Coming Up

11:55: First Lady Michelle Obama hosts the second annual Kids’ State Dinner

12:45: Press Briefing by Jay Carney

1:0: Kids State Dinner: Rachel Crow Musical Performance

2:0: Vice President Biden Speaks at Fire Fighter Memorial Service, Prescott Valley, Arizona

All at White House Live

138 Responses to “Coming Up”

  1. 5 ouapiti
    July 9, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Hello! Love the Kids State Dinner, such a great event!

  2. 7 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 11:45 am


    The list of laws, regulations, Supreme Court rulings, and Constitutional rights Republicans and conservatives circumvent, subvert, and violate is endless, but it demonstrates one simple premise; they believe they are not beholden to follow the law of the land under any circumstance. They specifically target laws that guarantee Americans the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness and no group is immune from their blatant disregard for the law save their precious corporations, the rich, and the fanatically religious. They have ratcheted up their assault on legally passed legislation since extremist teabaggers helped them gain control of state legislatures and the House of Representatives in the 2010 midterm elections, but they began their crusade 80 years ago with the New Deal and escalated their assault on regulations thirty years ago when a b-movie actor became president.

  3. 8 Nena20409
    July 9, 2013 at 11:46 am

    GM TODers. Congrats CarolMaeWY on your Gold.

    Later TODers.

  4. 9 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 11:48 am


    just because the NFL won’t partner with Obama to inform its viewers of the law’s many programs, the largest of which go into place in 2014, doesn’t mean the league and its players won’t benefit from it. In fact, Obamacare has a chance to redefine health care options for former NFL players while providing massive public relations relief to a league that has drawn criticism for how many of its veterans face health troubles after their careers. Soaring health care costs and major medical problems that don’t surface until years later, in fact, remain among the biggest challenges many NFL players face when their careers end.

    Former players who played at least three NFL seasons receive five years of health insurance paid in full by the league once they retire. After that, however, they are on their own, forced to pay for health insurance out of pocket. Even for players at the top of the income ladder, that causes problems: their careers leave them with an array of injuries and ailments that often qualify as pre-existing conditions. More than half of the NFL’s players are hurt each year, according to injury reports, and the cumulative effects lead to lifelong problems. NFL players are four times more likely than the general population to suffer from neurogenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and ALS and five times more likely to develop arthritis, according to the Washington Post. One of every four will eventually need joint replacement surgery. They are also at greater risk of suffering from cardiovascular disease and other chronic illnesses. That often leaves players without access to insurance that covers knees, hips, backs, or other joints, former players told the Post.

  5. July 9, 2013 at 11:49 am

    Congrats on 1st Carol … from the bottom of previous thread ….


  6. July 9, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Great lunch. . .

  7. 19 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 11:53 am

    This is rich…. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/edward-snowden-asylum-venezuela-93886.html?hp=f1

    Edward Snowden says he disclosed his details of U.S. surveillance programs because he doesn’t “want to live in a world where everything that I say – everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship – is recorded.”
    In that case, Venezuela could be a bit of a letdown for him.

    It’s an ironic position for Snowden, since it now seems his best shot at getting out of the Moscow airport, while avoiding a U.S. prison, means accepting help from a regime that’s known for the very abuses he’s crusaded against.
    Take it from Isabel Lara, a dual citizen of the United States and Venezuela who had a phone conversation between herself and her mother played and mocked on Venezuelan television in 2009 — because the government considered her mother a political opponent.

    “He’s going to a country that has no privacy, if he goes,” Lara told POLITICO. “The irony is that the government would be using him. They’d be using him as an example of all that’s wrong with America. And meanwhile, at home, they’re doing all of this stuff that’s even worse.”
    That includes expelling international observers for reporting on Venezuela’s human rights violations, as the government did in 2008 to José Miguel Vivanco, the Americas director for Human Rights Watch. Vivanco told POLITICO that “the accumulation of power in the executive branch and the erosion of human rights guarantees have enabled the Venezuelan government to intimidate, censor, and prosecute Venezuelans who criticize the president or thwart its political agenda.”

