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  1. 1 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 9:28 am

    Bo and Sunny!! 🙂 Happy Spring! TY, NERDY:)

    Indivisible Guide as specifics on what will happen to THAT DISTRICT if ACA repealed. Guess what’s going on the baby dolls? 🙂

    https://democrats-energycommerce.house.gov/sites/democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/files/documents/ACA%20District-by-District%20Report%2003022017.pdf

  2. 6 GGAIL
    March 21, 2017 at 9:36 am

    Good West Coast morning NW & TOD family.
    We have spring showers this morning ☔️

  3. 7 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 9:38 am

  4. 9 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 9:43 am

    You don’t get to choose a judge for a lifetime appointment if you are illegitimate. Period. End of conversation.

  5. 10 57andfemale
    March 21, 2017 at 9:46 am

  6. 12 Jey
    March 21, 2017 at 9:47 am

    Morning all.

    http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1645107.

    Sharing a link from Huff post. Hopefully I have done this right. Not savvy when it comes to Internet stuff. 🙂

    Story is on PP’S kids and their families going to Aspen for holiday … with (supposedly)50-100 SS agents to protect the whole gang.

    You know I wonder just how stupid the ppl who voted for PP are. They are willing to give up their health care / meals on wheels for Putin’s Yellow Puppet and his family to plunder the country.

    • 13 arapaho415
      March 21, 2017 at 12:57 pm

      GM/GA Jey.

      Your link worked.

      Local law enforcement were not notified.

      “Meanwhile, Pitkin County Sheriff Joe DiSalvo told the Aspen Daily News the county was not working with the Secret Service:
      He didn’t know much about their itinerary, as the U.S. Secret Service has not contacted him about the visit, DiSalvo said.

      Regardless, he said he would not offer his department’s aid for their visit.

      ‘We’re doing absolutely nothing,’ DiSalvo said of assisting the Secret Service. ‘Our responsibility is to the president and the first lady, not friends or family members.'”

      Hoping that karma takes this entire family down, they are the most non-human ,non-feathered, creatures walking on two legs.

       

  7. 14 57andfemale
    March 21, 2017 at 9:57 am

    Got the bill for my 3 days in the hospital for a kidney stone: $36,363.00 before the doctors and the surgeon. How broken is American health care? Should it cost [probably] $50,000 for a kidney stone?!?! Medicare and my supplemental will cover it all. And isn’t that the point – without insurance, you die. Or lose your home.

    This b.s. about just going to the ER. First of all, you don’t go to the ER for insulin or blood pressure meds. And if you do go to ER, YOU GET A BILL. If you own a home, you lose that home to pay the bill. ER IS NOT FREE.

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:23 am

      How in the hell can an average family (who probably lives from paycheck to paycheck) supposed to have a healthcare savings account to cover things like this? One minor emergency could wipe out a lifetime of savings…Thank goodness you were covered. We have to #SaveACA!!!

      • 16 57andfemale
        March 21, 2017 at 11:26 am

        Exactly, Dianne. I was without insurance (self-employed with asthma and high blood pressure before ACA, which I was able to get and afford at the age of 63. If I had had this kidney stone before that, I’d be dead. Literally. For what is actually a simple procedure (although I was pretty miserable for a month, including my Trump wannabe boss who docked me 7 days’ pay. I’m a private contractor, so I have nothing to fight him with. Been doing this job for him for almost 9 years – no vacation, no sick days – the sociopathic bastard.

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:46 am

      Cost of healthcare is out of control; however, truth is, the only one’s burdened with “rack” rate for care are those that can least afford it — the working uninsured.

      Twice monthly, I receive treatments that are billed at $23,000.00 each; Medicare/Tricare, combined, pay a negotiated rate of $2,200.00 — less than 10% of what’s billed. As I have Tricare for Life, I pay nothing out of pocket. A person without insurance would be hard pressed to pay $46,000.00 a month out of pocket.

      To this day, I am haunted by an article I read shortly before ObamaCare went into effect. Woman from West Virginia had severe asthma; no insurance; couldn’t afford inhalers; relied on emergency rooms. Hubby got job that provided insurance after 90 days probation; they were counting down the days until she could see a doctor and get on a regular treatment regime. Around day 87, she had a severe asthma attack; by time the neighbor got her to the hospital (30 minutes away) she was dead. DEAD for lack of an inhaler. I have an inhaler in every room of my house, in my three primary handbags, in the pocket of every coat; I have an epi-pen on each floor of the house, and in my three primary handbags. This woman’s death HAUNTS ME! This should not happen in the USA!

