‘Snowden is a Spy’

Michael Tomasky: Snowden Is a Spy

If this South China Morning Post story is right, Edward Snowden isn’t admirable in the least and is nothing more than a spy:

Edward Snowden secured a job with a US government contractor for one reason alone – to obtain evidence on Washington’s cyberspying networks….

That’s a spy. Period……

A jerk. But more importantly, a run-of-the-mill lawbreaker. The “whistleblower” case was always a little bit dodgy. Whistleblowers expose criminal acts. He just didn’t like his country’s policy. That’s fine. Millions agree with him. But we can’t live in a world where citizens are allowed to do what he’s done without repercussion.

Full post here

145 Responses to “‘Snowden is a Spy’”

  1. 1 Roberta in MN
    June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    I can’t keep up with all that is going on.

  2. 2 Judith Fardig
    June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    Finally, the truth comes out!

  3. June 24, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Didn’t I say in my sign off last night that today would be interesting?

  4. 6 sherijr
    June 24, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    And there we have it. Well TOD ain’t exactly shocked: SPY yep.

  5. 7 amk for obama
    June 24, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    chinese blew this. russians seem to be playing smarter. At least for now.

    • 8 Roberta in MN
      June 24, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      I think the Chinese new all along what was coming down the pike. But it still will be interesting to find out who is funding this guy.

      • 9 Bill
        June 24, 2013 at 2:36 pm

        Greenwald said WikiLeaks is helping him with the funding.

      • 12 amk for obama
        June 24, 2013 at 2:37 pm

        No, the chinese have shown they are still green at these international cat & mouse games. They should have done what the russians are doing now. Especially when there was a warrant and an extradition request was made.

        As kerry, there will be consequences.

        • 13 arapaho415
          June 24, 2013 at 2:53 pm

          Agree with you, amk.

          China has sought isolation from the outside world for its citizens, but that also means their government is more isolated than some others.

          Russia’s espionage and Putin’s tactics have a long 20th century heritage, so they have first hand knowledge to fall back on. The Chinese, not so much.

          Plus, the Eastern mindset is different than the West’s (Japanese-American female here, no offense intended).

    • June 24, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      As the US has reminded Russia, we’ve sent plenty of their criminals back to them.

  6. 17 Roberta in MN
    June 24, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Thanks for the post. This story isn’t done yet. I expect a lot more to come out. What do you all think?

  7. June 24, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    So if you decide in advance to break the law . . . you're definitely not a whistleblower: http://t.co/1I61cEJhnR— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) June 24, 2013

  8. June 24, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    This would appear to be treason, by definition http://t.co/pUudMUy8sz— Taegan Goddard (@politicalwire) June 24, 2013

  9. June 24, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    How many of #snowden's supporters are quickly changing their definition of "hero" to include, "plotted to steal secrets from the U.S.?" #P2— ExtremeLiberal (Jim) (@ExtremeLiberal) June 24, 2013

  10. 22 jacquelineoboomer
    June 24, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Posts are moving fast! Thanks for all the info. Not sure if this was posted yet:

  11. 23 utaustinliberal
    June 24, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    SCOTUS, Anti-women bills in Texas, and now this from Snowden. Monday is not playing that’s for sure.

  12. June 24, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I'm so old I can remember when @TheReidReport IDed Greenwald's downfall 2 wks ago http://t.co/I1ixmogimJ via @sullydish— allanbrauer (@allanbrauer) June 24, 2013

  13. 29 Don
    June 24, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I turn my head for one moment and the last post had 100 comments and this post is flying off the shelf.

  14. June 24, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Hate to state the obvious but truth will out! There are no words to describe his behavior.

  15. 31 cluny
    June 24, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    RE GG. Just after his narcissistic tweet trumpeting his ‘early work’ (in February) with Snowden began attracting attention Greenwald was quick to put out the story that he had communicated with Snowden in February but didn’t start working with him until later due to his own unfamiliarity with special ‘encryption’ programmes:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-glenn-greenwald_n_3416978.html This was immediate CYA mode by Greenwald – check the time between the moment his tweet appeared and then this story/excuse developed. I doubt GG will be punished in any way – unfortunately. What do others think?

