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Early Bird Chat


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  1. 3 jackiegrumbacher
    July 17, 2016 at 8:18 am

    Hi Don, happy to see you’re the first bird up and thanks Nerdy for helping to make TOD home.

  2. July 17, 2016 at 8:26 am

    Good Morning 😊, Everyone 😆

  3. 7 MightyPamela
    July 17, 2016 at 8:33 am

    💞❤☮🕉☮❤💞

  4. 8 forus50
    July 17, 2016 at 8:36 am

    • 9 arapaho415
      July 17, 2016 at 9:55 am

      GM ForUS50, good to see you (way behind at TOD, likely I’ve missed any comments you may have made).

      Great, great video, thanks for posting! Will experiment to see if I can cull some zinger PBO soundbites — if I can do successfully, will let you know.

      It drives me ABSOLUTELY BONKERS that the MSM have no collective memory of what has happened during the last 10-15 years, and provide ZERO pushback on outright lies — not misremembering or fudging or a slip of the tongue, but actual making stuff up and MSM says nothing.

      examples re: Pence (posted early this morning on overnight thread):

      Any MSM pushback on DT yesterday?

      • 10 forus50
        July 17, 2016 at 10:18 am

        Gm Arapaho! Yes, if there’s one thing consistent about the MSM it’s that they are consistently awful. 😳

        I haven’t been on TOD for a few months. Busy at work, studying French, and getting ready to move to Paris on January 21. 🎉🍾.

        But I do miss Chipsticks’s cheery greetings here!

  5. 14 forus50
    July 17, 2016 at 8:38 am

    Good morning Nerdy,
    Thanks for keeping TOD up and running. Any news from Chipsticks? Is she planning on returning to TOD?

  6. July 17, 2016 at 9:00 am

  7. July 17, 2016 at 9:06 am

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and TOD family, I hope all is well with everyone this lovely Sunday morning. Congrats Don, on being first this morning.

    Nerdy, thanks so much for helping Ms. Chips and the sacrifices you are making for us TOD”ders. 💫🙏👌👊❤

    To all, I hope your God bestows His grace, loving-kindness, and mercy upon you today. ❤ ❤ ❤

    Thank God that President Obama is still the President of The United States of America. ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆

  8. 17 FoxfireTX
    July 17, 2016 at 9:07 am

    Good morning Chips, Nerdy and TOD! Wow, is it striking anyone else just how strange this year has become? Since WHEN do we need ARMY helicopters at a political convention?????? Nice job GOP. You certainly are on your way to making America great again. Utterly disgusted.

  9. 18 MightyPamela
    July 17, 2016 at 9:10 am

    Full Moon approaching: The opposittion takes place at 27.40 Capricorn. Tuesday 19th July 2016. 6:56pm ET. 3::56pm PT.

  10. 20 FoxfireTX
    July 17, 2016 at 9:21 am

    Now after that little rant….has anyone else been watching CNN this last week? Don Lemon rightly had a horrible, well deserved reputation during the Ferguson protests but he has done a remarkable job in bringing on guests and pushing them hard this last week. I only started watching because I am so disgusted with MSNBC and their Trump love affair but am so glad I did. He hosted a 2 hour town hall this week, Black, White and Blue which I didn’t get around to watching until late last night but it was remarkable. It took one hour and 45 minutes but FINALLY he got to a place where he got 2 people to make some incredible admissions.

    FIRST, a cop and cop trainer said if every police office would do and say something every time they saw fellow officers engaging in biased behavior the policing problem would be solved in this country overnight. We all have known this, but before this I have never heard any one associated with law enforcement admit it.

    SECOND, a retired major, supervisor, or something with one of the major state police forces said: Despite PBO’s 21st century task force, and its good recommendations, it is NOT going to work because you get to the point that you have to admit the POLICING SYSTEM in this country is so broken you simply need to START OVER and start from scratch in building a new model. He referred to a Peelian model of policing that is needed where the cops’ policies and behavior are accountablr to community policing boards which consist of members of the community. He did not get much time to explain this but said it is model used in Europe where we are sending officers to determine why European countries kill so many fewer of their citizens than the cops in the US.