    • 20 anniebella
      July 9, 2013 at 12:07 pm

      Edward Snowden is full of alot of B.S. I hope when he is in Venezuela he will fight for those people’s civil rights too. Let’s see Snowden steal information from them and see what happen to him. I honestly can’t stand the guy.

    • 21 57andfemale
      July 9, 2013 at 12:27 pm

      Snowden could accomplish his goal by getting off the grid, if he so chose. What he cannot answer – and indeed I never hear asked — is what is effective policing of the grid when the world’s method of warfare has changed so dramatically?

      The grid means every time you pick up a landline or send a post card or use a coupon or a credit card or get a bank statement. For the convenience of instantaneous communication we have unleashed an information juggernaut. I am supportive of a substantive debate on how such policing is conducted. It should be an ongoing discussion in a democratic society, with oversight and common sense adjustments.

      I am sick and tired of the childish, “Don’t do that” with no answer for the dangers unleashed while we sit with our fingers in our ears and blindfolds on. It’s dereliction of duty of the commons to not deliver a reasonable amount of safety and security to its people, in addition to protection of privacy.

      Sure, I don’t want Romney or McCain to have that power over that information. The answer is – we elect people we trust. We take elections seriously, we vote in sufficient numbers that our government is a true representation of our people and our values and elect people worthy of the awesome responsibility.

      When I search for “history of the telegraph” my search engine ‘looks’ at every site on the internet to determine if there are combinations of words that fit my search. It is a meaningless search unless it has access to damn near everything available to search. The computer program does NOT read every utterance on every website – it eliminates 99.999999999% of what is there and focuses on the information I need. Why is this so difficult to understand by people who should take the time and responsibility to think things through to a logical, balanced solution?

    • 22 jackiegrumbacher
      July 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm

      I think that Venezuela is the perfect place for Snowden and when (if) he gets there, there is likely to be no way out. If he had stayed in the US, he would have had a fair trial and likely a very light sentence, after which he could have regained some kind of life. Venezuela represents a lifetime of prison with no chance of parole. Who will hire him? When will the Venezuela govt. be tired of supporting him? It’s tough to be poor and outlived your usefulness in a place where you have no family.

      • 23 Sandy1110
        July 9, 2013 at 6:40 pm

        The Snowden supporters cannot be reasoned with. They don’t even care that Venezuela has surveillance. They are totally convinced that Snowden will be tortured or killed by the U.S. Anything is better to them than coming back here. They think he’ll be safer in Venezuela.

        They’ve gone nuts.

  8. 24 anniebella
    July 9, 2013 at 11:54 am

    That little kid said when he met FLOTUS, he told her that his teacher said that she was the best First Lady ever.

  9. July 9, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Those are soma amazing children…they do us proud

  10. 31 utaustinliberal
    July 9, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    What an amazing group of kids. So happy they’re getting the whole nine yards.

  11. 32 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    very good read:


    As I’ve mentioned, my best friend is an HR VP for an American manufacturing company, and she would like to see employers get out of the health care business entirely. Insurance decisions of businesses have little to do with health care and are more about the price of raw materials or transportation or dividends, for example. Her preference is single payer of course, but she was one of the first people I talked to who thought the exchanges were an excellent idea. Of course the health insurance industry must be seriously regulated and insurance MUST be affordable and available to all – ACA is an important step in that direction. And the sticking point is that the money for the benefit of health insurance not go into corporate coffers, but to the employee in order to obtain affordable health insurance.

    This article supports some points of my friend’s view.

  12. July 9, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Is it over already? It’s 10:11am here.

  13. 40 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 12:13 pm

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  15. July 9, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Apropos of nothing, I thought of you well-read folks when I saw this on UK version Huff Puff Comedy section:

    Some of the viewer comments were even better than the original ideas!

    • 43 Dudette
      July 9, 2013 at 2:30 pm

      Awesome!! 🙂

    • 44 Dudette
      July 9, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      From the comments below the article:

      Philip K. Dick books (my favorite sci-fi author):

      Do Androids Ream of Electric Sheep?
      The Man In The High Caste
      Flow My Ears, The Policeman Said
      Galactic Po-Healer
      Cans of the Alphane Moon
      The Game-Payers of Titan
      Our Fiends from Frolix 8
      The Rack in Space
      The Man Whose Teet Were All Exactly Alike
      The Zap Gu
      Counter-Cock World
      Counter-Clock Word

      😀 😀 😀

  16. 45 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Never stopped them before! http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/07/house-republicans-could-face-voter-backlash-if-immigration-reform-stalls.html

    New Public Policy Polling surveys in 7 Congressional Districts across the country find that key Republicans could be in trouble if the House doesn’t pass immigration reform this year.

