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  1. November 18, 2025 at 2:14 pm

    Hey COS. Congrats on furst.

  2. 5 GGail
    November 18, 2025 at 2:22 pm

    Congrats COS on First.

    Hi there 57 and Jackie :-)

  3. 7 vetivera24
    November 18, 2025 at 2:37 pm

    Congrats COS! Afternoon folks.

  4. 8 Jeff
    November 18, 2025 at 2:55 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/11/18/obamas-g20-claim-of-the-longest-stretch-of-uninterrupted-private-sector-job-growth-in-history/

    Don’t really like Kessler much but this article was pretty extensive and gave the president a Geppetto mark which is basically flat out truth.

    • 9 Linda
      November 18, 2025 at 3:02 pm

      I nailed him a couple years ago about a claim he made that repealing Obamacare would not do anything to Medicare…..

      He actually responded that I was right…..I saved his e-mail but lost every one I saved when my PC crashed .

      • 10 Jeff
        November 18, 2025 at 3:06 pm

        LOL! Well the guy is a partisan hack sometimes or he rubs me that way which is why I can’t stand him. However every once in a while fact checkers get it right.

    • 11 57andfemale
      November 18, 2025 at 3:42 pm

  5. 12 Jeff
    November 18, 2025 at 3:00 pm

    So I was reading what happened about Jerusalem and I’m honestly puzzled at the wording of the headlines. 4 people get (3 Americans, 1 Brit) and it’s a massacre. When 4 kids get killed on a beach it’s called no such thing by our media. Oh and not to gloss over when 2200 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, that too was not called a massacre by the corporate pro-Israel media.

    Why is this?

    • 13 Linda
      November 18, 2025 at 3:08 pm

      Propaganda for the American audience. Although I think that others were badly injured in this incident….

      What bothers me is that our news media is showing all the blood.

      I don’t recall any of them doing that when people are ” massacred ” here in the US….

  6. 15 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 18, 2025 at 3:04 pm

    Good afternoon, TOD! Back from the funeral and repast. Am constantly amazed at what a small world it is. The deceased was one of my Mom’s best friends; she and her husband are always included in my maternal family gatherings. I’ve just became acquainted with my paternal family in 2004; since then, my late father (prior to his death), his sister, and his brothers have also been included in my parties. My paternal Aunt and one Uncle developed a friendship with the deceased. The Aunt and Uncle attended today’s funeral; at the repast they discovered that members of the deceased’s extended family are also members of my paternal family. Small world…

    Now, off to a power nap. Black Violins is at 7 pm…

    • 16 Desertflower
      November 18, 2025 at 3:08 pm

      I wanted to go see Black Violin when they were here a week or so ago. Never made it because life got in the way. Again. Enjoy the concert… I’ll be there in spirit:)

  7. 17 prettyfoot58
    November 18, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    Smartypants says..

    As Matt Yglesias pointed out - it is the post-policy punditry of folks like Todd and Fournier that provides cover for obstructionist Republicans and makes the bipartisanship they pretend to pine for impossible.

  8. 18 JER
    November 18, 2025 at 3:09 pm

    LIVE NOW: MO Gov. Nixon Remarks in St. Louis - http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml

    • 19 jacquelineoboomer
      November 18, 2025 at 3:19 pm

      • 20 JER
        November 18, 2025 at 3:52 pm

  9. 21 arapaho415
    November 18, 2025 at 3:19 pm

    This morning DF and JER posted @Lawrence’s 5-minute Rewrite segment where he read a blog by a conservative Houston Chronicle reporter.

    It made for compelling viewing — it wasn’t until the end of the segment that @Lawrence admitted that he was reading, verbatim, Chris Ladd’s Nov 10 blog.

    Yes, the GOP will obstruct from now until Nov 2016, at which time a Dem will be elected President by virtue of the Dem’s blue wall.

    Between now and then, the Dems have the master strategist of our time on our side to circumvent the treasonous GOP.

    From the article/@Lawrence segment:
    “The Blue Wall is block of states that no Republican Presidential candidate can realistically hope to win. Tuesday that block finally extended to New Hampshire, meaning that at the outset of any Presidential campaign, a minimally effective Democratic candidate can expect to win 257 electoral votes without even trying. That’s 257 out of the 270 needed to win.

    Arguably Virginia now sits behind that wall as well. Democrats won the Senate seat there without campaigning in a year when hardly anyone but Republicans showed up to vote and the GOP enjoyed its largest wave in modern history. Virginia would take that tally to 270. Again, that’s 270 out of 270.”