    In any event, it truly was remarkable to see these admissions out there, and kudos to Don Lemon for getting this done. Now the question is how does this proceed. I only hope that someone in PBO’s inner circle saw this town hall and the admissions that came out it. It was the FIRST time this week I have felt hopeful that the tragic events may actually lead to major changes.

    • July 17, 2016 at 9:45 am

      Very useful information. Kudos to Don Lemon.

    • 22 Don
      July 17, 2016 at 9:58 am

      I don’t know if we can ever fix the policing problems in minority communities until we fix the problem of racism that permeates every institution that we have in the country from Education to Housing to Banking to Law Enforcement.

      • 23 FoxfireTX
        July 17, 2016 at 10:15 am

        Don, I agree we can’t fix the overall problem until others are dealt with, but perhaps we can at least stop the number of young black men being killed. The one other thing that was notably lacking was the issue of guns, and how that has changed policing. The cops are AFRAID at every traffic stop because we are awash in guns. This was not the case when I was young. While you had young black men being beaten, abused and harassed, they were not being killed at the same rate. The police are far more willing to shoot because they believe every single person has a gun. The cop in Castillo murder obviously was scared which is the reason he had his gun out. I read an article on this the other day, a psychologist who works with and trains cops discussed the high degree of fear. And I do not believe this result is racism in and of itself (other than believing that all black men have guns on them, which the evidence does not substantiate) but there is no doubt the number of guns floating around has changed policing.

        All that said, these admissions/statements were huge progress to my mind. We have to start somewhere and these were concrete suggestions. Just what if, EVERY single cop knew they would be disciplined if they witnessed biased behavior by fellow officers and did nothing to stop it or report it? What a change that would make.

        • 24 amk for obama
          July 17, 2016 at 10:24 am

          ” And I do not believe this result is racism in and of itself ”

          Disagree. How many cops who kill are POC?

          • 25 FoxfireTX
            July 17, 2016 at 10:36 am

            The cop who killed Castillo is Hispanic. The “blue” is much stronger than skin color apparently. I’ve read a number of studies where POC police are as likely to engage in and/or turn a blind eye to biased policing as any white officer. That Blue Wall. At the same time, it is these same officers who have the best shot to change the culture, when they remember their own experiences. Not surprisingly, the harshest remarks by police officers against police departments in this town hall were all black or bi.

        • 26 Don
          July 17, 2016 at 10:32 am

          “This was not the case when I was young. While you had young black men being beaten, abused and harassed, they were not being killed at the same rate.”

          Well I guess that’s better than being killed.

          I think the gun issue is a separate issue from the killing of young black men. If that psychologist said that police officers have a high degree of fear for black men well then maybe they shouldn’t be cops, maybe they should find a profession that aligns more with their strengths. I thought you had to take a psychological test to become a police office? What that psychologist describes is an irrational fear of black men, I don’t see why they would have this fear; the black man certainly didn’t bring himself over here in chains, the black man didn’t enslave himself. What I’m trying to say is that police have such a negative perception of black men that I don’t know what has to happen before the killing stops.

          • 27 FoxfireTX
            July 17, 2016 at 10:39 am

            I agree Don, and this was VERY explicitly addressed in this town hall. I tried locating it on CNN.com and can only find clips but it truly was remarkable. EVERY single point you have made was brought up and addressed. Not always answers, i.e., housing, jobs, mental health treatment, etc but they were discussed including this irrational fear of black men. I think it came up in no less than 3 questions. I wish every person in America could watch it. It was stunning, and I rarely say that about anything!

            • 28 Don
              July 17, 2016 at 10:49 am

              I’m certainly going to look for it, I wish more police organizations would have the courage to look inward.

