The pivotal question for me, since the beginning of this travesty is:
HOW, did this obviously unqualified man, get a position on the Cleveland Police Department? For me, it was the key to why they have been so odious with this case. Blaming a CHILD for being MURDERED in less than 2 seconds. Nobody wanted to answer this obvious question, so they have been peddling hard at the coverup on this case, because the answer to that question would mean the loss of numerous jobs.
This photo was taken a few WEEKS before 12-yr old #TamirRice was killed in 2 sec by police. They claim THIS is a man https://t.co/99cnwFWtga— #IAmSandraBland (@LeslieMac) December 28, 2025
Prosecutors are trying to convince us that the police thought #TamirRice was older than 12 yrs old https://t.co/WSdkttCBgb— PragmaticObotsUnite (@PragObots) December 28, 2025
How about people like Delrey and Jessie Jackson go into these inner cities and hold townhalls on how to make your vote count to rid your city of people who allow injustices to flourish
Getting mad or depressed doesn’t matter - what does matter is when elected officials become afraid that they will lose their high paying jobs through the vote of people who have been mistreated by the law that is sworn to protect them
it is not up to Delray or Jessie Jackson…to turn this tide of police…it is on all us…we must organize in each of our communities…we must select candidates who will deliver justice…and then hold them accountable if they don’t…..the power to change this is within us…and when i say us…i do not mean just blk folks….i mean all of us…
As leaders, Delray, Jesse, et al, should use their leadership skills and loud mouths to organize VOTER REGISTRATIONS and educate people on how to use the Power of the Vote.
BLM developed Campaign Zero in an effort to do just that…but i find that some young people do not have a lot of faith in the system and after the Grand Jury decision…who can fault them…but those of us who do believe that it is possible to win will have to work to convince them that it is possible to win…
How ’bout asking LeBron James (Ohio) and Carmelo Anthony (New York) to be guess speaker at a local TownHall/Voter Registration event in these affected cities. I bet they would do it - if someone asks
That’s how you get people to come and listen to what has to be said.
it is a travesty…WE MUST Organizeeee and Vote!!!! and Organize some more……..
this comes down to voting once again….the mayor…the DA…the legislators….are all elected positions….the folks who sit in these seats pass the laws and set the policies which guide our lives…We the People must begin to see the connection…
So is this an appointed or elected official? In our county, the DA is elected, so when things go wrong, the buck stops at the voters who didn’t bother to show up.
How many of the people who are blocking freeways, malls, & disrupting sidewalks are registered voters? Why don’t they use their energy in a constructive manner and hold public Voting Registrations instead of laying down in the middle of the street?
If it will yield a positive outcome - okay, but if it’s only causing people to tune them out, then to me, it’s like that Occupy group. What was accomplished?
I agree, if it’s like Occupy it’s a waste. I was thinking more of the sit-ins and protests during the 60’s They did voter registration drives too, but they also disrupted people’s live to draw attention to what was going on.
Maryl1, having lived through the sixties, I think a lot of people substituted protesting for solid political organizing. Yes, the protests raised awareness of injustices and yes, that did lead to greater equality under the law, but then a lot of people got bored, packed up and went home when it came time for the hard work of building a strong and enduring political base. And that gave us Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and eventually Reagan and the Bushes. We forgot to keep our eyes on the prize.
GGail, I agree with all my heart that if people don’t vote, nothing will change, even if there are protests and disruptions from now to doomsday. Protests are a great outlet for rage but they only generate anger in the powers that be, not fear. We have in our hands the power to create the system of justice we want to live under IF we organize, vote, and hold those elected officials accountable for their actions. The problem for most people is that registration drives and getting out the vote take hard work over long periods of time. People get impatient because they have been trained from birth to expect instant gratification for their efforts. The long, slow, tedious, day in and day out process of registering thousands upon thousands of people and then getting them to the polls seems like a mountain to high for many young people. But it’s the only mountain that counts and we all have to climb it.
I agree about the process of voter registration taking perseverance in our instant-gratification world. But protesting in any effective way takes time and patience too. I look back at the protesters of the 60’s. They did voter registration drives but they also acted to bring people who were not directly affected by the conditions to an understanding of what was going on. The overreaction of the police, etc. to peaceful demonstrations was what opened a lot of people’s eyes to what it was like for black people in the south. Done right, it’s a way to get some of the people in power to act. And they had to do it over and over again at great risk to themselves. Sorry, I may be out of line here; I know most people on this site know more than I do about these things. I do think that both parts are necessary and both parts require patience, dedication, perseverance, and a willingness to accept incremental steps while continuing to push forward.
