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This and That

President Obama meets with members of the Governors Association Executive Committee, including Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, in the Roosevelt Room at the White House, December 4

(Judging by other pics, PBO was looking at Scott Walker in this one …. me likes the ‘four more years’ grin)

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Wednesday:

10:50: President Obama delivers remarks to members of the Business Roundtable and answers questions

3:05: Delivers remarks at the 2012 Tribal Nations Conference at the Department of Interior

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Kevin Drum (Mother Jones): Here is PPP on their finding that 49 percent of Republicans think ACORN stole the election for Obama….

This is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn’t exist anymore.

…. In other news, they found that 25 percent of Americans claim to have an opinion about the Panetta-Burns plan, which they just made up. Fun times.

More on the, eh, Panetta-Burns plan at the Washington Post

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Senate.gov

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Charles Pierce: …. the senior members of the Republican party reminded us today that, no matter how much lipstick they slather on the pig in order to fool the more credulous members of the courtier media, the heart of their party is still black and withered and smells of death and corruption.

…. This is what prevails when you scratch down beneath the pretty surface — a party so completely fking unhinged that it thinks that a treaty on the rights of disabled people is some sort of one-world plot to steal the liberty of a third-rate moron like Jim Inhofe. …. They simply do not care. Their prejudices and their paranoia must have pride of place over any help to be given to the less fortunate among us….

…. I can hardly wait for the next Beltway hummer in which Rubio is promoted as “the changing face of the Republican party.” They can’t stand up to the lunatic base because the lunatic base is all they have.

Full post here

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TPM

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Steve Benen: Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole made a rare Senate appearance this morning, sitting in a wheelchair just off the floor so that members would have to see him as they entered the chamber. Why? Because they were poised to vote on ratification of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities, and Dole hoped to send a message.

It didn’t work. The Senate killed the treaty this afternoon, with a final vote of 61 to 38, which seems like a lopsided majority, but which fell short of the two-thirds necessary for ratification. Eight Republicans broke ranks and joined Democrats in support of the treaty, but the clear majority of the Senate GOP voted to block it.

Full post here

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Wey hey, one of Reuters photos of the year:

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Lines of the day ….

Charles Pierce: “Mike Huckabee …. the de-bloated god-bothering whackaloon who is occasionally mistaken for a nice guy.”

Bob Costas responds to Fox News attacks: “Sometimes The Quality Of The Thinking Of Those Who Oppose You Speaks For Itself.” (See video at Media Matters)

…. Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades said as soon as Ryan and Romney started campaigning together, during his daily calls with Romney “it was like talking to your buddy who just met a girl and is giddy.” Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said when he saw the chemistry of Ryan and Romney together, he thought, “it was like a bromance.” (Lynn Sweet)

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173 Responses to “This and That”


  1. 1 maryl1
    December 4, 2025 at 6:38 pm

    Okay first?

    • 2 susanne
      December 4, 2025 at 6:40 pm

      and congrats to you!

    • 3 dudette9t9
      December 4, 2025 at 6:47 pm

      First, you are! Congratulations on your Fresh First, maryl1 :-)

      • 4 maryl1
        December 4, 2025 at 6:48 pm

        It’s hard to trust once you’ve been betrayed, you know.

        Thanks :)

        • 5 vcprezofan2
          December 4, 2025 at 6:57 pm

          Well, it’s holding up quite well this time. The first time I got knocked out that way I was quite ‘shocked’. :lol: Persistence is the way to go, Maryl - well done!

          • 6 maryl1
            December 4, 2025 at 7:14 pm

            I had actually posted another line which I don’t see accusing my computer of betraying me, not anyone here. Just didn’t want any misunderstanding!

      • 9 maryl1
        December 4, 2025 at 6:55 pm

        WooooooHooooooo! I like that look!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chips you’re making it really hard to concentrate on my report cards - thanks! :) (They aren’t due until Friday anyway…)

        • December 4, 2025 at 6:56 pm

          Friday’s good - you have plenty of time Mary!!

        • 11 vcprezofan2
          December 4, 2025 at 7:00 pm

          It would be really funny (I have an odd sense of humour) if Pres O’s name turned up in a couple of sections on one or two of your report cards! They all get read and signed by principal/vice principal, right?

          CHIIIIPS! Don’t you think it’s a bit early for the TOD snowfall? :roll:

          • 12 vcprezofan2
            December 4, 2025 at 7:03 pm

            Also, Madam Mayoress, if you have deemed it time for the TOD snow to fall (without consulting the other members of TOD council) couldn’t you at least have started it on a more Christmas-y or more seasonal post? (Am beginning to think Amk has a point with his ‘tyrant’ comments, I may have to add ‘dictator-ess’ to his list.