    • November 18, 2025 at 4:08 pm

      Only problem is many of the “Blue” states have GOP governors that can and will steal votes for the GOP candidate.

    • 23 susanne
      November 18, 2025 at 4:50 pm

      this is a very interesting analysis, and it certainly raises my hopes after the drubbing we got a couple of weeks ago. sam wang keeps saying the rethugs’ big gerrymander caper is about to turn against them, because of this consolidated dem stronghold, and i’m glad to hear that effect will be kicking in for 2016.

      but of course it doesn’t mean the rethugs won’t be fighting this trend, and pouring money into propaganda that undermines the ‘blue wall’. and as we’ve seen, dems won’t come out to vote if they don’t like the candidate, or the message, regardless of the blueness of their district.

      so it still comes down to putting excellent candidates forward, and sticking together on the important issues. pbo’s big smiles tell me all will be well, so i think i’ll breathe today. :)

  10. 24 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 3:47 pm

    MSNBC says they will show the Keystone vote ” Live ” starting at 6 PM…

    Gag.

  11. 25 prettyfoot58
    November 18, 2025 at 3:49 pm

    From the article…
    Outgoing U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has made the overhaul of troubled police departments among his civil-rights priorities. In the past five years, the Justice Department has investigated some 20 police departments for problems that include treatment of the mentally ill, high numbers of officer-involved shootings and patterns of excessive force and racial bias. Police departments in Detroit, Seattle and New Orleans are among those that have committed to reforms.

    • 26 MadameSoph
      November 18, 2025 at 4:07 pm

      Thank you for bringing this here Prettyfoot. This quote from Ursula Price:

      “I can name 25 Michael Browns,” she said. “We’ve been through this over and over again, so our perspective has deepened.”

      Whatever happens in Ferguson, I’m so glad that AG Holder is on this. I want justice for Micheal Brown and his family, but true justice would be for their to be no more Micheal Browns, and that requires light, transparency and overhauls of the culture and practices of these PDs.

  12. 28 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 3:54 pm

    Debbie Stabenow is a NO on Keystone

    • 29 japa21
      November 18, 2025 at 4:26 pm

      It is good to keep track. The vote will pass, but I want to remember closely those that vote NO. Not so much to punish those that vote yes, but to reward those that vote the wrong way.

      My contribution to, say, Stabenow or King, may not match what the Koch Brothers can give to those that vote yes, but it will be much more heartfelt. And, in fact, if any of those Dems that vote yes think it will improve their standing in the eys of the Koch Brothers, they are sadly mistaken.

      • 30 57andfemale
        November 18, 2025 at 4:38 pm

        They need 60 for passage. I think they had 59 but I haven’t heard of any new “yes” votes today.

        However, these cowardly Dem’s would love to veer right and leave the mess to PBO’s veto.

      • 31 Sue
        November 18, 2025 at 5:14 pm

        Dems are cowards. They would not have lost as many seats if they embraced the many accomplishments of PBO! Two come to mind NC and Colorado!

  13. 32 bella2758
    November 18, 2025 at 3:56 pm

    If the oil running through the Keystone Pipe will benefit only Canada, then why the hell do we need it to come through our land. Who else will it benefit? I heard something about those filthy rich Koch Brothers.

    • 33 57andfemale
      November 18, 2025 at 4:37 pm

      the 45 permanent jobs Keystone will create is the GOP’s idea of a jobs bill.

      • 34 bella2758
        November 18, 2025 at 5:47 pm

        45 jobs, that’s all.

        • 35 57andfemale
          November 18, 2025 at 5:51 pm

          It’s a low number. It may be as high as 100, but very low number of permanent jobs.

          Most of the building is already done - those jobs were temporary.

          There is also the issue of the jobs lost: truck drivers, etc.

          U.S. takes all the risk, environmental destruction, so China can get dirty oil and the Koch Bros. get even richer.

  14. 36 MadameSoph
    November 18, 2025 at 4:11 pm

    O.k. TODers, you’ve inspired me! I got an email this morning from DCCC asking me to “Stand with the President” alongside a list of his accomplishments (the nerve of them!), I wrote back with this:

    “I have been standing with President Barack Obama since he announced his candidacy and I have not wavered in my support. Unfortunately, this past election, many in the Democratic Party leadership and many candidates chose to not to stand with this incredibly successful President and his amazing accomplishments. If Democrats want to win again they need to follow their current leader, who was elected by a popular and an electoral vote twice. This man and his team know how to get the vote out. You wasted this expertise in the last election and wasted my donations in the process.