Maryl1, I agree that in the sixties, the protests did help to awaken a lot of people to injustices that they had closed their minds and eyes to. There was a perfect storm in that time when the civil rights movement, the Vietnam protests and the women’s movement coalesced and even those who are slow to accept change knew that something huge and tectonic was happening in this country. Protests are the perfect tool to raise “awareness,” but without solid, long term community organizing the awareness subsides and people return to their comfort levels. There were some solid legislative gains in those days when we were blessed with a US Supreme Court that had a heart and a conscience. But we-all of us-got lazy and didn’t sustain the momentum that would have successfully countered the conservative backlash that followed the 60’s.
You and maryl1 get where I’m coming from and know that this is not something that will be resolved by anger, but by planning and coordination. I’m all for having resolve - for I truly have it, but let’s put some concrete actions with it.
Posting quotes and pictures here will do nothing more than fan flames, it is way past time to develop concrete plans to put FEAR in these ELECTED Officials who are so cavalier that they don’t worry about nothing more than protests and riots to their decisions.
As PBO continuley says and i agree, “don’t boo or get mad..VOTE”. This is they only way to change things. Don’t stop voting, run good candidates who believe in justice. Register 18yr olds NOW! March be peaceful but register and participate.
it will be pretty hard to convince the young people of Cincinnati to believe in the system…it will take quite a bit…..i remember how it was for me…when i was young….but saying that community organizing is really the only way to empower the community….demonstrations are tools to be used for public awareness…and it can be used to harness political power..but it is the nitty gritty work of community empowerment that has to happen as well….the folks of the civil rights movement did not have the power of the vote….but the early leaders used both the political power of civil disobedience on the ground (King and Co) along with doing battle in the courts(Marshall and the NAACP Defense Fund)….they were able to get success..
However as Don alluded to up thread…we continue to have to fight the same battles over and over again….
I would have been presently surprised if they did indict, I’m not outraged, what I have inside of me is a low simmer. I’ve seen this movie a thousand times and I’ve been able to convince myself that the next shooting of a black child will be the one that the justice system will finally get right. I guess now black folk and white folk are supposed to get together and hold hands and sing “we shall overcome.” A white child can go his or her entire life and not know the words to “we shall overcome.” But a black child will probably hear and sing that song many times before they reach Tamir’s age. Black people are the only people in America that have a song that speaks to the injustices that they have faced and continue to face.
I remember when the O.J. Simpson verdict was announced and its aftermath, all of a sudden everybody wanted to know what black people thought about the verdict. I remember some white friends of mine asking me what I thought. My reply was “I’m not answering that question because America never gave a fuck before about black people’s opinion about the justice system, so why ask me now about my opinion about the O.J. verdict”
The new thing now is that Policemen need sensitivity training to work in certain neighborhoods, if a policemen needs training to not shot a black child down in the street like an animal, then there is something very wrong in our society.
Agreed, 99%.
To my Only pinch of disagreement is that here in USA, if an animal is treated that way, the public outcry will demand that this Officer be relieved of his duties. The indifference and the lack of empathy when the Body has a certain and particular Pigmentation is the Most Wicked of it all.
Sunday evening the Florida State Conference of the NAACP issued a statement urging state and federal agencies to investigation Dawson’s death, claiming that it was the result of “inhumane and negligent treatment” by the hospital.
I’m going to take a break from this post because all I see is the “weeping and gnashing of teeth”, but no positive solutions to eradicate this new disease that is killing black people.
GGail, you don’t have to take a break, we can both talk about “positive solutions” and “weep and gnash teeth” and vent all at the same time. Your voice is needed and wanted.
Excuse me, this is NOT a new disease. This has been going on for centuries. I would also say that every time there is a new injury, when justice is rejected by the legal system, it is a new injury and new grief and anger are appropriate and healthy. Grief and anger become motivators to change.
Bill, you do realize that I am a BLACK woman. I should know what has and continues to be injustices upon my people. So please put your indignation back in your pocket.
What I want to see from MY people is more action - like the suggestions I’ve posted above.
We all handle our grief and moral outrage in different ways based on our life experience. I do think that the program put forth by #BlackLivesMatter can be implemented and bear fruit. And Yes, voting matters. The entire administration of Cleveland should go the next election.
