(Pete Souza)

Washington Post: President Obama is considering asking Sen. John F. Kerry to serve as his next defense secretary, part of an extensive rearrangement of his national security team that will include a permanent replacement for former CIA director David H. Petraeus.

Although Kerry is thought to covet the job of secretary of state, senior administration officials familiar with the transition planning said that nomination will almost certainly go to Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

John O. Brennan, Obama’s chief counterterrorism adviser, is a leading contender for the CIA job if he wants it, officials said. If Brennan goes ahead with his plan to leave government, Michael J. Morell, the agency’s acting director, is the prohibitive favorite to take over permanently. Officials cautioned that the White House discussions are still in the early stages and that no decisions have been made….

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243 Responses to “Reshuffle”

  1. 1 collegekay
    November 12, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    I like Susan Rice. She spoke at our commencement in September. Her confirmation hearing will be interesting though.

  2. 4 vcprezofan2
    November 12, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    Hi, CK! It’s been awhile since we’ve run into each other. How ya doing?

  3. 8 hopefruit2
    November 12, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Break – for love.

  4. 9 Lorraine
    November 12, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Not a fan of Susan Rice, prefer some like Chuck Hagel or Bob Kerrey. The pick of John Brennan is brilliant, he is perfect.

    • 10 jacquelineoboomer
      November 13, 2012 at 12:35 am

      I love Susan Rice ~ and I love Chuck Hagel (big time)! Of course, I’ll be happy with the President’s choices, all around. He hasn’t failed “me,” yet.

      • 11 Roberts in MN
        November 14, 2012 at 7:00 am

        I like Hagel, but prefer Rice. Hagel was involved in some of the voting machine denocle in 2004 or maybe 2002

    • 12 Puddin'
      November 13, 2012 at 1:04 am

      I love Susan Rice…she is smart, intelligent, strong…she was actually my choice for SOS in 2009, but was/is very satisfied with SOS Hillary Clinton. Susan Rice will be an excellent SOS.

    • 13 nathkatun7
      November 13, 2012 at 1:08 am

      Lorraine, can you enlighten us (or at least share the reasons) why you are not a fan of Susan Rice?

      • 14 anniebella
        November 13, 2012 at 10:50 am

        I have no problem with Susan Rice. But I’m hearing bull about the way she handle what happen with the four Americans being killed.

  5. 15 amk for obama
    November 12, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Ok. Starting a fresh pool. Twenty each.

    SOS – Susan Rice.

    SecDef – Not Kerry

    • 16 nathkatun7
      November 13, 2012 at 1:28 am

      It’s just so hard to bet against someone you agree with 99% of the time. I will, however, go out on a limb, with my twenty dollars bet (to be donated to the Red Cross if you approve) that Susan Rice won’t be nominated for SOS and will continue as our UN ambassador. As for Sec. of Defense, I have absolutely no clue. If I were advising the President, I would recommend Gen. Wes Clark or Ambassador Rice for the SoS position; and Sen. John Kerry or former Senator Chuck Hegel for SoD. Sen Carl Levin, is another person that I think would be excellent as SoD.

  6. 18 hopefruit2
    November 12, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    I see that Andrea Mitchell is baring her arms. She feels like FLOTUS tonight.

    • 19 Ladyhawke
      November 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      Rachel’s gushing about Andrea Mitchell is nauseating. For some reason, the Grand Dame of MSNBC is always there when an important story breaks. I can’t bear to watch her show. At the root of every question is some GOP talking point, criticism or meme about President Obama. She seems to go out of her way to focus on the negative aspect of every issue. It’s as if the search for the facts will never take precedence over gossip and innuendo. I just don’t understand the fuss about Mrs Greenspan.

      • 20 jacquelineoboomer
        November 13, 2012 at 12:40 am

        Back in ’08, I called Andrea on some of that stuff via email and she responded – twice. She was actually very gracious, as she denied all of it. Never bothered to contact her again.

  7. 22 ourmanflint
    November 12, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    I think that Rice will be a great choice for Sec of state. Thanks for heads up Chips

  8. 23 Lorraine
    November 12, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Also, I adore Senator Kerry, just concerned about his Senate seat.

  9. 28 hopefruit2
    November 12, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    Some men fail to understand that women don’t respond to stimuli in the same way that they (men) respond.

  10. 32 Pamela
    November 12, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    Yo’, y’all! HaHa, am working on laptop tonight, can hardly find my way around the keyboard, and what? No predictive text to auto-correct all my bloopers? yikes! ;} No touch screen? No way I will ever love this machine again…. sorry, but true!

  11. 33 Melanie
    November 12, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    So if Kerry becomes Sec. of Defense, wonder what Dem. is available in MA. to keep that seat. Would Gov. Patrick get to appt. replacement and then it be up for special election?

  12. 36 carolyn
    November 12, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    This cabinet reshuffle will be interesting to watch, but I am not going to put my money on anyone for any job at the present time. No one has officially resigned yet, and no one really knows what’s in PBO’s mind on this, except probably Joe Biden, and he doesn’t talk. PBO always surprises people. These two may be appointed, but I’m waiting for actual resignations, and the settling of politics. Hillary has said she won’t resign until the Benghazi situation is settled, as she doesn’t want to leave this for someone new to clear up. Not like Bush who dumped the terrors on PBO!

    • November 13, 2012 at 12:20 am

      I’m with you. The last thing the President needs is someone who will be difficult to confirm, and he needs someone who can hold her own on the international stage with the Russians and the Chinese – and, while I really like and admire Amb. Susan Rice, I’m not convinced that she is the right person. But, I trust the President, and whomever he chooses will be the right choice for him and the country.

  13. 43 susanne
    November 12, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    pbo will meet with labor, business, and progressive leaders to discuss deficit.


