Chat Away

A boy with “Rest In Peace Nelson Mandela” painted on his face looks up to the skies during the memorial service for former South African president Nelson Mandela at the FNB Stadium in Soweto, near Johannesburg, South Africa, Tuesday Dec. 10


Endless thanks to UT for all of today’s wonderful posts

149 Responses to “Chat Away”

  1. 1 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Wow. Breathtakingly poignant.

    You’re welcome, Chiparoo.

  2. December 10, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Thanks to Chips and UT for this excellent coverage. You’re better than any professional news organization by far.

  3. December 10, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Morning Obots!

    Lots to catch up on. But one thing which seems to be consuming twitter is FLOTUS giving the “side eye” to PBO and the Danish PM. In spite of the fact that there are literally dozens of pictures showing her laughing and smiling with the PM. Really, we deserve all the derision we get.

  4. 8 GGail
    December 10, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Good West Coast morning Chipsticks & TOD family.

    Chipsticks & UT, you guys have done a marvelous job – thank you !!!

    Happy Birthday MP!

    I’m playing catch up – and there is so much goodness here – thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

  5. December 10, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Thanks Ms. Chips & UT for the fantastic coverage of Nelson Mandela Memorial you brought to us. You guys are great!

  6. 13 Linda
    December 10, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Covered California has a backlog of 25,000 requests for coverage.

    Amazing how no one wants Obamacare…!!!!

  7. 14 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Very nice pic! Congrats UT on #1 ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. 16 vcprezofan2
    December 10, 2013 at 12:59 pm

    A face of the future – I can see pride and hope and promise in those beautiful eyes!

  9. 24 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm

  10. 25 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm

  11. 26 yardarm756
    December 10, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    The coverage here was AWESOME! I’m plum wore out and just got up. This site is giving me b”bags”. ๐Ÿ˜†

  12. 27 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:04 pm


  13. 34 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    I’m not up on South African politics: Is President Zuma really unpopular or were people booing him bcz they just wanted to see President Obama some more?

    • 35 hopefruit2
      December 10, 2013 at 1:14 pm

      Apparently he didn’t make today a national holiday, and folks were annoyed by that.

    • 37 dotster3
      December 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm

      According to news reports, and however much we can trust those, he is very unpopular—–lots of charges of corruption, spending oodles of money building more mansions for more wives on his property as situation deteriorates in S.A., huge gulf between haves and have nots, which we are also familiar with here, huge unemployment—-heard 2/3 of young unemployed (under 30), increasing poverty. Much has been lost since Mandela left office, people fear that it will get worse now that he’s gone.

  14. December 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    • 40 anniebella
      December 10, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      Where is it that FLOTUS is angry? I’ve seen some of the pictures, this was a funeral folks, not a party. Please! Leave the First Lady alone.

    • 42 anniebella
      December 10, 2013 at 1:12 pm

      Thank you Liberal Librarian.

    • 43 GGail
      December 10, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      Thank YOU!!!!! LL

      • 44 anniebella
        December 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm

        They rather talk about mess like that then talk about POTUS speech and what he said. POTUS has no need to be in any dog house, and after 21 years of marriage if FLOTUS doesn’t trust POTUS then we all have been fool haven’t we? And I don’t think we have been.

    • 45 Dudette
      December 10, 2013 at 1:27 pm

      I think this is what was feeding the flames.

      • 46 donna dem 4 obama
        December 10, 2013 at 1:32 pm

        Didn’t he switch seats after he spoke? This is much to do about nothing. I think she moved down so that he wouldn’t have to climb over her when he returned to his seat after giving his speech. Wow! This is just ridiculous IMO.

        • 47 EDP4BHO
          December 11, 2013 at 10:19 am

          Exactly, Donna, and FLOTUS gets very contemplative at occasions. But, reading someone’s facial expressions for sport is an everyday occurrence, and I’ve even seen it done here at TOD. As much as people like to assume they know what someone is thinking, we need to remember that looks are usually very deceiving. I’ve been a recipient of misinterpretations my entire life ๐Ÿ˜€

      • 48 Nena20409
        December 10, 2013 at 1:40 pm

        And where is PM Cameron?

        POTUS left to deliver his Memorial tribute for Mandela.

        Since these Photos are photoshop and manipulated. There must be a Video Tape. Like Lies through the Rightie/Media world, so are Indisputable Truth awaiting to be unearthed?