How ’bout a “Voter Registration Concert to Honor Tamir Rice” to be held at The University of Ohio, starring, The OHIO Players. And every person between the ages of 18 - 35 who registers to vote or can show proof of voter registration will get in for Half Price.
THERE WILL NOT BE A CURE UNTIL JESUS CHRIST RETURNS…ALL WILL BE RESTORED AND MADE RIGHT…UNTIL THEN..WE STAND FOR INJUSTICE…HOLD ONTO OUR FAITH AND HOPE…GOD’S GOT IT!
FOLLOW THE LORD’S PATH FIRST AND LISTEN…IT IS HE WHO WINS WARS…IT IS HE THAT DECIDES THE OUTCOME…HE HAS A PLAN…WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND…WITHOUT QUESTION!..HE IS RETURNING SOONER…THAN LATER!
Does this Mayor know the meaning of Closure?
You can’t get Closure with injustice. And there is No Closure when a parent buries a child, let alone one that was taken by a killing legalized by the State.
25yr old white guy carry a gun in AA neighborhood police has no power, perfectly legal but little AA child playing with gun shot down in 2 seconds no indictment because he looked older.
White House.gov
Hello
One day, maybe not in my lifetime, but one day, people will wield the power of their vote like the weapon of Justice that it truly is
Speak it Sis.
<3
You are so right, Chips.
In an OPEN CARRY STATE,
a child was EXECUTED in less than 2 seconds.
The pivotal question for me, since the beginning of this travesty is:
HOW, did this obviously unqualified man, get a position on the Cleveland Police Department? For me, it was the key to why they have been so odious with this case. Blaming a CHILD for being MURDERED in less than 2 seconds. Nobody wanted to answer this obvious question, so they have been peddling hard at the coverup on this case, because the answer to that question would mean the loss of numerous jobs.
We have to change this! Vote like our lives depend on it, because they do. Congratulations, GGail.
Yes…even when we expected it…it still burnssssssssssssssssssssssss so deeply!!!!!
WHEN IT RAINS LIKE THIS…THE COMFORT IS THE UNDENIABLE FACT THAT GOD WILL………………HE WILL DELIVER JUSTICE!
How about people like Delrey and Jessie Jackson go into these inner cities and hold townhalls on how to make your vote count to rid your city of people who allow injustices to flourish
Getting mad or depressed doesn’t matter - what does matter is when elected officials become afraid that they will lose their high paying jobs through the vote of people who have been mistreated by the law that is sworn to protect them
it is not up to Delray or Jessie Jackson…to turn this tide of police…it is on all us…we must organize in each of our communities…we must select candidates who will deliver justice…and then hold them accountable if they don’t…..the power to change this is within us…and when i say us…i do not mean just blk folks….i mean all of us…
As leaders, Delray, Jesse, et al, should use their leadership skills and loud mouths to organize VOTER REGISTRATIONS and educate people on how to use the Power of the Vote.
I think this is what I said
BLM developed Campaign Zero in an effort to do just that…but i find that some young people do not have a lot of faith in the system and after the Grand Jury decision…who can fault them…but those of us who do believe that it is possible to win will have to work to convince them that it is possible to win…
Just thinking outside the box for a minute…hmmm
How ’bout asking LeBron James (Ohio) and Carmelo Anthony (New York) to be guess speaker at a local TownHall/Voter Registration event in these affected cities. I bet they would do it - if someone asks
That’s how you get people to come and listen to what has to be said.
it is a travesty…WE MUST Organizeeee and Vote!!!! and Organize some more……..
this comes down to voting once again….the mayor…the DA…the legislators….are all elected positions….the folks who sit in these seats pass the laws and set the policies which guide our lives…We the People must begin to see the connection…
YES WE MUST!
Huff Post Got it Right.
Congrats, GGail on your Golden :star:
So is this an appointed or elected official? In our county, the DA is elected, so when things go wrong, the buck stops at the voters who didn’t bother to show up.
Elected, I am told.
A Dem.
Cleveland needs to unseat him, Now!
How many of the people who are blocking freeways, malls, & disrupting sidewalks are registered voters? Why don’t they use their energy in a constructive manner and hold public Voting Registrations instead of laying down in the middle of the street?
Or doing both??