          • 20 maryl1
            December 4, 2025 at 7:12 pm

            Haha! That would be funny! My principal is a moderate Republican who is disgusted with his party. He hated Romney and feared Ryan. I have no doubt he voted for our President! And with the way the Republicans are trying to tear about our public education system, I’m pretty sure he’s voting Democrat from now on!

            “President Obama would be proud of your child’s progress” “President Obama suggests your child spends more time reading at home.” Great!

            • 21 carolmaewy
              December 4, 2025 at 7:21 pm

              Congrats on being #1

            • 22 vcprezofan2
              December 4, 2025 at 7:22 pm

              If he has a sense of humour, you could enter such a comment on your last report (having a real report for said student at hand, of course) and submit it. Would be a way to check if he reads them all before signing. [Don’t listen to me, Maryl. I tend to (sometimes) be a trouble maker much like my sister, Chips.]

              • 23 theo67
                December 4, 2025 at 7:39 pm

                You really ARE a trouble-maker, VC… tsk, tsk. ;)

                • 24 vcprezofan2
                  December 4, 2025 at 7:50 pm

                  Not at all, Theo; only thinking to brighten the principal’s boredom at having to read all those ‘smarmy’ comments, some of them couched in flowery language that does not at all describe the student’s progress/performance.

                  • 25 theo67
                    December 4, 2025 at 7:51 pm

                    Mmmm-hmmmm…

                    • 26 vcprezofan2
                      December 4, 2025 at 7:55 pm

                      Really. The presence of the President’s name in that medium could snap him out of a zombie state that occurs when you are doing the same thing for a long period. He might even thank Maryl. :lol:

        • 27 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
          December 4, 2025 at 7:23 pm

          Congrats on 1st Mary!!

  2. 28 maryl1
    December 4, 2025 at 6:39 pm

    Or are you lying AGAIN, computer????

  3. 29 susanne
    December 4, 2025 at 6:39 pm

    aloha chips and tods! :)

  4. 30 Proud Former White House Intern
    December 4, 2025 at 6:39 pm

    That and this,

  5. 31 yardarm756
    December 4, 2025 at 6:40 pm

    Close. Congrats maryl1

  6. 33 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 6:46 pm

  7. 37 yardarm756
    December 4, 2025 at 6:48 pm

    The senate “hedge hogs” are a batch of ‘mofo’s’! I guess no one in their states has any disabilities. grrrr! :-(

    • 38 dudette9t9
      December 4, 2025 at 7:48 pm

      I’m with you, yardarm. GOP coddles the rich, screws the vulnerable. :mad:

      They underestimated us though. The disabled aren’t voiceless anymore. Like John Kerry tweeted earlier today: “We will keep fighting till we win for disabled, vets cc”

      https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/276033324571582465

    • 39 utaustinliberal
      December 4, 2025 at 9:15 pm

      It’s breathtakingly shocking that they would vote against a disability bill and this just proves that there are no moderates in the GOP. They cite Rubio and Coburn as sane forward thinking faces of the future. Nope. They all reside in the cavemen era.

  8. 41 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 6:56 pm

    • 42 vcprezofan2
      December 4, 2025 at 7:48 pm

      I saw this link in one of the comments at JuanitJean’s site and wondered if anyone here collects White House Christmas ornaments

      http://www.whitehousechristmasornament.com/

  9. 43 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    December 4, 2025 at 6:58 pm

    Evil. Just Evil. Period …

    • 44 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
      December 4, 2025 at 6:59 pm

      If they are willing to block a treaty protecting the disabled, then you can just imagine how much more harm they are going to try to cause if they are not rendered truly the minority party in Jan 2013 and kept that way for a long, long time.

      • 45 dudette9t9
        December 4, 2025 at 7:01 pm

        Exactly! These people have no honor and they have no interest in doing ANYTHING to help people other than their rich benefactors.

        • 46 ewok2
          December 4, 2025 at 7:08 pm

          The senate voted 61 for and 38 against, yet the bill failed to pass. The Minority is ruling the Majority, they get what they wanted. This is not Democracy.

          • 47 dudette9t9
            December 4, 2025 at 7:12 pm

            THIS!

          • 48 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
            December 4, 2025 at 7:22 pm

            Exactly.