    • 32 forus50
      June 24, 2013 at 2:41 pm

      At worst he will be charged with conspiracy if Snowden coughs it up about their spying romance. At best he will be a laughingstock for the world. He already was for anyone who had read his drivel in the past; now all the libertarians will have a hard time figuring out who their next leader is. Hope for the worst in this case. 🙂

  16. 33 utaustinliberal
    June 24, 2013 at 2:38 pm

  17. 34 57andfemale
    June 24, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    WTF indeed:

    • June 24, 2013 at 2:46 pm

      So I guess Trayvon was itching for a fight with Zimmerman because he knew the concrete sidewalk was there. Makes so much sense

    • 36 Layla
      June 24, 2013 at 2:50 pm

      Top Conservative Cat ‏@TeaPartyCat 7m
      Defense: “Trayvon Martin’s parents shouldn’t be allowed to remain in the courtroom because jury might realize he was human.” #zimmermantrial

      Joy Reid Joy Reid ‏@TheReidReport 10m
      Judge: case law clearly states that the victims’ family has an absolute right to be here in the courtroom. #zimmermantrial

      Joy Reid Joy Reid ‏@TheReidReport 12m
      Mark O’Mara now arguing that Trayvon Martin’s parents should not be allowed to remain in the courtroom during arguments. #zimmermantrial

  18. June 24, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Most people on TOD have pointed out these obvious inconsitences in the motives & actions of Snowden & Greenwald. Media chose to ignore these glaring concerns

  19. June 24, 2013 at 2:42 pm

  20. June 24, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Did I miss a panda chase while reporting on media rights within Ecuador? Damn.— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) June 24, 2013

  21. 43 Don
    June 24, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    No Greenwald, the “my name is Bennett and I’m not in it” routine isn’t going to work this time. You are the ring leader for this entire mess. You had better call “Dewey Cheatem and Howell” cuz yo ass done ate the bones.

  22. 44 4morefor44
    June 24, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    not sure if this is confirmed, but would love to be a fly on that wall.

    • 45 arapaho415
      June 24, 2013 at 2:56 pm

      4more, was about to post Dilanian’s tweet.

      No indication how he knows this is the case (although it’s the most likely scenario).

      Has anyone else here seen an MSM tweet that confirms?

    • 46 Don
      June 24, 2013 at 2:59 pm

      So Snowden steals our secrets, flies to Hong Kong and expose our secrets and is debriefed by Hong Kong, then flies to Russia and exposes more of your secrets and is now being debriefed by the Russians. And he’s considered a hero?

  23. June 24, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    • 52 arapaho415
      June 24, 2013 at 3:06 pm

      Here’s hoping the MSM finally take their blinders off at see what GG really is. (All they need to do is scroll down his Twitter timeline and search for “Obama” to see that his tweets seem personal in nature, dripping with venom and pure hatred.)

      I got myself blocked yesterday for a tweet similar to this one (not by the MSM addressed in this tweet) because some media-type people don’t want to consider the truth. (Meant to end my tweet with a question mark, not a period.)

  24. 53 donna dem 4 obama
    June 24, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Jon is so on point with this!!!

    • June 24, 2013 at 2:57 pm

      Exactly!!! And the GOP/MSM is doing this deliberately. To keep people uninformed or misinformed and thus disengaged, or voting against their own interests to benefit the GOP and help maintain the status quo.

      • 55 arapaho415
        June 24, 2013 at 3:10 pm

        Yes, the MSM and GOP are pretty much one and the same for now.

        MSM try to shape the narrative (and POTUS poll standings) by reporting on differences of opinion as “OMG Obama scandal!!!”

        Those with egg on their faces must be held accountable (including Yahoo! for doing nothing about their so-called journalist @RachelRHartman).

  25. June 24, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    ” We returned 7 individuals at the request of the Russian authorities in the past few years ”

  26. 57 Layla
    June 24, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Well there you go…for the “pray away shit crowd”


    DALLAS — Former U.S. Senator and GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum has been named CEO of a company that makes movies meant for a Christian audience.