If it will yield a positive outcome - okay, but if it’s only causing people to tune them out, then to me, it’s like that Occupy group. What was accomplished?
I agree, if it’s like Occupy it’s a waste. I was thinking more of the sit-ins and protests during the 60’s They did voter registration drives too, but they also disrupted people’s live to draw attention to what was going on.
Now that’s what I’m talking about - thanks maryl1 - you understand where I’m coming from!!!!
We are on the same wavelength, GGail!
Maryl1, having lived through the sixties, I think a lot of people substituted protesting for solid political organizing. Yes, the protests raised awareness of injustices and yes, that did lead to greater equality under the law, but then a lot of people got bored, packed up and went home when it came time for the hard work of building a strong and enduring political base. And that gave us Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and eventually Reagan and the Bushes. We forgot to keep our eyes on the prize.
GGail, I agree with all my heart that if people don’t vote, nothing will change, even if there are protests and disruptions from now to doomsday. Protests are a great outlet for rage but they only generate anger in the powers that be, not fear. We have in our hands the power to create the system of justice we want to live under IF we organize, vote, and hold those elected officials accountable for their actions. The problem for most people is that registration drives and getting out the vote take hard work over long periods of time. People get impatient because they have been trained from birth to expect instant gratification for their efforts. The long, slow, tedious, day in and day out process of registering thousands upon thousands of people and then getting them to the polls seems like a mountain to high for many young people. But it’s the only mountain that counts and we all have to climb it.
I agree about the process of voter registration taking perseverance in our instant-gratification world. But protesting in any effective way takes time and patience too. I look back at the protesters of the 60’s. They did voter registration drives but they also acted to bring people who were not directly affected by the conditions to an understanding of what was going on. The overreaction of the police, etc. to peaceful demonstrations was what opened a lot of people’s eyes to what it was like for black people in the south. Done right, it’s a way to get some of the people in power to act. And they had to do it over and over again at great risk to themselves. Sorry, I may be out of line here; I know most people on this site know more than I do about these things. I do think that both parts are necessary and both parts require patience, dedication, perseverance, and a willingness to accept incremental steps while continuing to push forward.
Maryl1, I agree that in the sixties, the protests did help to awaken a lot of people to injustices that they had closed their minds and eyes to. There was a perfect storm in that time when the civil rights movement, the Vietnam protests and the women’s movement coalesced and even those who are slow to accept change knew that something huge and tectonic was happening in this country. Protests are the perfect tool to raise “awareness,” but without solid, long term community organizing the awareness subsides and people return to their comfort levels. There were some solid legislative gains in those days when we were blessed with a US Supreme Court that had a heart and a conscience. But we-all of us-got lazy and didn’t sustain the momentum that would have successfully countered the conservative backlash that followed the 60’s.
Bless you JackieG!
You and maryl1 get where I’m coming from and know that this is not something that will be resolved by anger, but by planning and coordination. I’m all for having resolve - for I truly have it, but let’s put some concrete actions with it.
Posting quotes and pictures here will do nothing more than fan flames, it is way past time to develop concrete plans to put FEAR in these ELECTED Officials who are so cavalier that they don’t worry about nothing more than protests and riots to their decisions.
As PBO continuley says and i agree, “don’t boo or get mad..VOTE”. This is they only way to change things. Don’t stop voting, run good candidates who believe in justice. Register 18yr olds NOW! March be peaceful but register and participate.
it will be pretty hard to convince the young people of Cincinnati to believe in the system…it will take quite a bit…..i remember how it was for me…when i was young….but saying that community organizing is really the only way to empower the community….demonstrations are tools to be used for public awareness…and it can be used to harness political power..but it is the nitty gritty work of community empowerment that has to happen as well….the folks of the civil rights movement did not have the power of the vote….but the early leaders used both the political power of civil disobedience on the ground (King and Co) along with doing battle in the courts(Marshall and the NAACP Defense Fund)….they were able to get success..
However as Don alluded to up thread…we continue to have to fight the same battles over and over again….
it can rob one’s soul…
I would have been presently surprised if they did indict, I’m not outraged, what I have inside of me is a low simmer. I’ve seen this movie a thousand times and I’ve been able to convince myself that the next shooting of a black child will be the one that the justice system will finally get right. I guess now black folk and white folk are supposed to get together and hold hands and sing “we shall overcome.” A white child can go his or her entire life and not know the words to “we shall overcome.” But a black child will probably hear and sing that song many times before they reach Tamir’s age. Black people are the only people in America that have a song that speaks to the injustices that they have faced and continue to face.
