Thanks pf - I’ll keep learning about him. I was impressed with Hillary at the Benghazi!! event but I don’t think the US needs family dynasties and I’m still confused why she wants the job - she will need a super super majority to get anything done.
Night all…crawling into bed to finish watching my Buckeyes:) Hope that everyone has a good evening. Maybe see some video tomorrow of the JJ speeches/???
Roman Catholic bishops have finished an often fractious synod on the family by reaching a compromise on divisive issues.
Doctrine towards divorcees has been softened but there is no change in the church’s stance on homosexuality.
In comments afterwards, Pope Francis appeared to criticise conservative bishops.
The church, he said, should confront difficult issues “fearlessly, without burying our heads in the sand”.
At the synod, the name given to the meeting of Roman Catholic leaders, bishops voted on 94 articles dealing with how the church treats the family.
The most contentious, dealing with whether divorced and remarried believers should be allowed to play a full role in the church, only just passed.
The approved text calls for a case-by-case approach.
It also reiterates church teaching that homosexuals should not be discriminated against but said there were “absolutely no grounds” for gay marriage.
In his summary of the three-week gathering, Pope Francis said he wanted it to be about “listening to and making heard the voices of the families”.
But he said the synod had “laid bare the closed hearts which frequently hide even behind the Church’s teachings or good intentions”, remarks seen as an attack on conservatives.
but he challenged the notion that these issues were un-challengable…and for that i thank him…he made room for dissent….
this notion that divorced folks are not in a state of grace …so that they cannot not receive communion is bogus…no one can tell if a person is in a state of grace seeing as no one can know what God has bestowed on a person…
i read a some of this amk…i did not see if there was any move towards ordaining women
I caught part of Martin’s speech. Other than his stand on TPP he’s my guy now that Joe is out. He did not have nearly as many supporters there as Hillary has there. I missed Bernie’s speech. Listening to Hillary now give applause lines for PBO and VP. I am glad she is recognizing their work.
I saw them leaving. He has some weird followers. I am sure they are all angry that the Bern’s poll numbers aren’t moving in spite of those huge crowds.
Got delayed in finishing watching MO’M’s speech, but am working my way through the recording now. At first - MOSTLY BECAUSE THE MAN ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO USE A MICROPHONE, IN THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO SCREAM INTO IT - I was getting pulled in a bit more than usual (read: trying to allow myself that, to give him a “fair” - Ha! - shot). But there are too many “we need to start today” lines before saying things that President Obama has already been working for … and he’s against TPP … and I really don’t think I have enough of an interest to watch any more of the dinner.
That was a joke question pf? - What have they ever done other than support RWNJs - Trump is their flavor of the month - media changes debate rules because Trump is a wimp and can’t handle questions for very long.
Re tonight from the tso.co page: Al Giordano The short version: Clinton held her own. Bernie had a disastrous night. And O’Malley is squarely in play now in a way he wasn’t yet before this to supplant Sanders as the alternative.
.@MartinOMalley at Iowa #IDPJJ used the Marshall Ganz "Story of of self, story of now, to story of us" framework that Obama used 8 yrs ago
— AlGiordano (@AlGiordano) October 25, 2025
I’m just now able to begin to focus on what was said. I will waste no time on Bernie.
Am very interested in hearing exactly what Gov O’Malley said, but am much more interested in what he and his team do in the next few days/weeks. HRC’s totally predictable focus on herself is a grave mistake:
Hi @AlGiordano
What I hope @MartinOMalley does is draw attention to HRC's focus on 'HER' whereas PBO focused on 'US.'
Big Diff!
#YesWeCan
— Bobfr (@Our4thEstate) October 25, 2025
Just wish, at this point, Ms Jarrett was able to join MOM’s campaign full time like she did for Senator Obama in the Fall of 2007!!!
bob, i’m getting despondent, for real. i first remember “hillary is inevitable” talk as early as 2000. president obama squashed that in 2008 and i thought it was over. now after all these years, the “inevitable” stuff is back, and using money collected from rupert murdoch and other trickle-downers, the clintons are looking as if it might be the case this time, 15 f-ing years later!!! i’m still hoping for a miracle and that she won’t be the democratic nominee, but it’s getting hard to keep the faith.
Don’t be despondent. I can’t tell you how many wise asses on DK, Dunderground, pundits, know-it-alls …. told me at this time in ’07 that PBO had no chance of even being a contender. His organization at the time was in trouble. Rep Lewis had endorsed HRC. She had all the big $$s ……
We know the outcome.
