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rise and shine

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Morning everyone, will catch up later ;-)


349 Responses to “rise and shine”


  1. 1 EWOK2
    December 3, 2025 at 10:15 am

    good morning family

  2. 2 Sonjia Duncan
    December 3, 2025 at 10:18 am

    Good morning Ewok2 and our TOD Family.

  3. 3 meta
    December 3, 2025 at 10:20 am

    Good morning, TODville.

    This is very cool:

    Director David Lynch donates $1M to teach soldiers, vets the stress-reducing benefits of Transcendental Meditation

    http://bit.ly/ujXnpy

  4. 4 utaustinliberal
    December 3, 2025 at 10:25 am

    Morning TODers and Chipsticks. Wow you have to be living in an alternate reality when Alex Witt of MSNBC in her Office Politics segment allows Mort Zuckerman to say he’s been a Democrat all his life and he’s disappointed with PBO because he’s not like Reagan. That he wishes for the days of the Reagan administration. What sane Democrat wishes for a Reagan presidency and administration? That it’s PBO’s fault that he doesn’t get along with the likes of Boehner and McConnell since Reagan and Tip O’Neal were so chummy. Where the heck was Mort when PBO extended olive branch after olive branch to the turtle and the weeper of the house? Where the heck was Mort when long before PBO placed his hand on Lincoln’s bible the GOP in the house and senate declared war against him? MSNBC really has jumped the shark in terms of lazy, sloppy, and shoddy journalism.

    • 5 Linda
      December 3, 2025 at 10:29 am

      Yeah…and Zuckerman claimed he helped write a speech for President Obama. Remember that one?

      • 6 anniebella
        December 3, 2025 at 1:12 pm

        Zuckerman and people like him is full of alot of crap, because they always want to blame President Obama, but none of these idiots ever say anything about the radical right wingnuts Tea Republicans that this President has to deal with. These people like Zuckerman don’t take in to consideration that these radical rightwing nuts don’t like this President, and some of them are racists. And Reagen’s Republicans are not the same Republicans here today. This President has tried to reach out to these Republicans, time and time again. But all he got was slap in the face. So “F” Zuckerman, and Alex Witt too.

        • 7 proudofobama
          December 3, 2025 at 5:52 pm

          If you read up on good ol Morty, you’ll see that (according to Wiki) he swings back and forth between Republican and Democrat. Someone who doesn’t know what they believe needs to just shut up. He also dated Ariana HuffPO.

          Plus, here’s a man who fancies himself as some kind of economic expert who allowed himself to be swindled out of millions by Bernie Madoff. Seriously, what qualifies you to give the President of the US advice.

          Also, read that he had a child in 2008 at 71 and no one knows who the mother is. What kind of mess is that?

          • 8 Chi
            December 3, 2025 at 6:29 pm

            …Zuckerman is also an active supporter of Israeli and international Jewish causes. Between 2001 and 2003, Zuckerman was the chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. Typically, the nominating committee attempts to choose a person who is both respected and uncontroversial. However, Zuckerman was widely opposed by liberal Jewish factions.[19][20] Nonetheless, Zuckerman was eventually elected and served a full term.
            In their 2006 paper The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, John Mearsheimer, political science professor at the University of Chicago, and Stephen Walt, academic dean of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, named Zuckerman a member of the media wing of the “Israeli lobby” in the United States.[21] Zuckerman replied: “I would just say this: The allegations of this disproportionate influence of the Jewish community remind me of the 92-year-old man sued in a paternity suit. He said he was so proud; he pleaded guilty.”[21]
            President George W. Bush appointed Zuckerman to serve on the Honorary Delegation to accompany him to Jerusalem for the celebration of the 60th anniversary of the State of Israel in May 2008.[22][23]…

            …Zuckerman considered challenging Kirsten Gillibrand for her New York United States Senate seat in the 2010 election to fill the unexpired term of this seat (which comes up for a full six year term in 2012).[33] Although Zuckerman has been known as a Democrat, he was speculated to run as a Republican or an independent in order to avoid an expensive primary.[34]
            Critics pointed to apparent inconsistencies in Zuckerman’s publicly-stated positions on key issues. Wayne Barrett of the Village Voice wrote: “If real estate titan Mort Zuckerman gets into the senate race against Kirsten Gillibrand, we’ll finally have a vigorous debate about the big-ticket issues troubling Americans. All we have to do is listen to Mort and we’ll get both sides of the key economic questions.”[35]
            However, on March 2, 2025 he declined to run, citing family and work obligations.[36]…

            Enough said…

      • 9 Puddin'
        December 3, 2025 at 5:51 pm

        Mort is full of it…his “panties” are in a bunch…he is not a happy person…he was a Hillary supporter…nothing else needs to be said. I hit mute when he starts moving his lips

    • 10 Jovie
      December 3, 2025 at 10:31 am

      All of her interviews slam the President.
      Guess she does not like him?

      • 11 ladyjazzfromtrinidad
        December 3, 2025 at 10:46 am

        MSNBC and its overt non-subtleties,especially with Alex Nitwit and co! I can imagine before she signed her contract she had to peg into their mission statement of negativity,by pledging to fuel the meme of frustration, promising to invite all the guests who express disppointment with the President andhis administration. Shame on the ‘leaning backward’ cable outlet.
        Hey MSNBC, ‘you ain’t fooling any-one, for we see right through you’.

      • 13 Sabreen60 (@QueenMerytAmon)
        December 3, 2025 at 11:56 am

        She writes for Huff Puff - Enough said.

      • 14 luci1119
        December 3, 2025 at 2:22 pm

        Well, let’s see here, some say that we’re quick to cry Racist, but do tell pray tell , what In the HECK Is It, If It’s not RACISM. We have a President, who has done nothing but try to better our Country, reach back and help the middle class and working class Americans, and Improve life and the enviroment, and the MSM just trashes him. It’s RACISM!!! HELLOooooooooooooooooooooo. It Is what It Is, RACISM, plain and simple. Some of them don’t like to admit or call It RACISM, but that’s what It Is, RACISM, HATE, EVIL, and down right NASTY :roll:

        • 15 Puddin'
          December 3, 2025 at 8:57 pm

          I think some of them are surprised that they are racist…I mean afterall they are liberal; have black friends and they shop at Whole Foods!

    • 16 Jovie
      December 3, 2025 at 10:34 am

      Somebody should interview her views on the President.
      She has people on expressing her views.
      Coward!

    • 19 Bill
      December 3, 2025 at 10:37 am

      Everytime I hear someone praising Reagan I am mystified that there is never a follow-up question on the deficit almost tripling, Iran-Contra, or 241 American service members being killed in Beirut, all under Reagan.

      • 20 meta
        December 3, 2025 at 10:40 am

        Bill, I’m going to tweet that. As someone who suffered through Saint Ronnie’s governorship, I’ve never ever understood his popularity.

      • 21 Linda
        December 3, 2025 at 10:44 am

        Cut and Run Ronnie.

        • 22 Bill
          December 3, 2025 at 10:53 am

          He attempted to make up for Beirut by invading the “strategically important” island of Grenada. I remember reading that an invading officer had to use a pay phone to call the Pentagon for further orders because his equipment failed. The endeavor was treated as a major military accomplishment.

          • 23 Sabreen60 (@QueenMerytAmon)
            December 3, 2025 at 11:59 am

            Repubs love him because he busted the Air Traffic Controllers union; he had made a recording saying that Medicare would doom this nation and he was a hawk albeit a stupid hawk. Republicans also have convenient amnesia.

            • 24 derbingle
              December 3, 2025 at 1:25 pm

              They also conveniently forget the deficit exploded under Reagan, he raised taxes 4 times and expanded the federal government like few other Presidents. .

        • 25 anniebella
          December 3, 2025 at 6:19 pm

          I never thought Reagen was a good President,but the Republicans have turn him into a God.

      • 26 Obama Grandmama
        December 3, 2025 at 2:33 pm

        …and giving us Trickle Down Economics which is a big cause of the 1% vs 99% problems faced today.

    • 27 dotster3
      December 3, 2025 at 10:45 am

      And they had Artur Davis, a constant critic of Obama, on to represent the Dem side of things. (I swear, the biggest job opportunity in the country— AAs who are willing to criticize Obama—-multiple openings, all channels). Next up—-why the job numbers are Bad News For Obama. That’s been a flashing lights alarm grab across the news media also. It takes some twisting and turning and inside out reasoning, but many are willing to valiantly pour the cold water on the encouraging job numbers.

      • 28 dotster3
        December 3, 2025 at 10:53 am

        And next up—-msnbc’s DAILY GUEST, Buddy Roemer, in its DAILY PUSH for a 3rd party candidacy.

      • 29 vero804
        December 3, 2025 at 11:13 am

        I had to turn after listening to Davis belittle the addition of bar tender jobs and other low wage jobs. Hey buddy, it ain’t POTUS’s fault u lost trying to e governor of AL

      • December 3, 2025 at 2:02 pm

        That turncoat Artur Davis used to be my US Rep for West/Central Alabama. Although he’s probably a Black Republican at heart, he was a Dem congressman and ran as a Democrat in Alabama’s governor’s race a year ago and lost miserably in the primary. He couldn’t convince enough AA’s nor Whites to support him. He’s always been a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

        • 33 rikyrah
          December 3, 2025 at 2:09 pm

          Davis gave his poor, uninsured district the middle finger - TWICE

          by voting TWICE against the President’s healthcare bill.

          so, they returned the favor when he ran for Governor of Alabama. they voted for the White guy for the nomination….

          dude lost his OWN POLLING PLACE.

      • 35 Puddin'
        December 3, 2025 at 9:02 pm

        Artur Davis is Bitter Bob…he is mad because he ran a lousy campaign and lost.

