were elected. See they have thrown all that they have at President Obama. I do feel that things are getting better and people are seeing the truth. If Hillary gets in they will start this shit all over again and nothing will get done period. Then they will say see Democrats can’t doing anything we need the power and alot of fools will listen. We know their games against President Obama he has disproven their lies while still getting shit done. Now we just need to help him build on the foundation he has laid.

  18. August 12, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    I’m with this President 100%.

  19. 53 GGail
    August 12, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    I first read this when edp4bho posted the link this morning at 10:34am on the “an ongoing project”. I congratulate Tom for a fine piece and I thank edp4bho for first bringing it to my attention.

    • 54 EDP4BHO
      August 12, 2011 at 10:30 pm

      You’re welcome ggail. A number of us were on the same page today. We’re a great team, now if we could just get together in person to greet not so kindly those congress critters as they return from their undeserved vacation spreading lies, we’d really be smokin. ๐Ÿ˜€

      • 55 GGail
        August 12, 2011 at 10:48 pm

        You’re very welcome edp4bho! Yes, we are on a common thread – and I’m happy that we are! We do need to do something like that group did at Boehner’s office. I bet it they got noticed by him and I’m sure it spread to other Repugs. Should have sent shivers of dread through them. It was organized by Move On.org.

  20. August 12, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    GOD is still in control and makes no mistakes!

  21. August 12, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    I am watching ABC right now and am delighted they are covering the President’s plan to rent foreclosed houses, they are also talking about gas prices going down.

    However my favorite story from ABC is currently the headline on the website.

    RICH ROMNEY: Candidate Worth as Much as $250 Million
    When you click on the link the headline changes (bummer I just love the term Rich Romney)


  22. 60 JoJothecat
    August 12, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    I remember when Tom Bradley became the first (and only) Black mayor of Los Angeles ( I was a teen), he too had to build a relationship with the white builders and shakers of Los Angeles,CA. He was one of the longest elected mayors and very respected by most of the people of all races. I see the same for PBO too having to walk a thin line. I hear the white male professional left and callers wondering why PBO won’t do things like FDR or want to compare him to other “white” presidents. They have no clue.

    • August 12, 2011 at 9:37 pm

      Best mayor in my lifetime.

      • 62 HZ
        August 13, 2011 at 12:50 am

        Yes, he was Tally. My wonderful neighbor(who is like a big brother to me) wife worked as a personal assistant to Mayor Tom Braadley. Great mayor.

    • 63 GGail
      August 12, 2011 at 9:40 pm

      I like what you said JoJo – “THEY HAVE NO CLUE”. Truer words were never spoken. That’s why I thanked Tom – he at least took the time to see it from ALL sides.

    • 64 Sue in Minnesota
      August 12, 2011 at 11:06 pm

      They keep demanding he play by the Republican play book…..which I find insane. They voted for change but are expecting the same.
      They haven’t figured out that President Obama brought his own playbook….it’s a new game, strange so many haven’t caught on. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

  23. 68 LYNND
    August 12, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    This poster gets it. Unfortunately the the left wing fringe, and their stenographers do not.

  24. 69 halo
    August 12, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Best comment I ever read.

  25. 71 COS
    August 12, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    This is a little OT. but I am watching the portion of Rachel’s show where she is praising Mark Hatfield for bucking his own party and standing up for what he thought was right, no matter what. It sure would be nice if she gave PBO the same couteousy when he does something that she doesn’t agree with. She even praised Chris Christie for standing up for the Muslim judge. I see double standards here.

    • 72 jacquelineoboomer
      August 12, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      COS – I see (virtual) dead people when I watch MSNBC. Only allow myself up to a half hour a week, if something “big” is up! Those wannabe journalists will go to the dark side faster than anybody.

    • 73 ChristiMtl
      August 12, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      I keep going at it, how people are so duped by MSNBC thinking they are left leaning. They are worst than Fox because people take them more seriously. it’s not because a few hosts go after the GOP from time to time that they are in our corner.

      I was thinking earlier and I tweeted who are the regular ”analysts” on MSNBC, the ones I could think of.

      Ed Rendell, Joan Walsh, Robert Reich, Howard Fineman, Ron Christie, Pat Buchanan, Micheal Steele, Mark Halperin, Chuck Todd (often as ”analyst” on Hardball) Jonathan Alter who praised Drew Westen piece of trash, and on and on..

      It’s either Pumas/or angry progressives who always whine or bash the President or Repug.

      Who else? And who are the guests? Huffington, Bill Maher, , and so on.

      Where the hell are the President’s supporters? Where is his base? People like Randy Rhodes for example, How come it’s not represented on the pretend left leaning network?
      I swear they are worst than FOX because they get a lot of ”progressives” angry at the President by continuously bashing him, by pretending that their so called analysts or guests represent the base.
      It’s like the madness of the GOP doesn’t exist.

      • 74 EDP4BHO
        August 12, 2011 at 10:56 pm

        I’m reading The Promise by Jonathan Alter. Once I get through with it, I shall be mailing it to him with a piece of my mind. I can afford to lose the cost as long as I get the satisfaction of telling him what a dirt bag he turned out to be.

        • 75 ChristiMtl
          August 12, 2011 at 11:04 pm

          I forget Katrina Vaden Heuvel as a regular, another ‘,disappointed” progressive.

          Good for you ! What a great idea.

          All the ones I used to like or admired turned out to be fakes, frauds. They are heartless because they know they are helping the far-right by constantly bashing the President, blaming him for everything ,always focusing just on him,, and they know they are responsible for the 2010 election, especially Ed Shultz telling people not to vote.

          They are the left version of the T-party and should be treated as such. They too see compromise as treason.

        • 77 COS
          August 12, 2011 at 11:05 pm

          I have The Promise EDP but I have not had a chance to read it. I thought it would be a fair book. I always thought Alter would tell the truth.
          What don’t you like about the book?

          • 78 Sue in Minnesota
            August 12, 2011 at 11:11 pm

            I liked the book, is it your impression that Jonathon Alter has altered his positions re Barack Obama, or do you think he is influenced by the hyperbolic nature of the media he works in? I hope you share your reactions to the book.