      • 18 57andfemale
        March 21, 2017 at 11:23 am

        The truth is, without insurance, you die. If this kidney stone had happened 5 years ago, I would have had to leave the hospital, and probably gone septic for lack of treatment. NO ONE can pay for health care in this country, unless you’re uber-wealthy. It’s impossible.

        And let’s talk about the terror you live with if you have no health care options, or insurance is denied to you, at any cost. The stress alone is unfathomable; yet millions of Americans live like that, and there will be millions more if these psychopathic Republicans get their way.

        You want us to “budget” for our health care? Fine, make drugs affordable not the $450 for my asthma inhaler. A ct scan or MRI or ultrasound should cost $200.

        I can’t fathom what you’re living through jazziz2. Mr. 57 and I were lucky that we weren’t seriously ill until ACA and Medicare. A kidney stone – a relatively easy thing to treat – would have killed me. I don’t have $50,000 to pay for it. I would have lost my house, my ability to have credit, everything. ACA was a big step in the right direct, as was Medicare and Social Security when first enacted. It needs improvement, etc. That’s how major initiatives work. That was before RWNJ’s took over the damned GOP and sold hate in place of the American commons.

    • March 21, 2017 at 11:06 am

      57, can I share what you have written in a tweet?

    • March 21, 2017 at 1:08 pm

      My full hip replacement in 2008 was $96k, of which I paid $0 – because I had an HMO at the time. 🙂

      And I only spent two nights in the hospital.

      • March 21, 2017 at 1:15 pm

        Only two nights!?! A friend had FHR on February 14th; was in hospital for a week and rehab for 3 weeks…

        • March 21, 2017 at 1:42 pm

          I fell out of a flying split at 16, landing on my left femur so hard I bounced, and gave myself two hairline fractures, that led to necrosis decades later.

          I had a friend who had the surgery in the 80’s. She had an incision from her mid thigh on the side, up to her waist, It was 18″ long. She was on crutches fir 6 weeks, and a cane for almost a year.

          Mine: I have a 4″ incision on my front left hip/top of the thigh. They put you in what I like to call the Magic Ski-boot Table, where they put both your feet into the magic ski-boots, and the table splits into to mobile leg lift things.. so they can rotate your leg almost 360°. They cut my skin, then moved everything below all the way to the bone (cutting nothing but the skin), then they cut your leg off (head of the femur), hollow it out to the right depth for the appliance, then drop it in, measure to make sure it’s sunk to the proper millimeter, and both side match – that was weird – more on that later…

          Then they clean out your joint socket, attach a poly-metal cup to your pelvis, make sure when it’s all in place, you won’t tip over, move everything back, sew you up, stand you up, and voila! We Can Rebuild Her. We have the technology.

          I literally walked out of the hospital two days later on a cane. No crutches ever. The only complication I have is there’s some nerve entrapment in my scar tissue that’s attached to my front flexor, so no more can can dancing for me.

          The weird thing, when I first stood up the next day. Because my femur had shrunk 1/2″ due to the necrosis, it felt like I was falling to the right… but I wasn’t, I was even for the first time in about 15 years.

          • 27 57andfemale
            March 21, 2017 at 5:04 pm

            The technology for hip replacements has come really far. It’s a much easier surgery than knee replacement. My best friend had a hip replacement last December. She recuperated really fast.

            But still – $96K, Tally?!

            • March 21, 2017 at 5:06 pm

              Yeah – $96k. When I got the EOB I almost fainted, until I saw where it said, “You Do NOT Owe: $96,000. *whew*. I literally only paid $10 to see my Doc. Everything else was totally covered.

          • March 21, 2017 at 6:04 pm

            Bless you! I have an aversion to surgery — CONTROL FREAK! Two years into my career (1976), I started with knee problems; saw too many Marines hobbling on canes, the result of running on asphalt in boots. Got myself a sneaker chit; still have minor knee problems, however, running in sneakers vice boots saved me from surgery…

      • 30 57andfemale
        March 21, 2017 at 4:30 pm

        It’s mind-boggling, Tally. This is so broken.

  8. 31 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 10:01 am

    Anderson Cooper: Is the President of U.S. a Liar or Not? The answer: Is this a real question? HE IS A LIAR. Next question.