If MOM wants it badly enough he can beat her. I have every intention of supporting him to the fullest.
i see that #hillaryman up in here above with some tweets (linked, i know…). this is the same guy who recently wrote this on al giordano’s blog:
“Tom Watson Hey, I’m fired up, ready to go - the true 21st candidate is on the march and she’s doing it herself, on the stage. #brilliant”
hillary herself (brushing off her shoulders, which was so contrived and fake) and now her minions such as this guy are all stealing president obama’s stuff, yet giving him little credit for anything! f- these ungrateful rupert murdoch-friending corpratists. how in the work is the d.l.c. co-founder/leader fro the 1990s the “true 21st century candidate” after president obama?!?!? these clintonistas are as robotic as any republican. so weird.
because people accept dashed hopes at different paces, please try (if you can) to avoid appearing to make people hurry up and get on board with the Hillary candidacy;
this is what i will say…and this will go for myself….i will do my best to stay out of GOTCHA…knee jerk reactions….the two candidates in the race for my consideration are Clinton and OMalley….i will try to keep an open mind…they will never be PBO…that saying…one of them has to win…i will be looking for the candidate who will fulfill the President’s legacy the most….
White House.gov
Jon Favreau for the WIN
comment # 2 … maybe
and Prettyfoot for the TOD win! So appreciate all Fava did for and with PBO on the campaign trail and in the White House.
me too…
:)
Good photo - I know virtually nothing about the man - then again in 2007 I knew nothing about PBO
donna knows much more about him..but he gave a good speech….he put himself on the map
Thanks pf - I’ll keep learning about him. I was impressed with Hillary at the Benghazi!! event but I don’t think the US needs family dynasties and I’m still confused why she wants the job - she will need a super super majority to get anything done.
was not impressed by Bernie’s speech…
Donna are you watching??
Did HRC speak yet? I just tuned in.
not yet…Bernie Sanders spoke and OMalley is speaking now
Thx PF.
I missed it. Now I have to go find video. I left you a message on Facebook.
he is still speaking
http://whotv.com/on-air/breaking-news-live-stream/
GM Donna….answered
Action Not Words…
I’m watching on Cspan now.
Night all…crawling into bed to finish watching my Buckeyes:) Hope that everyone has a good evening. Maybe see some video tomorrow of the JJ speeches/???
was watching the Buckeyes - the difference in points was an “almost criminal” punishment for Rutgers
Roman Catholic bishops have finished an often fractious synod on the family by reaching a compromise on divisive issues.
Doctrine towards divorcees has been softened but there is no change in the church’s stance on homosexuality.
In comments afterwards, Pope Francis appeared to criticise conservative bishops.
The church, he said, should confront difficult issues “fearlessly, without burying our heads in the sand”.
At the synod, the name given to the meeting of Roman Catholic leaders, bishops voted on 94 articles dealing with how the church treats the family.
The most contentious, dealing with whether divorced and remarried believers should be allowed to play a full role in the church, only just passed.
The approved text calls for a case-by-case approach.
It also reiterates church teaching that homosexuals should not be discriminated against but said there were “absolutely no grounds” for gay marriage.
In his summary of the three-week gathering, Pope Francis said he wanted it to be about “listening to and making heard the voices of the families”.
But he said the synod had “laid bare the closed hearts which frequently hide even behind the Church’s teachings or good intentions”, remarks seen as an attack on conservatives.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34629539
but he challenged the notion that these issues were un-challengable…and for that i thank him…he made room for dissent….
this notion that divorced folks are not in a state of grace …so that they cannot not receive communion is bogus…no one can tell if a person is in a state of grace seeing as no one can know what God has bestowed on a person…
i read a some of this amk…i did not see if there was any move towards ordaining women
interesting how O’Malley moved pass the President…by saying that we elected a president not a magician..
Yeah he uses that line quite a bit. :(
And those TPP comments only got a tepid response.
i can accept it…it is accepting of the President and then tries to move pass him without taking a swipe….i can live with that
My marathon day online continues. Tonight’s menu:
Flat iron steak, seasoned with blackening season, grilled on stovetop grill
Fried red potatoes
Carrots with habanero jelly
I hate to make comparisons but we certainly have been spoiled by the oratory skills of PBO.
yup, our expectations have been set high. damn the kenyan.
indeed…..
Yes! Since that spine-tingling keynote speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004, Barack Obama has had no peer.
Donnna your ex governor did pretty good…i have a few bumps with him…but a wonderful speech
He was enjoying himself. He took a couple of veiled swipes at Bernie (gun manufacturing laws) and HRC (sways with the wind). He was good.
Wow, HRC is certainly saying the right thing about our President.
Well they have all figured out that they have to embrace PBO’s accomplishments.
Biden told them that
LIVE NOW: Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, Des Moines, Iowa (Hillary speaking now) - http://www.cbsnews.com/liveFeed/widget.shtml
I caught part of Martin’s speech. Other than his stand on TPP he’s my guy now that Joe is out. He did not have nearly as many supporters there as Hillary has there. I missed Bernie’s speech. Listening to Hillary now give applause lines for PBO and VP. I am glad she is recognizing their work.
I saw them leaving. He has some weird followers. I am sure they are all angry that the Bern’s poll numbers aren’t moving in spite of those huge crowds.
Does this happen at other events? Just too weird - they don’t want to hear what anyone else has to say??
His fans are candidate-centric radicals, kind of like the old Ron Paul radicals of yore.
