113 Responses to “The Conversation”


  1. 1 Almablanca (@Vetivera24)
    November 27, 2025 at 7:43 pm

    Wish the MSM could be more supportive. Can;t understand ’em

    • 2 Nena20409
      November 27, 2025 at 7:45 pm

      Congrats for your Gold,

    • 4 Almablanca (@Vetivera24)
      November 27, 2025 at 7:45 pm

      Great usable summary UT!

    • 5 99ts
      November 27, 2025 at 7:57 pm

      They shill for the GOP - that is all there is to understand. They tried to defeat the President in 2012 - now they try to do what the GOP in congress could not do - kill health care for all but those who have the “important jobs in life”. When the old media collapses under their corporate debt - which will happen when they run out of real workers to retrench - they will learn about life without employer insurance - and be screaming for single payer health care.

  2. 6 isonprize
    November 27, 2025 at 7:46 pm

    THIS is hilarious!!

  3. 7 Nena20409
    November 27, 2025 at 7:51 pm

    JEB, Barbara Bush told Us early this year:

    We have Had ENOUGH of the Bushes.

    JEB, Barbs was right. STFU.

  4. 8 utaustinliberal
    November 27, 2025 at 7:55 pm

    • 9 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 8:06 pm

      • 10 pkayden
        November 27, 2025 at 8:30 pm

        Never heard about this faux controversy until just reading about it here. I guess it hasn’t caught on yet in the blogosphere (thankfully).

    • 11 globalcitizenlinda
      November 27, 2025 at 9:30 pm

      my mind is not up to it tonight;

      based on the article, two things stand out as to WHY - cost reduction & security of the mission;

      Could you please formulate something/tweet to remind these perpetual liars that the re-location of the Vatican Embassy also solves 2 problems that republicans have spent months obsessing over (a) security (per Benghazi) and (b) cost-reduction (per debt arguments).

  5. 12 daisydem
    November 27, 2025 at 7:57 pm

    My pumpkin martini comment did not make it: was at the end of the last post. Sad.

    • 13 dotster3
      November 27, 2025 at 8:00 pm

      I appreciated it. It started out so sad—-no pumpkin pie——and then!—-it turned out so happy!—-the Pumpkin Martini Solution!

      • 14 daisydem
        November 27, 2025 at 8:08 pm

        Yes, I am making myself one tomorrow;,shall I make two? One for you??!

        • 15 dotster3
          November 27, 2025 at 8:15 pm

          Sounds good. Are you going to be in pourable distance of me—-like, in Indy? If not, I’ll just have to dream about it.

          • 16 daisydem
            November 27, 2025 at 8:33 pm

            No where near Indy dotster3: this one shall just have to be a cyber-martini. Maybe someday we shall all meet … would that not be awesome? And Liberal Librarian can bring the drinks for everyone (is he in listening range?)! Lol.

    • 17 99ts
      November 27, 2025 at 8:06 pm

      Bring it over daisydem

      I love pumpkin pie! But my sister is hosting and she does not like much that is pumpkin. We are having yellow cake with choc icing and coconut creme pie. That is fine; I like both. Since hubby and son are also not inclined to pumpkin, and since I do not need to consume an entire pumpkin pie solo (hear the rationalization in my discourse): I bought myself the makings for pumpkin martinis! The taste of pumpkin pie plus a little extra!

  6. 21 Nena20409
    November 27, 2025 at 7:57 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving TODable TODs

    Enjoy your Feasts. I hope your Thanksgiving celebrations are filled with Joy, Love and Togetherness.

    Love & Peace to you all.

  7. 22 Vicki
    November 27, 2025 at 7:57 pm

    I’d like to think the attacks on the ACA will fade in time but the RW still complains about and plots against SS and Medicare. They have zero chance of stopping any of these programs but their zeal doesn’t diminish. Crazy. no other explanation, is there?

  8. 23 dotster3
    November 27, 2025 at 7:59 pm

    • 24 isonprize
      November 27, 2025 at 10:20 pm

      I’m surprised at Alabama and Louisiana on the map. It would appear that these two states have a lower % of uninsured than the rest of the south. The rest of the map is pretty much what I expected. I wonder how the ‘count’ was done?

  9. 25 Liberal Librarian
    November 27, 2025 at 8:02 pm

    Ok, Sasha just earned cool points with me. She’s wearing Doc Martins in the pictures in the previous threads. She’s gonna be a punk rock grrl.

    • 26 daisydem
      November 27, 2025 at 8:14 pm

      I showed her Doc Martins to my son; his are on order but not as cool as hers. Course he is a 39 yr. old male. He normally wears Clark’s Desert Boots.