  14. 44 Pamela
    November 12, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    I just watched the “I’m Really Proud of All of You” YouTube again, did you know there have been 6,460, 304 views since it was first posted on November 8th? Isn’t that just wonderful and amazing? so beautiful…

    • 45 theo67
      November 13, 2012 at 12:23 am

      It’s a wonderfully intimate moment, and it says something about the people (and their values) who surround President Obama that they wanted to share that moment with the world.

  15. 46 amk for obama
    November 12, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    An elderly gentleman had serious hearing problems for a number of years. He went to the doctor and the doctor was able to have him fitted for a very tiny set of hearing aids that allowed the gentleman to hear 100 %.

    The elderly gentleman went back in a month to the doctor and the doctor said: “Your hearing is perfect. Your family must be really pleased that you can hear again.”

    The gentleman replied, “Oh, I haven’t told my family yet. I just sit around and listen to their conversations. I’ve changed my will three times!”

  16. 48 Bill R.
    November 12, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    I’m betting Harry Reid vetoes the Kerry nomination if there is no guarantee of keeping the Senate seat in MA. Only guarantee, if Vicki Kennedy runs.

    • November 12, 2012 at 10:00 pm

      Governor Patrick is a very successful governor up there. Don’t discount him, he holds all the cards.
      Btw- that would be very embarrassing if Reud did that!

    • 52 nathkatun7
      November 13, 2012 at 1:56 am

      Bill R., What’s the process of selecting a replacement in case Sen. Kerry is nominated for either SoS or SoD? Does the MA law require the Gov. to call for an immediate election? Or can the Governor appoint a temporary replacement until the next election in 2014?

  17. November 12, 2012 at 9:58 pm

  18. 54 amk for obama
    November 12, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    An Army Ranger was on vacation in the depths of Louisiana and he wanted a pair of genuine alligator shoes in the worst way, but was very reluctant to pay the high prices the local vendors were asking. After becoming very frustrated with the “no haggle” attitude of one of the shopkeepers, the Ranger shouted, “maybe I’ll just go out and get my own alligator so I can get a pair of shoes made at a reasonable price!”

    The vendor said, “By all means, be my guest. Maybe you will run into a couple of Marines who were in here earlier saying the same thing.”

    So the Ranger headed into the bayou that same day and a few hours later came upon two men standing waist deep in the water. He thought, “those must be the two Marines the guy in town was talking about.” Just then, the Ranger saw a tremendously long aligator swimming rapidly underwater towards one of the Marines.

    Just as the aligator was about to attack, the Marine grabbed its neck with both hands and strangled it to death with very little effort. Then both Marines dragged it on shore and flipped it on its back. Laying nearby were several more of the creatures.

    One of the Marines then exclaimed, “Damn, this one doesn’t have any shoes either!”

    /ducks and runs

  19. 57 amk for obama
    November 12, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    An Air Force cargo plane was preparing for departure from Thule Air Base in Greenland. They were waiting for the truck to arrive to pump out the aircraft’s sewage holding tank. The Aircraft Commander was in a hurry, the truck was late in arriving, and the Airman performing the job was extremely slow in getting the tank pumped out.

    When the commander berated the Airman for his slowness and promised punishment, the Airman responded: “Sir, I have no stripes, it is 20 below zero, I’m stationed in Greenland, and I am pumping sewage out of airplanes. Just what are you going to do to punish me?”

  20. November 12, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Tuesday Nov. 13, 2012
    12:30 AM
    Carney briefs the press.
    10:45 AM
    Obama and Biden receive the presidential daily briefing.
    11:30 AM
    Obama and Biden attend a meeting with leaders from the labor community.

  21. 60 amk for obama
    November 12, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    A boy is writing a paper on childbirth and asks his parents: “How was I born?”

    His mother awkwardly answers: “The stork brought you.”

    “Oh,” says the boy. “Well, how were you and Daddy born?”

    “Oh, the stork brought us, too, and Grandpa and Grandma.”

    The boy begins his paper: “This report has been very difficult to write due to the fact that there hasn’t been a natural childbirth in my family for three generations.”

    Gunnite folks.

  22. 66 yardarm756
    November 12, 2012 at 10:05 pm

  23. 67 wesleya17
    November 12, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Hi TOD Family well the BBQ party is finishing up after the Election .The Boys and I are heading back out to the road and see our wonderful country that is in safe hands of our President for 4 more years.As a Vet I’m also proud of the way he cares for us all.Also for got to tell you the new grandson was named by my and son and daughter in law after our President by taking the middle name “Hussein”.So now I have a grandson Named ” Tony Hussein “and it feels great as all the election news.

    • November 12, 2012 at 10:25 pm

      That’s really lovely, wesleya. I wonder how many Baracks and Michelles (not to mention Sashas and Malias will be starting school in a few years?

    • 69 yardarm756
      November 12, 2012 at 11:12 pm

      Nice touch and welcome home!

    • 70 jackiegrumbacher
      November 13, 2012 at 8:07 am

      Wesley, congratulations! Nothing like a new grandchild to make everything seem right with the world. I share your feeling about the the country being in safe hands. Lately I’ve been feeling all the residual tension I’ve felt for months about this election ease away. Hadn’t realized before how much it had gotten to me.

  24. 71 COS
    November 12, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    I just heard David Frum say that PBO didn’t even thank the people who voted for him. I was waitting for some pushhback from Lawrence, Crystal or Kornacke but they said nothing. He was comparing PBO with the republican party, i.e. saying thatDemocrats have flaws also.