          • 29 FoxfireTX
            July 17, 2016 at 10:54 am

            The moment that finally brought me to tears was a black mother who was nearly hysterical about how she was going to keep her 14 year old son alive. A black officer in the audience who had spoken previously stood up and apologized to her, said that the police in this country had failed because they took an oath to protect her and her son, and they obviously had failed. He held her while she sobbed. It was incredible.

            • 30 cd4biden
              July 17, 2016 at 11:57 am

              FoxfireTX, thank you for this conversation with Don. Very illuminating. I’m wondering if you could go to Whitehouse.gov and post a comment with some of your conversation here with Don? I bet someone on staff there could get the entire program for people there to watch.

          • July 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm

            i believe that the issue remains accountability…many police contracts hinder or prevent accountability…this is something concrete that citizens can do to address police killings…in addition there have been court rulings and laws that hinder the DOJ from winning civil rights cases in court…

            it took Thurgood Marshal and the NAACP Defense Fund many years to dismantle Jim Crow and Segregation in the courts…we need the same thing done today….

            Struggle on the ground as well as struggle in the courts…

            YES WE MUST

    • 33 amk for obama
      July 17, 2016 at 10:21 am

      I would start with the immediate suspension of pay & duty for the cop who kills pending enquiry. Loss of monthly check might make them think twice before killing. They can justify all they want before an independent panel comprising of judges and people from society. Until they are acquitted, no pay, no job.

      • 34 Don
        July 17, 2016 at 10:42 am

        The first thing that happens is that they are suspended with pay and placed on administrative duty, that is all a part of due process which police unions have bargained for. If it were up to me I would have the justice department handle all police shootings, but I don’t know if the Justice Department has the infrastructure for what would undoubtedly be a herculean task.

    • 35 arapaho415
      July 17, 2016 at 11:09 am

      GM FoxfireTX.

      You’re in good company praising Don Lemon.

      From Wednesday:

      From Monday, re: Dallas police shooting:

      more…

      • 36 arapaho415
        July 17, 2016 at 11:27 am

        re: Don Lemon…

        I cringed when I saw Lemon speculated about a black hole swallowing missing MH370, but thank goodness he is capable of learning from mistakes (unlike most despicable MSM who allow Trump and other GOP fabricate without consequence). No wonder RWNJs believe their e-mail chain mail conspiracy theories.

        re: police accountability to community

        Just hear on @CBSradionews that there’s an “afromation “demonstration now in Baltimore for exactly this.

        Los Angeles was under a DOJ consent decree for decades after the 1992 Rodney King verdict and LAPD is accountable to a Police Commission, but they are comprised of people who are *least* interested in actual residents of the city — they’re movers and shakers in our screwed up real estate system — don’t think he’s still the head of the police commission now, but recently the commercial real estate developer of “The Grove” shopping center, Rick Caruso, was the commission chair.

        We don’t need real estate tycoons making decisions (or rather as is usual, non-decisions) for the actions and training of beat cops.

        PBO is right — we need a comprehensive, coordinated effort to combat the root causes of what’s happening.

        1) Too many guns
        Cops are scared to death because so many people are armed… just heard on the radio too that a man in Florida opened fire on a car with kids playing Pokémon Go in a parked car — JHC, such a good reason for shooting at people (snark).

        2) Too many state dollars being siphoned from college infrastructure to support too many people in state and private prisons.

        3) Not nearly enough attention by those not in need to implement solutions that will help underserved communities get just a step or two up on the economic ladder.

        End of rant.

    • July 17, 2016 at 12:18 pm

      Thanks for the info Foxfire! That’s very interesting information. Great solutions!

  11. July 17, 2016 at 9:32 am

    Good morning TOD folks! Not looking forward to 4 days of GOP ‘trumpeting’. Thank goodness for TOD

  12. 39 arapaho415
    July 17, 2016 at 10:19 am

    GM TODville.

    This is for 99ts, if she’s still here (it’s after midnight tomorrow in Sydney now).