    The polls show two things:

    Republican and Independent voters want Congress to pass a solution to our country’s broken immigration system
    Many are less likely to support Republicans if the House fails to pass immigration reform this summer
    Voters in CA-10 (Jeff Denham), CA-21 (David Valadao), CA-31 (Gary Miller), CO-6 (Mike Coffman), MN-2 (John Kline), NV-3 (Joe Heck), and NY-11 (Mike Grimm) all say they would be less likely to vote for their Congressman next year if he opposes immigration reform. Voters in those districts also say they will be inclined to punish the Republican Party more broadly if the House GOP does not allow immigration reform to move forward.

    The reason voters would hold it against their officials if immigration reform does not pass is that there’s overwhelming support for it in each of these highly competitive districts. Anywhere from 61 to 69% support the proposal the Senate passed last month. There’s also a sense of urgency on the issue with 75 to 78% of voters in each district saying they think it’s important the US fix its immigration system this year.

    Here are District by District breakdowns for these polls:

    • 46 57andfemale
      July 9, 2013 at 12:30 pm

      I had read recently that due to gerrymandering, there are very few Congressional seats that Republicans hold that have more than 20% Hispanic. There is no incentive for them to support immigration reform.

      Unless you consider the good of the country outside of your insular little district. But that appears to be too much to ask.

      • 47 jackiegrumbacher
        July 9, 2013 at 3:58 pm

        57, I think the PPP polling shows that it’s not just Latinos who want immigration reform. Many voters–Republicans, Independents and Democrats alike–want a resolution to problems and don’t like the constant negativism coming from Congress. I read somewhere–sorry can’t remember where–that women are especially annoyed at representatives who don’t even try to compromise. You may see a lot of groups joining with Latinos to show their disgust for the inaction of Republicans in Congress.

        • 48 57andfemale
          July 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm

          You’re absolutely right. It would be typical of Republicans to think that gerrymandering all Latinos out of their district was good enough to be anti-immigration reform. I’m tired of simplistic stereotypes.

          And immigration reform is not the sole issue for Latinos. Anyone paying a little attention in 2012 would have seen that polling of Latinos consistently showed that jobs, health care and education were at the top of the list, including immigration reform. Also, the stereotype that Latinos are naturally conservative. Polling showed that to be a misconception as well.

          Unfortunately, for a lot of independents and Dem’s, frustration is a good excuse not to vote instead of doing their duty to make things better. Frustration/anger/hate drive Republicans to the polls. All we need to do is vote in sufficient numbers and we’ll get out of this mess.

  17. 49 arapaho415
    July 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm


    For those such as @CarolMaeWY, Linda @WhatIsWorking, and everyone else, bookmark this site with PDF and Excel downloads of Congressional activity. A true resource for US democracy!

  18. July 9, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    Oregon Legislature Unanimously Passes Tuition Free Higher Education

    [….] The bill passed the Oregon legislature unanimously on Monday, ironically the same day interest on federal subsidized Stafford Loans doubled from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent. The bill is expected to be signed into law by Governor John Kitzaber this month.[….]

    The biggest obstacle revolves around funding the initial program which will amount to 9 billion dollars. Since the first year of students won’t graduate for several years, the committee must find a way to help fund the program. However, since it appears everyone is on board with the plan, concessions are expected to be made in order
    to achieve the planned goal.[….]


  19. July 9, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    “Stand your ground” law helps white defendants a lot more than black ones
    As George Zimmerman’s trial begins, the stories of two very different shooters show the inequality behind the law
    By Katie Halper

    A man in Florida shoots a man he finds having sex with his wife, killing him. A woman in Florida shoots the wall to scare off an abusive husband, harming nobody. Guess which one was acquitted? Guess which one was convicted?

