Nelson Mandela is to be buried in his ancestral home in Qunu in the Eastern Cape, ending a week of commemorations for South Africa’s first black leader.
Some 4,500 people - including foreign dignitaries - will be attending the funeral, which will blend state ceremonial with traditional rituals.
Members of his family are attending an overnight vigil, with a traditional praise singer believed to be chanting details of his long journey and life.
He died on 5 December aged 95.
Tutu to attend
The state funeral is expected to start at 06:00
….//
To solemn music, the coffin draped in a South African flag was moved by a military guard of honour and placed in a hearse to begin the 32km journey to Qunu, where Mr Mandela had wanted to spend his final days.
People waving flags and cheering and singing - in places 10 to 12 deep - lined the route taken by the cortege through Mthatha town to pay their last respects.
Tears as well as smiles could be seen on the faces of onlookers.
“He is finally coming home to rest, I can’t even begin to describe the feeling I have inside,” 31-year-old Bongani Zibi told AFP news agency.
“Part of me is sad but I’m also happy that he has found peace.”
Funny you should ask - I was thinking today that the BBC seems to have followed this every day with detailed reports.
Another thing that popped into my head tonight was to wonder why the village of Qunu did not have their own ‘viewing’. Yes, I figure all these days of public mourning must have been hard on immediate family members, yet reading some of the comments from his local ‘neighbours’ I feel for them not getting a chance to be more closely involved in the closure ceremonies.
They have long shared him with the world vc - I think they would be so proud to keep sharing - who could not feel honor and joy by just being part of his family
South Africa has had a much longer/closer relationship with the UK than it has ever had with the US. Most of it has not been a good relationship (to put it mildly) but reconciliation did happen and is still happening. Many of us with British roots have friends/family/ancestors who settled in South Africa 19th/20th century. There are many ties.
US media hardly shows these scenes. But they will blanket their airwaves and internet sites with gossipy trash about sign-language interpreter…. Something tells me that we will see very little of the State Funeral because it won’t provide an opportunity for the media to stalk PBO and push made-up stories about him. I hope we do get to see something - even if on a livestream. :)
I honestly thought nothing could surprise me any more about the media Hopefruit, but their efforts to denigrate every passing moment of the celebration of Nelson Mandela’s life, with ceaseless moronic crap, has actually astounded me. I think the SA government/ANC ****ed up big time with the sign language guy, and I’m still pissed he was allowed anywhere near PBO, all it did was give the MSM an opportunity to focus on nonsense, which they lapped up, needless to say. The rest? Unadulterated bile. Contrast their reporting of this with their wetting-their-knickers reverential treatment of the passing of that witch, Thatcher. No words.
Indeed Chips. Anyway on a brighter note, I’ve found a few livestreaming links (I hope they work when it’s time) that you can try out. 6:00GMT is 1AM Eastern time.
A good comparison - most of the UK ignored Thatcher’s funeral - many celebrated because she had died - not because she lived. She changed lives in UK - and not for the better. She paid off one generation and sold the rest of the people (and the local givernments) into poverty. But - she was white and she was bff with that paragon of media virtue Ronald Reagan.
The US media will always ignore anything that is not related 100% to the US - hence the only thing that happened at the Mandela memorial was PBO shaking hands, PBO taking a photo and an interpreter who stood next to PBO. They didn’t even concentrate on the President’s speech. They ignore the President when he is outside of the US - their press conferences are all about the media and nothing about the country, the administration, the people they are supposedly reporting to.
The story of the interpreter : a serious breach of security, so it’s big news. So I accept the fact that the media devoted a lot of time on the story. But for the rest, they’ve been awful.
I think the pundits and their bosses in the editing room care only SUPERFICIALLY about Mandela. He’s a global icon so yes they have to talk about him. But their heart and soul is NOT affected. Good point, Chipsticks, to remind us of their covering of Mrs. Thatcher’s passing.
They don’t really GET, at the consciousness level, the spiritual importance and greatness of Nelson Mandela. Margaret Thatcher will go down in history as a British Prime Minister, an important one, yes, but not more than that. While Nelson Mandela will inspire generations of people all around the world for decades, for centuries. Because, like President Obama said, he is a people’s iberator.
If they did GET the stature of Nelson Mandela, if they DID respect, profoundly, the message of Mr. Mandela, they would have been very moved by President’s speech, and would not had even DARED to devote so much time to the silliness of “Selfiegate”. They would have felt it indecent to tarnish the day. They wouldn’t have been in the mood for pettiness.
Had a great time. Met with one of my college buddies, who is now an ‘murkan (Traitor !), after 5 years. Got complimented on my looks. (amk hasn’t changed a bit).
Double scotch on the rocks for Hors d’oeuvre chased by 3 glasses of outrageously priced french red.