      • 49 jackiegrumbacher
        December 10, 2013 at 2:08 pm

        Geez, this is a memorial service for Pete’s sake. Michelle is looking serious, as she should be and she is probably exhausted as well. She might have been thinking of a million different things, not one of which involved her husband and the Danish PM.

      • 50 anniebella
        December 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm

        Look at the first picture of POTUS’s hand on the PM shoulder, that does not look like POTUS hand at all.

        • 51 anniebella
          December 10, 2013 at 3:26 pm

          The righties hate POTUS and FLOTUS too. They will do anything to attack the Obamas, do you think POTUS will go to a memorial service of a man that he respect and thought alot of and flirt with some Danish PM right in front of his wife, when he is speaking about being a better man before millions of people. This is just to try to make POTUS and FLOTUS look bad.

      • 52 Obama Grandmama
        December 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm

        I am sure this is a manufactured nonexistent problem. The photos had me thinking of how with four kids I strategically controlled where they sat in church and sometimes shuffled them or moved between them. I am sure my late husband was completely oblivious to my strategies. I had discovered as an elementary teacher that the seating chart can make all the difference! LOL

  15. 53 vcprezofan2
    December 10, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Israel Should Offer Palestinians Exactly What They Want
    By Jeffrey Goldberg


    If the Palestinian Authority is no partner for peace — in other words, if it is not actually seeking an equitable two-state solution, but is seeking instead Israelโ€™s destruction — then what harm could come from such an Israeli offer? The Palestinians would certainly reject it. They would never agree to stop making claims against Israel, which would be one condition of an internationally recognized peace deal. They would never agree to a state that included only the West Bank and Gaza, because such a state, as Yaโ€™alon is implying, is not their goal.

    Such an offer would actually benefit Israel in many ways. Most of the world already endorses the idea of a Palestinian state centered on the West Bank, and much of the world is angry at Israel, blaming it for blocking the birth of such a state. Israel could, in a single moment, shift the narrative entirely, placing the onus for the continued impasse on the Palestinians. And if Ya’alon is correct, there would be no danger that the Palestinians would accept the deal.

    The Netanyahu government will not do this because it is not particularly brave. Because doing this will cause the settlers and their sympathizers, who represent a core constituency of the ruling coalition, to erupt in fury. And because secretly the Netanyahu government understands that some Palestinians might, in fact, be ready for such a historic compromise.


  16. December 10, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    • 55 hopefruit2
      December 10, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      Definitely ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 56 donna dem 4 obama
        December 10, 2013 at 1:20 pm

        I was really surprised to see Goldie pushing that mess on twitter and facebook. I guess everyone is entitled to a bad decision. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

        • December 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm

          Not surprised at all Donna to be honest, not a Goldie fan, too much ‘look at me’.

        • December 10, 2013 at 1:26 pm

          So was April. I was very disappointed.

          • December 10, 2013 at 1:26 pm

            Just saw her RTing that crap LL, amazed.

          • 62 donna dem 4 obama
            December 10, 2013 at 1:28 pm

            I think they all thought this was going to be funny but they should all know by now that any little negative true or not is going to be spun against this President. At an event such as this you would think that they would have had other things to focus on… I guess not!

            • 63 hopefruit2
              December 10, 2013 at 1:56 pm

              Indeed. And they need to stop treating FLOTUS as their “Sistah-girl” comrade and give her the respect and gravitas she has earned and deserves as First Lady of the United States. I mean we can joke but when I read such nonsense about “Michelle going gangsta on someone” and all this nonsense – I just have to shake my head. There is a time and place for everything, and this was NOT one of those times.

              • 64 jackiegrumbacher
                December 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm

                Agree, HF, FLOTUS has worked hard since 2007 to support her husband and represent him in countless venues on the campaign trail. She has been a magnificent First Lady, leading initiatives that are transforming America. No two people could be closer or more obviously in love. This level of disrespect is not acceptable.

              • December 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm


                I’m really not down with all the jokes about this. It’s a solemn occasion and FLOTUS is paying her respects. Their tweets are petty schoolgirl stuff that the RWNJs will turn into an international incident. UGH.

        • 66 hopefruit2
          December 10, 2013 at 1:27 pm

          Sometimes I question Goldie’s judgment in certain contexts. For example, she was pushing the rumor that PBO came close to replacing VP Biden with Hillary – even going as far as suggestion that he and his team were lying when denied rumors from Halperin’s book. When we asked her to show us her evidence for making that claim, she refused and basically wanted us to just accept that “she knew.”