    On March 10 of this year, around midnight, Ralph Wald, 70, of Brandon, Fla., got out of bed to get a drink and found Walter Conley, 32, having sex with his wife, Johanna Lynn Flores, 41, in the living room. He immediately went back into his bedroom, grabbed his gun and shot Conley three times. Conley died. Wald claims that he thought Conley was a stranger who had broken in and was raping his wife – despite the fact that Conley lived next door, had been his wife’s roommate and lover, and had his wife’s name tattooed onto his neck and arm. During a 911 call, when the dispatcher asked Wald if the man he shot was dead, Wald responded, “I hope so!” Wald never used the word “rape” in later reports to police, opting instead for “fornicate.” And while the fact that the two were lovers doesn’t imply consent, Flores has never accused Conley of rape — nor do prosecutors buy that that’s what Wald actually thought was happening. They say that Wald, who suffers from erectile dysfunction, killed Conley in a jealous rage. Flores admits that she and Conley had sex regularly before and after her marriage to Wald. While testifying, Wald explained that his erectile dysfunction and his wife’s reluctance to have sex with him made them compatible: “In fact, she would joke a lot with me … that we were a perfect couple … She didn’t want to do it, and I couldn’t do it.” On May 30, after deliberating for two hours, a jury found Wald not guilty. After the verdict was announced, Wald continued to show no remorse: “If the same thing happened again, I would do the same thing.”

    On Aug. 1, 2010, Marissa Alexander, a 31-year-old mother of three, with a master’s degree and no criminal record, was working for a payroll software company in Jacksonville. She was estranged from her abusive husband, Rico Gray, and had a restraining order against him. Thinking he was not at home, she went to their former house to get some belongings. The two got into an argument. Alexander says that Gray threatened her and she feared for her life. Gray corroborates Alexander’s story: “I was in a rage. I called her a whore and bitch and … I told her … if I can’t have you, nobody going to have you,” he said, in a deposition. When Alexander retreated into the bathroom, Gray tried to break the door. She ran into the garage, but couldn’t leave because it was locked. She came back, he said, with a registered gun, which she legally owned, and yelled at him to leave. Gray recalls, “I told her … I ain’t going nowhere, and so I started walking toward her … I was cursing and all that … and she shot in the air.” Even Gray understands why Alexander fired the warning shot: “If my kids wouldn’t have been there, I probably would have put my hand on her. Probably hit her. I got five baby mommas and I put my hands on every last one of them, except for one … I honestly think she just didn’t want me to put my hands on her anymore so she did what she feel like she have to do to make sure she wouldn’t get hurt, you know. You know, she did what she had to do.” And Gray admits Alexander was acting in self-defense, intending to scare and stop but not harm him: “The gun was never actually pointed at me … The fact is, you know … she never been violent toward me. I was always the one starting it.” Ultimately nobody was hurt. Nobody died. On May 12, 2012, it took a jury 12 minutes to find Alexander guilty of aggravated assault. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

    Both defendants used the defense of “stand your ground,” a Florida law that holds that a person has “no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself.” The man who shot his wife’s lover to death was successful and walks free. The woman who shot at a wall to scare an abusive husband failed and sits in jail.

    The disparity between these outcomes should be shocking. But, sadly, it’s not, once you take into account the fact that Wald is white and Alexander is black. The “stand your ground” law is notorious for being applied in a biased and inconsistent way. The Tampa Bay Times found that defendants claiming “stand your ground” are more successful if the victim is black. Seventy-three percent of those who killed a black person faced no penalty. Only 59 percent of those who killed a white person got off. The Urban Institute determined that in “stand your ground” states, when white shooters kill black victims, 34 percent of the resulting homicides are deemed justifiable. When black shooters kill white victims only 3 percent of the deaths are ruled justifiable.


  20. July 9, 2013 at 12:32 pm

  21. 56 donna dem 4 obama
    July 9, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    Straight to the naughty map for our marabout 😆

  22. July 9, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Rand Paul is a Neo-Confederate

    by BooMan
    Tue Jul 9th, 2013 at 11:01:03 AM EST
    The people who swoon over Ron or Rand Paul because they agree with them on one subject or another really ought to come to terms with the true nature of the Paul family. They have always been neo-confederates or Lost Causers, and that is never going to change.