    In the future I will only donate, volunteer and/or get behind those in our party who choose to stand with, follow the example of, and run on the long list of accomplishments of President Obama.”

  15. 43 Diane from NJ
    November 18, 2025 at 4:19 pm

    Excellent comments. I have been so disgusted with the party as well.

  16. 44 japa21
    November 18, 2025 at 4:23 pm

    It’s hard to believe that it has only been two weeks since the roof kind of fell in with the GOP victories. By that, when you consider everything that PBO has already done and is talking about doing, it is hard to believe he could do that in only two weeks.

    All this talk about his being a “lame duck” is a quack of s**t.

  17. 49 Gazelle
    November 18, 2025 at 4:34 pm

    Pete Souza took a photo of PBO & McTurtle talking at the WH Colonade & posted it to Instagram. Some funny person responded to Pete’s Instagram w/:

    jamesskidmore
    I didn’t know the President had a pet turtle

    Here’s the link: http://instagram.com/p/vHhJpkNNHH/

  18. 51 globalcitizenlinda
    November 18, 2025 at 4:46 pm

  19. 53 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 4:49 pm

  20. 55 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 4:51 pm

  21. 56 JER
    November 18, 2025 at 5:04 pm

  22. 57 MadameSoph
    November 18, 2025 at 5:21 pm

    Did anyone see last night’s Colbert interview with Bernie Sanders? It seems he is planning to go Ralph Nader in 2016. First, he attributed the low voter turnout to (paraphrasing), “People are frustrated with the two-party system.” Then, when Stephen asked if he was running for President, he answered something like, “I’m exploring the possibility of running for President in 2016, but we need to determine if it is possible to run a campaign against Big Money by depending on $20 and $40 donations.” I yelled at the TV, “Ask the man currently in the White House! He did it twice!”

    Arghh!!

    Sorry for the vent. I’ve been very inspired and cheered up by PBO’s badassedness since the midterms. I just hate when the left stabs itself in the foot like this.

    • 58 Jackie 4 Obama
      November 18, 2025 at 5:31 pm

      I hear ya.

    • 59 jackiegrumbacher
      November 18, 2025 at 5:31 pm

      Bernie Sanders is seriously deluding himself if he thinks he’s going to create and run on a third party. He has spent his whole career complaining about people and actually accomplishing little. My answer to his question about whether it’s possible to run on small donations is that it takes a special, brilliant, charismatic person to do that with a new vision for this country and genius organizational skills. Bernie needs to only to look in the mirror to see that this is not him.

      • 60 MadameSoph
        November 18, 2025 at 5:41 pm

        You know Jackie, he reminds me of so many others on the left who talk but can’t get organized.

        I remember in the summer of 2007, Dennis Kucinich did a backyard fundraiser where I lived. PBO had already announced his candidacy, so I knew who I would be voting for in the primaries, but it was only $25 to attend, and I thought it would be a cool opportunity to hear a candidate for president speak. When we arrived, Kucinich had printed up a statement of his goals and principles. I read it while I waited and was very impressed, especially with his support for universal healthcare. When the time came for Q&A, I stood up and asked, “How do you intend to overcome the money and influence of big insurance in order to get healthcare reform passed?” Rep Kucinich answered, “Well, my health plan covers chiropractic care, so if the other members of Congress need help in growing a spine, they can go get an adjustment!” I sat down and thought to myself, ‘Well, he’s useless.’

        When the ACA came up for a vote and he was a late hold-out, you can bet I was remembering his foolishness and thinking, ‘Mofo, you better vote yes!” Thankfully, he did.

        This is what separates PBO from others on the left. He is one of us, a true liberal and man of the people, but he knows that talking about the issues of the left doesn’t matter if you don’t actually get the changes you talk about accomplished and he is willing to work to do that.

      • 61 COS
        November 18, 2025 at 5:45 pm

        I certainly hope that Bernie Sanders does not muddy the waters in 2016. I have noticed that Bernie Sanders doesn’t say anything different than most Democrats. I think most are against big money and for the middle class, but they are realistic enough to know that you can’t compete without funds. He says the same stuff over and over. He should just make a recording.

        • 62 MadameSoph
          November 18, 2025 at 6:52 pm

          :-) Just picturing a small recording device with Sen. Sander’s voice coming out of it making appearances on punditry shows.

    • 63 theo67
      November 18, 2025 at 6:29 pm

      It’ll be interesting to see what Bernie Sanders plans to tout as his accomplishments. Blowing hot air isn’t normally regarded as an accomplishment.