  9. 35 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:04 am

  10. 36 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 10:11 am

  11. 37 catrst
    March 21, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Love the opening with Sunny and Bo and our FLOTUS forever. As I was doing my morning walk we passed two newborn calves and their moms and cute just doesn’t cut it. One we were told was born last night. Still had a wet umbilical cord my friend pointed out. My daffodils are back after last weeks snow and found a few new things popping out this morning. My pansies and violas are out on the porch getting acclimated during the day and will soon go in their flower boxes and strawberry pot respectively. I love TOD, I love Nerdy and everyone that posts here, I love the Obamas dearly and I believe we will overcome. This morning I really do.

    • 38 GGail
      March 21, 2017 at 10:58 am

      catrst, while reading your lovely comment, the sun shined into my office window! Happy Spring to you ❤

  12. March 21, 2017 at 10:15 am

    I’m happy to imagine our FLOTUS enjoying the outdoors with more freedom, going wherever she pleases, rolling down the windows. I miss her terribly.

  13. March 21, 2017 at 10:29 am

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and TOD family, I hope all is well with everyone this lovely Tuesday morning. Congrats df, on being first this morning.

    Nerdy, thanks so much for helping Ms. Chips and for the sacrifices you’re making for us TOD’ers. 💫🙏👌👊❤

    To all, I hope your wonderful countenance brings out the good in others, encourages others to act justly, and stimulate the merriness in others today. ❤ ❤ ❤

    I am thankful to God that I lived to witness one of the greatest President of The United States of America in President Barack Hussein Obama ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆

  14. March 21, 2017 at 10:37 am

    From df, link at the top of this morning thread.

  15. 47 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:41 am

    DiFI:)

  16. 48 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:43 am

    • 49 susanne
      March 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      Aloha df, not your words, but I can’t let this pass by: Not “Our president”– but “The acting president”. 🙂

  17. 50 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:44 am

  18. 51 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:45 am

  19. 52 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 10:45 am

    I’m just gonna leave this right here.

    GM TOD

  20. 56 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:48 am

  21. 57 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:50 am

    Mr. “I Got Mine So Fuck You!” Ryan…

  22. 59 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 10:51 am

    Off to work:) Dare I to dream that today will bring more stunning revelations about this totally corrupt and morally bankrupt administration…??

  23. 60 Linda
    March 21, 2017 at 11:01 am

    Gorsuch just said he would respect the precedent set in Bush v Gore. That’s interesting considering that the Supreme Court said in writing that the ruling was not meant to be used as a precedent.

    I guess Gorsuch didn’t read the part of the ruling where the Court declared its ruling to be “limited to the present circumstances,” instead of precedential in the usual course.

    h/t to tpm

    • 61 57andfemale
      March 21, 2017 at 11:16 am

      I saw this: Gorsuch is begging the ideologues to come up with another legal argument to take pro-choice away from women.

      You guys know that he comes from a pedigreed family of RWNJ’s, don’t you? He’s been immersed in this b.s. his entire life.

    • 62 57andfemale
      March 21, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      You mean the crackpot idea that voting is subject to contract law, and Bush could have been “harmed” if the votes were actually fully counted?

      I want out of this madhouse. Now.

  24. 63 Linda
    March 21, 2017 at 11:05 am

    A former law student of Judge Neil Gorsuch, President Trump’s nominee for the U.S. Supreme Court, alleges that in a course she took from Gorsuch at the University of Colorado Law School last year, the judge told his class that employers, specifically law firms, should ask women seeking jobs about their plans for having children and implied that women manipulate companies starting in the interview stage to extract maternity benefits.

  25. 65 57andfemale
    March 21, 2017 at 11:12 am

    LOVE when someone can put a complicated idea in a simple tweet:

  26. 66 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Good Morning Everybody.

  27. 68 Linda
    March 21, 2017 at 11:25 am

    Whoa…from wiki

    He served as Principal Deputy to the Associate Attorney General, Robert McCallum, at the United States Department of Justice from 2005 until 2006.[23][2] During his time at the United States Department of Justice Civil Division, Gorsuch was tasked with all the “terror litigation” arising from the President’s War on Terror, successfully defending the extraordinary rendition of Khalid El-Masri, fighting the disclosure of Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse photographs, and, in November 2005, traveling to inspect the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.[33] Gorsuch helped Attorney General Alberto Gonzales prepare for hearings after the public revelation of NSA warrantless surveillance (2001–07), and worked with Senator Lindsey Graham in drafting the provisions in the Detainee Treatment Act which attempted to strip federal courts of jurisdiction over the detainees

    • 69 Linda
      March 21, 2017 at 11:27 am

      He is also against class action lawsuits.