  5. 36 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 10:48 am

    Reagan’s Legacy;
    1) Increased the National Debt by 189% ($998 billion to $2.6 trillion)
    no one else comes close.
    2) Converted millions of highpaying union jobs into low paying nonunion jobs.
    3) Cut spending on healthcare leaving exservicem¬en, disabled people,
    and old without any support and left to rot on streets.
    4) Doubled the number of poor in the country.
    5) Turned the US from the major exporter of manufactur¬ed goods in the
    world to major importer of manufactur¬ed goods.
    6) Turned US from a net importer of raw natural resources into a
    nation that exported raw natural resources (just like a third-worl¬d
    country).
    7) Funded terrorists and tried to trade arms for hostages. 8) Funded and added Saddam with his WMD.
    9) Reagan encouraged corruption¬, allowing companies to sell $25 toilet
    seats to military for $360 and $8 hammers for $120.
    10) Reagan cut income taxes on working class but increased payroll
    taxes and mandated contributi¬ons to Medicare and Social Security
    but did so in such a way that top 1% paid 15% less than they did
    before by limiting their deductions on first $61,000 but the
    working poorest had theirs increased 15%.
    11) Reagan took a staggering 436 vacation days at his ranch in 8 years.
    12) Allowed Rupert Murdoch to circumvent the immigratio¬n laws to
    purchase American media sources.
    13) Ignored the impending AIDS epidemic because it mostly affected Them People.
    14) Encouraged the Evangelica¬ls to become Political and Partisan.

    • 39 desertflower
      December 3, 2025 at 11:02 am

      Linda…this is great, but is there a link for this? It’s a keeper:)

      • 40 Linda
        December 3, 2025 at 11:05 am

        No… I actually did that myself a long time ago.

        Please add to it ….
        :-)

      • 44 Bill
        December 3, 2025 at 11:17 am

        The frustrating thing about Linda’s excellent list is that the information is very available and known but is never mentioned. Even Democrats rarely comment on his terrible record. Ask a Reagan lover what they like about him, and the usual response is that “he made us feel good about oueselves again”, whatever that means. No specifics are ever mentioned.

        • 45 utaustinliberal
          December 3, 2025 at 11:40 am

          You nailed it Bill. When people ask me why I support President Obama; it isn’t just because he makes me feel good about myself, it’s also because as a college student, he increased pell grants which help me obtain an education, he passed a comprehensive healthcare law that’s already on its way to becoming a form of single payer, he’s doing a lot for green jobs, green technology, energy reform, higher fuel and mileage standards for cars, under him the U.S. has reduced its dependence on foreign oil and have actually increased domestic oil production. Under him, the private sector has added over 3 million jobs, the economy is growing, the stock market is at 12000, he’s reformed student loans, he’s reformed mortgage loans, the U.S. is once again a shining beacon of hope and possibilities, he delivered justice to OBL, under him Al Qaida is running helter skelter, DADT has been repealed, the war in Iraq is over, Afghanistan is winding down, Gaddafi is gone, we have a comprehensive hate crimes law, $50M has been pledged towards combating AIDS and ramping up the U.S AIDS policy, Native American reservations were included in the doling out of the recovery act funds. I could go on and on and on.

          We like President Obama because he gets things done. His accomplishments are nothing to sneeze at.

    • 47 Pamela
      December 3, 2025 at 12:27 pm

      I lived outside the US during the entire RR terms. Did not vote for him, never saw him as anything other than a B list actor. IMO he had no business being in the WH, and find it unfathomable that people choose to sanctify his blatant reverse Robin Hood tactics, which have caused so much of the current situation to exist. Enough said. It can be very interesting and educational to see the workings of this country from outside its borders.

      I was just in Australia last month, people there see PBO for the excellent leader he is, intelligent and compassionate, LEADER not simply another politician who has been handed a contract to ruin American lives.

      Thank you everyone here, and Chipsticks, for always providing current and interesting views, tho I haven’t much time to check in!

    • 48 lmrj
      December 3, 2025 at 12:42 pm

      I have to leave for the day and cannot do so myself, but may be a good idea for you Linda or someone else in TODville to tweet some or all of that list one by one to @AlexWitt @msnbc with the header Reagan’s Legacy. (Example: #ReagansLegacy 1) Increased the National Debt by 189% ($998 billion to $2.6 trillion) no one else comes close. @AlexWitt @msnbc ).

      I tried to look up a Twitter handle for Mr. 1% Zuckerman, but couldn’t find one. Here’s his info from Wikipedia though: “Mortimer Benjamin “Mort” Zuckerman (born June 4, 2025)[2] is a Canadian-born American business magnate with interests primarily in magazines, publishing, and real estate. He is now a naturalized citizen of the United States.
      In 2008, Zuckerman was the 147th wealthiest American[3] and, in 2007, the 188th[4] per Forbes. In 2006, he was ranked 382nd.[5] The increase was related to the sale in 2007 of 5 Times Square and 280 Park Avenue in New York, which together realized US$2.5 billion for his company, Boston Properties, Inc.[6]
      He has been the publisher and owner of the New York Daily News since 1993 and, as of 2007, is the current editor-in-chief of U.S. News & World Report. He co-founded Boston Properties, Inc., in 1970 and serves as the chairman of the board and director.” Enough said.

      Have a good day everyone!

    • 49 Sabreen60 (@QueenMerytAmon)
      December 3, 2025 at 12:46 pm

      Linda I tweeted a few of these to Alex. The problem is these pundnits never respond to complaints. They even go so far as Keith Olbermann who just announced on Twitter that he will no longer respond to ANY tweets. He got a tweet from a big fan of his who called him out on something - hurt his feelings I guess. Anyway he said no more tweets until further notice.

      • 50 lmrj
        December 3, 2025 at 1:46 pm

        Sabreen, even if the pundits don’t respond or acknowledge, the facts will still be out there in the Twitterverse and be picked up by other folks. It’s more about informing people and not letting MSM lies remain unanswered. Thanks for tweeting. I’m on the run again!

      • 51 TrumpDog
        December 3, 2025 at 1:54 pm

        I used to really like and respect Olbermann. That is until I saw him throw a huge tantrum at DKos awhile ago. My respect started to diminish from there.
        I think he has really thin skin and -while quick to give criticism - is reluctant to receive it.

      • 52 Linda
        December 3, 2025 at 2:10 pm

        I don’t do the twitter thing…but if they don’t respond…maybe that fact should also be tweeted around to embarrass them further.

    • 53 creolechild
      December 3, 2025 at 6:20 pm

      Thank you for posting this, Linda, because as I was reading the list and came to #5 “Turned the US from the major exporter of manufactured goods in the world to major importer of manufactured goods,” it occurred to me that many people may not be aware that NAFTA originated with Reagan. It was later expanded under George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, but it was Reagan’s baby…~

      November 13, 2025 - While officially declaring his candidacy for President, Ronald Reagan proposes a “North American Agreement” which will produce “a North American continent in which the goods and people of the three countries will cross boundaries more freely.”

      January 1981 - President Ronald Reagan proposes a North American common market.

      October 9, 2025 - The US Congress adopts the Trade and Tariff Act, an omnibus trade act that notably extends the powers of the president to concede trade benefits and enter into bilateral free trade agreements. The Act would be passed on October 30, 1984.

      May 1986 - Simon Reisman, Chief negotiator for Canada, and Peter Murphy, the American negotiator, start negotiations.

      October 3, 2025 - Conclusion of the Canada-US Free Trade Agreement (FTA) in Washington.

      January 2, 2026 - Prime Minister Mulroney and President Reagan sign the FTA.

      January 1, 2026 - The FTA takes effect.

      ~snip~

      http://www.fina-nafi.org/eng/integ/chronologie.asp?langue=eng&menu=integ

  6. 54 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 10:59 am

    My sister said, that Biden made a big speech in Iraq, after the wonderful speech, Maliki and the Iraqi Parliament thanked the US and pledged to always be friends with the US.

    You did not hear anything from our news about this! Crickets!

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  8. 60 desertflower
    December 3, 2025 at 11:01 am

    How’s this for “family values?” They should ALL be challenged on this corrupt line of “thinking”.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-ows-poverty

  9. December 3, 2025 at 11:02 am

    All the political pundits keep saying President Obama is afraid to run against Romney. I don’t think so. I think that is who the Obama Administration do want to run against. The common sense Independents will go for POTUS. Because if you can visualize President Obama and Romney side by side on stage in a debate to lead this country. Just like the McCain’s visual. President Obama will win.

    Not just on policy, but on substance and projection, visualization of where the country will go forward. Then think about the visual of their looks side by side (ew don’t make me look LOL) Romney the Ken doll, vs President Obama tall, smart and debonair. Romney’s rambling speech pattern vs President Obama’s articulate, firm and smooth convincing speech pattern. Both have great hair LOL

    Oh and just think of both of them giving their speeches accepting their nominations at their parties conventions. Last time President Obama sealed the deal with the American people with that speech. Awesome. I hate to put it all on the visual. But that is what American’s have come to look at more and more. Not substance but the visual.

    Now if Newt was the Republican nominee, President Obama will win it in a walk. Think of that visual LOL

    They keep wanting to compare President Obama to Regan or Clinton. Thank God he isn’t like either of them. If anyone read President Obama’s books, where he poured his heart and soul into them. They would know who our President is and all of his beliefs. All these years and all of his beliefs he wrote about is still the same. So they need to give up the ghost of Regan.

    • 62 vero804
      December 3, 2025 at 11:31 am

      It’s not about a fear, it’s about who they are gearing up to defeat. Just because they take this seriously and are aggressive doesn’t mean they fear him in the least bit. Nothing about the administration and the campaign’s tactics have made me think they fear Romney. That’s a Romney talking point that the media has adopted.

      • 63 Brezzydee
        December 3, 2025 at 11:44 am

        Oh I know it’s just a pundit theme, to try to rope people into fear. This was my interpretation of the difference and visuals the american people will see and vote on. Oh no I’m not scared and I don’t think President Obama is. But the TV personalities and Romney camp want people to be.

    • 64 hopefruit2
      December 3, 2025 at 11:55 am

      It’s interesting how the dishonest filthy media is so damned determined to paint our president as a cowardly weak individual when it’s their Republican political cronies who are the biggest cowards. All the so-called stars like Christie, Jeb Bush, Mitch Daniels, Thune, Barbour, Bloomberg, Trump etc, are not running because they are AFRAID they will get their clocks cleaned by PBO and suffer a historic humiliation. So the 2nd tier GOPers are now scrambling and imploding, which is why they need the media’s assistance, OWS, PL third party spoilers like Moore, Nader, etc, to promote them spin their bullshyte.

      Jon Huntsman is supposedly a “good” candidate, according to the MSM, and some “progressives” So why does he need to resort to using his daughters as sex objects just to attract attention and garner votes that he otherwise couldn’t do on his own merit and policies? Wasn’t that the same type of thinking that drove John McCain to select Palin as his VP - oh, that’s right, John McCain’s campaign is also advising Huntsman - of course they view women as sex objects and NOTHING else.

      The bottom line is that none of the GOP candidates (or anyone else for that matter) can currently defeat PBO without some serious underhanded or illegal rigging of the election. The media knows this, the PL knows this and the GOP knows this.