    • 72 prettyfoot58
      November 12, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      yes…i have to mute a few times…..

      but here is a question…

      are people like Frum and Limbaugh that different from each other…

      • 73 COS
        November 12, 2012 at 10:27 pm

        Prettyfoot, they are all the same. Everyone always praises what Frum says, but everytime I see him, he always manage to get a negative dig in against PBO. I am so happy that PBO has been re-elected and we can just look at these pundits and laugh. They all have egg on their faces.

      • 74 nathkatun7
        November 13, 2012 at 2:57 am

        Not very much, prettyfoot58! Frum pretends to be erudite and sophisticated, Rush, on the other hand, is as crude a racist as they come, while pretending to hide behind his accusation that it’s President Obama who is anti white people. To be honest, neither Frum nor Limbaugh is comfortable that the nation elected an African American as President. The difference between David Frum and Rush Limbaugh is that, unlike Frum, Limbaugh has no qualms voicing his subliminal racist attacks against President Obama.

        • 75 prettyfoot58
          November 13, 2012 at 6:28 am

          2 sides of the same coin..that is why i say beware of the Trojan Horse…if the racist visceral side of the Republican side does not win ….let’s try the so called cerebral, more moderate, more reasonable side ,,,but when it is said and done,,,it still is the Repub Party…. let us watch what happens in this cycle with the Repub controlled state houses….what attacks do they plan to unleash on the citizens of those states….

    • 76 wesleya17
      November 12, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      Cos I heard the same thing but you must remember the talking heads don’t listen to the words that come out. as much as looking all prim and proper on camera .Every hair must be in place and look directly into red eye so they look good and the facts and words fly right over their heads.

      • 77 cookemom
        November 12, 2012 at 10:28 pm

        I may have to clean my ears, but I didn’t hear that. Is there a link up yet? I heard him bashing his party for using Reagan as the standard bearer of the party when young folks don’t have a clue as to who he his. He compared it to him hearing about Dewey when he was young. I need to find me another way to absorb our win. I can’t believe we are still stuck on pundit and spokespeople from the defeated party.

        Why! Why! Why! – Nancy Karrigan

      • 78 carolyn
        November 12, 2012 at 10:29 pm

        That statement of Frum’s has as much validity and punch as Gingrich’s constant harping on American Exceptionalism…..why didn’t President Obama say that???? Remember that hullabaloo? These people never listen to what he actually says. I as a voter and supporter felt totally appreciated by President Obama Tuesday night…..what do they want??? Roses?????

    • 79 cookemom
      November 12, 2012 at 10:24 pm

      Good Lord he did not say that. He said that at least PBO thanked his volunteers. Get the transcripts. He was taking the Repubs to task and if you were watching and listening you know that. He had nothing at all good to say about his own party and he never compared PBO to them in a bad way, but in contrast of the campaign he ran. Why are you saying this?

      The Dems do have flaws and the minute we think we don’t, then we become just like the denying Pubs. Our flaws you ask? We do way too much hand wringing, and angst provoking stuff. We forget too soon what gave us the victory and resort to buying into the scary boogeyman politics.

      Like a pollster said this cycle, ‘when I send out a poll that Repubs don’t like, they want to kill me. When I send out one the Dems don’t like, they want to kill themselves.’

      • 80 COS
        November 12, 2012 at 10:34 pm

        I just did a rewind on my dvr and he said that PBO was not the second coming of FDR and he doesn’t even remember to say thank you to the people who voted for him. I listened to it three times.

        • 81 cookemom
          November 12, 2012 at 10:38 pm

          I stand corrected. Thank you

        • 82 sabreen60
          November 12, 2012 at 11:06 pm

          I heard Frum said that and my jaw hit the floor. What a phucking liar. Lawrence didn’t part his lips.

        • 83 nathkatun7
          November 13, 2012 at 5:22 am

          You know what COS, this the same BS as what I heard from Chris Matthews. With all due respect to all the magnificent white people who worked so hard to elect and then once again re-elect President Obama, the fact of the matter is that many white media pundits are still obsessed with white privilege. Instead of giving the President credit for assembling a very effective organization, and for inspiring people of all races, gender, sexual orientation, etc., the media feels that he could not have won without these superior white people like Bill Clinton. Guess what, Bill Clinton could never have won the Presidency if it hadn’t been for the Community Organizer, Barack Obama who registered unprecedented numbers of African American (AA) voters that delivered IL, which had traditionally voted for Republicans, to Bill Clinton in 1992. Was Clinton ever asked to thank the young community organizer for his tireless work in voter registration and GOTV in 1992? Was Clinton ever asked to thank the 90% of Black voters who helped him win the presidency and win re-election? Please forgive me for being put off by these media pundits who never miss a beat in trying to denigrate the President. Yes we did win and should probably ignore them. But, No we should not let them off the hook for their relentless efforts to denigrate a duly elected President of the United States. I suppose the best way is to voice our disgust and objections, not on this blog, but on their parent news networks that give them the platform to disrespect the President

      • 85 joanshaw
        November 12, 2012 at 10:47 pm

        cookemom, that is SO good !

        • 86 cookemom
          November 12, 2012 at 10:51 pm

          It appears I was wrong and he did say PBO didn’t apologize. I proudly stand corrected on that. I still maintain we need to get a grip on reacting to what the pundits have to say. We won fer gosh sakes.

          • 87 COS
            November 12, 2012 at 11:00 pm

            I am trying hard not to react Cookemom but it is harder than I thought it would be. 🙂

            • 88 theo67
              November 13, 2012 at 12:36 am

              Don’t let the pundits steal your joy of this election. Enjoy the victory – there is so much to celebrate. The record breaking turnout in the face of such dire predictions about “lack of enthusiasm”, coupled with the voter suppression tactics. The 232 vs 206 final tally, and the fact that he won over 50% of the vote – only the second Democrat since FDR to do that. The fact that we were a part of history, and that he can confidently go into his second term, secure in the knowledge that he will be able to claim his legacy and finish his work and that the majority of the country really is behind him. The fact that we get to watch this amazing man work for another four glorious years. The fact that there’s really nothing that the pundits and GOP can do to President Obama anymore. He’s a two-term President. And he seems very happy about that.