    EchoLight Studios said Monday that Santorum will serve as head of the company. The company’s first film is slated for release in the fall, and it has another movie in post-production.

    The company says Santorum has spent the past year working with Dallas-based EchoLight.

    Santorum says in a statement that Dallas can become the Hollywood of the faith-and-family movie market.

  27. June 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm

  28. June 24, 2013 at 3:03 pm


  29. June 24, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    • 66 arapaho415
      June 24, 2013 at 3:15 pm

      Please include @ChrisLHayes in future GG-related tweets.

      Derbingle had me on the floor laughing this morning when he said about Hayes & Greenwald, “What are they, Huntley and Brinkley?” ROFL

  30. 67 yardarm756
    June 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Good afternoon mates. Here’s another of my infamous e-mails.


    Thank goodness there’s a name for this disorder.

    Age-Activated Attention Deficit Disorder.

    This is how it manifests:

    I decide to water my garden.
    As I turn on the hose in the driveway,
    I look over at my car and decide it needs washing.

    As I start toward the garage,
    I notice mail on the porch table that
    I brought up from the mail box earlier.

    I decide to go through the mail before I wash the car.

    I lay my car keys on the table,
    Put the junk mail in the garbage can under the table,
    And notice that the can is full.

    So, I decide to put the bills back
    On the table and take out the garbage first…

    But then I think,
    Since I’m going to be near the mailbox
    When I take out the garbage anyway,
    I may as well pay the bills first.

    I take my check book off the table,
    And see that there is only one check left.
    My extra checks are in my desk in the study,
    So I go inside the house to my desk where
    I find the can of Pepsi I’d been drinking.

    I’m going to look for my checks,
    But first I need to push the Pepsi aside
    So that I don’t accidentally knock it over.

    The Pepsi is getting warm,
    And I decide to put it in the refrigerator to keep it cold.

    As I head toward the kitchen with the Pepsi,
    A vase of flowers on the counter
    Catches my eye–they need water.

    I put the Pepsi on the counter and
    Discover my reading glasses that
    I’ve been searching for all morning.
    I decide I better put them back on my desk,
    But first I’m going to water the flowers.

    I set the glasses back down on the counter ,
    Fill a container with water and suddenly spot the TV remote.
    Someone left it on the kitchen table.

    I realize that tonight when we go to watch TV,
    I’ll be looking for the remote,
    But I won’t remember that it’s on the kitchen table,
    So I decide to put it back in the den where it belongs,
    But first I’ll water the flowers.

    I pour some water in the flowers,
    But quite a bit of it spills on the floor.

    So, I set the remote back on the table,
    Get some towels and wipe up the spill.

    Then, I head down the hall trying to
    Remember what I was planning to do.

    At the end of the day:
    The car isn’t washed,
    The bills aren’t paid,
    There is a warm can of
    Pepsi sitting on the counter,
    The flowers don’t have enough water,
    There is still only 1 check in my check book,
    I can’t find the remote,
    I can’t find my glasses,
    And I don’t remember what I did with the car keys.
    Then, when I try to figure out why nothing got done today,
    I’m really baffled because I know I was busy all day,
    And I’m really tired.

    I realize this is a serious problem,
    And I’ll try to get some help for it, but first I’ll check my e-mail….

    Do me a favor.
    Forward this message to everyone you know,
    Because I don’t remember who I’ve sent it to.

    Don’t laugh — if this isn’t you yet, your day is coming!

    P.S. I don’t remember who sent it to me, so if it was you, I’m sorry


  31. 70 Linda
    June 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    WASHINGTON — Animal keepers from the National Zoo captured a red panda in a Washington neighborhood Monday after it went missing from its enclosure at the zoo.

    The male named Rusty was captured in a bush in the Adams Morgan neighborhood on Monday afternoon, said National Zoo spokeswoman Pamela Baker-Masson. The animal was being taken to the zoo’s animal hospital for a checkup.