Chips I had to go back two years ago and read for myself just how silly you were on TOD about Donna’s phone call. It finally made sense and you were all so funny on TOD. Thankful again I found this place.
Yup, I would have loved a live stream but TNT will air it on Friday if we don’t see the live taping of the show. Hopefully, Chips is able to get some nice pics as she usually does :).
The quote of Jonathan Swift: SO TRUE. It has happened so many times in history.
We often hear that both President Clinton and President Obama were met with entrenched opposition, and that in the case of President Obama it’s worse because or the color of his skin. I think it’s true. However, there is something else at play. Much more than Clinton, Barack Obama is viewed as a GLOBAL game changer. He INSPIRES young people all around the world to get engaged in politics. To “Be The Change”. He’s not a warmonger but he’s not a naïve and ineffective pacifist; he’s a true peacemaker.
That doesn’t sit well with some powerful global interests, who benefit from the status quo .
Lovepolitics2008 - You are spot on, I believe. Thank you for sharing that, because it beautifully expresses how we feel about our President’s “true peacemaker” genes. (Just gave myself chills copying your words!)
I don’t believe the world will have seen another memorial cum funeral like this one!
//,,,
Members of the South African Defence Force and the police paid tribute to Nelson Mandela in song at Union Buildings, much to the delight of onlookers.
………………..//
And, while Megyn is checking the art credits, she can ponder how foolish she was not spend a bit of time studying geography & anthropology, let alone history, as I had earlier in the week urged her to do ….
Dear @MegynKelly I urged you to consider geography & anthropology your friends. You flunked both & then played victim http://t.co/LL5zFPlocG
Chips, that’s not the point of my tweet. Am fully aware of how vile Sully is. That he is the one to take down Ms Kelly in such an historical context is just too ironic to not be leveraged, fully.
Please indicate the link is sullivan - I don’t go there - he thinks intelligence is race related - and you don’t need 3 guesses as to which race comes out in front.
At a guess, he only wrote on this because of the Jesus issue, not the white santa. Sullivan preaches on issues that personally impact himself - catholic religion/gay issues.
Yeah. After reading his writings on race, African-Americans, and intelligence, I was beyond disgusted. That someone who is a minority (his being gay) and who conservatives treat as less than human, would have such views of other minorities was very eye opening.
Yes
And yet he will never be forgotten.
I look at Mandela’s life and think: Some actually manage to do the work for/to which they were born.
Hey you!
Hey back at you! :razz: Haven’t I been just a nice, quiet, well-behaved villager lately? ;) :grin:
Just I was posting on Donna’s ‘that’ call post. Howdy, y’all.
Hi, Ison. You are scarcer than white gold. How are you, and how is your son?
i’m hanging in there, vc. Happy Holidays!!
Thanks - wishing the same for you and yours!
I hit ‘post’ too soon! My son is doing well. He is why I am so passionate about public education.
{{Isonprize}}
So glad that the New Yorker put the picture of Nelson Mandela on their cover.
AMANDLA!!!
Isonnnnnnnnn
Hey Prettyfoot!!
Soar with the angels Madiba. Soar with the angels.
Gold. Silver. Bronze.
The Medalist, VC is TODably fast.
Congrats.
:grin: Only for now, Nena.
Oops, the Bronze went to isonprize ;)
UnLike Mark Knoller………I should retire from this assigned cushy TODable job, at least for this evening :)
Ha, like Markie, you need a new calculator Nena!
Hi Chips,
Is WP now blocking your tweet feeds - none are scrolling in the sidebar.
:lol:
I should retire from this assigned cushy TODable job - :grin: :grin:
:D :D :D
Congrats on 1st VC :)
:oops: Y, TY, Bfr. /flutter. flutter/
That New Yorker cover does justice to its subject. I might seek one out to keep.
IN_DEED, Judith!!! Righteous, undaunted Leadership.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25386729
Nelson Mandela is to be buried in his ancestral home in Qunu in the Eastern Cape, ending a week of commemorations for South Africa’s first black leader.
Some 4,500 people - including foreign dignitaries - will be attending the funeral, which will blend state ceremonial with traditional rituals.
Members of his family are attending an overnight vigil, with a traditional praise singer believed to be chanting details of his long journey and life.
He died on 5 December aged 95.
Tutu to attend
The state funeral is expected to start at 06:00
….//
To solemn music, the coffin draped in a South African flag was moved by a military guard of honour and placed in a hearse to begin the 32km journey to Qunu, where Mr Mandela had wanted to spend his final days.
People waving flags and cheering and singing - in places 10 to 12 deep - lined the route taken by the cortege through Mthatha town to pay their last respects.
Tears as well as smiles could be seen on the faces of onlookers.
“He is finally coming home to rest, I can’t even begin to describe the feeling I have inside,” 31-year-old Bongani Zibi told AFP news agency.