I remember when the O.J. Simpson verdict was announced and its aftermath, all of a sudden everybody wanted to know what black people thought about the verdict. I remember some white friends of mine asking me what I thought. My reply was “I’m not answering that question because America never gave a fuck before about black people’s opinion about the justice system, so why ask me now about my opinion about the O.J. verdict”
The new thing now is that Policemen need sensitivity training to work in certain neighborhoods, if a policemen needs training to not shot a black child down in the street like an animal, then there is something very wrong in our society.
Amen, Don !
Agreed, 99%.
To my Only pinch of disagreement is that here in USA, if an animal is treated that way, the public outcry will demand that this Officer be relieved of his duties. The indifference and the lack of empathy when the Body has a certain and particular Pigmentation is the Most Wicked of it all.
Well lookee here - There are some people who do think like I do…
The NAACP’s Calhoun-Liberty County Branch says it plans a town hall meeting on Wednesday, December 30.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fla-agency-to-probe-womans-collapse-in-handcuffs-at-hospital/
Sunday evening the Florida State Conference of the NAACP issued a statement urging state and federal agencies to investigation Dawson’s death, claiming that it was the result of “inhumane and negligent treatment” by the hospital.
I’m going to take a break from this post because all I see is the “weeping and gnashing of teeth”, but no positive solutions to eradicate this new disease that is killing black people.
GGail, you don’t have to take a break, we can both talk about “positive solutions” and “weep and gnash teeth” and vent all at the same time. Your voice is needed and wanted.
Don, this thread is getting too much for me to handle
Excuse me, this is NOT a new disease. This has been going on for centuries. I would also say that every time there is a new injury, when justice is rejected by the legal system, it is a new injury and new grief and anger are appropriate and healthy. Grief and anger become motivators to change.
Bill, you do realize that I am a BLACK woman. I should know what has and continues to be injustices upon my people. So please put your indignation back in your pocket.
What I want to see from MY people is more action - like the suggestions I’ve posted above.
We all handle our grief and moral outrage in different ways based on our life experience. I do think that the program put forth by #BlackLivesMatter can be implemented and bear fruit. And Yes, voting matters. The entire administration of Cleveland should go the next election.
How ’bout a “Voter Registration Concert to Honor Tamir Rice” to be held at The University of Ohio, starring, The OHIO Players. And every person between the ages of 18 - 35 who registers to vote or can show proof of voter registration will get in for Half Price.
Think people, Think!
THERE WILL NOT BE A CURE UNTIL JESUS CHRIST RETURNS…ALL WILL BE RESTORED AND MADE RIGHT…UNTIL THEN..WE STAND FOR INJUSTICE…HOLD ONTO OUR FAITH AND HOPE…GOD’S GOT IT!
I’m not waiting around until a second coming of Jesus. Jesus is here in this moment and moving us to meet injustice NOW.
FOLLOW THE LORD’S PATH FIRST AND LISTEN…IT IS HE WHO WINS WARS…IT IS HE THAT DECIDES THE OUTCOME…HE HAS A PLAN…WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND…WITHOUT QUESTION!..HE IS RETURNING SOONER…THAN LATER!
You know neither the day nor the hour.
OMG… The Cleveland Mayor just said that now the Tamir Rice family has ” closure ” on the ” criminal aspect ” of this.
Good Grief….how does the family have ” closure ” Mr. Mayor when your city just poured salt in to their open wound ? How ?
Does this Mayor know the meaning of Closure?
You can’t get Closure with injustice. And there is No Closure when a parent buries a child, let alone one that was taken by a killing legalized by the State.
I am seething with anger and that is far, far, far from the person I strive to be, so this is my only post for today ….
bb tomorrow …
#TrustBarack
A child playing by himself and no one else around him was in danger until the cops showed up.
http://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview
Now tell me again that ALL LIVES MATTER. That piece of crap D.A. had no intention of bringing any charges.
GA TODville.
Hate the coverup conducted by MSM.
No pushback on:
(From Chips’ twitter timeline):
And this…
25yr old white guy carry a gun in AA neighborhood police has no power, perfectly legal but little AA child playing with gun shot down in 2 seconds no indictment because he looked older.
I am so heartsick. I do not understand how a person can live with themselves coming to the conclusion that it is okay to take a life.