    Unlike giant pandas, red pandas are not members of the bear family. Red pandas are slightly bigger than a domestic cat and look similar to a raccoon. They are listed as vulnerable in the wild.

    Rusty arrived at the zoo in April from a zoo in Lincoln, Neb., and was in quarantine for several weeks until he went on exhibit in early June. He will turn 1 year old in July.

    Red pandas are highly territorial, so zoo officials did not believe he would have traveled far. Rusty, it seems, wanted to explore his new city.

    Animal keepers discovered he was missing Monday morning and started searching the zoo at 8 a.m. Residents in the surrounding neighborhoods may have been on the lookout as well as photos were posted on Twitter just before the animal was caught.

    The zoo began sending out messages about his disappearance Monday morning on Twitter in case someone saw him.

    • 71 Bill
      June 24, 2013 at 3:14 pm

      There are a lot of good bars in Adams Morgan. Maybe Rusty wanted do a little bar hopping.

      • 72 Layla
        June 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm

        Bear in a Bar

        This bear walks into a bar. Then he sits down and orders a beer.
        The bartender, amazed that this bear can actually talk, gives him a beer.

        The bear says, “What do I owe you?”

        The bartender stops and thinks for a moment.

        “Even though this bear is smart,” thinks the bartender, “he probably hasn’t been in many bars.”

        So the bartender says, “That’ll be ten dollars.”

        The bear forks over the money and starts drinking his beer.

        After a few minutes, the bartender can’t restrain his curiosity, so he walks back over to the bear and tries to strike up a conversation.

        “You know, we don’t get many bears in this bar.”

        The bear looks up from his beer and says, “Well, at ten bucks a beer, I’m not surprised.”

  32. June 24, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    • 76 arapaho415
      June 24, 2013 at 3:21 pm

      I’ve always hated GG’s columns because he is too verbose, circuitous.

      I skimmed this article. Did he mention donor *disclosure* at all? In addition to the ludricrous idea that corporations are popek the undisclosed nature of campaign contributions is what most reasonable people objected to in Citizens United.

      Cannot believe that the Guardian was hoodwinked into believing GG would be an asset for them.

      • June 24, 2013 at 3:33 pm

        “Did he mention donor *disclosure* at all?”

        Thank you arapaho415 and this is my point exactly. Citizens United wasn’t about corporate funding – it was primarily about disclosure and Greenwald knew perfectly well that Democrats and PBO were far more honest in their disclosure of donors than the Republicans. Remember, this was after the Tea Party had emerged, and despite MSM efforts, most honest and thinking people suspected that the Tea Party was not grassroots, but astroturfed by undisclosed CORPORATE sources.

    • June 24, 2013 at 3:28 pm

      When I read these words by Greenwald – A chill came to my spine.

      // “I’m even more unpersuaded by the argument — seen in today’s New York Times Editorial — that this decision will “ensure that Republican candidates will be at an enormous advantage in future elections.” What evidence is there for that? Over the past five years, corporate money has poured far more into the coffers of the Democratic Party than the GOP — and far more into Obama’s campaign coffers than McCain’s (especially from Wall Street). If anything, unlimited corporate money will be far more likely to strengthen incumbents than either of the two parties (and unlimited union spending, though dwarfed by corporate spending, will obviously benefit Democrats more). Besides, if it were the case that this law restricts the ability of Republicans far more than Democrats to raise money in election cycles, doesn’t that rather obviously intensify the First Amendment concerns?” //

      Wasn’t that the entire premise of the “Occupy” movement – to get money out of politics? And weren’t these “Occupiers” advancing the false narrative that PBO and DEMS were taking in too much corporate $$$, while (like Greenwald) disingenuously pretending to be unaware of all the undisclosed corporate money going to the Repubs?

      And, contrary to Greenwald’s argument, Citizen’s United wasn’t simply about corporate funding – it was specifically about DISCLOSURE of funding sources and prohibition of shady front groups. Which is exactly why Greenwald LOVED it so much. While he claims to be all for “transparency” he means that transparency should only apply to one set of individuals/groups and not others (including himself and his shady front groups).