              Who cares what the pundits have to say in the face of all that good news. It should be a source of comfort that their stomachs are full of acid because they lost, and the whole world knows that they lost.

          • 89 nathkatun7
            November 13, 2012 at 5:25 am

            Cookemom, yes we won but that does not mean that we should let people who denigrate and disrespect the President off the-hook!

            • 90 cookemom
              November 13, 2012 at 9:20 am

              So write their bosses and call them out where it matters. We’re the choir, no need to preach to us. We know what these folks have to say. Lurkers to this site know as well. There seems to be more comments posted about the bozos of the media than those devoted to the respect we hold for PBO and what we need to do to keep his policies moving FORWARD!! I mean, how many times on how many threads do we need to hear what Todd, Mitchell, Ed, had to say? They are not newscasters they are pundits. I for one would love a break from them, especially since they were obviously not effective, WE WON!!!

            • 91 cookemom
              November 13, 2012 at 9:27 am

              How is what is written on this blog site to people keep them on the hook. Go to the source and make your complaints. Start a petition to the networks. Write to the Op-ed section of the newspapers. That will go a long way toward what you seek. Telling us that a pundit said something against PBO serves no purpose but to demoralize and give them more control over our little happy abode than is warranted. So of course, you can post what you want, but I will push back on the negativity. It’s contagious and does us no earthly good. Now, how ’bout those Bears?!

            • 92 cookemom
              November 13, 2012 at 9:28 am

              Oops, I think I replied to you twice. sorry

    • 93 desertflower
      November 12, 2012 at 10:29 pm

      I heard that too…maybe someone should send him that tearful thank you that the President gave to his volunteers….I screamed at my tv. This is why I have sworn off the idiot box.

      • 94 carolyn
        November 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm

        I did like Frum’s comparison of his relationship to Dewey with this generation’s relationship to Reagan. He was clearly saying the Republicans are living in the past, which they are. Clinton is history to the new generation.

  25. 95 prettyfoot58
    November 12, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Wow…according to the Last Word….the FBI searched her home….there is more to this……if there was no criminal activity…why would they search her home….Oooooooooooo weeeeeeeee

  26. November 12, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Following up a previous thread, I went on Amazon to look for Scout Tufankjian’s book Yes We Can. To my surprise it is being offered for $1.30 for a nice hardcover edition! I bought one and tried to buy more (Xmas presents!) but it’s only one per customer. Anyway, I pass it along in case anyone is interested. Chips, I searched and searched for your prize-winning portapotty photo-journalism book, but I couldn’t find it! You need to talk to Amazon ASAP!

  27. 113 hopefruit2
    November 12, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Methinks Broadwell is going to wind up behind bars at the end of this whole investigation. Along with a few others.

    • 114 cookemom
      November 12, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      I think Chesty the FBI, agent won’t be far behind. He opened up a politically motivated investigation for a private citizen as a favor.
      He caused a reluctant FBI to carry out the investigation by going to Cantor. Cantor refers it on to National Security, but doesn’t inform the Senate committee chair of it. So he has some ‘splaining to do too. Broadswell will probably be cleared, unless they find more than they already have. She either doesn’t have any national security stuff or if she does she got it from another other man. Petreaus has been cleared. The other other woman may have filed a false complaint in that the emails from the other woman weren’t all that threatening.

      This is popcorn inducing.

  28. November 12, 2012 at 10:40 pm

  29. November 12, 2012 at 10:41 pm

  30. 117 lisalovesobama
    November 12, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Ugh. I’m so sick of this sex scandal and people trying to tie it to PBO’s administration. 🙄 John Meecham is an ass.

  31. 125 hopefruit2
    November 12, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    • 126 jacquelineoboomer
      November 13, 2012 at 1:15 am

      If it would only really be “the last word” on this, that would work. I do kinda find her last name funny, but I’ll make that my last word about it.

  32. 127 lisalovesobama
    November 12, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Lawry on his Mary j. Kick. 🙄

    • 128 lisalovesobama
      November 12, 2012 at 10:55 pm

      Dear god, to hear Lawry go on and on and on about Marijuana Civil Rights! ‘Oh! Soooo many people’s lives will be better now that they wont be charged for doing pot! No longer will the stench of jail accompany that of a newly lit joint! Hallelujah, thank you Jesus! Free at last, free at last! Thank god almighty! Pot smokers are free at last to smoke as much pot as they want in Washington state!” 🙄 ass.

        • 130 carolyn
          November 12, 2012 at 11:16 pm

          The amount talked about is one ounce. Presently, jails all over the country are overcrowded with people whose crime was possessing one ounce of marijuana. This is very expensive for the states, and does not solve the marijuana situation. This is the result of the War on Drugs, which has not helped the drug problem. There are better solutions than jail for possession of one ounce of marijuana.
          My husband has worked with the legal system here in Oklahoma, and we are destroying lives and spending horrendous amounts of money because of one ounce of marijuana. I don’t like marijuana, but the overreaction is not helping get rid of it.
          I asked my husband…..which causes more deaths from traffic accidents, alcohol or marijuana? We all know the answer.

  33. 131 globalcitizenlinda
    November 12, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    I can imagine that if Gov Patrick choose to run for the MA senate seat, then he can get to know some gop senators who may stand to vote for him if PBO ever considers him for US Spreme Court – okay I have a very active mind

  34. 132 Jessica
    November 12, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    This whole Patraeus and Benghazi situation is starting to piss me off and I know PBO is radiating enough energy to power the WH over the distraction this is causing. We have an important piece of legislation we need to deal with and the media is now salivating over Broadwell and some major conspiracy. Michelle must be putting in some serious work to calm him down right now.