    • 67 Dudette
      December 10, 2013 at 1:29 pm

      Thanks you! That’s what I was thinking about that tryptch in the tweet from dude, where it looked like FLOTUS asked POTUS to switch seats. Can’t know what was happening without context. Might have been that POTUS switched so he could greet people on the other side of FLOTUS and just stayed there. People can be so juvenile some times.

    • 68 Obama Grandmama
      December 10, 2013 at 4:09 pm

      Remember the time in France in a group photo either on steps or risers there was this flap about how PBO and Sarkosy were checking out some woman’s backside? Then a more distant shot told another story entirely?

  17. 70 MightyPamela
    December 10, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    (not to be a party pooper, but how many times in one day does an upstairs neighbor need to vacuum the same 600sf apartment?! I mean, please, whoever you are, it’s clean enough! Really it is!) (ok, I might be complaining a little bit)

    • 71 donna dem 4 obama
      December 10, 2013 at 1:17 pm

      Tune them out and have yourself a….

      Happy Birthday Mighty Pamela!!

    • 73 Dudette
      December 10, 2013 at 1:17 pm

      ๐Ÿ˜€ Sorry you have to endure that on your birthday especially MP.

    • 75 hopefruit2
      December 10, 2013 at 1:20 pm

      Oh my…. Is this person a cleaning freak? And as someone who has lived in a “downstairs” apartment, you hear the noises from above even louder than the people above hear their own noises. So I feel your pain. Hope they get tired soon, or hope the vacuum breaks – whichever comes first.

    • December 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm

      Regret the noise, MP. But, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 81 vcprezofan2
      December 10, 2013 at 1:26 pm

      You know, maybe they have not yet internalized that a new neighbour is below. Want to go interrupt them with a plate of cookies, an introduction, and a gently hint that you HEARD them doing a very thorough clean-up job? Just kidding.

    • 84 jackiegrumbacher
      December 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm

      MP, I hope you’re having a great birthday, despite the neighbor. Maybe it’s time for some music in your house to drown out the vacuuming. Or, you could create a kind of “Rear Window” scenario in which you imagine scenes of crime and mayhem for which constant vacuuming would be required. In any case, don’t let her spoil your day. Enjoy every minute.

    • December 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm

      I hope you don’t have a clone of my upstairs neighbor. She vacuums right over my head like it’s the last thing she’s going to do. She’s also into moving her furniture for hours on end every month and talking until 3am. UGH.

      BUT, yes – Happy Birthday!! LOLz.

  18. 87 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:16 pm

  19. 88 yardarm756
    December 10, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    The first message in my in-box this morning.


    I grew up with practical parents. A mother, God love her, who washed aluminum foil after she cooked in it, then reused it. She was the original recycle queen before they had a name for it. A father who was happier getting old shoes fixed than buying new ones.

    Their marriage was good, their dreams focused. Their best friends lived barely a wave away.
    I can see them now, Dad in trousers, tee shirt and a hat and Mom in a house dress, lawn mower in one hand, and dish-towel in the other. It was the time for fixing things. A curtain rod, the kitchen radio, screen door, the oven door, the hem in a dress. Things we keep.

    It was a way of life, and sometimes it made me crazy. All that re-fixing, eating, renewing, I wanted just once to be wasteful. Waste meant affluence. Throwing things away meant you knew there’d always be more.
    But then my mother died, and on that clear summer’s night, in the warmth of the hospital room, I was struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn’t any more.

    Sometimes, what we care about most gets all used up and goes away…never to return.. So… While we have it….. it’s best we love it…. And care for it… And fix it when it’s broken……… And heal it when it’s sick.
    This is true. For marriage……. And old cars….. And children with bad report cards….. And dogs with bad hips…. And aging parents…… And grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it.

    Some things we keep. Like a best friend that moved away or a classmate we grew up with.
    There are just some things that make life important, like people we know who are special…….. And so, we keep them close!
    I received this from someone who thinks I am a ‘keeper’, so I’ve sent it to the people I think of in the same way… Now it’s your turn to send this to those people that are “keepers” in your life. Good friends are like stars…. You don’t always see them, but you know they are always there. Keep them close!

    God won’t have to ask how many people you forwarded this to, He already knows your decision.

  20. 94 JER
    December 10, 2013 at 1:26 pm

  21. 95 Dakota
    December 10, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Good Southwest Morning to my TOD Family!

    How uplifting and joyous today is! Tears keep filling my eyes at the most random times. What a moving tribute to Madiba by our beloved President. Nelson Mandela and Barack Obama…so loved by all!