Party Unity My Ass, they said
Yeah, your guy won, but we’ll fight him
Now the high heel’s on the other foot
That ol’ cry for unity’s back to bite ’em.
lemme guess, white dudebros?
embedded tweet
Got delayed in finishing watching MO’M’s speech, but am working my way through the recording now. At first - MOSTLY BECAUSE THE MAN ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO USE A MICROPHONE, IN THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO SCREAM INTO IT - I was getting pulled in a bit more than usual (read: trying to allow myself that, to give him a “fair” - Ha! - shot). But there are too many “we need to start today” lines before saying things that President Obama has already been working for … and he’s against TPP … and I really don’t think I have enough of an interest to watch any more of the dinner.
Hey, I gave it a shot!
Hillary had a loud group supporting her. Was Bernie’s group as loud?
I didn’t listen to Hillary, but who could hear Bernie’s group above his loud voice? :)
:)
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OK, non-political news: My informant Jeff Fecke has just told me that Time has a story that fusion power is closer than we think. FUSION. POWER!!!!
Wow!
heh!!! don’t you start now.
You started FURST! I just followed… :)
So that’s the way it’s gonna be, huh? Ok, challenge accepted.
***
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This is what we’re facing.
See everyone tomorrow.
is this legal….and what will the other journalists do in protest
That was a joke question pf? - What have they ever done other than support RWNJs - Trump is their flavor of the month - media changes debate rules because Trump is a wimp and can’t handle questions for very long.
i think that Ramos should challenge the reporters…
I would love anyone to challenge them - but they’ll give in to Trump - they are not the media of past times - grovel to the GOP and wealth
perhaps…but he has to make a vocal protest and challenge others to stand with him
you mean the other journalists who acquiesced and even approved of Trump kicking out Jorge Ramos?
yes.. i meant those..sometimes this is too much to bear…but we still must protest..because it is wrong
wink, wink, nudge, nudge for unohoo.
Re tonight from the tso.co page: Al Giordano The short version: Clinton held her own. Bernie had a disastrous night. And O’Malley is squarely in play now in a way he wasn’t yet before this to supplant Sanders as the alternative.
Couple of interesting tweets from him 4more …
I’m just now able to begin to focus on what was said. I will waste no time on Bernie.
Am very interested in hearing exactly what Gov O’Malley said, but am much more interested in what he and his team do in the next few days/weeks. HRC’s totally predictable focus on herself is a grave mistake:
Just wish, at this point, Ms Jarrett was able to join MOM’s campaign full time like she did for Senator Obama in the Fall of 2007!!!
#FORWARD
:)
^10!! :)
bob, i’m getting despondent, for real. i first remember “hillary is inevitable” talk as early as 2000. president obama squashed that in 2008 and i thought it was over. now after all these years, the “inevitable” stuff is back, and using money collected from rupert murdoch and other trickle-downers, the clintons are looking as if it might be the case this time, 15 f-ing years later!!! i’m still hoping for a miracle and that she won’t be the democratic nominee, but it’s getting hard to keep the faith.
Was just departing, 4more.
Don’t be despondent. I can’t tell you how many wise asses on DK, Dunderground, pundits, know-it-alls …. told me at this time in ’07 that PBO had no chance of even being a contender. His organization at the time was in trouble. Rep Lewis had endorsed HRC. She had all the big $$s ……
We know the outcome.
If MOM wants it badly enough he can beat her. I have every intention of supporting him to the fullest.
Now, I’ve got to get a bit of sleep :)
thanks, bob.
I’m at the Huntington with Tally & JOJO 😎
i see that #hillaryman up in here above with some tweets (linked, i know…). this is the same guy who recently wrote this on al giordano’s blog:
“Tom Watson Hey, I’m fired up, ready to go - the true 21st candidate is on the march and she’s doing it herself, on the stage. #brilliant”
hillary herself (brushing off her shoulders, which was so contrived and fake) and now her minions such as this guy are all stealing president obama’s stuff, yet giving him little credit for anything! f- these ungrateful rupert murdoch-friending corpratists. how in the work is the d.l.c. co-founder/leader fro the 1990s the “true 21st century candidate” after president obama?!?!? these clintonistas are as robotic as any republican. so weird.
a humble request:
because people accept dashed hopes at different paces, please try (if you can) to avoid appearing to make people hurry up and get on board with the Hillary candidacy;
^5
I intend to work my butt off to be certain that the Queen is not coronated, just as I did in ’07-’08, Linda.
And, now I know who I’m going to be supporting ….
Yes WE Can
good night TOD ….
voting for Hillary but vote whoever you want.
this is what i will say…and this will go for myself….i will do my best to stay out of GOTCHA…knee jerk reactions….the two candidates in the race for my consideration are Clinton and OMalley….i will try to keep an open mind…they will never be PBO…that saying…one of them has to win…i will be looking for the candidate who will fulfill the President’s legacy the most….
I am declaring for O’Malley in the Primary and whichever Dem for the General.
i am leaning there a well OG!
Goodnight TODville, and all the ships at sea!
stolen from rawstory
Sadly for Jeb, the only Democrat he had a chance of beating, Lincoln Chaffee, just dropped out.
Morning!
http://theobamadiary.com/2015/10/25/early-bird-chat-579/