      • 65 Sabreen60 (@QueenMerytAmon)
        December 3, 2025 at 12:53 pm

        Huntsman supports Ryan’s Kill Medicare Plan. Also, his chemical business is dirty. If he should get anywhere near the top, plenty of stuff will come out about Huntsman. In addition, he’s a low-life. How do you work for the President of the United States then turn around a stab him in the back, because you want his job?

      • 67 derbingle
        December 3, 2025 at 1:49 pm

        Right on. If the people you mentioned really thought Obama was vulnerable then every last one of them would be in this race. They not only bailed they bailed early and none of them is making a sound about changing their minds. I’m thinking this means their internal polling is seeing something the media refuses to report. 2012 may be an Obama tidal wave.

        • 68 luci1119
          December 3, 2025 at 2:47 pm

          Listen, a lot of the Gop’ers, and most of the MSM, dislike PBO not only because of their RACISM, but PBO Is squeaky clean. He talks the talk, and then he walks the walk. He’s great at what he does. He has played by the rules, education, stayed out of trouble, good looking, married, with an attractive wife, and good looking Children. He’s a Christian who believes In doing Christ like things. They can’t or don’t measure up, so what do they do, they hate on him. Sad, Sad, Sad, :-( :-(

      • 69 Chi
        December 3, 2025 at 6:50 pm

        Hopefruit2, they are only ‘stars’ until they actually sign on to run…

        Then they show their weak, sorry butts…

    • 70 Pamela
      December 3, 2025 at 12:41 pm

      Willard Romney: Grecian formula 1, flim-flam man. No one in their right mind could fear such a foof. For cryin’ out loud… I have no idea how anyone can take him seriously, except himself! (his hair is ridiculous, btw, must spend a fortune every day to look like that)

  10. 71 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:02 am

    I had to go to stars and stripes to find out what biden is doing in Turkey—

    http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/E/EU_TURKEY_BIDEN?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-03-09-21-08

    • 72 utaustinliberal
      December 3, 2025 at 11:25 am

      Thanks for this news Jovie. Just tweeted it so that more people know how hard VP Biden works for the American people.

      • 73 hopefruit2
        December 3, 2025 at 11:59 am

        Thanks Jovie and UT. No wonder the MSM wants him replaced. They are seriously threatened by this Obama-Biden team. It’s a FORMIDABLE combination, one of the best President-VP teams we’ve had in recent history. The MSM and GOP hate everything that is positive about the Obama administration even if it benefits the country.

  11. 74 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:05 am

    And how much is CNN paying candy Crowley.

  12. 76 desertflower
    December 3, 2025 at 11:09 am

    THIS IS A MUST READ :) http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/12/201112293613576282.html

    Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney - the perfect dynamic duo for our times, if not the end times.

    A Batman and Robin for the one per cent. Defenders of truth, justice, and a Gulag Achipelago filled with child janitors and the fandango of the foreclosed.

    If you’re rooting for President Obama, or just plain enjoy the guilty pleasure of watching a Real Housewives of the Neo-Confederacy, your dream contest has arrived. Even before the news cameras and nation’s attention trek north to the frostbitten fields of Iowa, these two should provide constant amusement as they do battle over who’s had the most swift conversion to the principles of the Tea Party.

    While they may be very different, they’re also one in the same. Romney’s a patrician’s patrician, a guy who naturally grows khakis as a sort of protective exoskeleton and makes John Kerry seem like Jack Hanna. Gingrich grew up in more humble circumstances, a “historian” whose second wife (I think, allow me to consult my calculator) told Esquire a year ago that her former husband “always wanted to be somebody” and didn’t feel a need to privately live up to the principles he espoused publicly (I smell sitcom!).

  13. 81 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:10 am

    Seiu will be having occupy congress and K street, December 5th -9.
    This faction of OWS is very productive and look at their webpage-

    http://www.seiu.org/

  14. 83 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 11:13 am

    Presidential Scholar

  15. 97 ladyjazzfromtrinidad
    December 3, 2025 at 11:14 am

    I realised today that the MSM of America, which has been engineered for years by the Grand Old Party, has never had conscience whatsoever,as they continue to use whatever monied means they have to get their messages through. What WE do daily,as thinking individuals, is work ourselves up over their inept media sheeple, aggressively trying to ‘defeat the messenger’. This is a sort of slavery type of approach, and reminds me of what the oppressed slaves had to do, and go through to overcome their bondage. I guess too, that this is why it is soooo doubly difficult for the Prez to get the information out and the attention and appreciation he so deserves, by the public, for all he has achieved thus far.
    So people, the bottom line is … contiue to pushback and give ‘em hell, on email,twitter, phone calls etc. Forward ever, Backward never!

  16. 98 utaustinliberal
    December 3, 2025 at 11:15 am

    It’s a shame when PBO goes to Asia and brings back a 130K jobs and media blackout. It’s a shame that VP Biden is in Iraq and Turkey doing important work and media blackout. Yet for Cain’s scandal; there’s full blown media coverage. #MediaFail

    • 99 desertflower
      December 3, 2025 at 11:19 am

      Which is why so many people like things like Jersey Shore,Biggest Loser, DWTS,…no brainpower needed. Junkies to ignorance porn.

    • 100 lmrj
      December 3, 2025 at 12:54 pm

      Which is why the MSM HATES when PBO goes travels to talk to the American people himself and calls it taxpayer-funded campaigning instead of doing the job we elected him to do.

    • 101 anniebella
      December 3, 2025 at 6:55 pm

      utaustinliberal, I am right with you on this one. Msnbc, CNN, or shall I say TeaNN carry the Cain mess like it was something important. It wasn’t just like Cain isn’t. He was never nothing but a joke.

  17. 102 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:16 am

    The Obama administration is planning for a $523.42 billion base defense budget in 2013, with an additional $82.53 billion for contingency operations, a combined one-year reduction of about $47 billion in the base budget and an assumption of a $35 billion drop in operating costs in Iraq and Afghanistan from what was previously planned.

    The budget caps agreed to by Pentagon officials and the White House’s Office of Management and Budget are being used to write the detailed 2013 budget plan that will be submitted to Congress early next year for the fiscal year that begins next Oct. 1.

    http://www.stripes.com/

  18. 103 MTmarilyn
    December 3, 2025 at 11:17 am

    Good morning Chips and TODville. This will be quick. Getting ready to go to our big football game here. In the FCS we have football playoffs. The UM Griz play Central Arkansas. It is 10 degrees right now. Should be up to 20 by game time. I’ve got my long johns on.

    I wanted to report about the Tester Fundraiser I went to last night. They were expecting 80 people, it was in a private home. 160 people showed up. It was wonderful. Tester talked about how important it was not only for MT but for the country. Talked about Karl Rove’s campaign, of which we are already seeing ads against Tester. He talked about all he has done for MT, and he has done alot, especially for the veterans that live out in the rural areas. With so many people I only got a chance to shake his hand. He talked about all the Dems running for Senate and how close and hard it was going to be. They have the money but we have the ground work. That’s where we fit in. All of us in all our states must work locally. Thats all for now. Off to my football game.

    • 104 desertflower
      December 3, 2025 at 11:29 am

      Thank you for letting us know, Marilyn:) sounds like you had a productive evening….did he mention that last vote about the payroll tax?
      Sorry it’s so cold there! Ouch! I’m freezing in AZ…50……got the down jacket out and everything:)

  19. 105 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:18 am

    WASHINGTON – Last year, the Defense Department and the U.S. Geological Survey mapped out what the Pentagon says is “at least $1 trillion in mineral resources, fossil fuels, and rare earth elements within Afghanistan.”
    In a move announced this week, DOD’s Task Force for Business and Stability Operations said it would work with USGS to teach Afghans how to pinpoint the location of the riches and market them to investors.
    “This will become the backbone of the Afghan economy,” said Jalil Jumriany, an advisor to Afghanistan’s minister of mines, in an interview last year with the New York Times.

    http://www.stripes.com/blogs/stripes-central/stripes-central-1.8040/pentagon-will-teach-high-tech-minerals-prospecting-to-afghans-1.162220

  20. 107 Dave
    December 3, 2025 at 11:27 am

    I know you are all very excited like me to hear Cain’s BIG announcment today! There’s nothing more thrilling than a big PREPARED statement by an INVETARATE, NARCISSISTIC PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. I can only imagine we’ll hear all about how he’s been attacked and it’s conspiracy becuase he’s a BUISINESS MAN and and….it’s terrible. And not his fault at all. Poor thing.

  21. 109 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:32 am

    Apparently, kraft(owner of the new England patriots) is going to make an announcement next week.
    He will be building a 1 billion dollar casino across from the stadium.
    This will create 15k jobs and 8k permanent jobs.
    Nice!

    • 110 desertflower
      December 3, 2025 at 11:34 am

      Dandy. I still don’t like him…but for totally different reasons. Had to do with screwing with bringing the Patriots to Connecticut way back when.

      • 111 Jovie
        December 3, 2025 at 11:39 am

        I know, but he is a nice guy and donated to the President in 08.
        In fact, some stimulus money was going to the stadium- a bridge was going to be built there, until, for some reason deval Patrick canceled it!

        • 112 AJ
          December 3, 2025 at 12:48 pm

          Jovie…we have something in common! A shared admiration for the Kraft family. Hope it works out, but I fear the Foxborough locals will be up in arms over the traffic, congestion, etc, such a resort destination will cause. Can they be “convinced” to see things otherwise? Should be interesting. Personally speaking, I always get sick at casinos…food poisening, or cold viruses, or whatever, so I shan’t be running to Wynn’s Foxborough resort any time soon. ;) Still, I wish him luck!

  22. 113 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    December 3, 2025 at 11:33 am

    I LOVE MY PRESIDENT…THE GOP IS NOTHING BUT A GATHERING OF SELFISH FOOLS!

  23. 114 What is Working
    December 3, 2025 at 11:48 am

    Good Morning TOD family

    So nice to have a little time to read comments and make a few of my own. Life has been TOO busy lately.

    The video of the little boy is just too cute, I am impressed he could remember so many phrases.

    Here’s a group of slighlty older “bright kids” from MIT

    MIT Debuts a House Built for $1,000
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/12/mit-debuts-house-built-for-1000.html

  24. 116 What is Working
    December 3, 2025 at 11:49 am

    Millions of Seniors Saving Money on Prescription Drugs, Thanks to the Affordable Care Act
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/12/millions-of-seniors-saving-money-on.html

  25. 117 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:51 am

    Senator Snowe made a statement Friday saying- no greater duty than balanced budget amendment.
    Really?
    Me thinks, the good people of Maine have no greater duty than to get rid of her!!!