  35. 133 vitaminlover
    November 12, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    All I wanna know is when the variety of calendars that I requested will become available for sale. Just sayin’.

  36. 134 FoxfireTX
    November 12, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Panetta is not going anywhere for awhile so the speculation about Kerry at DoD is moot at least in the near term. http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/panetta-admin-deciding-post-2014-troop-levels-17702106

    • 135 Jessica
      November 12, 2012 at 11:17 pm

      I was kind of hoping he would get resign soon but oh well…

      • 136 carolyn
        November 12, 2012 at 11:23 pm

        This abc item supports my comment above that this cabinet reshuffle is not immediate. Neither Panetta nor Clinton will leave until they come to a good stopping place, till they have the ducks in a row for the next person. They do not leave a job half done or undone. The MSM have a shiny new ball they want to speculate about. The President will make decisions in his own time, and not until actual resignations come in.

        • 137 theo67
          November 13, 2012 at 12:41 am

          Plus, the President knows who’s resigning already. He met with all of them months ago, to start planning a transition. He asked them if they wanted to continue or if they were considering resigning. They don’t do things at the last minute, if they can help it. There was a story about it a while back – I’ll see if I can find it.

    • 138 COS
      November 12, 2012 at 11:19 pm

      So Kerry will probably want the SOS position.

    • 139 Chi
      November 13, 2012 at 8:03 am

      In the end it really isn’t quite up to Panetta…

      If President Obama decides he wants to go in a different direction, he can make that call – which includes replacing any cabinet member he chooses to replace…

  37. November 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    In order to get a search warrant, they need probable cause.
    Something is a foot!

    • 141 COS
      November 12, 2012 at 11:21 pm

      I think I heard someone on Lawrence’s show say that it was by consent. Not sure if that matters.

    • 145 yardarm756
      November 13, 2012 at 12:30 am

      • 146 jacquelineoboomer
        November 13, 2012 at 1:04 am

        Good one. No, make that great one.

      • November 13, 2012 at 2:15 am

        Understand fully the empathetic sentiment of your tweet, sailor, however the Petraeus situation is way beyond sex. Had I had any doubt, the fact that an FBI agent pushed the info to Reichert who then pushed it to Cantor, dispelled any notion that all that was involved was infidelity.

        • 148 yardarm756
          November 13, 2012 at 10:37 am

          I concur Lootenant. However, that situation is going to resole itself because the cover is off. There are too many naked ass’ exposed. Time to worry about getting the troops home and holding the Red Cross feet to the fire. We don’t want to take the ship through burning oil on the surface. Do we? And the whole world is watching.

      • 149 nathkatun7
        November 13, 2012 at 6:08 am

        EXACTLY, yardarm! I am so so sick of the media obsession with sexual dalliances. I still don’t buy the idea that the Gen. was that stupid to jeopardize National Security. Bottom line: this is all about a sex scandal that has absolutely very little to do with addressing critical problems facing this country. Guess what, for all of us brought up in the Judaeo-Christian tradition the problem of sex and temptation go back to the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden. Unfortunately, and in spite of all our piousness, we’ve never been able to conquer the temptation of the forbidden fruit. Yet we still get all worked out whenever people in high offices are involved. For me I would rather be focusing on the government help to ensure that my daughter and other relatives in New York and New Jersey don’t freeze.

        As to who the General is screwing, at 60 years of age, that’s between him and his wife; and between his lover and her husband. I am not so stupid to think that the terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya that killed four Americans, including our ambassador, was because Gen. David Petraeus was screwing a woman who is not his wife. The preoccupation with this story makes absolutely no sense to me. May be I will be proven wrong once the investigation uncovers evidence that the terrorist who killed the four Americans were aided and abetted by Gen. Petraeus’ affair; and that President Obama, Secretary of State Clinton, Secretary of Defense Panetta, and the entire CIA staff, all knew all about the National Security risks of Gen Petraeus’ affair and did nothing, thus causing the death of four Americans.

        I am afraid that in the end this will turn out to be nothing but an ordinary sex scandal that had legs because it involved a highly decorated General who also happened to be the head of the CIA. In the meantime, serious problems that mean life or death for many distressed Americans will be left unattended because they are not salacious!

    • 151 jacquelineoboomer
      November 13, 2012 at 1:11 am

      I realize it’s a 140-character tweet, but isn’t it a bit unusual to see AP use the word “lover” in a report?

      Can’t wait for this to be over.

  38. November 12, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    But but but 2016, 2016…

  39. 153 globalcitizenlinda
    November 12, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    if I was setting the agenda for the Dems, I would use the pending fiscal clif to de-couple/separate the middle-class cut.tax cut from the high-income tax cut.

    here is how I would do it:

    I would let the Bush tax cuts expire at midnight on the date they are set to expire. then after a short “legal” while (e.g. 5 to 10 minutes) that night, I would ask the congress and senate to come back into session (that very evening) and pass the middle-class tax cut. I would dare ANY gop critter to oppose the middle-class tax cut

  40. November 12, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    ABL has another weird snipped on the Petraeus case. Apparently the original FBI agent allegedly sent shirtless pictures to the woman who complained about the harassing emails. FBI removed him from the case for fear he had become ‘obsessed’. Tres weird. http://angryblackladychronicles.com/2012/11/12/fbi-agent-investigating-petraeus-scandal-under-investigation-himself/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AngryBlackLady+%28Angry+Black+Lady+Chronicles%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

  41. November 12, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Want to empty out your twitter feed? Put the word Petraeus in your global filter. Poof.