          • 49 jovie141
            December 4, 2025 at 7:24 pm

            Treaty always required 67 votes or 2/3rds vote.

            • 50 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
              December 4, 2025 at 7:48 pm

              Oh, I know that jovie - the point I’m trying to make is that Senator Reid must change the filibuster rules because if that many Rs are willing to vote against something as profoundly just as this treaty - i.e., something that should have passed with 0 Rs voting against it, just as the DoD bill did today - then it is obvious they are going to be just as obstructive as they have been since 20 Jan 2009.

      • 51 prettyfoot58
        December 4, 2025 at 7:35 pm

        Thissssssssssss!!!

  10. 52 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 7:00 pm

    Hey, it’s snowing in here! Beautiful Chips!

  11. 62 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    December 4, 2025 at 7:00 pm

    I see Chips is in the Holiday snow storm spirit :)

    • December 4, 2025 at 7:01 pm

      You win the snowy award Bob, the first to notice!!

      Actually, I better switch it off now, when I turned it on last year it mucked up the blog for a bunch of people whose browsers couldn’t handle it!!

      • 64 dudette9t9
        December 4, 2025 at 7:08 pm

        AHEM! *cough, cough* Might you turn your attention to the timestamp on my music video?

        • 65 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
          December 4, 2025 at 7:09 pm

          :D :D :D

          • 66 carolmaewy
            December 4, 2025 at 7:30 pm

            May you look for my post about getting a Holiday card today on an earlier post. Think it was under the Bloomberg heads up post. About 1:45pm ET! (Smile)

            • 67 dudette9t9
              December 4, 2025 at 7:59 pm

              Cool carol! http://theobamadiary.com/2012/12/04/heads-up-bloomberg-interview-with-president-obama-1230-et/#comment-581178

              What does the card look like? I haven’t received mine yet :-(
              ————

              Glad you mentioned this too: “Yes he does thank his volunteers. Those many calls to CO helped turn it blue. We’re out of reach in WY. Not to brag too much, but he also called volunteers, including me, from Air Force One, just to encourage all of us in the last few weeks of campaign and what his vision was for his second term. Relating this because so many posters on other sights and pundits say he never thanks anyone and doesn’t reach out to people. I’m as ready to help now as I was in June when I started making calls…”

              • 68 carolmaewy
                December 4, 2025 at 9:26 pm

                It has Bo on the front on a really snowy day in front of the White House. Very much like the photo of the Pres and girls just posted above.

      • 69 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
        December 4, 2025 at 7:08 pm

        :D :D :D

        Great picture! Thanks Chips.

        Ah, yes, I remember last year’s ‘snow storm’ did cause some disgruntlement ;)

      • 70 dudette9t9
        December 4, 2025 at 7:08 pm

        Ohhhh… I see my prize. How could I have doubted you! :-D

      • 71 theo67
        December 4, 2025 at 7:09 pm

        I wish it didn’t cause technical issues. It felt like Christmas for a minute there, Chips (hailing all the way from California here)… :(

        • December 4, 2025 at 7:15 pm

          Theoooooooo. Okay, I’ll use to until someone tells me it’s blowing up their computer. But, well, is it not a little early?? :???:

          • 73 theo67
            December 4, 2025 at 7:26 pm

            Thanks! It’s never too early for a snowy Christmas! :)

            • 74 vcprezofan2
              December 4, 2025 at 8:15 pm

              Easy enough for you to say, Theo, from way over and down there in Cally-fornie. After all, you won’t have to shovel the stuff! Snowiny Christmases still work if the snow falls on December 24, which is my personal preference.

              • 75 theo67
                December 4, 2025 at 8:33 pm

                You’re perfectly welcome to stock up the fridge, put the fireplace on, and hole up inside for the next three weeks! Problem solved.

                • 76 vcprezofan2
                  December 4, 2025 at 8:46 pm

                  That’s definitely my personal chosen response to winter - a very sensible response I’ve always thought! However, can’t hole up inside much as I would like to, because I’m suddenly being called to work more frequently. I was in today, and they have already called me for tomorrow (couldn’t even wait until morning to do so). I got called three days last week too, so you see all these southern prayers for snow, snow and more snow are of concern to me. If I could work a deal where I ship it all to you prayerful southerners with a special delivery fixed up for LisaLoves, I would have no complains. So, go easy on the prayers, snow is mostly pretty when you can admire it and then ignore it.

  12. 79 CTGirl
    December 4, 2025 at 7:02 pm

    Busted!