    • 118 meta
      December 3, 2025 at 12:12 pm

      GAH, these people are so off the mark insane.

    • 119 Linda
      December 3, 2025 at 12:41 pm

      Maine gets back at least $1.41 back on every dollar paid to the Federal Government. I guess her State no longer needs that money.

      Here is what all the States look like getting Federal Money. I am not sure how old this is though.

      http://visualeconomics.creditloan.com/united-states-federal-tax-dollars/

    • 120 theo67
      December 3, 2025 at 3:57 pm

      Whenever these GOP talk about balanced budget, we need to ask them what the consequences of a balanced budget will be to the millions of Americans who will be deprived of essential services, and the consequences of diminished capabilities of the US to respond to crisis and national security threats. They love to just shout out the term “balanced budget amendment”, but people don’t really understand what that means in real terms. Here are two responses from the White House on what a balanced budget amendment really means. Besides, the BBA failed in the House.

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/07/19/unbalanced-approach-deficit-reduction
      http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/112/saphjr2r_20111115.pdf

    • 121 anniebella
      December 3, 2025 at 7:03 pm

      Sen. Snowe use to be one of the GOP with some sense, but she has become afraid of the Tea Party, so now she has become one of those right wing nuts.

  26. 122 What is Working
    December 3, 2025 at 11:54 am

    Check out the big grin on this Iowa volunteer’s face. She was probably thrilled to get a picture with the President.

    “Iowa Stands Behind the President”
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/12/iowa-stands-behind-president.html

  27. 123 hgerhard
    December 3, 2025 at 11:54 am

    Good Morning TOD Family - I just listened to the President’s Weekly Address reiterating his urgent message to pass the American Jobs Act. Today’s address once again deals with the extension of the payroll tax cut for working Americans. For more than two months now he has made the case for this important legislation to strengthen the economy. Only one part of it, benefitting veterans, was approved by Congress while all the other provisions are being blocked by Republican obstruction. What strikes me and makes me sad is to hear the President asking people again and again to contact their Congressional representatives and let them know why this legislation is necessary and that they will hold their elected officials accountable. Maybe people think that talking to their representatives is useless and only voting them out of office will bring about needed change. The OWS crowd may go a step further and dream incoherent dreams of revolution and a new age. But where are the millions of people who need a job, who desperately want to see the future brighten for their chilldren? I totally agree with the assessment of the media as biased and share the view of their complicity with the obstructionist opposition, but people are not helpless victims of the media circus. I know at TOD I am preaching to the choir, but I wish we would all send an email or a tweet to everyone we know and ask them to bombard Congress with messages in support of the President’s Jobs Act. It should be easy to send a million messages by phone, fax, email, or Twitter. Let’s give our wonderful President some help. He is fighting so hard and has done so much for all Americans in the face of so much undeserved criticism. He inspires me every day to set aside the toxic mixture of lies, greed and evil and look for new ways to take his message to as many people as I can reach.

    • 124 theo67
      December 3, 2025 at 4:00 pm

      I totally agree with you. Those 315,000 people who have dropped out of the job market, that the media has been braying about to deflate any optimism over the improved jobs numbers, should be calling their Congress people day and night.

  28. 125 forus50
    December 3, 2025 at 11:57 am

    Thanks for posting this WIW. And nice to see that it was written by the Associated Press. I decided to Google it to see how many local newpapers etc had picked it up and it was in a bunch of local papers and websites!!

  29. 126 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 11:57 am

    You know, I just want to say that the military budget can definitely be cut.
    But when Barney frank goes on national tv and says nothing good can cone from the use of the military, is say BS.
    Tell that to the people of Benghazi, or Sendai japan after the earthquake, or Haiti after their earthquake or during national disasters the national guard gets called to help citizens.

    Thus, Barney frank is full of shit and he needs to be told to stop demagogue the military.

    That is all!

  30. 127 Roberta in MN
    December 3, 2025 at 12:01 pm

    OT - Good Morning TODers. I have a request to pass on an article for the Three Graces Pendants for Women ‘s Shelters. If you have or know any shelters that need to raise money please contact or go on the site for ww.midamericajewelrynews.com It’s an article on the idea and inception this pendant to help women’s shelters and it can be done in any state. I twittered it last night, but I can’t retweet. his is all new to me house to pass this information on, so any help I can get from you well informed TOD family willl be appreciated. [email protected]. BertinMn, Twitter.

    Thank you all ahead of time.

  31. 128 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 12:01 pm

    New smog rules from the EPA enacted yesterday-

    http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/931381dfcd9a5c308525779700424ccd/30c5402413cbae038525795a004f5979!OpenDocument

    Shhhh, it’s a secret!

  32. 130 hopefruit2
    December 3, 2025 at 12:04 pm

    Why is CNN so breathless over Cain’s “announcement?” Is he going to announce that he killed Bin Laden - again?

    • 131 Jovie
      December 3, 2025 at 12:09 pm

      Don’t know, but it seems like he is getting ready to announce that he really knows what happened in Roswell new Mexico, in 1947.
      Maybe he is friends with agent Mulder?

    • 132 anniebella
      December 3, 2025 at 7:07 pm

      hopefruit2, maybe Cain is going to give them a copy of that little black book of his. You know the one with all the ladies addresses in there.

  33. 133 Fred
    December 3, 2025 at 12:12 pm

    good morning TOD family.

  34. 138 hopefruit2
    December 3, 2025 at 12:17 pm

    Our President is going to Kansas on Tuesday to give a speech. Here’s more.

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-is-president-obama-going-to.html

    • 139 Linda
      December 3, 2025 at 12:30 pm

      I love this part of it.

      The object of government is the welfare of the people. The material progress and prosperity of a nation are desirable chiefly so long as they lead to the moral and material welfare of all good citizens.

      • 140 utaustinliberal
        December 3, 2025 at 1:22 pm

        Me too. President Obama is a political juggernaut unlike any other. Tying his defining speech to an equally defining moment in history by Teddy Roosevelt just blows my mind. He truly is a champion for the middleclass. Everyday I pinch myself in glee and wonder how we got so lucky!

    • 142 PoliticalJunkessa
      December 3, 2025 at 12:44 pm

      Thanks a million for that spectacular link, hopefruit.

      Oh my, I just read the post and the text of Roosevelt’s speech. Epic. I got chills. It makes plain just how history repeats itself and that we have to continually be vigilant against greed, selfishness, and corruption. It’s time for another major housecleaning.

      This President is so far ahead of the pack in vision and wisdom that it’s mind-blowing. He *gets it* at a level that most people simply can’t. I cannot WAIT until he speaks there on Tuesday. We are tremendously fortunate to be witnessing this Presidency.

      Wonder if this location is anywhere near his mother’s family’s homeland.

      • 143 Obama Grandmama
        December 3, 2025 at 2:58 pm

        Can’t use the words “I get it!” anymore as that has just become a GOP talking point recommended by Luntz to be said to OWSers.

        • 144 theo67
          December 3, 2025 at 4:19 pm

          Keep using it. The GOP don’t “get” anything. They can’t lay claim to the English language for their evil purposes. Luntz is a putz.

    • 145 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 12:57 pm

      I love that his mere presence will put new focus on the FDR speech - then he gets to give his own. I do worry about the crowd though in ruby red Kansas.

      • 146 saintroscoe
        December 3, 2025 at 1:06 pm

        *Teddy Roosevelt

        • 147 forus50
          December 3, 2025 at 1:27 pm

          Teddy being another Republican that Obama chooses to profile in a red state. The GOP could easily win an election in 2012 (given the tough economy for any incubment president) with a Teddy Roosevelt type candidate if their entire electorate wasn’t incredibly politically dumb.

          • 148 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
            December 3, 2025 at 10:01 pm

            Not they couldn’t forus. :roll: Not with PBO running on the Democratic ticket. I don’t care who they could put against him. In a open election on both sides sure. PBO is just too damn strong in character and commitment to be defeated by anyone. PERIOD!!

        • 149 Chi
          December 3, 2025 at 8:06 pm

          He’ll be just fine SR…

          Kansas is the land of his grand parents…

          He knows the people of Kansas well…they raised him…

      • 150 derbingle
        December 3, 2025 at 2:18 pm

        If his last bus tour into red districts is any indication we might be looking at the whole town turning out with rock star media coverage. He lost Ashville in 2008 80-20 to McCain yet you would have thought Elvis was appearing in concert the way they reacted toward him.

        I just like the fact he continues to show he’s everyone’s President and he’s tough enough to take it no matter where the venue.

        • 151 dotster3
          December 3, 2025 at 3:40 pm

          Obama won Asheville—Duncombe Co.—easily—-56% to 43% for McCain. I thought that didn’t sound right—-Asheville is a Dem oasis there in western N.C.—-so I checked because I remember him winning Asheville, one of my fave spots in the country. Asheville added to the huge plurality in the I-85 corridor—-Duke, U. of N.C.etc.—-to help him win the state. Will need the same huge AA and young voter turn out again next year.

    • 152 24Sass
      December 3, 2025 at 5:49 pm

      Thanks for the link, this is one speech I won’t want to miss.

  35. 153 meta
    December 3, 2025 at 12:21 pm

    Field Organizer training today in Oakland, CA:

    Follow @geoffbermanGeoff Berman@geoffberman
    Geoff Berman
    ditto in Oakland (see pic): “@sara_ela: There are a bazillion people at this #FOacademy @OFA_CA " http://t.co/dFjqPZXr

    photo/1

    • 154 theo67
      December 3, 2025 at 4:21 pm

      Wonderful photo. OWS goes to Oakland and succeeds in engaging the police in many days of violence, etc. OFA goes to Oakland and gathers people to actually learn and do something that will ultimately retain control of the government in sane hands, and help millions more people. I know which group I’m supporting.

  36. 155 socasweet
    December 3, 2025 at 12:25 pm

    Hi All,

    Would someone who understands the electoral system please explain to me why is there a Democratic caucus in Iowa, also why are people collecting signatures to put Pres Obama name on some states’ ballot. Thank You

    • 156 forus50
      December 3, 2025 at 12:44 pm

      Because at the Democratic convention, each state must have delegates to nominate their candidate. A formality for sure in 2012 for the Dems but the delegates are chosen after the caucuses and primaries in each state. Also, these events in each state help to set up the organizers and volunteers for the general election.