  42. November 12, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Since the election Romney has been losing ‘likes’ on facebook at a rate of about 847 per hour (down 50,000). Of course some of those were paid anyway. However, since the election President Obama has gained 900,000 likes up to 33,000,000; 21,000,000 more than Romney ever had.


    Here is a real-time graph of Romney losing ‘likes’


    • 159 amk for obama
      November 13, 2012 at 12:28 am

      Amazing how the establishment, the pollsters, the bw media and the big donors, tried to steal this election with complete misdirection.

      • 160 jacquelineoboomer
        November 13, 2012 at 12:59 am

        Unfortunately, not so amazing. I’d pick the word appalling. And add a bunch more words, but WE WON so I’m good. Until next time. The righteous and just side of this coin is getting smarter each election, and the misdirection will be weaker next time. If we all stay active, that is. We just need to remember EACH November.

  43. 161 utaustinliberal
    November 13, 2012 at 12:00 am

  44. 165 jacquelineoboomer
    November 13, 2012 at 12:50 am

    Late to the party … but I’m sure many of you caught the head of the Steelworkers Union on The Ed Show tonight. The words coming out of his mouth were like poetry … the unions realize now they did not get behind the President in his first term, as they should have, but will hit the streets to help him in his second. They’re working together with the other unions to support him. They know the first issue out there isn’t the deficit; it’s JOBS. If you haven’t already and get the chance to hear his words, I highly recommend it.


  45. 169 utaustinliberal
    November 13, 2012 at 1:05 am

    This is freaking hilariously insane.

  46. November 13, 2012 at 2:11 am

  47. 174 jacquelineoboomer
    November 13, 2012 at 2:11 am

    This major “awakening” that Republicans are talking about – that they’ve “learned” from President Obama’s re-election – is total hogwash.

    • November 13, 2012 at 2:17 am

      Yes, Jacqueline. They not only have learned nothing, they are hermetically protected from any form of knowledge acquisition.

      • 176 jacquelineoboomer
        November 13, 2012 at 2:27 am

        Yes, and no sense trying to reason with people like Republicans – to change their views – when they didn’t use reason to concoct their views in the first place.

    • November 13, 2012 at 2:18 am

      It is 100% hogwash, Jacqueline. All they will do is what they usually do–repackage old, failed polices and try selling them as something different. I’ve been watching republicans for over 30 years now, and they’re singing the same song in 2012 that they were singing in the 1980s.

  48. 179 jacquelineoboomer
    November 13, 2012 at 2:23 am

    In a way, it’s annoying that Roger Simon, a journalist, gets a lot of his tweet material from David Letterman, a comedian, but this is a great jab:

  49. November 13, 2012 at 2:40 am

    I leave for a few days to celebrate our big win and come back to news of TODville’s Empress for Life upcoming coffee table book, “Porta Potties are inspirational.” Geez Empress, where do you get the time? 😛

  50. 181 susanne
    November 13, 2012 at 2:58 am

    pretty fast work–the comic version:

  51. 182 Jewelz
    November 13, 2012 at 5:25 am

    Susan Rice will be an excellent choice for SoS. President Obama likes her and trust her. She was a major foreign policy adviser for then Senator Obama along with Samantha Powers since 2006. She’s been my first choice for SoS since 2009, and I hope she gets the job. She will follow in the footsteps of Madeline Albright as someone who went from being a UN ambassador to being the Secretary of State. She is brilliant, and already has a record working in international affairs in her current position as a UN ambassador. President Obama needs someone he can trust as CIA director. And I think Michele Flourney will be a brilliant choice if she doesn’t get The Secretary of Defense position. She was appointed by President Obama to serve as Under Secretary of Defense Policy under Bob Gate, and some have speculated that she might be the first female Secretary of Defense in history. Chuck Hagel is also someone that might be a good and pragmatic choice as CIA director. Senator John Kerry will be great in any capacity he chooses in the Obama administration.

  52. 183 globalcitizenlinda
    November 13, 2012 at 5:25 am

    all the air time and electronic space being taken up by the former CIA head and the issues surrounding the ppl in his network are taking up the space we should be using to push our policy priorities for PBO’s second term

  53. 184 amk for obama
    November 13, 2012 at 6:18 am

    Fewer incoming members of the House and Senate have signed the pledge against tax increases run by Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform, in a reflection not only of the seats that Democrats gained but of the success they’ve enjoyed in vilifying Norquist.

    About a dozen newly elected House Republicans refused to sign the anti-tax pledge during their campaigns, and another handful of returning Republicans have disavowed their allegiance to the written commitment.

    With Democrats picking up seven or eight seats, that means the pledge guides fewer than the 218 members needed for a majority. In the Senate, where Republicans lost two seats, just 39 members of the chamber are pledge-signers, according to the group’s records. That is a drop from 238 members of the House and 41 senators who committed to the pledge at the start of the 112th Congress.

    Norquist’s diminished clout could have ramifications during intensifying negotiations over the so-called “fiscal cliff” and a grand bargain on taxes, spending and entitlements that leaders in both parties want to strike in the coming months.

    • November 13, 2012 at 6:44 am

      Still no mention of the fact that in taking this pledge they violated their oath of office.

      • 186 Ladyhawke
        November 13, 2012 at 7:18 am

        This is the point that drives me crazy – the Grover Norquist no taxes pledge violates the oath of office. Members of congress take their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution and then overlay that with a pledge to never raise taxes from some guy outside of the the government. Then the guy outside of the government threatens to primary the members of congress if the pledge is not adhered to. I just don’t understand why this is not getting more attention. Willingly relinquishing their judgment to someone else means they are not fit to be public servants. They need to be exposed and ridiculed for violating the public trust. Ultimately, they should be voted out of office.