  10. 27 99ts
    November 27, 2025 at 8:10 pm

    Someone posted a link to PBO and family at the foodbank on the last thread - clicking on the “slideshow” link gives a great collection of pictures of what is happening today (actually yesterday in my world - very time confusing)

    http://www.wtvq.com/news/national/story/Obama-hands-out-Thanksgiving-goodies-to-needy-in/V2P-VEDVnk6Nm5kBsM0LSg.cspx

  11. 30 amk for obama
    November 27, 2025 at 8:10 pm

  12. 31 amk for obama
    November 27, 2025 at 8:23 pm

    Looks like goals galore on Wednesday’s championship games.

    Wed 27 Nov 2025 - Champions League

    Bayer 04 Leverkusen 0 - 5 Man Utd
    Shakhtar Donetsk 4 - 0 Real Sociedad
    Juventus 3 - 1 FC Copenhagen
    Real Madrid 4 - 1 Galatasaray
    Paris Saint Germain 2 - 1 Olympiakos
    RSC Anderlecht 2 - 3 Benfica
    CSKA Moscow 1 - 3 Bayern Munich
    Man City 4 - 2 Viktoria Plzen

    So bt is doing the happy dance with danny?

  13. 32 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
    November 27, 2025 at 8:24 pm

    Know that most TODers are busy preparing for tomorrow’s festivities, but found it interesting that @DavidPlouffe “favorited” this tweet from CNN.

  14. 34 Ladyhawke
    November 27, 2025 at 8:28 pm

    NORM ORNSTEIN WILL BE ON THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW TONIGHT

    Tonight’s guests include:

    Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of the book, “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism”

    —————————————————-

    1) Republicans Have No Interest in Fixing—or Even Understanding—Obamacare

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/republicans-have-no-interest-in-fixing-or-even-understanding-obamacare/281513/

    2) The Unprecedented—and Contemptible—Attempts to Sabotage Obamacare

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/washington-inside-out/the-unprecedented-and-contemptible-attempts-to-sabotage-obamacare-20130724

    ——————————————————

  15. 35 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
    November 27, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    tee hee

    • 36 pkayden
      November 27, 2025 at 8:33 pm

      Very fitting because he was nothing but a good looking bobblehead. It was so insulting to Ted Kennedy that someone as lightweight as Brown replaced him in the Senate. Thank goodness for Elizabeth Warren.

  16. 37 Ladyhawke
    November 27, 2025 at 8:31 pm

    VIDEO: Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann Explain Why Congress is Failing Us

    April 26, 2025

    ————————————-

    Political scholars Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann tell Bill that Congress’ failure to make progress on gun control last week — despite support for background checks from 90 percent of the American public — is symptomatic of a legislative branch reduced to dysfunction, partisan ravings and obstruction.

    A year ago, the two — who had strong reputations as non-partisan analysts – decided to speak truth to power with their book It’s Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided with the New Politics of Extremism. In it, they argue that congressional gridlock is mostly the fault of right wing radicals within the Republican Party who engage in “policy hostage-taking” to extend their political war against the president.

    What’s more, Ornstein and Mann say, the mainstream media and media fact-checkers add to the problem by indulging in “false equivalency” — pretending both parties are equally to blame.

    ——————————————-

    http://billmoyers.com/segment/norman-ornstein-and-thomas-mann-explain-why-congress-is-failing-us/

    • 38 99ts
      November 27, 2025 at 8:50 pm

      Given that it is the media that continually give space to & support the GOP and its extremism - it is truly frustrating that the truth is continually hidden from a large % of the american people

  17. 39 Dakota
    November 27, 2025 at 8:32 pm

    My daughter is spending Thanksgiving in Puerto Rico with the fiance. We’ll be going to our friends house for dinner. My contribution will be sweet potato pie. Whenever we go elsewhere for Thanksgiving dinner, I always cook something at home…hubby’s gotta have those leftovers!

    Wishing my TOD Family a safe, happy and blessed holiday. Much love to you all!

    • 40 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
      November 27, 2025 at 8:42 pm

      Dakota!

      Glad to see you here. I love the American southwest, New Mexico is my favorite state.

      Check out these gorgeous photos of AZ and NM (waving to DF, Jackie4Obama, Lockewasright, Magapie and any others I’ve missed):

      • 41 Dakota
        November 27, 2025 at 8:52 pm

        Happy Thanksgiving Arapaho! White Sands is an incredible place. Never had a thought to go there, but we were visiting friends in Las Cruces and they took us there. New Mexico is an interesting place to say the least. Hubby always wanted to live in the Southwest so that’s pretty much why were here. I’m enjoying living here.