“Part of me is sad but I’m also happy that he has found peace.”
Will our media carry the funeral?
Funny you should ask - I was thinking today that the BBC seems to have followed this every day with detailed reports.
Another thing that popped into my head tonight was to wonder why the village of Qunu did not have their own ‘viewing’. Yes, I figure all these days of public mourning must have been hard on immediate family members, yet reading some of the comments from his local ‘neighbours’ I feel for them not getting a chance to be more closely involved in the closure ceremonies.
They have long shared him with the world vc - I think they would be so proud to keep sharing - who could not feel honor and joy by just being part of his family
They have been doing a thorough job - most everything I’ve seen each day since the memorial has come from BBC.
In fact, I think I saw Jesse Jackson in one of their pics yesterday or today (can’t remember which).
South Africa has had a much longer/closer relationship with the UK than it has ever had with the US. Most of it has not been a good relationship (to put it mildly) but reconciliation did happen and is still happening. Many of us with British roots have friends/family/ancestors who settled in South Africa 19th/20th century. There are many ties.
Thanks for the info. Will be up to watch.
Madiba would be proud of these folk ….
…. and how fitting ….
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Done! Good luck isonprize and lets hope they remain in first place :)
US media hardly shows these scenes. But they will blanket their airwaves and internet sites with gossipy trash about sign-language interpreter…. Something tells me that we will see very little of the State Funeral because it won’t provide an opportunity for the media to stalk PBO and push made-up stories about him. I hope we do get to see something - even if on a livestream. :)
I honestly thought nothing could surprise me any more about the media Hopefruit, but their efforts to denigrate every passing moment of the celebration of Nelson Mandela’s life, with ceaseless moronic crap, has actually astounded me. I think the SA government/ANC ****ed up big time with the sign language guy, and I’m still pissed he was allowed anywhere near PBO, all it did was give the MSM an opportunity to focus on nonsense, which they lapped up, needless to say. The rest? Unadulterated bile. Contrast their reporting of this with their wetting-their-knickers reverential treatment of the passing of that witch, Thatcher. No words.
Indeed Chips. Anyway on a brighter note, I’ve found a few livestreaming links (I hope they work when it’s time) that you can try out. 6:00GMT is 1AM Eastern time.
http://newsblogged.com/live-streaming-video-nelson-mandela-state-funeral-qunu-south-africa-sunday-15th-december-2013
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/12/viewers-guide-to-mandelas-funeral-and-memorials.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mandela-s-body-arrives-in-ancestral-village-for-burial-1.2464146
http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Mandela-Funeral-Live-Stream-235793471.html
A good comparison - most of the UK ignored Thatcher’s funeral - many celebrated because she had died - not because she lived. She changed lives in UK - and not for the better. She paid off one generation and sold the rest of the people (and the local givernments) into poverty. But - she was white and she was bff with that paragon of media virtue Ronald Reagan.
The US media will always ignore anything that is not related 100% to the US - hence the only thing that happened at the Mandela memorial was PBO shaking hands, PBO taking a photo and an interpreter who stood next to PBO. They didn’t even concentrate on the President’s speech. They ignore the President when he is outside of the US - their press conferences are all about the media and nothing about the country, the administration, the people they are supposedly reporting to.
Nelson Mandela is in my thoughts forever.
The story of the interpreter : a serious breach of security, so it’s big news. So I accept the fact that the media devoted a lot of time on the story. But for the rest, they’ve been awful.
I think the pundits and their bosses in the editing room care only SUPERFICIALLY about Mandela. He’s a global icon so yes they have to talk about him. But their heart and soul is NOT affected. Good point, Chipsticks, to remind us of their covering of Mrs. Thatcher’s passing.
They don’t really GET, at the consciousness level, the spiritual importance and greatness of Nelson Mandela. Margaret Thatcher will go down in history as a British Prime Minister, an important one, yes, but not more than that. While Nelson Mandela will inspire generations of people all around the world for decades, for centuries. Because, like President Obama said, he is a people’s iberator.
If they did GET the stature of Nelson Mandela, if they DID respect, profoundly, the message of Mr. Mandela, they would have been very moved by President’s speech, and would not had even DARED to devote so much time to the silliness of “Selfiegate”. They would have felt it indecent to tarnish the day. They wouldn’t have been in the mood for pettiness.
/Asks nervously ….. how did your party go?
Had a great time. Met with one of my college buddies, who is now an ‘murkan (Traitor !), after 5 years. Got complimented on my looks. (amk hasn’t changed a bit).
Double scotch on the rocks for Hors d’oeuvre chased by 3 glasses of outrageously priced french red.
Ta Da. No head splitting hangovers.
Did you get your Mac Air?
Nah, this was another pal. The other pal, let’s call him lazy slacker, is coming to India only next year.