  54. 187 globalcitizenlinda
    November 13, 2012 at 6:19 am

    it is going to be a long couple of days as the media focuses away from what I believe is more important

    • 188 amk for obama
      November 13, 2012 at 6:23 am

      I give it a week of faux poutrage before the hack media latches on to the next shiny object.

      • November 13, 2012 at 6:34 am

        Yep. It may not even be that long. They LLLOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVEEEEEEE shiny objects. Gees………..If only they would do their jobs. Yes, I know that’s a pipe dream.

    • 190 prettyfoot58
      November 13, 2012 at 6:37 am

      The problem is that we have so many newsy folks offering opinion without having all the facts…but with the news media that we have it does not let lack of facts get in the way,,,,every day a new piece of the puzzle surfaces…it is hard to know what really happend

  55. 191 amk for obama
    November 13, 2012 at 6:32 am

    Hey df

    Kyrsten Sinema Called Winner in CD-9, Defeating Vernon Parker


  56. 194 amk for obama
    November 13, 2012 at 6:39 am

    • November 13, 2012 at 7:05 am

      In 2014, 20 democrats have to defend their Seats in the Senate, as opposed to 12 for Republicans. These include, Landrieu, Pryor etc…
      The conservative democrats, up for re-election are a concern.
      Thus, we need to flip a few of their Seats.
      As for the House, I would assume 17 Seats is a lot easier than 26 Seats?

  57. 196 prettyfoot58
    November 13, 2012 at 6:39 am

    Gooood Morning everyone….MsChipppps….GM TOD…..

  58. November 13, 2012 at 6:54 am

    How can they be short? Unless, Democrats are voting against it?
    And of course, the liberal bedwetters will blame POTUS. Only difference is, the ramifications are, it does not hurt his re-election prospects. So, their is that…

  59. November 13, 2012 at 6:56 am

    • 200 hopefruit2
      November 13, 2012 at 8:09 am

      Tell The Hill that I said that this is par for the course.

      • 202 Ladyhawke
        November 13, 2012 at 8:23 am

        Exactly HF. The hand wringing over key changes during the second term is ridiculous. This is nothing new, it’s expected. Some of these high pressure jobs just can’t be sustained for more than two or four years. The toll it takes on families and personal life is enormous. It’s the logical time for advisers or members of the cabinet to move on. And in most cases, the desire to leave has been stated so that replacements can be arranged.

        • 203 hopefruit2
          November 13, 2012 at 8:28 am

          These attempts to throw cold water on PBO’s 2nd term is just the MSM’s way of trying to comfort themselves after their humiliating defeat last Tuesday.

  60. November 13, 2012 at 7:22 am

    I just have to bring this to you, because I think this is utterly ludicrous.
    Gingrich just said, that the Republicans in the House should go to the President with the Ryan budget, saying thru can guarantee the Votes, and that the President should then get the votes from the democrats.
    And that is leadership?
    Yeah! Okay? If the President does that, then he has been hypnotized, or threatened!
    Gingrich is smoking Crack!

    • 205 Ladyhawke
      November 13, 2012 at 8:02 am

      Seriously, who gives a rats arse what Newt Gingrich thinks about anything. That fact that his mug is still showing up on cable shows to opine about (fill in the blank) says volumes about the depths to which journalism has fallen in this country. Why he isn’t laughed at is a mystery to me. One of his claims to fame was a memo telling his caucus how to vilify Democrats. He is a vicious blowhard desperate for attention and relevance. The disgraced former speaker writes a book every other week and spends most of his time strutting around like a peacock. He’s very impressed with himself. But most of the time he’s just talking loud and not saying nothing coherent. The only thing that he has said that I agree with is that Mitt Romney was a liar. He got that right, but then we knew that.

  61. November 13, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Mornin’ Jovie. They just can’t fathom that a black man and the American people would have a totally different point of view.

  62. 211 dotster3
    November 13, 2012 at 7:52 am

    Wow—now the gen. who succeeded Petraeus in Afghan—–Gen. John Allan—–now revealed to be involved with the Tampa woman, Jill Kelley, the subject of Broadwell’s harassing emails—–20,000-30,000 emails etc. I wondered about that when I read one of Broadwell’s emails warned ‘stay away from the generals!’ The generals—–frisky!
    This is definitely a movie.

  63. 221 Ladyhawke
    November 13, 2012 at 8:12 am


    Petraeus sex scandal manages to get even stranger

    By Steve Benen


    Based on what we’re learning this morning, it appears much of this scandal was fueled by bizarre personal conduct, and a strange FBI agent who was a little too eager to undermine President Obama before the election with a controversy that had nothing to do with the White House.

    Indeed, had the FBI agent in question not believed weird conspiracy theories about the president, he wouldn’t have gone to Republican lawmakers, who in turn wouldn’t have pushed the issue, which means the Petraeus scandal — which involved no criminal wrongdoing — probably would have gone away without further incident.



    • 222 hopefruit2
      November 13, 2012 at 8:15 am

      I knew this little “Patraeus” story had Republican fingerprints all over it. It backfired – as is almost ALWAYS the case when the GOP tries to hurt our President.

      • 223 lisalovesobama
        November 13, 2012 at 8:31 am

        Eric Cantor is such an ass. That can’t be stated enough.

      • 224 Ladyhawke
        November 13, 2012 at 8:32 am

        I was thinking the same thing HF. The hazards of being in the “GOP BUBBLE” strikes again. These fool will never learn. In their zeal to hurt President Obama they have succeeded in shooting themselves in the foot. This is a hot mess.

      • 225 dotster3
        November 13, 2012 at 8:33 am

        Unless President Obama was ordering these generals to have affairs, I never understood how this mess could ever be construed to harm him. In the meantime, this is the biggest military scandal of all time—-this story will not be going away any time soon—-the 2 most powerful military leaders now entangled in this same mess.