  23. 65 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 5:28 pm

    Where will the vote be televised?

  24. 69 yardarm756
    November 18, 2025 at 5:52 pm

    Sen. Boxer is calling ‘em out before the vote.

  25. 72 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 5:56 pm

    Barbara Boxer just called Keystone XL the ” X-tra Lethal ” Pipeline

    Voting has begun

  26. 73 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 5:57 pm

    $%#@*&!! You have to have cable in order to watch CSPAN online now! Infuriating!

  27. 80 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 5:58 pm

    I watched that last few minutes of Senator Hoeven. What a liar he was. He claims this pipeline will give us energy independence. How? We are not getting any of the oil. How is that going to do us any good?

  28. 82 susanne
    November 18, 2025 at 5:59 pm

    the pledge of allegiance.

  29. 83 Don
    November 18, 2025 at 5:59 pm

    They are voting now!

  30. 84 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:02 pm

    It will be very interesting to see how the losers vote…Begich, Hagan, Pryor…..etc. They were all in favor and they lost anyway.

  31. 85 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 6:02 pm

    It doesn’t look like the whole Senate is even there.

  32. 87 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:06 pm

    It looks like Landrieu just sent Manchin on a mission….

    Of course she had to go get him from the Republican side of the aisle.

    Ugh !

  33. 88 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 6:07 pm

    Love how everyone walks away when Landrieu approaches them.

  34. 89 Anjo
    November 18, 2025 at 6:09 pm

    Just dropping in to ‘big up’ GoBrooklyn and LL also any one else who is having a health challenge..know that we are praying for you and sending positive feelings your way

  35. 90 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:09 pm

    cspan is playing games like everyone else.

    They usually have the vote counter up on the bottom of the screen…

  36. 91 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:11 pm

    Just 20 Aye’s so far

  37. 92 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 6:11 pm

    Stabenow is talking to Landrieu. I think she is against it correct?

  38. 93 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 6:12 pm

    King voted no. He is the independent.

  39. 94 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:12 pm

    Pryor and Begich and Donnelly all Ayes.

    Both Udall’s NO

  40. 95 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 6:13 pm

    Manchin a yes.

    Warner was a yes?

  41. 97 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 6:14 pm

    Freakin Tester voted yes.

  42. 98 bella2758
    November 18, 2025 at 6:14 pm

    If it pass, I hope President Obama veto it.

  43. 99 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 6:16 pm

    14 more votes to go.

  44. 106 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:16 pm

    1 more no vote needed

  45. 107 hopefruit2
    November 18, 2025 at 6:17 pm

    THE BILL HAS FAILED/. Good news!

  46. 108 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:18 pm

    Woot …

    41 NO’s

    Bye Bye Mary Koch

  47. 109 Jackie 4 Obama
    November 18, 2025 at 6:18 pm

    Bill fails!

  48. 110 Don
    November 18, 2025 at 6:18 pm

    Thats gotta sting!

  49. 112 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 6:20 pm

  50. 113 Don
    November 18, 2025 at 6:20 pm

    Down goes Keystone! Down goes Keystone! Down goes Keystone!

  51. 114 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:21 pm

    happy dancing…..

  52. 115 Vicki
    November 18, 2025 at 6:22 pm

    I watched until the 41st vote. Keystone goes down.
    PBO does not have to deal with this for now.
    GREAT!!!!

  53. 116 yardarm756
    November 18, 2025 at 6:22 pm

    Lesson: Never stick your ass out of the window of a train!

  54. 124 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:25 pm

    Was that Indian Chanting in the Gallery ?

  55. 127 desertflower
    November 18, 2025 at 6:26 pm

    It’s a good time to tune in to TOD! FU, KOCH SUCKERS! (sorry…carried away!)

  56. 129 Don
    November 18, 2025 at 6:28 pm

    Awww, turtle has a sad.

  57. 130 meta
    November 18, 2025 at 6:30 pm

    So McConnell steps up and says the Keystone bill will be brought to the floor again in January.
    WHATEVER, Turtle.

    • 131 theo67
      November 18, 2025 at 6:39 pm

      I wonder if any of those who voted for him wonder about all the other things he [Mitch McConnell] could be doing with his time to make their lives better.

  58. 133 Linda
    November 18, 2025 at 6:30 pm

    Ugh…the media still hoping PBO will ” deal” ( cave ) on the pipeline to other things passed.

    After all this time, they still think this President can be manipulated by their stupidity.


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