        • 42 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
          November 27, 2025 at 9:01 pm

          When I was a teenager my family went on a “National Parks” tour one summer.

          I insisted on White Sands, and loved it. Gypsum sand sounded so romantic and exotic to me. I’ve been back since, and kids “snowboard” on the dunes. Great fun.

          BTW, my avatar is from NatGeo of a storm over Las Cruces.

          Love NM cuisine and the blend of Mexican/Native cultures.

    • 43 carolyn
      November 27, 2025 at 8:45 pm

      Understand about the leftovers….I’ve done the same thing. Cooked a small meal at home for us to have later, when we go somewhere else. This year, it’s at our house, as it was last year. I fix the turkey, dressing, mashed potatoes, and gravy. My daughter brings a couple of veggie casseroles and rolls, Jeff’s mom brings oyster dressing, and Jody, their aunt, brings her absolutely scrumptious pies. Jeff…our son-in-law fixes the whipped cream….somehow it’s better than any other. Then, I get to set the table, something I love to do, and already did today…..I’m using Christmas dishes this year since it’s so late. House is clean, table is set, turkey is fresh…..so tomorrow will be easy.
      Blessings to all of you. Our son and family come Friday, so my cup runneth over.

    • 46 daisydem
      November 27, 2025 at 8:45 pm

      The late night Thanksgiving turkey sandwich with a glass of chardonnay is the best part of Thanksgiving! And maybe a side of the cranberry sauce or relish ….

  18. 48 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
    November 27, 2025 at 8:35 pm

    A few Thanksgiving tweets:

    • 49 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
      November 27, 2025 at 8:37 pm

      One more…

  19. 50 dotster3
    November 27, 2025 at 8:36 pm

    Not quite as the media has been predicting

  20. 51 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    November 27, 2025 at 8:38 pm

    #TrustBarack

    • 52 99ts
      November 27, 2025 at 9:11 pm

      Just went to the orange for the last time - what a racist bunch they turned into - cannot believe what I started reading.

    • 53 jacquelineoboomer
      November 27, 2025 at 9:32 pm

      Wonder if Boehner and his family participated in a service project the day before Thanksgiving, as our President and his family did.

      Never mind - I know the answer.

      Maybe Paul Ryan?

      Never mind - we don’t need a reminder of his big campaign trip to wash clean pots at the food kitchen, cameras blazing.

      • 54 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        November 27, 2025 at 9:38 pm

        ;)

        Boehner’s been drunk all day and Ryan … who knows …. probably spent hours looking at himself in the mirror curling a 2 lb dumbbell ….

      • 57 99ts
        November 27, 2025 at 9:57 pm

        Like Palin’s killing of the turkey’s video, Ryan will forever be known for washing the clean pots and pans - they excel with the “kindness of the season” - hahahaha

        The extra boost given to those who saw the President at the foodbank will stay with them forever - priceless - absolutely priceless. They probably could have walked away empty handed and still had their best ever thanksgiving

  21. 59 dotster3
    November 27, 2025 at 8:55 pm

    OK, this looks bad

    • 60 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
      November 27, 2025 at 9:05 pm

      Nope.

      Just typical Wednesday before Thanksgiving. Everyone here KNOWS that today is the worst traffic day of the year. Second worst is Halloween, or at least it was when the time change happened before Halloween.

      Same story every single year, not a nightmare, just a given.

    • 61 meta
      November 27, 2025 at 9:07 pm

      Gawd, I don’t know how people in LA can stand all the cars and the long distances to get anywhere.

      • 62 Arapaho415 (@arapaho415)
        November 27, 2025 at 9:49 pm

        I hate traffic, hafe sitting on the freeway.

        I avoid it by traveling early in the morning and using side routes.

        Rarely get on the freeway unless it’s early morning.

  22. 64 desertflower
    November 27, 2025 at 9:05 pm

    The Gov and everyone involved in KY website deserves a big round of applause! For a state that normally gets ZERO kudos…they’ve been nothing but spectacular with this:)

    http://www.wtvq.com/content/localnews/story/Kynect-Say-They-Are-Ready-For-Traffic-Surge/NXS-GH08kEOZrUOkfq3yyg.cspx

    I’m done with the turkey shopping. It’s exhausting! Time for that nap:)

  23. 65 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 27, 2025 at 9:06 pm

    Good evening, TOD fam! Thanks for the congrats left on the last thread. Amk, the bar is open, come and get it.