    A close aide to Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) who co-wrote the senator’s 2011 book spent years working as a pro-secessionist radio pundit and neo-Confederate activist, raising questions about whether Paul will be able to transcend the same fringe-figure associations that dogged his father’s political career. Paul hired Jack Hunter, 39, to help write his book The Tea Party Goes to Washington during his 2010 Senate run. Hunter joined Paul’s office as his social media director in August 2012.

    From 1999 to 2012, Hunter was a South Carolina radio shock jock known as the “Southern Avenger.” He has weighed in on issues such as racial pride and Hispanic immigration, and stated his support for the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln.

    During public appearances, Hunter often wore a mask on which was printed a Confederate flag.

    This isn’t some kind of aberration. The Paul movement has always been intertwined with white supremacists and it always will be. That is who they are.


    • 59 anniebella
      July 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      It doesn’t surprise me that Rand Paul is pals with racists, Alot of Republicans are.

    • 60 4morefor44
      July 9, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      i know republicans and “the news” have been trying to promote him for 2016, but randy doesn’t stand a chance, just like his dad. aside from his hypocritical insanity, people reject libertarianism whenever they hear more specifics beyond the incessant blurts “freedom!”

  23. 61 anniebella
    July 9, 2013 at 12:41 pm

    All I can say about the young girl who introduce FLOTUS is Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. 62 anniebella
    July 9, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    You guys see POTUS stop by. And what about FLOTUS introducing of POTUS.

  25. July 9, 2013 at 12:56 pm

  26. July 9, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Truth hurts

  27. 68 utaustinliberal
    July 9, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    I screamed in excitement when POTUS made a special appearance.

  28. 72 Ladyhawke
    July 9, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Press Secretary Jay Carney is at the podium ……..

  29. July 9, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Why excellent choice Mr.President!

  30. July 9, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Good news…..

  31. 80 Layla
    July 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    OT Sleepy animals…..soooo cute

  32. 81 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    Live stream of AZ Hotshot Firefighter Memorial


  33. 83 utaustinliberal
    July 9, 2013 at 1:42 pm

  34. 86 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    I loathe Republicans.

  35. 88 anniebella
    July 9, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Once again this Kid’s State Dinner was nice. And to end it with FLOTUS dancing with the kids and Sam Kass was dancing also. Really nice.

  36. 89 utaustinliberal
    July 9, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    FLOTUS using “Nom Nom” wins the day.

  37. 96 JER
    July 9, 2013 at 2:35 pm

  38. 97 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 2:38 pm

  39. 98 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 2:40 pm

  40. 99 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Politicolnews ‏@Politicolnews 6m
    No x-rays of Zimmerman proving a broken nose? He turned down a trip to hospital. #zimmermantrial
    Retweeted by Jeff Gauvin

    • 100 anniebella
      July 9, 2013 at 3:02 pm

      Who would have been beaten nearly to death as Zimmerman claim he was and yet refuse to go to the hospital. He is lying his racists ass off. He kill Trayvon Martin cause he was black.

  41. 102 Dudette
    July 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Hate Parade still in full effect

    • 103 donna dem 4 obama
      July 9, 2013 at 3:00 pm


      How on earth can they do this???

      Folks better wake the hell up. These Repubs are stone cold crazy and they need to be stopped at every level. Geesh!!!

    • 104 desertflower
      July 9, 2013 at 3:03 pm


      As we have pointed out on several occasions, the scariest phrase in American politics these days is, “Republican majority in the state legislature,” because you just don’t know what those zany scamps will do next. In Indiana, for example, they seem to be set on blue-pencilling the First Amendment.

      The new law also makes it a Class B Misdemeanor for a clergyman, judge, mayor, city clerk or town clerk-treasurer to perform a same-sex marriage, punishable by up to 180 days in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. Any clerk who issues a license to a same-sex couple would also be guilty of a Class B Misdemeanor.

      Wait a minute. The government — excuse me, THE GOVERNMENT! –can tell a member of the clergy the people for whom that member of the clergy can and cannot perform a wedding? Isn’t the pre-eminent, Breitbartian ghost story of the moment the notion that the repeal of DOMA will force churches to gay-marry anyone who comes in the door? Where in the hell did I leave my Gadsden flag, anyway?