      No wonder Glennie can’t stand Barack Obama – who beat Citizens United AND all their shady front group alliances at their own game with his hard-earned, fully-disclosed grassroots support!!!!

      • June 24, 2013 at 3:35 pm

        Great pot babe! Greenwald is a Koch paid whore.

      • 84 4morefor44
        June 24, 2013 at 3:53 pm

        note that little trick the white-privilege progressive always do with the “wall st money” going more to obama? they purposely mix individual people’s donations that work in the financial services industry, so could be a secretary who happens to work in the charles scwab office in toledo that donated $50 to obama campaign, with the mega-donations from actual Wall St PACs and the high dollar fundraisers, which are overwhelmingly republican-supporting. since president obama always dominated in the individual donation amounts, it skews the total number when lump all that together as “wall st money.”

        plus, the whole “union” thing…i saw report a while back that showed all unions added together on average spend less than 1% of total PAC expenditures each election cycle, with most being spent by all the big business PACs and other republican-supporting issue groups (which of course are also funded by the same republican-supporting milliion/billionaires). the false equivalency is unbelievable. greenwald is an amazing liar. disturbing.

      • 85 57andfemale
        June 24, 2013 at 4:06 pm

        This article sent a chill down my spine. These are the ravings of a RWNJ lunatic (redundancy deliberate).

        Always remember that GG ‘deferred’ to Bush as President to set foreign policy, even lying us into war.

        How in the hell did this lunatic get any ‘progressive’ cred anyway? Is he for legalizing marijuana, because that seems to be the only issue that LWNJ’s feel worthy enough of throwing out everything decent in this country and sing kumbaya with Rand Paul.

        Cesca is right – they are no more fact based than the tea party.

    • 86 COS
      June 24, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      It’s funny how Chris and Jim on Stephanie Miller were shocked when a caller told them that Greenwald had ties with the Cato institute. It sure would open a lot of far left eyes if the folks who are worshipping Greenwald and Snowden would do a little research on Greenwald.

  33. 88 4morefor44
    June 24, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    ugh. i know he’s been good on a lot of issues, but this one is going to be tough to overlook

    cenk is about a vile as it gets. how are you friends with a snowdenwald worshipper who is blaming michael hastings car cash as a hit by eric holder? disappointing by cesca.

    • June 24, 2013 at 3:35 pm

      The context of Bob’s tweet is this – http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/a-response-to-cenk-uygur-on-greenwald-snowden-and-the-nsa/#.Uch-mNmDTDw.twitter – in which Bob shows no mercy for the way Cenk distorted virtually everything about Bob’s reporting on Greenwald, Snowden, NSA, etc. He does acknowledge that they have been friends, but I’d say that ‘friendship’ has been severely strained.

      Two quotes (really worth reading the entire article):

      “The Obamabot Fallacy is used as a convenient and cozy shelter against cold, uncomfortable facts, not unlike the way conservatives dismiss facts they don’t like with the “liberal bias” fallacy. Don’t like the reality of evolution science? Liberal bias! Don’t like hearing that Greenwald got a fact wrong? An Obamabot wrote it therefore it must be invalid! Even though I took great care to provide respectable third party citations with links, the body of what I wrote must have been torn from White House talking points and therefore is suspicious because I’m clearly in the tank. So it gets written off. It’s all so familiar.”

      “To repeat something I wrote last week: I thought progressives were residents of the reality based community. I thought we looked at cold, hard empirical evidence and made policy judgments accordingly. I don’t see that happening here. I see rampant groupthink and grade-school bullying. I see myopic, kneejerk conclusions drawn about critics without even reading the material at issue. Naturally this concerns me. The question I have for anyone skeptical of my motives, including Cenk, why aren’t you concerned?”

  34. 92 Don
    June 24, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    Everybody is getting themselves lawyers, GG, the Guardian, and Booz Scaggs. But poor Snowden, he’s stuck in Russia watching videos of Putin wrestle a bear shirt less.

    • 93 Layla
      June 24, 2013 at 3:48 pm

      Lawyerd up!!!!! Ready to go!!!!!