    I have this STUPID meeting tonight so I won’t be able to watch the replays until later. Thank you Chips and all blog tyrants for providing this wonderful access.


  22. 96 japa21
    December 10, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Some people, specially the media, will do anything to takwe focus away from anything PBO says. The eulogy he gave was wonderful, touching, poignant and sent a special message to some obstructionists here at home. But most of the discussion is about FLOTUS.

    Not surprising, however. When he gave that wonderful, powerful speech on income inequality all the discussion was about the little girl who trip backing away from Sunny.

    In fact, if you look back at most of his major addresses, most of the discussion ended up revolving around something that had nothing to do with the speech itself.

    People just can’t stand the idea of a black man being able to speak that well as it is, but for him also to be President is too much. And they talk about how PBO tries to find distractions so people are looking at ACA troubles or whatever. No, the real distracting is done by people who don’t want the American public paying attention to what PBO is saying.

  23. 103 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:31 pm

  24. 104 Dudette
    December 10, 2013 at 1:32 pm

  25. 105 JER
    December 10, 2013 at 1:32 pm

  26. December 10, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Lady Ashton making it happen in Kiev!!

  27. 111 JER
    December 10, 2013 at 1:37 pm

  28. 112 JER
    December 10, 2013 at 1:39 pm

  29. 114 donna dem 4 obama
    December 10, 2013 at 1:42 pm

  30. December 10, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    • 116 jackiegrumbacher
      December 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm

      Wonderful statement by Brzezinski, Bob. The Ukrainians aren’t going to allow themselves to be pulled back into the past and that’s exactly the direction Putin represents.

  31. 117 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    *Cough Cough* I see you Politico, WSJ, etc.

  32. December 10, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    A fact they will never be able to accept ….


    …. but, their acceptance is about as relevant as whether I make another cup of tea in 5 min or in 8 min ….

  33. 122 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    Bahahahahahahahahahahha. No can do Mom and Pop.

  34. 124 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm

  35. 127 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 2:08 pm

  36. 128 donna dem 4 obama
    December 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    TOD, this is what we have masquerading as journalist. SMH!!!!!!!

  37. 131 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    This is a BFD!

  38. 134 Allison
    December 10, 2013 at 2:17 pm

  39. 136 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Another BFD!

  40. 137 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm

  41. 140 donna dem 4 obama
    December 10, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    This is the last that I will post on this but Liberal Phenom makes the point here:

  42. 141 Frenchie08
    December 10, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Why is the chair next to the President in the last picture of that tweet suddenly orange? Why is the face of the person in that chair unrecognizable? Are my eyes deceiving me, or does this picture look photo shopped? Something is not right about the seat spaces or angles in the pictures either. Remember when there was a picture of the President that was SUPPOSED to look like he was looking at some girls behind? That turned out to be FALSE as well. Something is not right about these pictures. IMHO.

    • 142 Nena20409
      December 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm

      Go back to the R&S and there are at least two huge pics and the lady sitting next to POTUS in those pics was sitting on an orange seat.

      Pictures farmed are moments. Those freeze-farming these pictures have twisted minds and loads of time on their hands. The photo posted down the last thread with GW Bush talking to a younger female as Laura looked dissatisfied is in the same category. The Media hypes the one with the 1st family and ignores the one with GW Bush and Laura. Freaking happens time and time again. It is part of their severe case of ODS.

      • 143 Frenchie08
        December 10, 2013 at 2:48 pm

        Thanks Nena20409. I did check it out and you are right. I do get so tired of it! I will just resume appreciating the beauty of the President’s speech and not allow myself to be dragged in to their psychosis. It is hard sometimes, but I will continue to lurk here in this warm inspiring place!

  43. 144 isonprize
    December 10, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    My TOD peeps. I need a favor. PLEASE vote for these folks –
    They are fierce advocates for public schools and specifically children with special needs in Philadelphia.

    PARENTS UNITED FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION as “Non-profit of the Year” & EILEEN DUFFEY, RN, as “Do-Gooder of the Year.”


  44. 145 Vicki
    December 10, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    President’s nominees for judicial and administrative posts also proceeding nicely at long last.
    GOPMSM Got Nothing.

  45. 146 jackiegrumbacher
    December 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    Don, isonprize. Looks like they’re inching to the lead.

    • 148 No Child Left Behind
      December 10, 2013 at 2:58 pm

      My world! Mini-Dick-Cheney is sure to be found on the wrong side of history. Hope she maintain that consistency next year and lose resoundingly. Between her and the other waco, I will keep McTurtle.

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