Just wondering. So you have two friends? ;)
Have two of everything. Except wifey unit. Sigh …
:roll:
:roll: myself.
You obviously live in the wrong country/state
http://crooksandliars.com/2013/12/utah-judge-decriminalizes-polygamy
OMG - you are hilarious!
“Got complimented on my looks.”
Sir, you make me howl, every single time :lol:
Ha! I get that ‘hasn’t changed a bit’ line all the time. And in **my** case, of course it’s true.
Amk, congratulations to your daughter. You must be very proud of her.
Thank you, sjterrid. We are.
Chips I had to go back two years ago and read for myself just how silly you were on TOD about Donna’s phone call. It finally made sense and you were all so funny on TOD. Thankful again I found this place.
Silly? SILLY? Why, yes Carol :lol:
And Funny! Oh and Danny is the cutest. You might want to get him an iPad for Christmas. The Golden Retriever will baby him I’m sure. ;)
Meet the artist of the New Yorker cover picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25243007
O, there’s a very short video where the artist speaks of his inspiration.
Will we be able to see the Christmas program tomorrow hosted by Mr. Jackman. I hope so. If anyone have any info please let us know.
Yup, I would have loved a live stream but TNT will air it on Friday if we don’t see the live taping of the show. Hopefully, Chips is able to get some nice pics as she usually does :).
Test to see if this tweet will display correctly …
Nope, Bob. I blame bt.
;)
I see you.
:D :D
Chips - something weird is happening. I checked Safari and all is ok. Only happening with Firefox, at this point.
Second attempt: Safari is fine. Firefox is not. Have cleared cache, cookies, etc. Problem persists.
Another test tweet:
TRUTH.
The quote of Jonathan Swift: SO TRUE. It has happened so many times in history.
We often hear that both President Clinton and President Obama were met with entrenched opposition, and that in the case of President Obama it’s worse because or the color of his skin. I think it’s true. However, there is something else at play. Much more than Clinton, Barack Obama is viewed as a GLOBAL game changer. He INSPIRES young people all around the world to get engaged in politics. To “Be The Change”. He’s not a warmonger but he’s not a naïve and ineffective pacifist; he’s a true peacemaker.
That doesn’t sit well with some powerful global interests, who benefit from the status quo .
Lovepolitics2008 - You are spot on, I believe. Thank you for sharing that, because it beautifully expresses how we feel about our President’s “true peacemaker” genes. (Just gave myself chills copying your words!)
Well said, LP. I think you’re onto something.
So anything goes is the new blog rule now? Jus’ askin’.
Please, no. I don’t think I can handle ‘anything goes’.
My preference would be that such tweets (and similar commentary) not become a norm at TOD.
Bummer, Bob. Have a few doozies myself yearning to be posted. :)
Sorry guys, I thought it was funny but my feelings aren’t hurt if Chips thinks it was out of bounds and wants to x it.
Forus, nooooooo problem, I post completely OT stuff ALL the time, relax everyone!!!! :-)
And what could be more OT than Danny’s cuddly toy chomping extravaganzas?
A nice humorous break from the evil media nonsense. Gave me a laugh…and a quizzically raised eyebrow.
No probs for me.
I don’t believe the world will have seen another memorial cum funeral like this one!
//,,,
Members of the South African Defence Force and the police paid tribute to Nelson Mandela in song at Union Buildings, much to the delight of onlookers.
………………..//
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25375396
http://3chicspolitico.com/2013/12/14/live-stream-nelson-mandela-state-funeral/ h/t 3 Chics
Reality of the devastation the GOP, in service of their plutocrat masters, has caused ….
And, while Megyn is checking the art credits, she can ponder how foolish she was not spend a bit of time studying geography & anthropology, let alone history, as I had earlier in the week urged her to do ….
To be honest Bob, I wouldn’t take any advice from Sullivan, he is racist to his core.
Yup. You nailed it, Chiparoo.
Chips, that’s not the point of my tweet. Am fully aware of how vile Sully is. That he is the one to take down Ms Kelly in such an historical context is just too ironic to not be leveraged, fully.
Hi JoB
Please indicate the link is sullivan - I don’t go there - he thinks intelligence is race related - and you don’t need 3 guesses as to which race comes out in front.
At a guess, he only wrote on this because of the Jesus issue, not the white santa. Sullivan preaches on issues that personally impact himself - catholic religion/gay issues.
Yeah. After reading his writings on race, African-Americans, and intelligence, I was beyond disgusted. That someone who is a minority (his being gay) and who conservatives treat as less than human, would have such views of other minorities was very eye opening.
New post:
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/12/14/live-streaming-nelson-mandelas-funeral/
It’s almost 530a, Sunday, in Kyiv and #euromadian continues to roll!!!