      • 226 Ladyhawke
        November 13, 2012 at 8:52 am

        And then there is the photo of Karl Rove standing next to Paula Broadwell.

  64. 227 proudmemberofglobalzero
    November 13, 2012 at 8:12 am

    A little OT but I wanted to tell you a true story from yesterday. I was at work and a very nice lady came up to my counter. I don’t know how the conversation started…I know I didn’t direct it to politics but, that is where the conversation ended up. We had a great chat for about 5 minutes. She was the second Republican that came up to me and asked, “You don’t really believe that Romney would gut Medicaid and cut SS and Medicare?” I asked her if she ever watched Romney voice support the Ryan Budget. I told her that I read it, sent it to my parents in a PDF and would be happy to send her one. I also reminded her that it DID pass the house without one Democratic vote. I then asked her if she was a FOX viewer. She said she was. We talked about 5 minutes and I think that she has now left the dark side. We made a date for Friday to meet for a drink and I would answer any questions she has about PBO and the way Democratic voters think. I also told her to start watching the votes on CSPAN when they happen. It seems she has 2 in college too. She also has a Pell Grant and I told her the last vote the House took was to get rid of the tax break we get as parents to send our children to college. I told her it did not pass but every Republican voted for it.

    We have plans for Friday.

    • 228 hopefruit2
      November 13, 2012 at 8:18 am

      Thanks for sharing this encounter with us proud. And good luck on helping to bring this (apparently brainwashed) woman to her senses with facts and information. One person at a time! 🙂 🙂

    • 229 desertflower
      November 13, 2012 at 8:24 am

      DO fill us in after the Friday meeting:) One person at a time….they were snowed, used/abused and lied to….for YEARS. I hope you gently point that out to her:)

    • 230 Cheryllou
      November 13, 2012 at 8:25 am

      Informing the ill-in-formed one person at a time. Brilliant!

    • 231 lisalovesobama
      November 13, 2012 at 8:25 am

      Yay!!! Awesome sauce, proud!

    • November 13, 2012 at 8:25 am

      WOW! I love this story! You’ve made my day because it means that people are starting to open their eyes and ears to realize that Democrats have been unfairly demonized and Republicans have been undermining the nation with impunity. I hope your connection goes well. If you don’t mind, would love to hear how it turns out!!

  65. 233 desertflower
    November 13, 2012 at 8:25 am

    How about this party of “family values” huh? Love to tell everyone else how to run THEIR private lives….while their’s are in shambles. Just sayin’.

  66. 234 desertflower
    November 13, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Good for him!! http://www.democraticunderground.com/111625628

    Owner of Bob’s Red Mill Natural Foods Gives His Company To His 209 Employees

    Moore’s work is a way of life and his employees are a second family, which is why he announced this week that he’s handing over the keys to his 209 employees.

    Moore said he’s gotten countless buy-out offers over the years, but he couldn’t envision selling the business to a stranger.

    “It’s the only business decision that I could make,” he said. “I don’t think there’s anybody worthy to run this company but the people who built it. I have employees with me right now that have been with me for 30 years. They just were committed to staying with me now and they’re going to own the company.”

    The company will now be run by an Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) — the idea being that a company’s stock is put in a retirement plan for its employees, but the stock is never held or bought directly by individuals. When a vested employee retires, he can pull out money from the trust.


    THIS is how you care for your loyal employees!!

    • November 13, 2012 at 8:33 am

      YAYAYAY!! Thanks so much for this item, df. Bob’s Red Mill makes great specialty flours. If you’re ever in need of a superb grain product and care to support them, here ya go:


      • November 13, 2012 at 8:34 am

        Some of the better chain grocery stores and small local bulk markets also carry them.

      • 237 desertflower
        November 13, 2012 at 8:39 am

        Yes…I think that I’ll give them by FULL support:) I hope others here follow suit….this is the kind of company I can get behind!

        • November 13, 2012 at 8:46 am

          I know he’s been inundated with buyout offers like so many other great businesses who offer really special products made with care and integrity. I used to live next door to the couple who founded Odwalla and they eventually sold it to Coca Cola. Scharffen Berger sold to Hershey a few years back. These people made a lot of money. So it says a lot about his character.

    • 240 susanne
      November 13, 2012 at 3:46 pm

      wow! thanks for posting this cheering news. i love and use bob’s products every day, so supporting them is a treat!

  67. 241 Ladyhawke
    November 13, 2012 at 8:40 am

    Obamacare Rebellion, Chapter Two: Oligarchs’ Revenge

    By Karoli


    Batten down the hatches, everyone, and don’t be distracted by the ongoing Republican breast-beating about how their policies are so great but they just aren’t communicating them in a happy way. Forget about that, because the oligarchs are rumbling, shaking their fists and stomping their hooves over Obamacare.

    Yes, that’s right. Now that it will not be repealed and will be the law of the land, they’re making no bones about it. You’ve already heard about the miserable jerk who prayed with his employees before letting over 100 of them go, but it’s about to get better.
    Each and every one of these CEOs is not complaining about providing health insurance to their employees. They’re trying to figure out ways to avoid paying the penalty for not providing it. This is because they have no intention of providing health insurance to their employees despite the fact that in every case they could in fact adopt a nationwide group insurance plan which would be less costly after tax deductions than paying the penalty.

    The only good thing about all of this saber-rattling is that it finally highlights why it is essential that health care be completely and finally severed from employment. Until that happens, these banker-owned food chains and other franchise chains with bankers at the helm will continue to whine and moan and screw employees in the name of keeping their “shareholders” happy.



  68. November 13, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Still trying to catch up here. Great job Chips.

    Good morning TOD family.

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