    The cranky old Senator has whipped himself into a lather over Susan Rice’s televised statements about the attack on the Benghazi consulate, accusing her of misleading the public because she did not immediately cite al Qaeda or a planned terrorist attack. She made those statements on September 16. And yet on September 22, McCain himself voted for a resolution that described the affair thus:

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/12/mccain-on-benghazi-september-22.html

  13. 81 jovie141
    December 4, 2025 at 7:04 pm

    Senate passes $631B defense policy bill 98-0

    By Jeremy Herb and Ramsey Cox
    The National Defense Authorization Act passed the Senate unanimously after being debated for five days.

  14. 85 yardarm756
    December 4, 2025 at 7:04 pm

    I see it’s starting to snow. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas. There. I said it.

  15. 92 Nena20409
    December 4, 2025 at 7:10 pm

    I love the snow falling down on the new post. Nice Touch.

    This site never stops from creating little ways to keep it especially interesting and of course exciting.

    With Love, by Chipsticks, no doubt.

    I am tickled pink again.

  16. 93 Nena20409
    December 4, 2025 at 7:12 pm

    During Spring, some Green Leaves? During St Patrick’s Day, Green Beer or the little Green people that Amk loves so? I love the snow. It is just lovely. Snow flakes next? Just lovely.

  17. 94 ewok2
    December 4, 2025 at 7:13 pm

    Where is this snow on my keyboard coming from?

    • 95 Nena20409
      December 4, 2025 at 7:15 pm

      Magically engineered by Ms. Chipsticks. Are not the snow just a lovely touch? I love them.

      • December 4, 2025 at 7:17 pm

        Ah no Nena, I can’t claim I engineered the snow!!! :-) It’s a feature WordPress provide this time of year!

        • 97 Nena20409
          December 4, 2025 at 7:21 pm

          Would it all right if I just continued to believe that Your Lovely fingers engineered the snow fall? I enjoy it better that way. May I, pretty please…..? Thank you in advance…..hmmmm. OK.

  18. 98 Nena20409
    December 4, 2025 at 7:17 pm

    Bo…..playing in the Thick snow is just lovely. Just beautiful.

  19. 99 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 7:19 pm

  20. 109 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    December 4, 2025 at 7:20 pm

    Wondering when the #NEWSTAINERS, pundidiots and emoprogs are gonna realize that PBO hasn’t even begun to bring the hurt to them that he is now fully empowered to do. Never forget, the sequester is the law of the land …

    #FORWARD

    • 110 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
      December 4, 2025 at 7:38 pm

  21. 111 andogriff
    December 4, 2025 at 7:21 pm

    Loving the snow, Ms Chips!! Please keep it coming!

  22. 127 GGail
    December 4, 2025 at 7:23 pm

    Good West Coast late afternoon Chipsticks!

    I just logged on and haven’t had a chance to read or see anything….but THE SNOW!!!!

    WHOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!! Thanks for letting it snow again :-)

    Now, I’m off to see and read…..bbl

  23. 128 gatodicima
    December 4, 2025 at 7:24 pm

    Good Lord, Chips, Could they be any more offensive? The slime factor is huge…

    Gato
    http://www.partyandsoul.wordpress.com

  24. 130 jovie141
    December 4, 2025 at 7:29 pm

    Wednesday Dec. 5, 2012
    Previous
    Next
    9:15 AM
    Obama and Biden receive the presidential daily briefing.
    10:50 AM
    Obama delivers remarks to members of the Business Roundtable and answers questions.
    12:30 PM
    Carney briefs the press.
    3:05 PM
    Obama delivers remarks at the 2012 Tribal Nations Conference at the Department of Interior.

  25. 131 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 7:35 pm

  26. 135 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 7:36 pm

  27. 140 prettyfoot58
    December 4, 2025 at 7:42 pm

    love the snowwww…Let it Snowwwwwwwwww!!

  28. 143 jovie141
    December 4, 2025 at 7:43 pm

    Bennet accepts DSCC chairmanship

    Alexandra Jaffe - 12/04/12 01:04 PM ET
    The Colorado senator acknowledged the difficulty he’ll face in protecting the Democratic majority.…

  29. 144 FiredUpInCA
    December 4, 2025 at 7:47 pm

    “The Obama Coalition is composed primarily of moderates and liberals, with slightly more, 42%, identifying as a moderate and 40% as a liberal. Another 14% call themselves conservatives,” Third Way says.

    “According to our poll, nearly three-fifths of the president’s support came from self-described moderates and conservatives.