    • 70 jacquelineoboomer
      March 21, 2017 at 1:18 pm

      The part of his career where he described himself (this morning, during the hearing) as a “scribe” and a “speechwriter.” Took no responsibility for what he was giving his bosses, as a member of the justice department. More or less he gave them what they asked for – no looking back, in his mind.

    • 71 sherijr
      March 21, 2017 at 1:19 pm

      He sounds perfect for Trump. I don’t get it.

  28. 72 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 11:48 am


    (@petesouza) on Instagram: Seven years ago today, Congress passed the Affordable Care Act. After watching the vote in the West Wing late that night, the President invited everyone upstairs to the private residence for a celebratory toast on the Truman Balcony. I rode up in the elevator with him, the VP and legislative aide Phil Schiliro.

    • 73 jacquelineoboomer
      March 21, 2017 at 1:09 pm

      Pete took photos in the elevator, etc., etc. A genius of a photographer who LOVED his subject(s).

    • March 21, 2017 at 1:30 pm

      I thought it was on the 23rd – which is why they’re trying to repeal it the same day.

      Of course, my hormone patch has broken my brain and made me stupid, so…. ?

  29. March 21, 2017 at 11:49 am

    57andfemale, allowed me to share her recent Healthcare experience in the tweet below. BTW 57, I hope you are doing well and recovering quickly.

    • 76 cd4biden
      March 21, 2017 at 1:40 pm

      Great job ranman. Everyone needs to know about these true stories of the devastation medical issues can do to a family without good health insurance.

  30. March 21, 2017 at 12:03 pm

  31. 78 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 12:15 pm

  32. 80 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 12:23 pm

  33. 82 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    • March 21, 2017 at 1:51 pm

      Looks like that tweet has been deleted. Bummer.

      • 84 cd4biden
        March 21, 2017 at 7:41 pm

        But as they say on crime shows, Tally, nothing is ever really deleted. So hopefully someone linked it, or copied it, or stored it somewhere, and it will reappear when needed.

  34. 85 jacquelineoboomer
    March 21, 2017 at 12:35 pm

    Go, Unions!

  35. 86 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 12:38 pm

  36. 87 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 12:40 pm

  37. 88 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    We’re still marching. Same Sh.. Different Day

  38. 90 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    “I think that investors are kind of starting to discount the likelihood of the immediacy of [45’s] policies and the enthusiasm has come off the boil as a lot of his policies got mired in legislative process,” said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at BMO Private Bank. “Investors are not throwing in the towel but they are resetting their expectations.”

  39. March 21, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    Here we go…..

  40. 97 57andfemale
    March 21, 2017 at 1:21 pm

  41. 98 jacquelineoboomer
    March 21, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    I’m done watching this smug, small man. If he gets the appointment, good luck fitting in with the bigger brains on the SCOTUS, buddy.

    • 99 idon
      March 21, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      He’s a practiced liar too,

    • 101 COS
      March 21, 2017 at 2:16 pm

      Jacqueline, When I turned on the TV this morning, Sen. Feinstein was questioning Gorsuch about emails. He was beating around the bush and not really answering the question. At that moment, I thought about Merrick Garland, and told myself that I was not going to legitimize him by watching this hearing.

      • 102 jacquelineoboomer
        March 21, 2017 at 2:31 pm

        I’m at that point, now, COS. Tried to watch – and saw some good Dems trying to get him to answer – but I’m done.

    • March 21, 2017 at 6:03 pm

      I’m having a hard time listening to him; much less watching him. His opening statement and answers seem a little dramatic. His tone is smug and condescending. He seemed to have a practiced statement that amounted to pleading the 5th.

      Those feelings are amplified because he should not even be going through a confirmation hearing. He shouldn’t even be a nominee.

      • 104 jacquelineoboomer
        March 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm

        With you all the way on that! Had a to take a break from his aforementioned answers! Will try to catch up a bit, now. I think he just popped two pills with a glass of water at their break. Hmmm.

  42. 108 jacquelineoboomer
    March 21, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    [Please excuse my language.] Grassley “seems nice,” but he’s another GOP prick if I ever saw one.

    • 109 cd4biden
      March 21, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      Girl, you are on fire these days!! Love your tweet responses.

      • 110 jacquelineoboomer
        March 21, 2017 at 2:33 pm

        Ha. Thanks. Usually, I’m a bit calmer. But I’m from New Jersey – just get me riled up about a good cause and I’m “coming after ya”!