    • 94 susanne
      June 24, 2013 at 4:18 pm

      is that the new water-boarding? i’d sure tell them anything to not watch! 🙂

    • June 24, 2013 at 4:38 pm

      Who is paying for Snowden to travel the world spilling classified info? As a caller pointed out to Ed Schultz today, he must have some deep-pocketed supporters since he’s no longer working and is pretty much a fugitive. So glad that folks on this website (and a few others) figured out this “scandal” from the get go.

  35. 97 Don
    June 24, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    Follow the money, Snowden couldn’t get a job at Booz not with that flimsy background of his. And GG was just looking for a scoop to write about so I don’t think he could pull strings to get Snowden on the inside. That only leaves someone with tons of money and very powerful politically to get Snowden on the inside.

    • 98 Layla
      June 24, 2013 at 3:50 pm

      See connection between Booz and Cheney-Rumsfeld!

        • 100 Layla
          June 24, 2013 at 4:04 pm

          You know Don, PBO took some flack because he did not want to prosecute the previous admin, maybe he was just waiting for such a moment. I still believe that snowman’s newest revelations are part of a deal so PBO and AG Holder can go after the big fish!

  36. 101 Nena20409
    June 24, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    6-24-13 White House Press Briefings:

    By Jay “Clark Kent” Carney


  37. 102 arapaho415
    June 24, 2013 at 3:57 pm

  38. 104 Nena20409
    June 24, 2013 at 4:00 pm


    Andrew Ross Sorkin, a financial columnist for the New York Times and a commentator for CNBC, said on-air that he’d “almost arrest” Greenwald along with NSA leaker Edward Snowden, who fled Hong Kong for Russia on Sunday in the hopes of ultimately receiving asylum in Ecuador.

    • 106 Bill
      June 24, 2013 at 4:12 pm

      I fear the DOJ will not go after GG because of the backlash that would come from the press of being criminalized. I hope I am wrong.

      • 107 Nena20409
        June 24, 2013 at 4:23 pm

        It is the Law…….Follow the Law. The evidence is getting too Huge to ignore. I see you point. I agree with that pronouncement. But just Once, I would like our Team to Go all the way and apply the Law until these people scream not just Uncle…….But Uncle Sam 😉

      • 108 arapaho415
        June 24, 2013 at 4:25 pm

        I hope you’re wrong, because I absolute loath GG’s sanctimonious smugness.

        He really is a vile creature; he lashes out at his friends.

        But journalists are in lockstep about PRESS FREEDOM. It really sickens me that they spend so much time and (proverbial) ink on themselves, but yet drop the ball on issues that matter to Americans — contractor fraud, waste and unaccountability.

        MSM journalists seem to think that whining is part of their job description.

      • June 24, 2013 at 4:39 pm

        Those who are rational thinkers know that this goes waaaaaaaaaaaay beyond someone passing information to a journalist. As information continues to come out, the only conclusion is that crimes were committed beginning with the conspiracy to steal classified information to providing classified information to foreign entities.

        If there are still any journalists who have any integrity, they would condemn the actions of Greenwald (and Snowden) as well as anyone supporting their criminal activity.

  39. 110 MightyPamela
    June 24, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Not much in this world sadder than a dumb spy, eh? Sad, meaning in a pathetic way…

  40. 111 Jeff
    June 24, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    I had to take time off work and the computer because of lower back pain. Elexica? Can’t remember how it’s spelled. Had to go to the hospital and still not sure how I am going to pay for it. I’m covered by Medicare at the moment. However I called work to take time off due to this, it happened at work and my back still hasn’t fully recovered. It’s a bitch hope that I will be almost fully recovered by Wednesday.

  41. 115 Nena20409
    June 24, 2013 at 4:06 pm


    The day after Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald got in a heated exchange on Meet The Press with host David Gregory over whether he should be prosecuted for “aiding and abetting” Edward Snowden, Greenwald said the interview proved his longstanding belief — that Washington journalists are often too cozy with the politicians they’re supposed to be objectively covering.