    Can’t find the tweet Meta RT’d, but @VP is in Australia now, hopefully snugly abed.

    http://publicpool.gawker.com/subject-vp-pool-report-1-1783796412

    From the pool report:
    “Mr Biden began his visit to Australia on Sunday with a tour of the laboratories in the Victorian Comprehensive Cancer Centre, flanked by Australian health minister Sussan Ley and Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews.”

    and…
    “US Vice President Joe Biden has praised the ‘profound’ efforts of Victoria’s new billion-dollar cancer centre and declared the world on the cusp of major breakthroughs in treatment.”

    PBO and @VP actually working every.single.day and all MSM has eyes for is #TrainWreckTrump. SMH.

  13. July 17, 2016 at 10:36 am

    Good Sunday morning, everyone.

    Elizabeth is going in on Trump right now and it’s a SIZZLER:

    https://twitter.com/elizabethforma

  14. 45 hopefruit2
    July 17, 2016 at 10:48 am

    G’morning Nerdy & TOD! Happy Sunday everyone, and congrats Sir Don on #1! 🙂

  15. July 17, 2016 at 10:50 am

    OMG, NO

  16. July 17, 2016 at 11:00 am

  17. 52 hopefruit2
    July 17, 2016 at 11:13 am

    Going up…going up…

  18. July 17, 2016 at 11:24 am

    Op-Ed The Democrats’ demographic firewall is under attack

    …………………………………………………

    Comforting as that may seem, America’s demographic firewall has been under attack. And as we approach November, we find it severely weakened.
    ………………………………………………………….

    Of course Republicans insist that disenfranchisement is not their intent. They claim, instead, that these laws are necessary to stop rampant voter fraud. But that assertion does not align with the facts. A GOP-sponsored database, Crosscheck, which is designed to cull through voter registration files from 28 states, analyzed 84 million records and found only 14 instances of possible voter impersonation. In Wisconsin, “proven fraud actually amounted to 0.0007 percent of all votes.” In fact, law professor Justin Levitt uncovered that from 2000 to 2014, there were only 31 instances of possible voter fraud out of 1 billion votes cast nationwide. Impersonating a voter to steal an election is not the issue. Disenfranchisement is.

    Over the last few years Republican legislatures have moved to require specific types of voter ID that disproportionately affect minorities and the poor. In Texas, concealed weapons permits are acceptable, student IDs are not. Alabama rejects IDs issued by the public housing authority. As the NAACP has noted, nationwide, 25% of African Americans and 16% of Latinos, compared with 8% of whites, do not have the correct form of ID now demanded by Republican-dictated laws.

    GOP lawmakers have also severely limited the ability to obtain an acceptable ID. Alabama shut down motor vehicle department offices in counties that had sizable African American populations. Only after a thunderous outcry did the Republican governor relent and agree to open the license bureaus — for one day a month. All this in a state where, by its own estimates, 250,000 to 500,000 registered voters lack a driver’s license or other acceptable ID under the law.

    In Texas, 15% of voting-age Latinos without government-issued photo IDs live in counties where there are no driver’s license offices. In fact, as the U.S. Department of Justice noted, “Texas has DMV offices in only eighty-one of 254 counties in the state, with some voters needing to travel up to 250 miles to obtain a new voter ID.” Texas’ suite of laws, according to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, “impacts more than 600,000 registered voters and 1 million eligible voters.”

  19. 56 amk for obama
    July 17, 2016 at 11:24 am

    teann intl is having a permanent ‘countdown clock’ to the rethugs national convention while the serious issue of police being shot is being reported. pathetic.

  20. July 17, 2016 at 11:25 am

  21. July 17, 2016 at 11:27 am

  22. July 17, 2016 at 11:37 am

    My concern is the republicans and trump recently started all this turmoil in this country relating to race.
    And if something happens at the republican convention(violence) the republicans and trump will be seen as victims.

    Ain’t that some shit? 🤔

  23. 60 GGAIL
    July 17, 2016 at 11:38 am

    My local kcal9 news station has been reporting on the shooting of police officers in Baton Rouge for the last 15 minutes. Imagine if they covered the shooting and investigation of the black man as thorough. Peace and calm would be the order of today. What has been reported on the investigation into Anton’s death?