    • December 3, 2025 at 12:46 pm

      Some states require that anyone on their ballot must get there via the petition. As for caucuses in Iowa or any caucus state, more goes on in caucuses than voting for who the people want to represent the party as their nominee, such as electing delegates for the next level of caucuses that will lead ultimately toward becoming delegates for the National Convention. Also fund-raising occurs as well as some basic organizing for the party itself. Even though we are all confident that President Obama will get our nomination, we still have to go through the process of nominating him and that means selecting delegates.

    • 158 meta
      December 3, 2025 at 12:47 pm

      In our system, the sitting President still has to be nominated and put forward as our candidate once again and people have the right to challenge him. That won’t be the case for PBO so this is pro forma to establish the party structure for the convention in August.

  37. 159 hopefruit2
    December 3, 2025 at 12:27 pm

    Perhaps Cain is going to announce that he’s running as an “Independent” not on the Repub ticket.

    • 160 Dave
      December 3, 2025 at 12:36 pm

      YEAH! Let’s have Gary “Who?” Johnson as the libertarian, Buddy Your Buddy Romer as the Somethin’ candidate, Trump as the Imbecile Party candidate…..plus Herman…..Mmm…Nader as the Harold Stassen candidate….. Come one come all!!! And the President will still win BY A MAJORITY!

      • 161 Bill
        December 3, 2025 at 12:50 pm

        Romer can also run as the MSNBC candidate.

      • 162 Linda
        December 3, 2025 at 1:18 pm

        Buddy Roemer to seek third-party Americans Elect nomination for president

        http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/12/buddy_roemer_to_seek_third-par.html

        odd since this group is funded by a former billionaire sponsor of toxic NGO’s and right hand man of Michael Milken

        http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/peter-ackerman-billionaire-sponsor-of-toxic-ngos/

  38. 163 Jovie
    December 3, 2025 at 12:32 pm

    Big voter registration drive today from ofa, 20k groups nationwide.
    We should do this every month?

  39. 164 meta
    December 3, 2025 at 12:33 pm

    Smartypants talks about the importance and significance of POTUS’ speech next week in Kansas

    http://bit.ly/tWKelM

    Can’t wait!!

  40. 167 saintroscoe
    December 3, 2025 at 12:51 pm

    Damn Herman Cain is using Brooks and Dunn’s “Only in America” at his announcement rally! Bastard!!!!!!!1!!!!

  41. 174 Fred
    December 3, 2025 at 1:08 pm

    I have the funny feeling that he will stay in the race;this man’s ego is bigger than Texas.At least he will stay for a little while to make as dough as he possibly can

    • 175 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 1:11 pm

      Cain is the type of guy who could plan on quitting, be in the middle of his speech on stage and say “F It! I’m staying in and give the Nixon salute”.

      • 176 Fred
        December 3, 2025 at 1:13 pm

        I can see that Saint

        at the end of the day;we’ve got to stay the course and keep focus and keep working and get ready for whomever the teaKLAN nominates

    • 177 COS
      December 3, 2025 at 1:13 pm

      Fred, I am in total agreement with you. As usual, the media is making up stuff. Cain has a huge ego and I do not believe that he will come out and say that he is quitting. He also thrives off drama.

      • 178 meta
        December 3, 2025 at 1:20 pm

        His behavior screams DRAMA QUEEN.

        • 179 luci1119
          December 3, 2025 at 3:11 pm

          Herman Cain, should be ASHAME of himself. He’s a turn off. He thinks’s he’s God’s gift to women, IMO. I have a problem liking people who are stuck on themselves, as If no one else matters. Herman Cain to me means, a LOOSE Pecker, that flips here, and then flops there :-( :roll: Shame on you Herman :-(

  42. 180 forus50
    December 3, 2025 at 1:14 pm

    Either way he will endear himself to the GOP and the MSM. If he gets out it just means he will be riding in the side money clown car with Trump and Palin.

  43. 182 COS
    December 3, 2025 at 1:16 pm

    A little OT, I turned the tv on early this morning and I saw Mittens answering questions from the press, and he and supporters were getting ready to knock on doors and canvass in his state of NH. I think Mittens realize that he has to come out of the “mitness” protection program. :)

  44. 184 ML
    December 3, 2025 at 1:20 pm

    I tried scanning the comments; I don’t think this has been posted anywhere but it’s really interesting and I hope there will be video of this speech:

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-is-president-obama-going-to.html (Why is President Obama going to Osawatomie, Kansas?)

    Also, I don’t know if this got mentioned but here’s a really great article from Forbes Online:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/12/02/the-bomb-buried-in-obamacare-explodes-today-halleluja/

  45. 185 Fred
    December 3, 2025 at 1:20 pm

    oh ffs King’s sister :roll:

  46. 190 anotherslyfox
    December 3, 2025 at 1:24 pm

    Family Guy’s reference to Sperman Herman Cain.

  47. 192 socasweet
    December 3, 2025 at 1:27 pm

    Thank You very much, forus50, Tien Le and meta. Your system is more involved than ours but very interesting. We follow the British System. I am really looking forward to next year.

  48. 193 Fred
    December 3, 2025 at 1:31 pm

    according to CBS:Herm is IN then again they might be wrong . . .

  49. 194 LOL
    December 3, 2025 at 1:32 pm

    Looky what I found on the interwebz

    “Precisely because Gingrich is right about the moral crisis the country is facing — millions of lives and entire communities destroyed by drugs, alcohol, gangs, and violence — there is a moral imperative for him to fill the leadership vacuum and address the growing devastation.”

    - Arianna Huffington (1995), “Why Newt Must Run”

    Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Protected/Articles/000/000/007/009pomwg.asp The linky is Weekly Standard so proceed at your own risk (of your stomach)

  50. 196 utaustinliberal
    December 3, 2025 at 1:38 pm

    The Cain announcement is killing me with laughter. This moron boasts about being woefully unprepared for running for POTUS and the illiterati cheer him on. LMAO. #CainWreck

  51. 199 jacquelineoboomer
    December 3, 2025 at 1:39 pm

    So far, Herb is allowing his supporters to think he’s staying in …

    “I’m in the final four” (he claims) …

    Now, if he doesn’t stay in, he’ll have made fools out of his supporters one more time …

  52. 202 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 1:41 pm

    “That spin hurts”

    Voice of a leader right there.

  53. 203 LOL
    December 3, 2025 at 1:42 pm

    He is suspending his campaigning

  54. 204 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 1:43 pm

    “I am suspending my Presidential campaign but because of the continued distraction, the continued hurt caused on me and my family.”

    Exit stage far right.

  55. 211 anotherslyfox
    December 3, 2025 at 1:44 pm

    We need another one of these Letterman!!!

  56. 213 forus50
    December 3, 2025 at 1:46 pm

    ok a little poll: who is more arrogant, delusional and dumb? Trump, Palin or Herman Cain?

    • 214 Fred
      December 3, 2025 at 1:48 pm

      is there option c as in ALL 3 of them

    • 217 COS
      December 3, 2025 at 1:53 pm

      All of the above. (All 3 are cut from the same cloth)

    • 218 PoliticalJunkessa
      December 3, 2025 at 2:34 pm

      It’s a three-way tie on those characteristics — you can add narcissistic in there as well.

      However, there is no candidate I have despised more than Sarah Palin. In addition to being all of the above, she also had a mean, sadistic, violent streak as well. Add the religious apocalyptic rhetoric to her bag, and she was extremely odious. I blame her for fanning into flame the violence of the tea party in 2009 and 2010 with her “Don’t retreat, reload” and “Death panels.” John McCain should be ashamed for unleashing her evil on the American populace. :evil:

    • 219 Bill
      December 3, 2025 at 3:03 pm

      In my opinjion the half term governor is the most arrogant,delusional, and dumb politician in modern history. Trump and Cain were educated at well respected colleges, their children graduated from high school and college, they both have had successes outside of politics, and both can have a sense of humor and are not completely full of anger, and the skank governor can say none of these things. She has no education, no curiosity, no beliefs or values, has a trashy family, quit her job as governor, shows no interest in anyone but herself, always looks as though she needs a bath, and hopefully we shall never see another like her.

  57. 220 LOL
    December 3, 2025 at 1:46 pm

    Sure sounds like Sarah- The Cain Solutions.com

  58. 222 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 1:48 pm

    Plan B. Thecainsolutions.com

    “This webpage is not available”

  59. 227 jacquelineoboomer
    December 3, 2025 at 1:48 pm

    Herb found the campaign word “suspending” …

    Now, where have we heard that before? Oh, from some other loser.

  60. 228 nintendowii10
    December 3, 2025 at 1:50 pm

    And cue Fox and the hard right to blame Herman getting out of the race on “liberals/the Democrat machine”

  61. 229 anotherslyfox
    December 3, 2025 at 1:50 pm

    Ain’t nuthin but a pimp. This is his next role.

  62. 230 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 1:52 pm

    The current occupant of the White House went through more media hell than you ever did, you weak, duplicitous, pathetic, unfaithful, fraud.

  63. 232 criquet
    December 3, 2025 at 1:54 pm
    Follow @PnthrgrlgailPnthrgrlgail@Pnthrgrlgail
     
    Debt increase by presidents: Reagan 186%, Bush II 72% Bush 54% Clinton 41% Obama 23%. Source CBO #ConnectTheLeft

    We need to spread this EVERYWHERE.

  64. 233 utaustinliberal
    December 3, 2025 at 1:55 pm

    OMG. OMG. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Herman Cain just quoted from the Pokemon movie. Are you fucking kidding me? Then he blames the media for pointing that out. WTF? That was the craziest half hour of my life. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • 234 jacquelineoboomer
      December 3, 2025 at 1:56 pm

      Maybe the craziest half hour, so far. But don’t forget not all the other R candidates have “suspended” their campaigns, so there’s more crazy to come.

    • 235 24Sass
      December 3, 2025 at 6:11 pm

      The whole thing…the speech, riding up in the freakin bus, is he or ain’t he gonna quit….surreal.
      I say good riddance to him and his bullying ways.

  65. 236 hopefruit2
    December 3, 2025 at 1:55 pm

    President Obama must be bitterly disappointed and demoralized on the heels of this announcement! Herman Cain won’t endorse him for 2012. What a shocking revelation!