    • July 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm

      and it is time for the clergy to stand against UNJUST LAWS….perhaps they would benefit re-reading Dr. King’s “Letter From a Birmingham Jail…

    • 106 Nena20409
      July 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm

      Separation of Church and State?

      Since when is legislation supposed to be passed for and against a/any religion? Have these people Read the Constitution? My goodness. These people day after day keep going further back to before this nation was formed. Freedom to worship, have that faith and exercise your faith as The denomination dictates.

    • 107 jackiegrumbacher
      July 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm

      Republicans are doing everything in their power to become the most loathsome political party in history. They have crossed every possible moral and ethical line and are, at this point, nothing less than a criminal party out to destroy every good and decent in the US.

  42. 108 Dudette
    July 9, 2013 at 2:56 pm

  43. 109 Dudette
    July 9, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    • July 9, 2013 at 3:07 pm

      OMG! This makes me so angry, I just want to weep because I can’t hit anybody. There’s some kind of awful psychotic epidemic afoot.

      Can I vent?

      I was just called “one of Mitt Romney’s 47 percenters”. Went to the grocer this morning and let my neighbor hitch a ride to fill her WIC. My daughter had asked for steak au poivre for dinner, so I had two beautiful filet mignons, 2 perfectly shaped baking potatoes, a bunch of asparagus and some Haagen Dazs Gelato. My neighbor had begun checking out when she realized she had forgotten something. I was arranging her items according to her WIC coupons when the woman behind me asked, “Is this your stuff?” I took one of the dividers and placed in on the conveyor belt. Then I heard her oversay to the people behind her, “Just look at this. This Black gal is buying all this hotsy totsy food but white people have to pay for her milk.” I ignored her as she and others continued to make nasty remarks. Just as she leaned forward and said directly to me, “You know you’re one of those 47% Romney was talking about”, my neighbor returned with her juice. Of course, the woman was so embarrassed, she turned red as a beet and left the line, but I can’t stop feeling angry.

      • 111 57andfemale
        July 9, 2013 at 3:10 pm

        I’m throwing things at the wall in my office right now. That is outrageous.

        • July 9, 2013 at 3:12 pm

          I’ve never had such an experience and of course I ignored her, but I wanted to smash her right in the middle of her face.

          • 113 57andfemale
            July 9, 2013 at 3:44 pm

            I’m appalled on so many levels. The mindset alone is appalling. But to think she thought she had a right to address you in that way – outrageous beyond belief.

      • July 9, 2013 at 3:16 pm

        Hate piled on hate piled on selfishness. That is all these people know. As I worked the computer this morning at our food pantry, I had to listen to two of the other volunteers (older women) go on and on about all the ‘scandals’ and how awful the situation is in Egypt and “I just think we’ve handled it all wrong……” blah blah blah. Then, few minutes later the same women got started on Medicare and getting prescriptions filled and on and on. You know–EVERY problem and ANYTHING that goes wrong, it is “this President’s fault.” I did a lot of biting my tongue!

        • July 9, 2013 at 3:21 pm

          This is so sad. The country needs an attitude adjustment. The anger and hate is palpable. Manners and human decency have gone out the window.

      • 116 dotster3
        July 9, 2013 at 3:35 pm

        Wow—where do you live? I can’t imagine anyone in my area speaking out like that. If anyone speaks at all in my grocery store lines, it is to be nice——-“awwww, your baby/grandbaby is so cute!” or “You go ahead of me”, “No, you go ahead of me.” No one cares who is buying what and how. Guess I should be grateful for small favors.

        • July 9, 2013 at 4:06 pm

          I’ve never had such an experience…anywhere. I’m in Kansas, but I can’t blame it on the place…there are nice people here as well. Was a time people would not have felt so free to express themselves in such a negative way…even if they thought it.

      • 118 LadyTNT
        July 9, 2013 at 3:44 pm

        Fay, I think you should have roasted her. It’s none of her business what you buy, even if you were on food stamps!