            • 79 HZ
              August 13, 2011 at 12:29 am

              COS, it is a great book. You will come away with a fair read. Alter is a good researcher with his books. I think that he is fair. Sometimes when you see him on the different shows on MSNBC he will give it fair, but I find that the way the question is asked is unfair from the beginning when it applies to President Obama. But try it. I think you will come away with something good to keep with you. I am reading two about him now.”The Obamas ” by Peter Firstbrook. Others I found very interesting are: The Audacity To Win by David Plouffe. Great read. Other very good reads: ‘Revival’.Richard Wolffe; The Bridge, David Reminick, and one of my most favorites yet is ‘Reading Obama’ by James Kloppenberg(excellent) Just a few. Hope that I did not bore you COS. Have an enjoyable time. Sue is right in her assessment of The Promise. Enjoy your reading.

              • 80 Anonymous
                August 13, 2011 at 1:28 am

                Thanks hz. I have all of these in my library’ but I am way behind on my reading. I have pbo books on cd and audio. I will start catching up on my reading with alter’s book. Thank again.

              • 81 sam uk obama supporter
                August 13, 2011 at 5:08 am

                I am also in the middle of reading ‘The Promise’ and so far I am really enjoying it. I have read many books written about President Obama, some good others not so good but the best by far are those he wrote himself. i haven’t read ‘Reading Obama’ yet but will try to get hold of it on Amazon.

                • 82 HZ
                  August 13, 2011 at 2:39 pm

                  Hi Sam. Good to read your beautiful comments yesterday. I hope that you will find time to do some more writing on your book. I also pray that things are a little calmner for you and your family and friends there in the UK. Find a quiet place to write and listen to some good music and try to focus so you can do your writing.
                  Speaking of writing, I think you will enjoy the one book about President Obama: ‘ Reading Obama’ by James T. Kloppenberg. An excellent read. Try to get it, if you can.

                  I hope that you will have a beautiful and relaxing day to write and do some of the things that will give you peace and joy. Prayers and good thoughts are coming your way from your TOD family here. I love you back very much, HZ

      • 83 prettyfoot58
        August 13, 2011 at 6:55 am

        I am beginning to see…the so -called Professional Left and the TP/Repubs as two sides of the same coin…..with the same purpose….the defeat of the President and the distortion of his message….

    • 84 HZ
      August 13, 2011 at 12:58 am

      Rachel can never diminish President Barack Obama’s core. I do not watch her anymore. I do not like it when she lied on the President and has never apologized on her show where she made the lie. I have no respect for her. I am not angry, but I think it is very easy to apologize to the President when you know that you lied. But President Obama will continue to be well respected by people all around the world of whom some of us will never meet. Goodness finds goodness.

      • 85 jacquelineoboomer
        August 13, 2011 at 1:09 am

        HZ – I agree with everything you said. I never watch Rachel anymore, either. Or most of the rest on MSNBC. I’ll never forget the look on Rachel’s face on election night when Barack Obama became President of the United States. She’s a PUMA to her core. Also, I think – although highly intelligent – she is quite immature. It’s not an immaturity that will go away as she gets older – it seems to be more that she’s in arrested development or something and plans to stay there (if you can follow that). It’s a shame, because she would have been a fine Democratic spokesperson disguised as a cable news host.

        • 86 Sue in Minnesota
          August 13, 2011 at 3:03 am

          I agree she is emotionally immature. Although I hold out hope that she will be willing to recognize in herself that she both needs and is capable of raising her emotional IQ. She also is very young. She is extremely competitve, and seems very confident in herself , although strengths, they can at the same time be weaknesses….I could see them getting in her way. I don’t watch her anymore……lies are even harder for me to tolerate from those I have trusted. Dashed expectations and a sense of betrayal made me hit the remote. I actually told Comcast that she was the straw that broke this camels back, and that there was no honest political programming on cable so we were terminating our contract. I have to admit, I loved pulling the plug.

    • 87 Sue in Minnesota
      August 13, 2011 at 2:46 am

      I didn’t see that segment, but standing up for what is right doesn’t always get things done. I am glad our President is a pragmatist and willing to keep moving things along. Chris Christie was right in the essence of his message, but he was inartful in how he delivered it.
      Double standard would apply to President Obama if he spoke so harshly….guaran-damn-tee it. We need to keep pushing against the hypocrisy. And they can stop with the false meme that President Obama in his eloquent manner of speaking, is weak. Listen to what he is saying, substance is most important but style enhances it. President Obama has both bases covered.

      • 88 Obama Grandmama
        August 13, 2011 at 12:40 pm

        Sometimes I wonder if the need by the PL and Right for the President to stand up to them, not to shrink away from conflict, and not to back down has to do with our Country’s love of violence? The movies, tv shows, books, computer games and so on glamorize violence and taking the law into your own hands. The art and necessity of compromise in politics which our Country was built on has been lost in this love of wanting a showdown.

        • 89 Sue in Minnesota
          August 13, 2011 at 4:13 pm

          I think it has everything to do with the culture of winning. In my 40’s I learned how to dispute differences in my personal relationship with the help of a counselor. I had to let go of the need to win, and I had to help my boyfriend see that he needed to the same if we were to resolve the things that were running interference with a smooth and loving relationship. It was amazing how that impacted favorably our relationship. We broke up amicably 10 years later because I felt we had come to value very different things. I also think my emotional maturity grew and his stalled. I haven’t looked back, but I certainly have no regrets, and know I benefitted from valuable life lessons.

          People that need to win quickly lose sight of what is in front of them, ultimately the win becomes more important than effective resolution.

  26. 90 jacquelineoboomer
    August 12, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Goodness gracious. This Moral High Ground comment is one of the best little pieces of writing I’ve seen yet. Understanding Obama 101! This should be printed on the back of all voter registration cards for 2012. And on the masthead of every political website and newspaper around the country. And read as an “Emergency Alert” on the teevee and radio. (Too much? )

    I just love it.

    • 91 COS
      August 12, 2011 at 10:37 pm

      Hey Ms Oboomer. Howz it going? Wouldn’t it be nice if this could be printed on all 2012 voter registration cards. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 92 jacquelineoboomer
        August 12, 2011 at 10:41 pm

        Hello, COS! It’s a powerful piece. I’m sure a bunch of people have seen it, since it was posted, but – yes – it needs to be in everybody’s hot little hands! ๐Ÿ™‚

  27. August 12, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Everyone should print this post, and MAIL / email it to their congresspeeps, and every local paper.

  28. 96 COS
    August 12, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Good one by Booman.