    Wishing you and your’s a wonderful Thanksgiving. Holiday is bittersweet for me, missing all of the family members whom have gone on to the great beyond. Blessed to still have my Mom alive and kicking — we’re going to the movies and then dinner at my home. Feel blessed that even though I’ve been ill and haven’t felt up to going out to shop, I’m able to assemble a wonderful meal from the contents of my freeze and pantry. Feel blessed that for once, while sick in bed, I used my time wisely — I addressed all of my Christmas cards and party invitations; they went into the mail last evening, I figured they would be delivered on Friday — wrong, even my cousins in New Jersey received theirs today! For those that complain that the USPS doesn’t work, sometimes they are just too damned efficient!

    Last, but not least, daily, I’m thankful for the friendship and fellowship here at The Obama Diary. Have a Happy and Blessed Thanksgiving!

    • 66 desertflower
      November 27, 2025 at 9:09 pm

      I would like to join in the congratulations on your official re election! Great news, Alycee:)

    • 67 Dakota
      November 27, 2025 at 9:21 pm

      Well done Alycee!

    • 68 daisydem
      November 27, 2025 at 9:24 pm

      Take good care of yourself Alycee … and I don’t know where you are, but I am a stone’s throw from the campus of Alabma A&M University and my hubby received his Master’s in Psychology from there.

    • 69 jacquelineoboomer
      November 27, 2025 at 9:27 pm

      Happy Thanksgiving to you and your mom, Alycee! I’m very glad to have “met” you along the way, here and there, in the time of Obama.

    • 70 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 9:30 pm

      Please do take good care of yourself Alycee and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your mom!!!

      Congratulations, also!!!

    • 71 sjterrid
      November 27, 2025 at 10:40 pm

      Happy Thanksgiving to you, Alycee!

      Congratulation on your official re-election.

  24. 72 desertflower
    November 27, 2025 at 9:07 pm

    Thanks for nothing, RW AH’s…. ( i’m trying to be better for the holidays…no promises!)

    http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Durable-Goods-Orders-Drop-as-U-S-Shutdown-Hurts-5016348.php

  25. 73 desertflower
    November 27, 2025 at 9:12 pm

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacares-failure-20131118,0,6037469.story#axzz2lu03xrZQ

    The myths of Obamacare’s ‘failure’

    Attacks on the Affordable Care Act have stepped up over the last week or so. You’d think that the healthcare reform known as Obamacare is leading to the wholesale loss of affordable insurance by huge sectors of the American public, many of whom will be impoverished by being forced into low-quality health plans at exorbitant prices.
    You’d think the entire reform is on “life support,” as the usually judicious National Journal put it today, speculating that Democrats may soon start calling for its repeal.
    Don’t buy the hype. The numbers tell an entirely different story. What they also demonstrate is that the myth of Obamacare’s “failure” is a product of the same Republican noise machine that has been working to undermine this crucial reform since Day One. It’s assisted by news reporting about canceled health policies that typically ranges from woefully misinformed to spectacularly ignorant, and even at its best is incomplete.

    • 74 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 9:33 pm

      “Don’t buy the hype. The numbers tell an entirely different story. What they also demonstrate is that the myth of Obamacare’s “failure” is a product of the same Republican noise machine that has been working to undermine this crucial reform since Day One.”

      The GOP will regret for DECADES their monomaniacal attack on #OBAMACARE - on providing health care to millions of Americans. And, they are going to begin regreting, big time, on 4 Nov 2014!!!!

      #LandSlideDEMS2014

      Yes WE MUST

  26. 75 Smoothscotch
    November 27, 2025 at 9:13 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving TODrs.

  27. 77 desertflower
    November 27, 2025 at 9:14 pm

    More success stories… http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-success-20131125,0,1801769.story#axzz2lsE4Lyh1

  28. 78 desertflower
    November 27, 2025 at 9:20 pm

    There’s always this! http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/11/27/corporations-people-get-taxed-differently-people/

  29. 79 maryl1
    November 27, 2025 at 9:26 pm

  30. 92 Claire
    November 27, 2025 at 9:30 pm

    OMG!!!! I’m cracking up. Just saw the turkey photos. I have the exact same Docs as Sasha. Same color, diff color laces. Just wore them this past weekend. I’ve had mine for about 15 years. LOL Went to Curaçao to celebrate my b-day and got them there. LOL She makes me feel young. LOL!!