  66. 239 jacquelineoboomer
    December 3, 2025 at 1:55 pm

    Herb’s bringing up his (now mortified) grandmother and parents.

    Has no shame.

    Oh, and by the way, which other candidate really wants his so-called endorsement?

  67. 240 anotherslyfox
    December 3, 2025 at 1:55 pm

    Come on Herman, you gave comedians great material.

  68. 241 meta
    December 3, 2025 at 1:56 pm

    This liar is totally in love with himself. How sad that he even has a following. UGH.

  69. 244 Brittany
    December 3, 2025 at 1:56 pm

    Cain is another Palin, and attention wh*re.

  70. 245 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 1:57 pm

    Finalists announced for 2011 Lie of the Year

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/dec/02/2011-lie-year-finalists/

    I just e-mailed them that the LIE OF THE YEAR is that POLITIFACT actually tells the truth

  71. 246 criquet
    December 3, 2025 at 2:05 pm
    Follow @thinkprogressThinkProgress@thinkprogress
    ThinkProgress
    FACT: Obama's job-crushing economic policies have created 1.67 million private sector jobs in 2011 #icymi
  72. 247 hopefruit2
    December 3, 2025 at 2:06 pm

    Huntsman (Panderer-in-Chief) now hoping to pick up some of Cain’s supporters by saying this:

    Follow @stevebruskCNNSteve Brusk@stevebruskCNN
    Steve Brusk
    Huntsman on Cain: unique and valuable voice to the debate over how to reform our country's uncompetitive tax code & turn around the economy
    • 248 nintendowii10
      December 3, 2025 at 2:08 pm

      Now there goes all the talking points about Huntsman being a “rational/moderate Republican.” Huntsman obviously wants to get above 1% by endorsing the former frontrunner/flavor of the month, and it really shows the lack of judgment on Huntsman’s behalf.

    • 251 William Jackson
      December 3, 2025 at 4:27 pm

      A quote from joethemason. a HuffPo Poster regarding Herman Cain and today’s announcement:

      “His 9-9-9 Plan wasn’t going to work, and now we find out that his 69-69-69 Plan didn’t work. This guy ain’t good with numbers.”

  73. 252 PoliticalJunkessa
    December 3, 2025 at 2:12 pm

    I was hoping Uncle Herman would stay in the race longer, but since he’s not, I’m at least encouraged that most of his support will go to the Newster.

    GINGRICH/CAIN ’12 — make it happen, fellas!

    • 253 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 2:19 pm

      Regardless of who he endorses, Newt should get a nice bounce out of this at the polls. Cain was polling between 10-15%, so Newt could see a 6-10 point bump out of this.

  74. 255 forus50
    December 3, 2025 at 2:16 pm

    lol. GarryShandling
    I’m not clear. So, he’s not running? Or not quitting? Or not fighting? Just need to know which T-shirt to buy.
    6 minutes ago Favorite Undo Retweet

  75. 256 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 2:17 pm

    It’s telling that a website called TheCainSolutions.com does not have a single Cain solution on it. It is as awkward and silent as the pauses in his Milwaukee Journal Sentinel interview.

    • 257 jacquelineoboomer
      December 3, 2025 at 2:21 pm

      Yes, first he needs to check to see what President Obama’s solutions are (as they all do), so he can choose the opposite.

  76. 258 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 2:23 pm

    Herman Cain, immortal statesman:

    “I believe these words came from the Pokemon movie… but it says a lot about where I am…”

    • 259 PoliticalJunkessa
      December 3, 2025 at 2:28 pm

      I didn’t watch/listen. Please tell me he didn’t say that.

      His tax plan was cartoonish, so I guess he’s just staying true to form. :roll:

      • 260 forus50
        December 3, 2025 at 2:54 pm

        lol oh yeah he did. Previously he credited a “poet” for it. Yah know poet, Pokemon, they kinda sound the same so whichever works….

        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69700.html

        • 261 Obama Grandmama
          December 3, 2025 at 3:13 pm

          Rachel had a segment quite awhile ago revealing Pokeman movie being the source for his poet line and other movie lines he has used throughout his campaign.

  77. 262 jacquelineoboomer
    December 3, 2025 at 2:28 pm

    Oh, and what other “candidate” would wear sunglasses while making a speech to his loyalists? Is this Hollywood? Aren’t the voters supposed to be able to look you right in the eye?

    Well, guess Cain can go off to have a cigarette now with this former campaign manager. Or maybe it’s drinks for all back at the Cain residence. No doubt Gloria will be going shopping to get away from them all.

  78. 264 forus50
    December 3, 2025 at 2:29 pm

    The Iowa caucus is a month from now and the GOP Clown Car just had another Clown run away FROM the circus. So after the exit of Palin, Trump and Cain -
    The 7 Clowns left in the GOP National Circus Act 2012:
    Bachman – Scary Eyes clown
    Santorum – Psycho clown
    Gingrich – the clown who creeps out the little kids
    Huntsman – the apprentice still in clown training
    Romney – the clown with a hundred outfits
    Perry – the clown with the job of cleaning up after the elephants
    Paul – the circus retired him last year but forgot to tell him

  79. 269 hopefruit2
    December 3, 2025 at 2:30 pm

    Our President is not joking.

    HEADLINE: Obama warns Congress it could spend Christmas in D.C.

    // President Obama said today unless Congress is dreaming of a very Washington Christmas, it better pass an extension of the payroll tax holiday quickly. “I expect it is going to get done before Congress leaves,” Obama warned lawmakers. “Otherwise Congress might not be leaving, and we can all spend Christmas here together.” //

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/12/obama-congress-christmas-in-washington/1

    • 270 Jackie Grumbacher
      December 3, 2025 at 3:14 pm

      Oh please, Mr. President, be sure to be big fat lumps of coal in their stockings on Christmas Eve. And the Republicans get to sit at the kids table for dinner.

  80. 271 nintendowii10
    December 3, 2025 at 2:32 pm

    Dedicated to Herman Cain, thanks for the memories:

  81. 273 jacquelineoboomer
    December 3, 2025 at 2:34 pm

    BorowitzReport Andy Borowitz
    Ginger White: “Does This Mean We’re On Again?” #Cain

    • 275 PoliticalJunkessa
      December 3, 2025 at 2:52 pm

      Look at Gloria up there clapping and nodding. SMDH. Makes my suspicions about her feel more valid. LMAO@ the “OMG” sign. WTH? :lol:

      • 276 Dakota
        December 3, 2025 at 3:02 pm

        Yeah PJ, she chose to put up with his B.S. for years in relative silence and his arrogance has made her look like a fool in front of the entire world. While I have little sympathy for her, it’s time for her to grow a pair and make him pay. Personally, I’d do a Lorena Bobbit on him.

        • 277 jacquelineoboomer
          December 3, 2025 at 3:05 pm

          A fast divorce and a big party with her friends would be less bloody. Ha!

        • 278 Alycee (@jazziz2)
          December 3, 2025 at 3:37 pm

          read on twitter: “The Bible says ‘And if ur right hand causes u 2 sin cut it off &throw it away.’ Do u see where I’m going?”

          Follow @PragObotsPragmaticObotsUnite@PragObots
          PragmaticObotsUnite
          "The Bible says 'And if ur right hand causes u 2 sin cut it off &throw it away.' Do u see where I'm going?" #thingssaidinthecainhousetonight
        • 279 prettyfoot58
          December 3, 2025 at 5:14 pm

          It truly amazes me…how he was able to last this long….he should have been boooooooed off the stage …and soundly criticized by the Press….but womanizing and sexual harrassment is accepted…no matter how much lip service is given to the contrary

          • 280 theo67
            December 3, 2025 at 5:18 pm

            I wrote off Cain when he first said he wouldn’t have any Muslim people serving in his cabinet. That first offensive statement told me exactly who he was, and he compounded that with racist comments towards the President, offenses against women (and the subsequent demonizing of his accusers), his ridicule of reading and now his egotistic “suspension”. There is nothing redeeming about this pathetic little man.

      • 281 Fred
        December 3, 2025 at 3:17 pm

        Cain can only blame the “suspension” of his campaign on too much fornication.As for Gloria I have no words.She sure as hell was throwing shades as the women who stood by their men and said she wasn’t gonna take it but yet not only did she stand there but she clapped and nodded.I’ll stop at that or I’ll get a SMH …

      • 285 lmrj
        December 3, 2025 at 6:43 pm

        There are all kinds of prostitution. She may be still in it for the $$$. I see her clapping, nodding in agreement and smiling all the way to the bank. After all, #Cainwreck is still tied to the Kochs and no telling what they offered Glo to stand by her man. Called selling your soul along with your values.

  82. 286 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 2:49 pm

    Herb Cain.. ” If your Presidential Campaign crumbles before your eyes….Blame yourself “

    • 287 jacquelineoboomer
      December 3, 2025 at 3:06 pm

      Good one.

      Maybe one day we can tell Newt that school janitors are hiring, when he’s looking for a job after this.

      • 288 Obama Grandmama
        December 3, 2025 at 3:34 pm

        The Newt suggestion of hiring poor kids to clean the toilets and scrub the floors reminds me of when I was in Versaille (whoops sp?) in France. I listened to the tour guide tell us about the poor workers there whose children served as footmen etc on the rich aristocrats childrens’ golden coaches and also served as handmaidens for the wealthy children. You really understood why there was a revolution as you stood infront of the minature golden coaches that would only fit minature drivers and footmen. Suddenly you understood the entire history there of the poor people uprising against the wealthy aristocrats. I also think comparitively of that moment when I see the OWS out in the streets. Newt’s suggestion reminds me of dividing and embarassing poor children from their peers. His idea that they would be able to buy an ice cream or an Ipad like his granddaughter seemed ignorant of reality and the needs of the families to pay rent and put food on the table in their homes.

  83. 289 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 2:51 pm

    Here’s the photo from thecainsolutions.com website, where the word politicians is misspelled:

    http://thecainsolutions.com/
    http://thecainsolutions.com/img/main-img.jpg

    Jared Ketterman used the same picture for his CD. Considering Cain’s actual odds of ever holding electoral office, I’d say this photo adaptation is more fitting:

    http://content.bandzoogle.com/users/JaredKetterman/images/content/Cover1-2-600.jpg

  84. 291 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 2:52 pm

    A Different View on Gingrich

    by BooMan
    Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 at 08:56:31 AM EST
    Newt Gingrich recently had the following to say about poor kids in poor neighborhoods:

    “Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works,” the former House speaker said at a campaign event at the Nationwide Insurance offices. “So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash,’ unless it’s illegal.”