    The very same DC/NY Journos GG has been going to their shows, appearing on the shows being allowed to spout his version of Lies, unchallenged until just on MTP on Sunday?

    The man is coming off the seams 😉

  42. 118 JER
    June 24, 2013 at 4:08 pm

  43. 119 Jovie
    June 24, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Is Ari Melber sticking up for Snowden right now?

    • June 24, 2013 at 4:13 pm

      Why am I not surprised?

    • June 24, 2013 at 4:15 pm

      Is he smoking crack? What does he mean the government has not traditionally charged people for passing information to publications? They found documents leaked by Manning in the possession of Osama Bin Laden. We know Snowden stole documents for the express purpose of sharing the information. Uh? What?

  44. June 24, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Ari Melber shut up and stop defending Snowden.

  45. June 24, 2013 at 4:14 pm

  46. June 24, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Sad News…

    “Singer Bobby ‘Blue’ Bland dies at 83”


  47. 129 susanne
    June 24, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    mornin’ tods! about time for a little dance party?

  48. June 24, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    That’s exactly my thoughts about this keystone issue and how it has suddenly become “THE” most important aspect of climate change when in reality it’s virtually a drop in the bucket….

  49. June 24, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    First time prosecutors have specified that Trayvon Martin was found "face down, his hands clutching his chest." #zimmermantrail— Joy Reid (@TheReidReport) June 24, 2013

  50. June 24, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Remember black folk. according to Zimmermans defense attorney, when we walk on the sidewalk were all armed and dangerous.. #zimmermantrail— JayRod (@LeviStraussHQ) June 24, 2013

    • 136 susanne
      June 24, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      and the weapon is the sidewalk! and the hoodie is pretty lethal, too. for, you know, suffocating people.

  51. 137 Jovie
    June 24, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    Leahy offers bill to sunset FISA provisions
    Pete Kasperowicz
    06/24/13 03:34 PM ET
    “We want to know what our government is doing and why,” Sen. Patrick Leahy said in offering the bill.…

    Where was he during bush administration?
    Scared shitless that’s where!

  52. June 24, 2013 at 4:31 pm

  53. 141 carolyn
    June 24, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Since I lived through the entire cold war, from beginning to end, and remember the Soviets and their secret police, the KGB, I am thinking that Snowden is not liking the “debriefing” he is going through right now. I see the initials are changed, it’s now, the FSB……but the institution is still the same one from the Tsarist days, the Okhrana, and the Soviet days, the KGB. There are no constitutional guidelines or restraints for these people, and if he doesn’t give them what they want, they’ll deal with him until he starts making stuff up.
    This is now like the old Soviet/US cat and mouse game, where 9/10ths of it is unseen, unnoted. We hear the top 1/10th, and it is not at all accurate. All sorts of public statements will be made, and they will have no significance. Our press has become so stupid, they won’t figure that out for weeks, if then.
    I’m afraid people of Snowden’s have a total lack of understanding of what the other parts of the world are like. They complain and complain about life here, and “infringement of their rights” they have NO idea what they’re talking about. This behavior really angers me. How he could betray this country, I have no use for him.
    From the beginning I said he was a cowardly traitor, and two weeks later I have been proved right. If he had been a genuine “whistleblower” he would have taken his laptops to the appropriate Congressional committee and launched his complaints with the people who could do something. At least people are no longer calling him a “whistleblower.” over the weekend it was “leaker” and now Tomasky is saying “spy” and others will follow. I say spy and turncoat and traitor.

    • 142 theo67
      June 24, 2013 at 4:40 pm

      Carolyn, you’re right about people like Snowden not realizing what the rest of the world is like when they spend their days complaining. Given that Darryl Issa is eager to push any supposed scandal that they can get their grubby hands on, did Snowden really think that if he had uncovered some real illegal activity, that Issa wouldn’t have jumped to expoit it? The question still remains: what illegal activity has Snowden uncovered? Did he not just reveal covert activities that the US government undertakes to keep the people safe? He’s a dirty spy – pure and simple.

  54. 144 Nena20409
    June 24, 2013 at 6:33 pm


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