  24. 61 amk for obama
    July 17, 2016 at 11:40 am

    It’s time 1st and 2nd themselves are amended.

  25. 62 desertflower
    July 17, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Morning everyone:) Remember….

  26. July 17, 2016 at 11:45 am

    • 64 desertflower
      July 17, 2016 at 11:54 am

      From the piece. Wake up and stay that way!

      “It is the irony of all ironies,” Brancatelli says. “One of the biggest issues in Cleveland is how the property values in many neighborhoods haven’t recovered from the subprime foreclosure problems, and how many of these problems came from outside investors who didn’t even pretend to fix up houses or put lipstick on the pig. They used shell corporations and fake names so we couldn’t find them for housing code violations. And one of the guys who encouraged this way of doing business, and who profited from it, is being nominated for president just a few miles away.”

  27. July 17, 2016 at 11:47 am

  28. July 17, 2016 at 11:50 am

    BREAKING NEWS: POLICE NOW SAY THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A SECOND GUNMAN AFTER 3 OFFICERS SHOT DEAD AND 4 OTHERS INJURED.

    2nd???

    A second gunman?

    This doesn’t sound good folks!

  29. 67 desertflower
    July 17, 2016 at 11:56 am

    Feel safe yet, America? Swimming in guns..Not safe.

  30. 68 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    WATCH LIVE: Officials confirm 2 law enforcement officers dead, 5 injured during shooting –
    http://www.wafb.com/story/32463160/watch-live-baton-rouge-police-respond-to-report-of-officers-down?sf31132042=1

  31. 69 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:09 pm

  32. 70 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:10 pm

  33. 71 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    • 72 Don
      July 17, 2016 at 12:26 pm

      I think they’re saying 4 officers are dead and 7 wounded, three gunmen with one being contained. Whatever contained means I don’t know.

      • July 17, 2016 at 12:40 pm

        And yet, there are those who will still contend that OPEN CARRY is NOT a problem.

        Uh huh.
        Uh huh.

        • 74 jacquelineoboomer
          July 17, 2016 at 12:50 pm

          Yes, open carry isn’t a problem … maybe until more and more police officers are openly killed by somebody carrying. That wasn’t “expected,” apparently, by those RWNJs pushing for those awful laws, although it’s beginning to look like a natural progression – because officers who kill for no reason are not being prosecuted.

          Definitely not a proponent of loss of life in any case, obviously, but perhaps some eyes are being opened. It would take about a week to abolish all open-carry laws in those states that have them. Then people can trade in the guns for cash or new electronics, as a lot of local police departments have been doing – no questions asked – on a small scale for decades. (Then I guess unicorns will fly through the streets, but I can’t stop hoping.)

  34. 75 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:19 pm

  35. 76 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Report: 3 law enforcement officers dead, 3 others injured. 1 suspect is dead, 2 others may be at large. WAFB

  36. July 17, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    Cleveland republican carrying a gun outside convention… Can you tell me what kind of gun this is?
    It looks like automatic weapon… Can’t see it all… Maybe fires 7.62 mm it’s big!!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/pzf/status/754711164282671104

    • 78 Don
      July 17, 2016 at 12:32 pm

      Of course, this is madness, why do people feel the need to strap fucking rifles to their asses. I just don’t get it, yes, the 2nd amendment says that you have a right to bear arms, and then you’ve got the well regulated militia argument. I just don’t get the gun fetish.

      • 79 cd4biden
        July 17, 2016 at 12:47 pm

        Well this is just my off handed, snarky comment, but I think it’s because they aren’t getting any sex, or are feeling emasculated in some, or several, ways. So they walk around with a big gun, no make that a BIG GUN. And it takes the place of their having “tiny hands” or the feeling that they have “tiny hands,” if you get my drift. With a big gun at least they have one thing in their possession that is big and powerful and that makes people notice them when they walk down the street. They know they are no longer invisible. Doesn’t matter if you are looking at them with contempt, fear, or pride. They are no longer invisible and worthless.