    Most of the reaction has been focused on two things. First, that Gingrich was blowing his dogwhistle and taking a shot at black people. Second, that he’s factually wrong. Charles Blow took the latter approach. My reaction was a little different.

    I’ve worked with poor kids in poor neighborhoods. In 2004, as a county coordinator for Project Vote, I worked out of the North Philadelphia ACORN office. Part of my job was to interview (mostly) black kids, hire the ones I thought were promising, and train them to do voter registration and Get Out the Vote canvassing campaigns.

    ………………………………………………………….

    I learned some valuable things during my months working with these kids. I learned so much I could go on writing about it forever. One thing I learned was that the best canvassers and the most reliable workers were the ones that had learned how to master some hustle. By hustle, I mean roughly what Newt Gingrich meant. In our American ghettos, where there are way too few jobs to keep people legitimately employed, there are microeconomics and black markets. People find a way to survive. I knew kids who sold fraudulent car tags for inspection and registration. I knew kids who sold bootleg DVD’s. I knew kids who magically “found” boxes of t-shirts. I knew kids who, lucky enough to own or have access to a car, operated as a taxi service. Technically, they were all committing crimes to a greater or lesser extent. But they were the kids with the best work ethic, the ones most likely to keep their word, the best leaders, the most ambitious, the least lazy, and the ones I’d trust most to carry out a task without supervision. And they were smart. Really smart. Yes, they were street smart, but they were intellectually sharp, too. These kids could have handled college. And, what’s more, when a legitimate job opened up, they were first in line to apply.

    It’s not work ethic that is a problem. It’s a lack of work.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/12/3/85631/9443

    • 292 africa
      December 3, 2025 at 3:14 pm

      Newt is a deeply mean-spirited human being. He is a con man compared to the poor children he lambastes. He epitomizes a lot of ppl running GOP. So many of them feel entitled, self-centered and just plain mean and greedy.

  85. 293 PoliticalJunkessa
    December 3, 2025 at 2:54 pm

    I hope the SNL writers are on this tomfoolery. Shouldn’t be too hard to mine comedy gold from this debacle for tonight’s show. :lol:

  86. 294 FiredUpInCA
    December 3, 2025 at 3:08 pm

    Today we got a glimpse of what a Cain Presidency would look like:

    Plan A to fix the economy: 999
    Plan B: If 999 failed, launch a website called Cainsolutions.com, with no solutions on it.
    Plan C: Bow his head and reassure a weary nation with words from the theme song for Pokémon: The Movie 2000.

  87. 295 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 3:13 pm

    December 03, 2025 8:05 AM
    Perry’s ‘faithful’ boast

    By Steve Benen

    In August, it looked awfully likely that Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), fresh off his massive prayer rally, called “The Response,” would use religion as the basis for his presidential campaign and capture the overwhelming support of the religious right. If that was the strategy, it never came together.

    It looks like the former frontrunner hopes it’s not too late. Here’s the message in his new ad, running in Iowa:


    “When you run for president, you get a bunch of questions about your faith. People want to know what drives you, how you make decisions. Now, some liberals say that faith is a sign of weakness. Well, they’re wrong. I think we all need God’s help. America’s greatest leaders have been people of strong faith, strong values. That makes for a strong America. I’m Rick Perry. I’m not ashamed to talk about my faith.

    It’s an interesting message for all kinds of reasons. At face value, religious-right voters are a powerful force in the Iowa Republican caucuses, so it’s not surprising candidates would shape their messages accordingly. Also, by emphasizing he’s “not ashamed,” he’s drawing a subtle contrast with Mitt Romney, who tends not to make similar boasts about his Mormonism.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/perrys_faithful_boast033876.php

    • 296 Jackie Grumbacher
      December 3, 2025 at 5:34 pm

      Wow this is GWB all over again. His linguistic trick was the “some liberals say” strawman that no Liberal ever said in his life that he would courageously dispute. Same with Palin who to this day claims “some liberals” thought she should abort her child. No one ever challenges them on who these mythical liberals are or when and where they actually said these things.

  88. 297 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 3:14 pm

    daveweigel RT @ddayen: The next episode of Bad Lip Reading can just be that entire Herman Cain speech, unchanged #CainWreck

  89. December 3, 2025 at 3:15 pm

    What an absolute FRAUD!!!! I said to myself the Jerk can’t even take off the sunglasses
    and face the idiots supporting him, can’t look them in the eye.

    Oh and yeah President Obama won’t sleep a wink tonight after losing this endorsement.

    I am sick to my stomach with this minstrel show, slavecatcher “slaveship in shoes” nightmare
    of an excuse for a human being called Cain. I thought after Sarah Palin nobody would ever
    raise my political ire to this extent. Guess I was wrong.

    Got your back PBO. We will Presson. I try to follow yr example to not be disturbed by all
    the drama…but this time I failed. Had to react to this ignorance. Will now try to climb
    back up to your level and that will be a long haul, coming from this far down in the gutter.

  90. 299 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 3:18 pm

    December 02, 2025 11:27 AM
    Rubio, Republican Dream VP, Won’t Fix Party Woes

    By Jonathan Alter

    With Newt Gingrich’s surge, the Republican presidential race is more uncertain than ever. But the party’s pick for vice president has for months seemed like a foregone conclusion.

    Although he claims to have no interest in the job, Florida Senator Marco Rubio is still the most likely VP choice for any Republican nominee, especially Gingrich, who has mentioned Rubio specifically.

    Rubio is young, bright, handsome and from a critical swing state that he carried in 2010 by nearly 20 points. Most important, he’s Hispanic. He doesn’t have to help Republicans win Hispanics outright, but merely cut into the Democrats’ mammoth advantage. The Obama campaign knows that if the president, who won 67 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2008, can be held below 60 percent this time, he’s almost sure to lose.

    But in truth, Rubio is not the ideal vice-presidential candidate to solve Republicans’ trouble with Hispanics. Cuban- Americans have a big voice in Florida politics (where they already vote Republican) but make up only 4 percent of Hispanics nationwide. Mexican-Americans make up 66 percent of Hispanics, and tapping their potential at the polls may determine the results in swing states such as Arizona, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico.

    There’s no evidence that a Cuban-American who opposes even the DREAM Act (which would create a path to citizenship for children of illegal immigrants who finish high school and join the military or attend college) will bring other Hispanics out to vote or get them to switch parties.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2011/12/rubio_republican_dream_vp_wont033854.php#

    • 300 Linda
      December 3, 2025 at 3:21 pm

      I wonder who considers Rubio “handsome”….

      • 301 dotster3
        December 3, 2025 at 3:53 pm

        I will admit that he’s attractive physically, but that’s the only nice thing I can say about Rubio. He’s dishonest, has a history of Palin style grifter tendencies, more than a hint of the sleaze, and his politics are extreme right, as conservative as can be. But I think he will be the VP choice. He’s been popping up everywhere lately, even with Obama the other day. I think Repubs think they can trick Hispanics into voting for him.

      • 306 PoliticalJunkessa
        December 3, 2025 at 4:25 pm

        People who find uptight, college republican frat boy types attractive probably think he’s handsome. That is a type.

    • 307 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 3:41 pm

      Rubio would turn down Newt because Newt doesn’t have a chance. He might go with Romney, but I suspect Romney might tab Susana Martinez, Gov on New Mexico. Crosses off to demo’s off the list - female and Latino with Mexican roots. Of course her grandfather was an illegal immigrant so that could be tricky.

    • 308 theo67
      December 3, 2025 at 4:39 pm

      There was a report about Cantor gearing up for a VP run. They said his chief of staff had moved to campaign/fundraiser mode, because they think if they can raise a juggernaut of cash, they’ll be irresistible. Cantor has been after the tea party mantle for months now, by advocating for a government default, holding steady with this no tax increase nonsense, and being disrespectful to the President. He would be disastrous.

      • 309 saintroscoe
        December 3, 2025 at 5:09 pm

        He’d make it WAY to easy to run against congress with Cantor on the ticket. Eric does need to make a move though, as he’s near 50 years old, the Senate seems likely locked off for him assuming Warner doesn’t get the Dem nod in 2016 and the Governorship already had a growing field on the GOP side with Lt Gov Bolling and now AG Cuccinelli with their hats in.

        Gov McDonnell would make much more sense if Romney/Gingrich went looking to a Pol in Virginia. McDonnell won statewide in Va Cantor has only won in his safe red district.

        • 310 theo67
          December 3, 2025 at 5:15 pm

          I thought McDonnell had gone down in favor shortly after they did a fake State of the Union response a week after he was elected? Is he back in favor?

        • 311 Jackie Grumbacher
          December 3, 2025 at 5:38 pm

          Didn’t you hear? Our local paper says that Pat Toomey is the love du jour for VP because he performed so well on the Super Committee. The GOP leadership thinks he would excite the Tea Partiers and carry a swing state. The fact that he has the personality of a fish, likes like an embalmed corpse and won by a tiny margin in a tea party year seems immaterial.

  91. 312 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 3:28 pm

    December 03, 2025 3:15 PM
    What’s next for Cain and the GOP

    By Steve Benen

    With Herman Cain’s presidential campaign on ice and his political career finished, there are a couple of questions to consider in the short term: (1) what will Cain do now? and (2) where will his supporters go?

    Up until relatively recently, Cain seemed destined to become a conservative star on the media/lecture/publishing circuit, conceivably even offering a justification for his absurd campaign. But over the last several weeks, it probably became apparent, even to Republican voters, that Herman Cain is a not-terribly-bright guy with a scandalous personal life. The more we learned about Cain, the harder it was to respect him.

    That said, Cain remains a GOP player of some notoriety, and the remaining Republican presidential candidates were tripping over one another this afternoon to offer praise for Cain, hoping to woo not only the man but also his remaining supporters. When Cain declared today, “I will be making an endorsement in the near future,” this only intensified the other campaigns’ eagerness.

    …………………………………………………………………..

    The Iowa caucuses are 31 days away.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/whats_next_for_cain_and_the_go033882.php

    • 313 theo67
      December 3, 2025 at 4:41 pm

      It says something that the other candidates are desperate for the endorsement of a man who has “suspended” his campaign in disgrace, and who showed not even a modicum of knowledge of current events, discounted the value of reading, and made bigoted and misogynistic statements with abandon.