    Why Elect a Do-Nothing President?

    by BooMan
    Fri Aug 12th, 2011 at 06:28:43 PM EST

    I really don’t pay much attention to polls about issues. I only trust polls where there is some accountability moment, like actual election numbers. And I only trust pollsters who have a good track record and don’t monkey around early in campaign season trying to boost one side or the other. Yet, I can’t remember ever seeing a poll where Medicare and Social Security were unpopular, even among Republicans. So, Rick Perry isn’t going to win a lot of fans by saying that our prized retirement programs are unconstitutional. “Elect me, and I’ll return your Medicare to the States!’ doesn’t seem like a winning slogan.
    The rise of the Tenthers is a bizarre development. It’s an especially odd stance to take for a presidential candidate. Why? Because it’s like interviewing for a job and telling your prospective boss that you’ll be happy to be employed but you plan on eliminating almost all your job responsibilities as soon as you’re hired. “I’ll still file an annual report, but the rest of it will be handled by contractors.”

    He’s running to be a Do-Nothing president.

  29. 97 jacquelineoboomer
    August 12, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Think it was on MSNBC where I saw Rep. Jerry Nadler of NY today, opening his remarks with a scowl and something like “President Obama has spent all this time on debt ceiling debates and not on jobs.”


    Democrats eating their own, again. How is this helpful in any way? How can President Obama be blamed for the debt ceiling fiasco – the pseudo crisis brought on by the Republicans?

    Nadler’s a Democrat!

    *shakes head*

    Off to email Nadler, who has surely lost his perspective (if not his mind) this close to the 2012 election.

    • 98 HZ
      August 12, 2011 at 11:42 pm

      Hi Jacquelineoboomer, if you can’t get through with an e mail, here is his number: 202- 225-5635. I could not because not in his district and they would not take my zip. I will not stop until I speak with someone. He is probably back in NY now. He was awful, and I did not appreciate his comments and his bashing of the President. Will do my part.

      • 99 Anonymous
        August 13, 2011 at 12:26 am

        HZ – You are right – I couldn’t get through on his website (I’m from Illinois). Will definitely call his office. Thanks for the phone #, since I hadn’t gotten to my next step yet.

    • August 12, 2011 at 11:58 pm

      What in the world is wrong with these people? Have they lost their minds? What is Nadler doing about jobs? I’d like to hear how he would have handled that ridiculous debt ceiling crisis. I swear, it’s beyond insane what these Democrats are doing. It’s not remotely constructive criticism. WHY won’t anyone stand up for him? There’s a bashfest going on and all they seem to be able to do is jump on the bandwagon. I’ve never seen anything like it. It disgusts me. I’m stepping off after PBO leaves office. I’ve had it with these gutless self-absorbed jerks.

      • 101 jacquelineoboomer
        August 13, 2011 at 12:40 am

        meta – I couldn’t get through to Nadler (will call his office – thanks, HZ) but I mentioned in my original email to him that he should THINK ABOUT HIS OWN SHORTCOMINGS and PROMISE TO DO BETTER. I’m with you – I will force myself to hang in there through President Obama’s entire next term, then I’m off the political track.

        • August 13, 2011 at 12:49 am

          I realize I’m spoiled because Nancy Pelosi is my Rep. She is a fighter, a very tough and very intelligent fighter. And she is loyal. She may not be ecstatic about the process and she may not always rave about every single outcome, but she never belittles the President. They work hard together and they share the same values. She respects him and they share an affection for one another. She will never do anything to undermine him. She has class. She is a Democrat to the core.

      • August 13, 2011 at 1:19 am

        Meta, I totally understand how you feel about stepping off after PBO leaves office. In 2017 that is Meta. I have only seen and heard one Dem stand up on the Senate floor and plain and simple, and said the truth. That was Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island. He spelled it out, all of it. I wish I could find it. It was on S-SPAN. He did not leave one rock unturn. It was a loving and true friend speaking the truth that every American needed to hear. I cried because it was so powerful. Senator Whitehouse stood up and stood up like a man and true person with his compass in the right direction that day.

        • August 13, 2011 at 10:08 am

          I do admire Sen. Whitehouse very much. He does always seem to be truthful. I was disappointed when he started out in HRC’s camp but he has not been undignified toward PBO to my knowledge. And he is always really, really terrific in hearings and panels.

        • 107 Sue in Minnesota
          August 13, 2011 at 4:15 pm

          That was 2009, March or April. I used to have the speech bookmarked. He called it for what so much of it is …racism. Whitehouse was brilliant.

      • 108 prettyfoot58
        August 13, 2011 at 6:59 am

        The Rev AL…called him out…asking him what bills were available ….what was he was working on…what about the JOBs/Infrastructure Bill…languiinshing in the house….why didn’t he bring that up

  30. August 12, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Evening friends, Have to share this. My Republican hubby and I were returning from a baseball game tonight and I was reading the comments above (had already read Tom’s comment.) The one by utliberal just struck me so….it is SO MUCH like what an AA friend of mine here said to me months ago. I finally asked if I could share it with him. I did….then read him the whole comment by Tom. We talked all the way home and for a few minutes after we got here. He continues to INSIST his problem with PO has NOTHING to do with race…….”It is his policies.” It is mainly “Obamacare”…..You think we are broke now. Just wait, Obamacare will bankrupt this country.” I’ve asked him what policies are SO awful and SO FAR out there that they will “totally destroy our country.” (his words) He never goes beyond Obamacare…..never names another policy. Tonight he repeatedly compared what is being done to PO as being NO different than what was done and said to /about GWB. He truly sees no difference. I asked if any president has had to show his birth certificate and he said no, but why couldn’t anyone find any info about his college years….none of his papers, etc. I was speechless for a few seconds. I literally was FLOORED that he believes that garbage. I told him that in the books I’ve read about him, especially The Promise, there is lots of details about all his college years……from his professors, his fellow students, his work at HLR. I said that the info there, but a person has to be willing and open to finding it and reading it. Oh, he also said that he is “in over his head and totally unprepared for this job.” Translation: He’s black so he’s not smart enough to be President of the United States. One of the last things I reminded him of before our discussion ended was that he is NO different than our bi-racial granddaughter and how would he feel if she were disrespected, de-legitimized and hated like PO is. He didn’t answer that question. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    Thanks for listening, friends. He is in total denial that race has not one tiny thing to do with how he feels about PO. I told him that.

    • August 12, 2011 at 11:24 pm

      Have you showed him the CBO report on how Obamacare will save MILLIONS??? That it’s going to put the Health Insurance Cartels OUT OF BUSINESS when the no-profits come on line in 2014 and will offer BETTER plans for LESS, then will merge across state lines to be able to offer larger risk pools then eventually will morph into SINGLE FUCKING PAYER????