    • March 21, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      Media turned a blind eye to GOP radicalism for how long? So now we have the corrupt Trump and his Administration currently under investigation for Big crimes. When Antonin Scalia died Senate Republicans tripled down on their 8-year strategy of No. They brazenly refused to deliver on their basic constitutional responsibility to hear the U.S.President’s nominee. “The presumption should be that Gorsuch does not deserve confirmation, because the process that led to his nomination was illegitimate.”((NYT) GOP acted in an unprecedented way — and now they want fair play from Democrats. Republicans know this Supreme Court seat is a stolen seat. Dems must stop rewarding GOP for the sh!te they do. Whatever you think of Neil Gorsuch, he does not deserve to be confirmed.

  43. March 21, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    Michelle Obama has star studded brunch with Sarah Jessica Parker, Robin Roberts, and Gayle King.

  44. March 21, 2017 at 2:25 pm

  45. 123 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Hello TODts 😉
    Congrats, DF on your Solid Au ⭐
    {{{{ ❤ Chips ❤ Dudette ❤ Nerdy Wonka ❤ }}}}
    Happy Spring TODable Community.
    TOD, Rocks!!!!

  46. 125 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    Happy to see Dems now speaking Up this way.
    A stolen SCOTUS seat can never be rewarded by the Senate for a #Liar45*.

  47. March 21, 2017 at 3:12 pm

  48. 127 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm

  49. March 21, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    • March 21, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    • 131 4morefor44
      March 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      kaep can take a flying leap in my opinion. severals times during the campaign he suggested hillary should be “locked up” because emails-something-something and loudly kept saying “both sides suck the same” nonsense. garden variety libertarian is my guess…he helped bring about this insanity we’ll be dealing with the next few years.

  50. 134 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 3:35 pm

  51. 135 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:37 pm

  52. 136 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:38 pm

  53. 137 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:39 pm

  54. 138 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    In modern times, GOP started with Extreme Judges when Bork was nominated.

  55. 139 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:40 pm

  56. 140 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:42 pm

  57. 141 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    I agree but Conway is not the only liar in the White House

  58. 142 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:45 pm

  59. 143 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 3:47 pm

  60. 144 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 3:47 pm

  61. 146 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm

  62. 147 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 3:51 pm

  63. 148 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 4:07 pm

  64. 149 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 4:08 pm

  65. 150 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 4:11 pm

  66. 151 ydavis00
    March 21, 2017 at 4:13 pm

  67. 153 JER
    March 21, 2017 at 4:14 pm

  68. 155 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 4:26 pm

  69. 157 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    TOM PEREZ!!! DEMS IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!

  70. 158 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    True story.

  71. 159 desertflower
    March 21, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    Peter King. Someone please tell me what that useless SOB is still doing in Congress!

  72. 160 57andfemale
    March 21, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    I hate to be a bitch, but Barron Trump creeps me out.

    • 161 susanne
      March 21, 2017 at 5:08 pm

      Thank you 57. Every time I see a photo of that child, I shudder. Maybe it’s just that I know what the parents are like, and I project it onto him? I suspect we’ll see and hear enough about his life, as he gets older, to confirm or allay our suspicions. For now, look away. 🙂

  73. 162 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 4:34 pm

  74. 163 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    What’s in a Name? 😉

  75. 164 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 4:43 pm

  76. 165 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    O.M.G.

    👀 👀 👀

  77. 168 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    I don’t support our Citizens suing this way.
    US did a lot supporting these families.
    Our History on what other Nations may see Us as acting in bad faith, to turn around & sue Us? Thousands died in India many yrs ago……Our US Company was at fault…..just an e.g.

  78. 169 donna dem 4 obama
    March 21, 2017 at 4:58 pm

  79. 171 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 5:08 pm


    KO
    #Resist #49

  80. 172 Nena20409
    March 21, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    Amature Hour continues at the WH

  81. 173 sherijr
    March 21, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    So someone on our “nextdoor.com” site posted a petition asking folks to sign it- against our state becoming a sanctuary state- there is a bill in our congress right now. She is basing the petition on this rape that apparently occurred here in MD by an immigrant male. Now I see that Spicer spoke about it too. This is how they’ll do it- single out crime committed by only certain individuals- ignoring all the other stuff. I wrote “no thanks” to her on the website.. and so far I haven’t seen anyone on our Nextdoor admit to signing it, or speak up for it.- the petition.

    This reminds me of how back when I watched the news- they always always informed us of any crime committed by anyone who was black or brown.. but seldom about crime by white folks. For every “rape” committed by some Hispanic male, I am certain we could dig up 20 more by white American males. If we needed too. This kind of shit is going to make me nuts.


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