    “This breakdown tracks closely with exit poll data, which shows that 42.7% of Obama voters were liberal, 45.6% were moderate, and 11.8% were conservative.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/12/04/obama-third-way-survey-liberals-moderates/1744845/

  30. December 4, 2025 at 7:48 pm

    The full Bloomberg interview:

  31. 148 sherijr
    December 4, 2025 at 7:51 pm

    Aww Chips you made it snow.. so lovely ~ Season’s Greetings :)

  32. 149 prettyfoot58
    December 4, 2025 at 7:53 pm

    One Of My Favorites…….

    strokes a longing in my heart..

    • 150 anniebella
      December 4, 2025 at 8:27 pm

      Luther was one great singer. I love this song.

    • 151 dudette9t9
      December 4, 2025 at 8:31 pm

      Okay, now you’re gonna make me cry! Miss my Luther soooooo….

    • 152 vcprezofan2
      December 4, 2025 at 8:35 pm

      Hey, PF, I couldn’t go any further than 2:15 even though I Iove Luther’s voice and the emotion he puts into his music (the ones I know). I like this but …… (and this is not at all a criticism - if anything it’s a compliment that LV’s doing too good a job here).

  33. 153 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    December 4, 2025 at 7:54 pm

    http://twitter.com/rollingingraves/statuses/276120993490153473
    :D :D :D :D

  34. 154 FiredUpInCA
    December 4, 2025 at 7:58 pm

    Olive Garden’s parent company is the latest to learn that it does not pay to mix politics with business:

    “The restaurant company that owns the Olive Garden and Red Lobster chains said Tuesday that its bottom line is suffering in part because because of opposition to President Obama’s health care law.

    Darden Restaurants has rejected the requirement that employers provide health insurance to full-time workers and said it would cut employees’ hours to dodge the mandate under the Affordable Care Act, The Hill notes. That would force low-paid part-time workers to buy their own insurance or be covered by government-run exchanges staring in 2014.

    Darden was just ranked among the 12 biggest companies paying workers the least.

    The company cited several factors for a steep drop in business and earnings during the second quarter, including “financially stretched consumers,” failed promotions, Hurricane Sandy and the purchase of Yard House. But it also noted a possible backlash from Americans boycotting its 1,994 restaurants.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/04/darden-restaurants-obamacare-criticism-earnings-backlash/1746979/

    They join Papa John’s and Applebees in the Turn-off-half-your-customers-like-Willard-did-with-voters club:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/12/04/papa-johns-applebees-and-others-pay-huge-price-for-anti-obamacare-politicking/

    • 155 amk for obama
      December 4, 2025 at 8:09 pm

  35. 156 prettyfoot58
    December 4, 2025 at 8:02 pm

    Much better version!

  36. 158 amk for obama
    December 4, 2025 at 8:06 pm

  37. 160 amk for obama
    December 4, 2025 at 8:10 pm

    Hey blog tyrant. How come there is no snowfall down in the dumps here at the bottom ?

  38. 162 jovie141
    December 4, 2025 at 8:11 pm

    So, I flip on the Ed Show, and it says breaking news, house Dems get 150+ signatures to force vote on middle class tax cuts.
    Typically Misleading???

  39. 163 prettyfoot58
    December 4, 2025 at 8:14 pm

    i see Pa Senator Toomey is lockstep and voted against the Disabilities bill….

    what are we going to do here in PA…we need to chip away and replace some of these seats…

  40. 164 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 8:14 pm

  41. 165 amk for obama
    December 4, 2025 at 8:21 pm

    A police officer stops a blonde for speeding and asks her very nicely if he could see her license.

    She replies in a huff, “I wish you guys would get your act together. Just yesterday you take away my license and then today you expect me to show it to you!”

  42. 167 amk for obama
    December 4, 2025 at 8:21 pm

    Son: “Dad whats the difference between confident and confidential?”

    Dad: “Hmm. You are my son, I am confident of that. Your friend Timmy is also my son, that’s confidential!”

  43. 170 amk for obama
    December 4, 2025 at 8:23 pm

    A lady who was known as Churchill’s main rival in parliament was giving a speech. Churchill, with his usual enthusiasm for his rival, dozed off while the lady was speaking. She stopped her speech and awoke Sir Winston by yelling, “Mr. Churchill, must you sleep while I talk?” Churchill sleepily replied, “No, ma’am. I do so purely by choice.”

  44. 172 dudette9t9
    December 4, 2025 at 8:38 pm

    Good for Bob Costas!


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