      My day gig is an office manager for an insurance agency. They’ve greeded themselves out of business, and I see their evil EVERY FUCKING DAY. (the Health Care industry) They’re paying the GOP MILLIONS to get elected so they can overturn the ACA.

      Tell your hubby he can ask me a question.

      • August 12, 2011 at 11:38 pm

        I did tell him that CBO report came out last week and his response was “Yeah, sure!” Can you provide a link or links with some good, factual info that I could share with him. And, that single payer you mentioned….last time we had this discussion (before tonight), he said this reform will lead to single payer and that “will destroy this country and he (and the Dems) are only doing it to get votes and win elections.” Cynic? Yes!!!! One question I asked him tonight when he was comparing treatment of GWB and PO was: So do I understand that you think every problem we have now, esp. debt/deficit began in January of 2009 and that GB had nothing to do with it? I then pointed out the wars and Medicare Part D and didn’t pay for them and they were never on budget. He actually agreed those things were wrong. He always brings up how GWB was treated and he always brings up that Congress has not passed a budget since PO has been in office. I need help formulating a GOOD answer for this. Help, Tally!

        • August 12, 2011 at 11:55 pm

          Tnmtngirl, have you tried directed him to Whitehouse.gov to see what PO has actually done? Might help. Also ask him always with”Why do you say that?” What proof do you have for that statement? What would you want him to do in this situation? Have him be specific. Keep links stored so you can pull them up to show him. I always ask my friends or famiy, ” And how will that policy destroy the country, name one thing for me.” How about Doing it to win elections? What staying up most of the night just to win elections? Who needs what Bush left him and be happy about it. Tell him PO would have to be crazy to do that. Yes, they were wrong, but how do you expect PO to take care of it now that he is President? Tell him to watch C-SPAN to see how these fool and clowns held up everything with their obstructions. Always ask direct questions back. Ask him to give you specifics. Then show him the facts. Keep your file(if you have the time) updated on issues. Divide your files into a format that is on Whitehouse.gov Hope this will help some. Do not give up. Ask him to give you specifics when the Congress stood on the floor and just saaid NO to everything that was presented by the other side. Be specific with him and ask the same from him.

        • August 13, 2011 at 12:01 am

          CBO: Repeal of ACA Will Explode Future Deficits

          We’ll ALWAYS have private health care insurance for those who want to spend the money, just like Europe does, (France has the best HC ON EARTH.)

          Just google CBO ACA and you’ll find a ton of links.

          • August 13, 2011 at 12:57 am

            Thanks, Tally and HZ. I do have lots of files……things I have printed and they are labeled and organized. He also sees the spiral notebook I keep by my computer with ALL KINDS of info, links, titles of articles or other bits of data I hear or read. He sees that lots of it is highlighted. HZ, sometimes when we are discussing this whole subject, I will ask specific questions…..sometimes even same question two or three times. He does the typical R maneuver–avoid the question and/or change the subject by asking me a question. I am fairly sure if I handed him a particular piece of info he wouldn’t read it ….he may skim over it, but not seriously read it. We have gotten to the point when we do have these discussions, there’s not voices raised….it is more reasonable.

            Another thing he said tonight was that PO is NO leader. If he was, he would have really lead those first two years when he had Congress. I asked him if he knew how many bills were passed in the House and died in the Senate? He sarcastically said, “Sure, I have that number right at my finger tips.” I gave him ballpark figure and then talked about the filibuster and R’s blocking everything. He repeated that he had 60 votes and the reason all 60 wouldn’t vote with him was that he was “ramming things through and not building consensus” — therefore he’s not able to lead–“ramming things through”–we know where he heard that. Yes, he listens to Fox, but not much. Very seldom here at home and seldom in the car. I do know he gets all the Newsmax emails and emails from a number of other right-wing groups. That came up too when I told him the info was available (about PO’s college years) if one was open to reading it and not just listening to Fox. He said, “How do you know what Fox says? You don’t listen to them.” I said that I hear plenty of stuff from there so his reply was, “So you only hear short comments/quotes that are taken out of context.”

            Especially on the subject of politics and R’s always being right, he is exactly the authoritarian that John Dean describes in his books. Even if he sat and read all the info (mostly FACTS, not opinion) that I have, I doubt if he would change his mind. Maybe some on some topics, but not PO. He said right after he was elected that he felt he would destroy our country. At that time, he was listening to Fox and Hannity, etc. a lot more. Yes, the does parrot the talking points real well. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

            Thanks, friends. More to come, I’m sure. I’m going to try to go to sleep, but feel it won’t happen. Later……….

            • August 13, 2011 at 3:48 am

              tnmtngirl, May the good Lord give you the strength, because I couldn’t deal with it. As long as you come to me with facts, we can discuss things, but when you come to me with crap you heard from Fox, or right wing radio, I wouldn’t discuss it.

            • 118 Tally
              August 13, 2011 at 1:37 pm



              We also NEVER had a Super Majority in the House, which is WHY all those bills got killed. PRINT THAT GRAPHIC at that link AND MAKE HIM SEE IT.

              This is one of the biggest LIES that piss me off the MOST. NEVER 60 VOTES NOT EVER!!!!!! And that is OUR FAULT.

              The fact is, we need to send a minimum of 65 in 2012, and this needs to be one of our MAIN fights – along with fighting voter supression etc etc etc…. FUCK!!! It’s too early on CATURDAY to be this pissed off!!! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


        • August 13, 2011 at 12:01 am

          Does your husband watch Fox News? Does he listen to RW radio? Because he parrots all of the RW talking points that are LIES! Lord, I don’t see how you do it. My husband is a Dem, and i dont think I could put up him if he were GOP.

          • 120 Sue in Minnesota
            August 13, 2011 at 3:49 am

            I could easily resort to insulting your husband if i was in his company. He is simply being a parrot. Don’t try to convince him, but keep talking….you have far more knowledge than he does which is evidenced by his ‘talking point’ responses.

        • 121 Sue in Minnesota
          August 13, 2011 at 2:22 am

          Why don’t you steer him to conservative voices that are willing to analyze President Obama with reason and fairness. Andrew Sullivan, some of the writers at the Atlantic. Even Alan Simpson as interviewed on LOD show was very reasonable and supportive of the President.