    • 93 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 9:35 pm

      Amazing how a pair of shoes can elicit so many diverse and wonderful connections isn’t it, Claire!!! :)

    • 96 99ts
      November 27, 2025 at 9:52 pm

      Oh dear - you both make me feel old - I bought the exact same pair (halfway around the world) for my daughter 15 years ago :)

      • 97 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        November 27, 2025 at 9:55 pm

        As noted, a pair of shoes laces people from different continents together in shared memories - just amazing!!! And, without the Internet and communities like TOD we’d never know!!!

        That’s a bunch of reasons to be very thankful!!

      • 98 Claire
        November 27, 2025 at 10:15 pm

        Oh, don’t feel old. The Obamas have a way of making everyone feel connected. That’s what’s so special about them.

  31. 99 MightyPamela
    November 27, 2025 at 9:45 pm

    Just popping in for a quick Thanksgiving hug, and to share the joy! Only a few more days now. I will make it. I shall return!! A little burst of TOD loving kindness would surely be a boost in the final, mad push!! Big Hugs all around! MP

    • 100 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 9:48 pm

      MP, have been keeping you in my thoughts, daily, and so hope all will be good for you. Happy Thanksgiving!!!

      • 101 MightyPamela
        November 27, 2025 at 10:42 pm

        Thank you, Bobfr, considering all the complex circumstances, things are going amazingly well! I feel as if somehow the universe is bending and shaping itself to manage even the smallest details to match every need which arises! All I can do is put forth the effort and watch in wonder and amazement! {{{Bobfr}}} Have a good Thanskgivjng Day!

    • 102 99ts
      November 27, 2025 at 9:53 pm

      Hi MP - I will be so pleased when you are back to explain how you did it - I have to do the same all too soon - gulp!

      • 103 MightyPamela
        November 27, 2025 at 10:49 pm

        {{{99ts}}}. Start as soon as possible! That is my advice, and I shall use that as my new mantra for years to come! Reduce. Reuse. Recycle. Most importantly, just get rid of it!! :) And when I am back, I will also update all o y’all on my final diagnosis by MRI officially, of degenerative osteoarthritis. Bone on bone in the knee bone spurs on each side, and a shoulder in tears and fraying, with bone fragments afloat in the joint. No wonder I have been feeling so wretched all these months! 3 more days. Then I shall truly rest. In gratitude!

        • 104 99ts
          November 28, 2025 at 1:20 am

          {{{{MP}}}} Most 90% of what is in our house belongs to the hoarder (and that is not me). My mother would have approved of your message. We should have 12 months after he retires - so I’m crossing everything.

          So sorry to hear about the osteo - sometimes I just put off having tests because I don’t want to know the results - but it is good to know you have cause for the pain & hope there is relief available

          take care

  32. 105 meta
    November 27, 2025 at 9:46 pm

    GORGEOUS people

  33. 106 zizi2
    November 27, 2025 at 9:53 pm

    Yesterday TOD posted Rouhani’s version of Will I. Am’s famous PBO “Yes We Can” speech video. Many wondered what the message of the song was. Well, voila. A version appeared on Rouhani’s Youtube channel with English subtitles.

    Sadly NYT & other media report that this video is not being shown on Iranian media where women are banned from singing publicly. So it’s limited to Rouhani’s Social Media. Also restricted inside Iran.

    • 107 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 9:57 pm

      Thank you, zizi, for posting the English subtitle version. We can all be assured that clever Iranians (and they are definitely clever) are sharing the video, robustly!!! :)

      • 108 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        November 27, 2025 at 10:07 pm

    • 109 vcprezofan2
      November 27, 2025 at 10:16 pm

      A much appreciated find, Zizi. I would never have thought to go looking though last night I did wish I knew what was being said. TY

  34. 110 mtmarilyn
    November 27, 2025 at 9:57 pm

    Good evening TOD family. What a week and what a day for all of us. So much to be thankful for.

    Now I am baking the pies for tomorrow. I make pumpkin and pecan. I cook up the pumpkins from Halloween and use my mother’s family recipe that’s over 100 years old. It’s my favorite pie. My husband’s is pecan. I have had to make up my own recipe because my husband can’t have anything with corn in it especially corn syrup. My recipe uses brown sugar, agave syrup and pear brandy. It is very good.

    I am now going back and catching up on all that has gone on yesterday and today. We were able to watch Popcorn being pardoned. The girls sure have grown into such beautiful young ladies.

    • 111 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      November 27, 2025 at 10:09 pm

      Hi Marilyn!!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and please post your pecan pie recipe as from what you describe it must be delicious!!!

  35. 113 globalcitizenlinda
    November 27, 2025 at 10:15 pm

    any video of the First Family at the DC food bank today?

    I love their interaction with regular people and especially during this, one of their annual volunteer events.

    thanks in advance


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