        I think about some of the reports of things that happened during the recent Dallas shooting. Apparently there were a lot of people walking around with guns that day, but when the bullets started flying, those dudes ran for the hills along with everyone else. The guns may make them believe they are powerful, but their actions tell the truth about how they really feel about themselves.

        • 80 Don
          July 17, 2016 at 1:18 pm

          Well….um….your assessment might be right, a lack of….um…..a lack of…..a lack of physical interaction or a lack of……I just think we need to do something about the ease at which people can obtain guns.

  37. 82 Don
    July 17, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    I hope and pray that this isn’t the new normal, but it seems that a lot of things that shouldn’t be normal are very much normal.

    • 83 No Child Left Behind
      July 17, 2016 at 12:54 pm

      Hence, the current crop of GOP. It’s the new normal GOP… since the half-Governor of Alaska mounted the stage.

  38. July 17, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    A retired Baltimore homicide detective who sued the Eastern Shore town where he was fired as police chief is joining the Baltimore state’s attorney’s office as an investigator.

    Kelvin Sewell, 53, will work as a contract employee investigating felony, homicide and violent crime cases, according to documents submitted to the city spending board. He also will help locate and interview witnesses and act as a liaison with police agencies. His salary is listed at $63,925.

    The city’s spending panel voted Wednesday to authorize the spending.

    Sewell spent more than 20 years with the Baltimore Police Department, retiring as a sergeant in the homicide unit in 2010. He joined the Pocomoke City Police Department on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, and the next year was elevated to chief — becoming the town’s first black top cop.

    Last summer, Sewell was fired by the City Council. He has alleged that his dismissal was retaliation for not firing two officers after they had filed complaints with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

  39. July 17, 2016 at 12:34 pm

  40. 88 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:35 pm

  41. July 17, 2016 at 12:43 pm

  42. 90 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    WAFB ‏@WAFB 3m3 minutes ago
    #BREAKING: Officers are in an armed standoff with one of the suspects. Location not given.

  43. 91 vcprezofan2
    July 17, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    Howdi-dooo folks; sending wishes for a Sunday that’s happy and productive as well as healthily restful. 🙂

  44. 92 No Child Left Behind
    July 17, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    POTUS’s take down of Mike All White Pence is a gift for a Sunday brunch. Thank you.

  45. 93 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    Holy freaking smokes, Not again.
    This is just heartbreaking & dangerous. Too many Guns in the Street. Hateful rhetoric & political cowardice. The stoking of distrust, the flaming of anger, the racist bigots cheering for internal “war”……all these contributing to our current situation.
    It’s not a Happy Sunday.
    Hello TOD.
    Thank you, NW for your relentless service for The TOD Community.
    {{{{ ❤ Chips ❤ Family ❤ }}}}
    Congrats to all the Au ⭐ winners since Friday Evening, starting with this Early Bird Post.

  46. 94 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 1:08 pm

  47. 95 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 1:15 pm

  48. 96 No Child Left Behind
    July 17, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    I am having difficulty keeping up with an accurate count of the shootings in the USA. Just too many people armed to their teeth and plenty of them with mental or racial issues.

  49. 97 JER
    July 17, 2016 at 1:27 pm

  50. July 17, 2016 at 1:28 pm

  51. 99 Nerdy Wonka
    July 17, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    • 100 cd4biden
      July 17, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      Sock it to them Nerdy Wonka! Thank you for your hard hitting Tweets, and for the others you posted here. These are all so true. I just wonder what we can do to turn these words into actions that actually accomplish something toward the goal of limiting the availability of guns in the US.

  52. 101 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 1:43 pm

  53. 102 Nerdy Wonka
    July 17, 2016 at 2:05 pm

  54. 106 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 2:14 pm

  55. 109 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Note: There was Zero Protesting going on.

  56. July 17, 2016 at 2:45 pm

  57. 112 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 2:48 pm

  58. 113 Nena20409
    July 17, 2016 at 3:14 pm


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