          Are you and your husband financially secure? Do you have good health care insurance through your employers? What if you lost your jobs? t What if your employer discontinued your health insurance? Would you be able to afford insurance on the open market? What about the costs to our society if only the very few can afford medical treatment, expand that idea as far as you can…that has all kinds of negative implications. Something I always find curious is those amongst us that seem to write off problems as being beyond our abilities to solve. There are always many potential solutions to a problem, but the very worst solution is to do nothing at all.

          Do you know anyone that has had serious illness and had great difficulty meeting their medical expenses? Sometimes understanding real life situations can help to overcome the ingrained political attitudes that many Americans have attached themselves to. In my own family we have mental illness, Rhetts Syndrome, Childhood Neuroblastoma/ bone marrow transplant, cornea transplant, liver cancer,back surgery, not to mention broken bones, births, strokes, hysterectomies, and on and on….now that I look at it we work so that we can afford our doctor bills, I wonder what the grand total is, and in most cases we have had insurance. (wow, looks like we have a lot of defective genes in our pool :shock:), I can tell you of the enormous expense and the limitations and hardships these medical expenses can and do create, and the stresses it brings to family dynamics. We are the richest country in the world and yet so many of our people can not afford medical care. My Mother always would remind us that health is the crown a rich man wears that only the poor can see. And then she would add that what she was referring to had nothing to with money and everything to do with our greatest asset….our health.

          It’s really challenging to be on different pages politically, especially with those you love. You are doing a good job of encouraging the conversation, that is really important….so many people insist on arguing, or refusing to have the conversation at all. I hope you don’t get discouraged, you don’t have to change your husband’s thinking, if you talk enough about the issues, potential solutions and the work being done, he may shift his thinking on his own. And if he you continue to be in different camps, maybe you could ask him how and where he would consider compromise (that dirty, dirty word :D)

          • August 13, 2011 at 7:12 am

            Good idea, Sue, about Andrew Sullivan. I did record LO show w/Alan Simpson with the plan to ask him to watch just that portion of the show. In your second paragraph–we are retired and fairly secure–as much as any middle class to upper middle class retirees can be today. He, of course, is on Medicare AND receives SS. I know, don’t get me started. When he was 65, he made snide comments about Medicare…..all the paperwork required; having to find his Supplemental policy, etc. etc. I told him more than once “If you don’t want to take Medicare, refuse and go out and find your own.” Of course, he never did that.

            As far as real life experiences, we don’t personally know people who have had a horrific illness and had no insurance. We’ve only had one experience in our family that led to huge medical bills–childhood cancer. Our grandson had Ewings Sarcoma (first diagnosis was neuroblastoma). He did not make it…..lost him after 6 months. While he was in treatment, there were many times me or my daughter would say: What if we were going through this and had no insurance????!!!!! (Son-in-law is officer in Navy…….”government run” healthcare!!!!!!) Hubby has heard me say more than once how Walker’s illness and death taught me many things, but one was to NOT judge others until you have walked in their shoes and two, never think “That won’t happen to me……it happens to other families, but not us” and in that line of thinking, he heard me say “What if insurance had said “No more…..we’re dropping him…..we won’t pay for any more treatment.” When I woke this morning and began thinking about all this, I thought about his using the talking points and how I, OTOH, have heard so many personal stories of callers all across our country….different income levels…..as I’ve listened to Stephanie or Ed or Thom and now Randi or how I’ve read on blogs personal stories. He knows NONE of that–all he hears/reads is the talking points.

            I won’t give up and will keep coming here for support and encouragement and help through links or info you all can provide. THANKS!!!!

            • 123 Sue in Minnesota
              August 13, 2011 at 11:45 am

              You are handling it in the best way you can, and the important thing is to keep talking and keep the conversation civil. I am so sorry about the loss of your grandchild. I know from family experience how devasting and trying that is to go through.

              I live with a brother, we just had a rousing conversation based on Tom’s commentary. We are in different camps, he is frustrated with Obama, and is like many, a harder headed progressive than I am, yet he still considers him a good President. But he wants more. Initially we argued, we have made much progress, I am no longer invested in trying to change his opinions, but rather interested in adding mine, and the reasons for them to the discussion.

              Two things, I have come to believe I am smarter and a more critical thinker than he is ๐Ÿ˜‰ which feeds my own ego, but I see him slowly, and steadily shifting his positions and softening his attitudes. And I have become less attached to the emotions of the conversation and more focused on the ideas. We are making progress, and I am growing and becoming a better communicator along the way. In the end I believe he is entitled to his own opinions, but I really appreciate that a real conversation rather than an argument has been the outcome of our efforts. Lets keep at it.

              • August 13, 2011 at 3:12 pm

                Hi tnmtngirl. I hope that you are having a joyful and peaceful day. Keep thinking good thoughts even when the opposing one try to invade you calmness. Frustration is a very difficult road to walk at times, but there can always be such joy and hope ahead if and when we give our thoughts to just a little piece of hope.
                I concur with Sue’s comments to you. Sue is always so loving and reasonable in her thinking, in my opinion. So take it at you speed, and do remember as Sue so beautifully stated,”A real converstaion rather than an argument…” that is so powerful. That is what I choose when I am conversing with friends who try to put me on the edge. I just tell them, that”I will enjoy my President and continue to pray for him to be given wisdom, and to use his intellect to help our country to be better than what we are now sitting here doing.” My friends stops and just looks at me and say,”You really mean that.” Yes, I do. I enjoy intellect beautifully wrapped with grace, poise, clamness, love, and a compassion for others that is so bright with the light of goodness in their heart. This is why I will support and defend President Obama until I leave this earth. So walk in your light that you prepare your heart to receive and share gently but firmly with you hubby, and watch him began to converse with you rather than being in a negative mold. I pray for your best tnmtngirl. Be peaceful in your beautiful family. My heart goes toward you in the loss of your lovely grandson. Drink from all the love of the memories that he gave to you both. Love you back also, HZ

              • 125 Tally
                August 13, 2011 at 3:45 pm

                We ALL want MORE.

                However, basic MATH gets in the way:

                > (less than) 60 Magical Votes in the Senate + NO Super Majority in the House + GOP-Owned Media + an army of RightWingCrazyยฎ + record obstruction + over 30 years of GOP systematic defunding/deregulation/wealth tranfer to the rich = No Magic Harry Potter Wand for POTUS.

                So all the whiners need to STFU and start HELPING get us the progressive army sent to Congress in 2012. Anything else is simply self-destructive.

                If someone is stupid enough to primary Obama, it will kill the Democratic party and Progressive movement FOREVER, and the Kochs would be happy fund it.