      • 120 Layla
        July 9, 2013 at 3:44 pm

        I am sooo sorry you had to go through this!!!! You know of course that people like that will never change their opinions, there is not enough grey matter in their tiny little brains to get educated on the subject of race. So I guess one must follow PBO and brush it off your shoulders and stand proud!!! stand very proud!!!!

      • 122 jackiegrumbacher
        July 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm

        FayPax, no one should have to endure this kind of insult. I don’t know where you live or what local news media you have, but you should write a letter to the editor about this encounter and ask local pastors to speak about it in churches. You shouldn’t have to bear this in silence.

    • 123 jackiegrumbacher
      July 9, 2013 at 4:30 pm

      Please know that Corbett is an evil man and the worst governor in PA’s history. He must, absolutely must, be defeated in 2014. Next year will be a battle between good and evil in this state as well as many others across the US. We must not assume that corrupt, incompetent asses such as Corbett will be easily defeated. There are huge money interests behind scum like this–especially the Koch Brothers, the fracking industry, and other corporate interests, including, in PA, the powerful Richard Melon Scaife in Pittsburgh. We must raise big money from small donors and we must fight like hell.

  44. 124 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    • July 9, 2013 at 3:27 pm

      This is so true. As I always say, It’s a little hard to believe people are so concerned about their personal business when they freely expose it all on Facebook.

      • 126 57andfemale
        July 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm

        The stupid stuff that people tell you about themselves on Facebook – God. The fact that Amazon knows what kind of handbag I like, and in what color, much less my taste in music or books. The list is endless.

        I read for a living. I appreciate that I get word on new books in my various fields that I might not otherwise have. I’m on the grid in order to get that information. I’ve given up certain privacy rights for that.

        Do I want my government using my obviously pro-liberal views against me? Of course not. That’s why we have to vote — all of us, in every election, for people we can trust. That’s what a representative democracy does.

        But we’re supposed to tie the hands of national security? We as individuals cannot guarantee a safe commons. We do that as a people and yes – that involves using the technology that everyone is using against us.

        They never answer the question: if we close off our eyes and ears and disregard the realities of modern communication, how does a government contribute to the safety of the commons?

        There is never an answer. Unless to say that it’s the ‘price we pay’ for privacy. That argument is no more acceptable than gun nuts saying dead children are a legitimate price to pay for the 2nd Amendment.

        • July 9, 2013 at 4:24 pm

          You said it all when you said, “we must elect people we can trust.”

          • 128 57andfemale
            July 9, 2013 at 4:31 pm

            We Dem’s and Dem-leaning indies voted in sufficient numbers, we wouldn’t be in this mess. We have ceded all of the decision-making of the country to a rabid minority.

            When L.A. had their local election a few months ago, 17% voted. 17%. For their mayor and all local officials. Yet these people will scream about city services when they couldn’t be bothered to do their civic duty and vote.

            Wasn’t it 26% in MA for Markey? Imagine if Repubs had been the least bit more dedicated. Gomez could have pulled it out just through the apathy of our side.

            Government is only as good as the people we elect to be our representatives. I will never forgive John McCain for unleashing Palin on us – I believe the tea party never would have gotten serious traction had not a ‘respected’ candidate like John McCain allow that hate-mongering loon to be thisclose to the Presidency.

            I don’t expect everyone to be as engaged as we are here at TOD. But a tiny bit of effort to be minimally informed and showing the hell up to vote – this madness ends.

  45. 129 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    VP Biden is speaking now…fabulous, passionate speech

  46. 130 Linda
    July 9, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    5 years ago today.

    • 131 Linda
      July 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm

      Kennedy returned to cast a single vote to help break a Republican filibuster of an important Medicare bill.

  47. 132 japa21
    July 9, 2013 at 3:39 pm

  48. 133 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 1m
    It takes a truly twisted person 2 publicly belittle his own teen son for volunteering 2 help needy sted of chasing $. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324853704578589902110093308.html
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  49. 134 japa21
    July 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm

  50. 135 57andfemale
    July 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm

  51. 136 Nena20409
    July 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    Jay “Clark Kent” Carney’s 07-09-13 press briefings
    58:28 Minutes


  52. 137 desertflower
    July 9, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Tell it!

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