    • 316 Bill
      December 3, 2025 at 4:54 pm

      The half term governor is “not terribly-bright” amd has a “scandalous personal life” and it has not hurt her with the Republicans.

      • 317 saintroscoe
        December 3, 2025 at 5:10 pm

        But she’s pretty hot.

        • 318 theo67
          December 3, 2025 at 5:14 pm

          The ugly comes from the inside with Palin. Have you taken a look at her lately? I’ve never understood the physical fascination with her - the shrill tone of her voice and her policies have always clouded any “attractive” qualities about her for me.

        • 319 utaustinliberal
          December 3, 2025 at 5:15 pm

          Ewwww………I hope you were being sarcastic. :) She is not hot at all. Just because one puts lipstick on a pig does not mean it is not a pig.

  92. 320 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    GOP Nominee Will Cause Fissures

    by BooMan
    Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 at 11:12:04 AM EST

    While it is still possible that none of the current Republican presidential candidates will earn enough delegates to claim the nomination, it’s becoming clear that the nomination of any of the current field of candidates will cause huge fissions in the Republican coalition. One piece of evidence for this comes from George Will. He uses today’s column to eviscerate Newt Gingrich in the harshest tones, and to compare Mitt Romney to Tom Dewey (who lost to Harry Truman in 1948). Mr. Will advises against nominating either of the two front-runners. Instead, he makes a quarter-hearted pitch for Rick Perry:

    Rick Perry (disclosure: my wife, Mari Will, advises him) has been disappointing in debates. They test nothing pertinent to presidential duties but have become absurdly important. Perry’s political assets remain his Texas record and Southwestern zest for disliking Washington and Wall Street simultaneously and equally.

    That’s literally all Mr. Will can muster in Perry’s favor. I get the feeling he only mentioned him to keep a degree of harmony in his household. His real pitch is for Jon Huntsman, who he assures us is the most conservative of all the candidates.

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/12/3/11124/9395

  93. 322 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 3:51 pm

    TPM Editor’s Blog
    That Won’t Work

    Josh Marshall December 2, 2011, 1:56 PM

    In the words of the British moral philosopher David St. Hubbins, it’s such a fine line between stupid and clever. And in the line Mitt Romney’s campaign is giving to Politico and other outlets, I think they’re coming down in the former category.

    According to Mitt advisors, one of their key hits against Gingrich will be that he’s a flip-flopper. And this won’t just hurt Newt, apparently, it will also serve to inoculate Romney from charges that he’s a flip-flopper.

    Did you hear that? Pushing the flip-flopper issue against Gingrich will help Romney? There are plenty of ways to hit Newt and by any reasonable measure he’s a very vulnerable candidate. But for Mitt Romney to push the idea that Newt’s a flip-flopper seems wildly nuts — one of those over-clever ideas that political operatives are spinning out to reporters all the time but usually wise-up before actually trying.

    But does anyone really doubt that Newt’s a really conservative guy and that that’s been pretty consistently the case for about 35 years? Of course not.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/12/that_wont_work.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Talking-Points-Memo+%28Talking+Points+Memo%3A+by+Joshua+Micah+Marshall%29

    • 323 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 4:01 pm

      The attempt won’t work because it’s already pretty established charge against Romney, so it reeks of “But Newt did it too”, like when little kids get caught doing something they’re not supposed to and rat out their brother/sister thinking that saves them.

      Newt can just push back against that by saying “I was taking on Clinton in the mid-90′s balancing the budget while you were professing to be an independent in the Reagan years, being 100% pro-choice and running as a liberal Republican against Sen Kennedy”.

  94. 324 utaustinliberal
    December 3, 2025 at 3:52 pm

    Methinks Gloria Cain will soon have a revolving account at a Tiffany’s store nearby. And Herman Cain will be resuming his affair with Ginger White in 3…..2….1.

  95. 327 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 3:52 pm

    It will be great fun when just Newt Romney and Mitt Gingrich are the only two left.

    Mean vs. Nasty. 2012

    • 328 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 4:04 pm

      PPP finding Newt only up single digits in Iowa. Also finds Perry in double digits. If Newt falters could we see a Perry comeback?

      • 329 nintendowii10
        December 3, 2025 at 4:08 pm

        Doubt it, he doesn’t have the support of the Bush folks… not to mention that the more he debates, the more he proves and demonstrates his ignorance… I mean not being able to remember the agencies of government he’d eliminate (WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER) and then confusing the voting age with the drinking age, and not getting the primary date correct. What a mess!

  96. 331 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 4:27 pm

    The Second Coming Of George Wallace?

    That’s how John Cassidy sees Newt:

    If Gingrich comes surging out of South Carolina and Florida, the specter of George Wallace will start to haunt Romney and his backers in the Republican hierarchy. George Wallace wasn’t considered electable in 1972, when he entered the Democratic primaries, but that didn’t prevent the populist and pro-segregationist governor of Alabama from winning the Florida primary and chasing the establishment favorites Ed Muskie and Hubert Humphrey out of the race before a bullet from an attempted assassin left him paralyzed.

    Suderman focuses on the lack of enthusiasm Republicans feel for Romney:

    Try talking to Republicans about Mitt Romney, and you’ll find two things: First, a lot of them don’t want to talk, and when they decline they frequently stress the need for maintaining a good working relationship should Romney become the nominee. Those who do talk tend to say a few cautiously nice things about him. He’s a decent guy. He’s a good manager. He’s intelligent. He knows business. But it’s hard to find party insiders or activists who are genuinely enthusiastic about his candidacy. The people who like him best—self-styled moderates and business folks who shy away from the rougher edges of the party’s activist base—are merely comfortable with him, because they see, or think they see, a familiar type of individual.

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/the-second-coming-of-george-wallace.html

    • 332 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 4:54 pm

      Romney has always banked on Republicans hating Obama more than liking him to get out the rightwing vote.

      • 333 theo67
        December 3, 2025 at 5:20 pm

        Who wants a President who relies on hate to get elected, versus offering solutions that people can get behind? I hope America doesn’t let down the world in this next election.

  97. 334 rikyrah
    December 3, 2025 at 4:30 pm

    3 Dec 2025 01:55 PM
    Newt’s Appeal, Ctd

    Kathleen Parker is the latest to throw in her two cents, with a lovely turn of phrase:

    Most Americans would rather embrace a man who has fallen and climbed back to his feet than one who has never stubbed his toe on temptation. The successful protagonist is always flawed. In Romney breaking news: He removes the cheese from his pizza but has a weakness for chocolate milk. Mr. Squeaky not only has no skeletons in the closet; he has no closets.

    He’s in that uncanny valley. But I suspect Kathleen under-estimates what many readers have argued: that the appeal of Gingrich to many Fox News viewers is that he will finally reveal Obama as that empty-suited, know-nothing, affirmative action dunce that they believe him to be. Gingrich’s genius ingredient is this Lincoln-Douglas debate idea, which combines a historical luster with the hint that Obama couldn’t handle it.

    Of course, when you actually imagine a Gingrich-Obama debate, and you are not living in a cocoon that insists that Obama is both dumb and a commie, you see how fatal a trap this could be for the GOP.

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/newts.html

    • 335 saintroscoe
      December 3, 2025 at 4:59 pm

      I think there might be some truth to what Parker is saying. Republicans like to believe that with a bit of luck their way, they could have been President. We’ve all made mistakes and are flawed - if Newt was smart he’d own up to his mistakes, say he’s not perfect but he’s learned from them and is a better, stronger person today and how if he never made those mistakes he would have never met Callista etc.

  98. 336 dotster3
    December 3, 2025 at 4:46 pm

    I’m sick of the Cain Wreck obsession too, but I think it’s mildly interesting that LOD is tweeting that Cain had to “suspend” because he’s going to be in tax trouble a la John Edwards due to the cash money that exchanged hands between Cain and Ms. White. I wondered why LOD kept asking Ms. White if Cain always paid her in cash. He made a big point of that. (answer was yes) And now I know why.

  99. 337 auni
    December 3, 2025 at 4:56 pm

    Hello Obama Grandmama-thanks for the story about the little golden coaches. My grandson lives with me most of the time, but stays with his Mom once in awhile in a poor neighborhood. He is a very smart kid, and with any luck at all he will go to college. The idea of him cleaning toilets in his school makes me furious! Can you imagine how middle school kids would treat the poor kids? Work for kids is a good thing-kids in his Mom’s neighborhood pull weeds in neighbor’s gardens, run errands etc.-and come up with their own ideas for making money. Cleaning the toilets is the worst idea I can think of-.

    • 338 theo67
      December 3, 2025 at 5:11 pm

      I can’t imagine that Newt’s world is the one that parents want for their children. Even if a child isn’t poor, would a parent want their child to look at other people that way? And if a child is poor, why would a parent want a world where their child is limited in opportunity simply because of the circumstances of their birth? Sounds like a caste system, and goes completely against what most people think about when they contemplate the values of the United States of America.

  100. 339 carolyn
    December 3, 2025 at 5:07 pm

    Newt wants us to go back to the world Charles Dickens wrote about and exposed to the world and which the world changed! Pretty soon he’ll want the kids to sing “Food, glorious food.” and hold up their pitiful bowls for gruel! He really has no idea how the world operates. He could be the model for Ebenezer Scrooge….but totally unredeemed.

  101. 340 Linda
    December 3, 2025 at 5:11 pm

    What just happened ? There was a heads up for a new thread and it has disappeared.

    • 341 meabloom
      December 3, 2025 at 5:17 pm

      I know right! I kept refreshing but nothing was happening. That event is scheduled for tomorrow.

    • 342 utaustinliberal
      December 3, 2025 at 5:18 pm

      I think Chipsticks maybe thought today was the day PBO and FLOTUS were holding the WH event for the Kennedy Center Honorees. Maybe she realized that it happens tomorrow. That’s just my guess. :)

  102. 347 theo67
    December 3, 2025 at 5:24 pm

    Kind of off topic - I wish the White House would publish which rooms they’re in when they tape these weekly addresses. I’m always interested in what part of the White House they’re in - especially when the rooms seem new or not commonly seen.

  103. 348 nospin
    December 3, 2025 at 5:55 pm

    Not sure if anyone else missed the entire Tribal Nations conference like I did so I am posting a link just in case someone else was looking for it.

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/Tribal-Nations-Meet-in-Washington/10737425972/

  104. December 3, 2025 at 6:03 pm

    Hi everyone, new ‘chat away’ post here

    http://theobamadiary.com/2011/12/03/chat-away-17/

    This one’s getting crowded!


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