            • 126 virginia
              August 13, 2011 at 8:32 pm

              I’ve read much of tnmtngirl’s posts about her husband. He is trapped in his stereotypes and talking points, and you are never going to change him. I wouldn’t worry too much about it. He thinks he can change YOU and you think you can change HIM. It’s never going to happen. I’lll bet I’ve been married a longer time than ou have, and there are some things that you may have to agree to disagree on, especially about religiion and politics. That’s what works for me.

      • 127 Anonymous
        August 13, 2011 at 12:22 am

        Tally – I think you said you are “bardgal.” Just saw your comment on Steve Benen’s blog and it was sterling.

  31. August 12, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    THANK YOU, Chipsticks, THANK YOU, Tally, THANK YOU, Tom. This is just PROFOUND. What an enlightenment it is to me. I shall never again look at President Barack Obama without remembering this insight. I am a changed person after reading it. I will indeed send it to my newspaper and to lots of others. A million thanks.

  32. 130 No Child Left Behind
    August 12, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Tom and Chipsticks,

    Great comment! Very thoughtful.

    Thanks and keep it up.

  33. 131 mtmarilyn
    August 12, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    I am white and 65. When I heard Obama in 2004 I told my husband he was going to be our president. The I read his book and was more impressed. I just knew he was the right person to be our first african american president. I have stood by him from the begining and I am fired up and ready to go now.

  34. August 13, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Keep this handy, folks:



  35. 139 mtmarilyn
    August 13, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Tally you are a treasure! Thank you for all that you are doing for us. I am so thankful for this place and all the people here. I am learning so much. I am learning to do twitter because of you. Please keep pressing us. This President is worth every uncomfortable thing I do. I am typing this in the car on our way to Seattle for wedding and reunion. I continue to be amazed at modern convienences.

  36. 142 ChristiMtl
    August 13, 2011 at 12:27 am

    I hope someone will answer my question, there’s a lot of comments already. Maybe.

    As many of the regulars here knows, english is not my first language, french is.

    There’s an english expression that I didn’t know before, I didn’t even know what it meant:
    ”holding his feet to the fire”

    I looked for the meaning on google, it seemed to be a very common expression, used mostly on politicians.

    Every time I see that expression now , there’s always vicious attacks on the President before and the person just says: whatever I’m just holding his feet to the fire”.

    Am I crazy that in that context, I find it racist? Because it seem to justify the most vile attacks on the President, like anything goes.

    I have these awful images in my head when I see that expression.

    So if someone would please tell me if I’m wrong to think it’s racist the way they justify their vitriol or it’s not

    • August 13, 2011 at 12:32 am

      It’s a form of torture invented by the Spanish Inquisition:


      “The penances and punishments to which the accused were subjected, in order to obtain such a confession as the inquisitors desired, were many and various; the rack was usually the first. The naked arms, to which a small hard cord was fastened, were turned behind the back, heavy weights were tied to the feet; and then the sufferer was drawn up by the action of a pulley to the height of the place he was in. Having been kept suspended for some time, he was suddenly let down with a jerk to within a little distance of the floor; this done several times, the joints of the arms were dislocated, whilst the cord, by which he was suspended, cut through the skin and flesh, and penetrated to the bone; and by means of the weights appended to the feet, the whole frame was violently strained. This species of torture was continued for an hour and sometimes longer, according to the pleasure of the inquisitors present, and to what the strength of the sufferer seemed capable of enduring. The torture by fire was equally painful. The prisoner being extended on the floor, the soles of his feet were rubbed with lard, and placed near the fire, until, writhing in agony, he was ready to confess what his tormentors required. A second time the judges doomed their victims to the same torture, to make them wn the motives and intentions of their hearts for their confessed conduct or sayings; and a third time, that they might reveal their accomplices or abettors.”

    • 145 Anonymous
      August 13, 2011 at 12:35 am

      ChristiMtl – I’ve heard that expression all of my adult life, and I don’t think it’s intended by most to be racist. People use it without thinking about it, I’m sure, since it’s so much a part of the vernacular.

      Now, if a racist uses it with that intention – then, it’s a given, anyway. Makes me shudder, too.

      There are plenty of other “code words” and phrases out there, but please try not to keep this one image in your head.

    • 146 hgerhard
      August 13, 2011 at 1:00 am

      Hi ChristiMtl – I have a similar reaction every time I hear that awful statement. Just like you, I have a vivid picture of someone deliberately burning someone else’s feet – ugh!!! I don’t believe that it is racist, but it surely isn’t very considerate. The political vocabulary is full of imagery, some of it not too delicate. But it is applied to everyone in politics. I do agree with you, however, that President Obama is getting more than the usual amount of vitriol and that many attacks on him have a distinctly racist undertone.

  37. August 13, 2011 at 12:41 am

    I’m so glad to see these comments. utaustinliberal, I especially appreciate your thoughts. As a white grandma type I can never be sure that I am understanding correctly the feelings of my fellow Americans of other races. How can I understand the black reality? By hearing your opinion I feel I know more–maybe I’m not explaining this very well. I know what blatent racism sounds and looks like–and I know I hate that–but it’s the subtle stuff that I might not catch. I know I have felt almost motherly towards our president. So often I find I take it personally when he is attacked. But, I also know he is a hell of a lot smarter then I am. I remember once he said, “I think they are forgetting I’m pretty good at politicking”. When he talks about coming together and solving our country’s problems, he is holding a mirror up to the Republican side and showing them their inability to look after our county’s well being. During the Republican debates last night they were asked to raise their hand if they were offered 10 tax cuts to one tax hike–would they take it. They all raised their hand that they wouldn’t. Fools, idiots, crazy people–how did we get in this mess with people like that running for president?

  38. August 13, 2011 at 2:10 am

    I want to thank all of my TOD family here today. And a big thanks to Chipsticks. We are so blessed to have our haven of love, calmness, intellect, great information that is shared unselfishly, kind and encouraging words, gentle spirits, and most of all a great respect for our differences. We are truly a beautiful tapestry of the greatness of this country and all over the world for that matter. I am so grateful that we continue to weave into this beautiful tapastry of a world of goodness, kindness, respectful conversation, and a willingness to share information to anyone who is searching to understand each other. I really love it here because we are what President Obama embodies each day. I am grateful to Chipsticks for standing up so elegantly to those principles to keep this a beautiful place where we respect this wonderful and great President, Barack H. Obama. Thank you Chipsticks and TOD family. I love you all so very much. HZ

    • August 13, 2011 at 6:52 am

      I second that, HZ. I know all of you are supportive of me, not just out president. Since I can’t share things w/my hubby, I can share in our joint pride of PO. THANKS to all!!!!!

    • August 13, 2011 at 7:30 am

      As always, beautifully said, HZ.

      • August 13, 2011 at 3:32 pm

        Jackie, we have so much to be grateful for on this site, right? Thank you also for your comments. I was just thinking how beautiful this beautiful person of a President, Barack H. Obama has brought out so many connections of love, respect, kindness, and really being our brothers’ and sisters’ keepers in the best way that we know how. I love our TOD family here. HZ

  39. August 13, 2011 at 6:53 am

    Me again. For those of you following my sage from last night, please see my answer to Sue in Minnesota.

  40. August 13, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Amazing – this comment by ‘Tom’ just finally connects dots that I have had in my head but never connected; it also immediately threw me back over 40 years in my memories.

    I always understood (I think) the ‘rationale’ behind the non-violent Civil Rights movement in the U.S. – to me it was absolutely clear why Dr. Martin Luther King was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. As far as I could follow it (I was 9 years old when we “finally” got television), the non-violent approach was the only way to get there, and get it done permanently, not as a “one-off success” that would be overturned at the next election.

    Yet – and this is the revelation the comment brings to my mind – I never placed President Obama’s approach to the job in the same category. I always saw it as a consequence of his personal attitude/conviction/moral compass.

    But, of course, it is impossible that he would be who he is without the Civil Rights movement – and by that I do not mean the fact that a black person occupies the White House – because his whole life is engulfed with that fight.

    Ugh, perhaps there should be a term for this shortsightedness of mine, like “blinded by the white” …

    • August 13, 2011 at 10:32 am

      I remember he was really snubbed by those in the civil rights movement when he first announced his candidacy. They believed that he had not paid his dues, had no grown up in the tradition of the movement, was not of that generation. But of course over time, he won them over to a large degree, especially John Lewis. And anyone who lived through that movement in this country consciously and fought so that everyone could reach the dream can place him squarely in the progress of that arc of time.

  41. 156 Janelle
    August 13, 2011 at 8:26 am

    I agree with Tally that Tom’s comments should go viral during this whole election cycle to local TV, print, national pundits, FB, and Twitter. Also, after hearing the President speak of MLK at the NY fundraiser on Thursday night, I’m looking forward to his speech at the memorial dedication on 8/28. Hopefully, people will be able to read between the lines of what he’s saying and what motivates his actions today. Fauxgressives love to use MLK as a model and ignore his long-term strategy—-they focused on his fiery speeches and want the President to yell, scream and pound the podium even if nothing gets done. The Civil Rights Movement was incremental and long and won city by city, state by state by local community organizers who worked everyday with little recognition. MLK inspired others to keep going but whole communities were active every day. It wasn’t just one man doing everything. Some progressives want POTUS to do everything while they sit back, get blog clicks, ratings, sign multi-million dollar contracts with MSNBC and are as Rev. Al said “studio activists”.

  42. August 13, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Good Morning:

    Yours is the most sensible analysis of the Presidents actually situation that I have read. Those of us who have lived through the most recent fifty-years of the struggle see clearly where he is — and admire his dignity and composure while most around him are ranting, raving, and doing all they can to un-nerve and harrass him. Your description of the stonewalling is so on-target.
    Some of us pray for him daily; we pray for his mental and spiritual healthe; we are so proud that he is not yielding to the human response expected from those who deny him his proper respect, and even refuse to acknowledge his Title of “Mr. President” We are thankful for those, like you; who read and understand the reality you describe in your commentary. I am truly encouraged this morning and invite you to pray also for the strength of President Obama, his blessed Wife, and Family. They will go down in the History books yet to be written by people of honesty and integrity — such as you are.

    God Bless you !!

  43. 162 theboysisters
    August 13, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Good morning; GREAT quote from Germany’s Chancellor Merkel on President Obama:

    Merkel described Obama as the most “inconspicuous world leader I have ever met. He carries none of the pomp or prestige of the office and instead treats it as the most important job in the world, not for himself but for the citizens he serves and represents. He is the furthest thing from any government ruler as I have encountered in all my years.”

    • August 13, 2011 at 11:51 am

      Isn’t it ashame that alot of people not from our country appreciate this President more then the people here does. They see that we have a good President, we have a good leader, but all some people are doing is trying to tear him down. What a shame .

    • 164 Sue in Minnesota
      August 13, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      A very profound and revealing comment. And I think beautiful. We see what Angela sees. I am so pleased to spend time here, among so many open, smart, determined and insightful people. Thank you for your contributions, your company and the positive influence you infuse into the world.

      I have been so neglectful of my responsibilities, I am now faced with about 3 days work that needs to be done by tomorrow afternoon. Everyone have the best of days, keep your spirits up and hope alive———–Namaste

      • August 13, 2011 at 2:59 pm

        I totally know this feeling, Sue in M! ;( it is the main reason I don’t commment as much, because while I am neglecting my housekeeping responsibilities and trying to stay abreast of info here, if I pause to comment as well, I’ll NEVER keep up with either. I trust you’ll be able to compress the work you have to do to meet your ‘deadline’, ๐Ÿ˜‰ and I look forward to hearing your perspective when you return.

        Hopefully everyone here is having a productive weekend! DD4O, I like the look of your new initiative. These are the only times I wish I was living in the States so that I could become really involved. (On the other hand, apart from Prez O, I detest most other American politicians, particularly those who disparage or are unsupportive of him so I’m staying put where I am in the ‘North’.)

        • 166 Sue in Minnesota
          August 13, 2011 at 4:49 pm

          I snuck back here, I have a chair to refinish and a seat cushion to make, birthday card to make and presents to wrap, and everywhere I look I am distracted by piles and dust bunnies, which drives me to distraction..I am so anal about neat. So I walked by the computer. a bit overwhelmed with my laundry list….and here I am. Yikes talk about addiction…..

          If you live in Vancouver I am rendered green with envy. I love British Columbia, Vancouver, and especially Vancouver Island. Luck, lucky you. Actually all of Canada appeals to me, but I am a cold weather baby that loves green, water, and lots of trees. Throw in some mountains, which we do not have in Minnesota, and I am one with my maker ๐Ÿ˜€

          Off to once again attempt to behave like a responsible adult – – wish me well.

          • 167 Tally
            August 13, 2011 at 4:52 pm

            I want to find a hot sexy Vancouver man to marry me. ๐Ÿ˜€ I’d move there RIGHT THIS SECOND. It’s my favorite city on EARTH.

            • August 13, 2011 at 9:52 pm

              Sue M and Tally, I am happy to be able to assuage your envy ๐Ÿ˜‰ – I am not a Vancouverite, .. just a lowly Ontarian who hangs out north of Toronto. And Tally, my girl, though I’m not overly fond of change, you better believe I’d CONSIDER ๐Ÿ˜‰ pulling up stakes and moving to Vancouver too IF I could be guaranteed a hot-sexy-willing-to-get-married male, especially if he’s half as loving as my Prez. I’ve only ever spent a weekend in Vancouver decades ago and as I was there for a Netball tournament I saw nothing of the city itself. Sue, as for the addiction bit, I’ve got it good too! PBO has totally, TOTALLY shattered my mental condescension. I confess to being one of those who, prior to PBO, had always QUIETLY thought that people didn’t have to be addicted if they would just show a little resolution. Mind you, I never voiced it. Now, you have no idea how often I’ve woken up and decided that today was the day I really can’t afford to go online to check in, yet find excuses to reward myself with a quick Obama look in which is n.e.v.e.r. as quick as it should be. Here is an old fogey who NEVER was a fan of ANYONE in all my youth who now has visitors asking me if the President &/ family are relatives of mine ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ™„ [ps. They’re just envious of the framed pictures I added to my family picture gallery. :lol:] Hope you manage to complete all your preparations. The only things around here that gets done consistently are laundry and dishes. I’ve made friends with my dust bunnies to the point where we share space amicably these days. ๐Ÿ˜‰

              • 169 Tally
                August 13, 2011 at 9:57 pm

                Poo. I am so sad you don’t have a hot sexy male relative in Vancouver who is looking for a hot, sexy, smart, funny, cougarish So Cali ex-Disney girl to marry. ๐Ÿ˜†

    • 170 jacquelineoboomer
      August 13, 2011 at 12:22 pm

      Angela has been splashed with magical Obama dust! Love it!

    • August 13, 2011 at 3:46 pm

      Now that is a beautiful and thoughtful compliment from one world leader to another. Thank you Chancellor Merkel. I appreciate you posting that statement,Theboysisters. Thank you again. HZ

  44. August 13, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Thanks for posting this chips, I read this a couple of nights ago at WeeSeeYou and agree that it is very smart and well said. I’ve always tried to keep in mind that President Obama is “first”.. and I’ve always believed that he is very mindful of it- and the responsibility that comes with being first is to ensure that the door stays open for the second and the next and the next. POTUS KNOWS that folks aren’t just trying to stop him- but they are intent on preventing ANY person of color/gender/gender persuasian from becoming President. This has never been all about him.. it has been about my mixed race granddaughters from becoming President.. or yours. Folks on the right.. and I believe some on the PL ONLY want a white male ( or possibly their chosen white female) to lead this country. We (I) want the best leadership possible for this country and I KNOW that leadership comes in all colors/genders, etc. POTUS continues to prove that to America everyday in spite of the continued attempt at creating him into a failure by certain extremists in this country- including the MEDIA.

  45. 174 ObamaLuvr
    August 13, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    And this from a comment on Benen’s blog. Guess I’m going to have to add that blog to my favorites list. What wonderful insight this person has. It’s exactly how I see Barack’s struggle.

    • 175 jacquelineoboomer
      August 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      Could someone tell me – isn’t Steve Benen the person Rachel Maddow admires? If he is, hope she saw his post and Tom’s comment! Maybe there’s still the possibility of her learning something from others on the playground.

  46. 176 SAB
    August 13, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Someone has finally articulated what I have thought all along about how the president approaches his adversaries. It does remind one of Dr. King and his non-violent resistance. It takes more strength and courage to turn the other cheek than it does to raise a fist. And it takes a hell of a lot of strength to not tell your adversaries to go F themselves when they are lying about you. I couldn’t do it.

  47. 177 virginia
    August 13, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    I read every last comment on this thread and couldn’t agree more. Tom said what many of us had on the tip of our tongues , but could not articulate. I will share this with as many as I can. It should go viral. It’s the truth.

  48. August 15, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Love this article thanks for posting Ms. Chips!

  49. 179 Miguel Marcos
    August 16, 2011 at 3:54 am

    I am not going to be abandoning Obama under any circumstance. However, I think he’s abandoned some of us in one particular way. During the primaries and the general election when he spoke I listened. I felt he was speaking to me. I was so moved that, for the first time in my life, I financially supported a political candidate, repeatedly, during the entire process from the primaries to the end.

    I never mistook him for a leftie or strong liberal. I did take him for a truth-teller. Someone who took the high road of not using abusive or insulting language at others to point out the wrongs in our society, someone who could speak the truth while maintaining a strong level of respect and sensitivity for others, someone who would show us the way to overome those wrongs.

    To give an example: At this point in his presidency I would’ve expected him to shine a distinct and highly focused light on the abusive position of the financial industry in society and its singular role in the economic disaster we are now going through: Their astronomical profits and bonuses for the past decade, how the industry depended on you and me to be bailed out when things didn’t go that well (profits for them, losses for us). A light meant to get these people to shape up, a light that would fire up the people of this country to realize these truths and mobilize them in such a way where a public discourse might take place about just what to do and how to do it? How do we let our society continue to be free but allow such rampant and self-centered economic damange from taking place?

    Obama has a communicative power like no other figure nowadays in the country. But he’s lost my ear. I was eager to listen to him for long after he was inaugurated but slowly he lost me. I no longer sensed any vision from him. I see him as a day-to-day president, shuffling business back and forth each day.

    Like I say, I am going to support him to the end. But, as far as being disillusioned, I’m not disillusioned that he’s turned out not to be such a liberal or leftie. I’m disillusioned because he seems to have taken too many steps back. I’d almost say he’s afraid of working people’s excitement and interest up too much for fear of causing a big social confrontation with the rabid right and Tea Partiers. Whatever the reason, I am disappointed and hope that he will push his vision for the country again. Not to get re-elected but to change the country, to make it a better and more just place for all, to make it stronger and more honest and a beacon for the rest of the world.

  50. September 4, 2011 at 1:19 am

    Just wanted to let you know that this post inspired me to respond on my own blog, which you can read here: http://reelectdemocrats.blogspot.com/2011/09/is-it-really-black-or-white-issue.html

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