rise and shine

Morning everyone.

I won’t be able to post stuff until later today, so I’ll catch up with you then. Chat away – and have a perfect day. 😉

503 Responses to “rise and shine”

  1. 1 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Good Morning…….

    Saw this elsewhere…

    “You can just hear the GOP’s mind rumbling..­..OSAWA-WH­AT????? OSAWATOMIE­?????

    That sure sounds like a village in Kenya!!! Whattaya mean, Kansas?
    NOOOOOOO – KENYA!!!!!”

      December 7, 2011 at 8:18 am


    • 3 relellit
      December 7, 2011 at 9:44 am

      Good morning TODville

      Linda, Of course, the right will go crazy. In fact, they already have. They are jealous and angry their money is going down the drain. The smears, misinformation, and slights just are just not working against our President any more. Fox is is having a conniption. They are so frazzled they keep repeating the same thing over&over i.e. President Obama thinks he is Truman. President Obama thinks he is Lincoln blah, blah, blah.

      To be very truthful, I could hardly tell the difference between Chris Matthews, Micheal Moore, or FOX. I wish I could know just what Chris Matthews is channeling now! Apart from from pimping his mythological book, he must channeling his inner racism. 😮

      That’s another thing; I’m tried , too tried of, is the PL wanting our President to channel other Presidents. Perhaps it would be better if the media started channeling President Obama’s message rather than diluting his message or wanting to give him an extreme make-over. President Obama is genuinely who he is and I’m just sick of these fools trying to re-arrange his personality and temperament. Can’t these fools see the President is occupying this time in our universe because of who he is? Our President is doing an excellent job and it doesn’t need to be minimized by a bunch of jealous sore losers and egomaniacal pundits.

      • 5 Obama Grandmama
        December 7, 2011 at 11:40 am

        Yup! You are right on! The CHANGE that we are in is that PBO is his own man. He does things differently and all of the media is measuring him by previous presidents and administrations. I am not sure if they will ever get that. WE DO GET IT!

        PBO repects and understands history and the significance of it. He uses it to emphasize his own policies that align with history. Remember on the campaign trail when the Primary was over and Sen. Barack Obama used the city in New England called Unity that had a statistical tie for himself and Hillary as a place to kick off their uniting? His sense of history, place, appropriateness and timing is impecable.

        I also have noticed our supposed media is giving all kinds of interviews to the GOP candidates especially the ones not included in the debates like Buddy Roehmer, and Gary Johnson (not sure of the last name but he was a former NM Gov.) Why does the GOP favoring media stay on message and push the party while the so called Dem media only seems to criticize the President and push every other person of any party? I hear these disclaimers from time to time of how of course they support the president but of how important it is to keep him focussed on their concerns as if they were still for a moment he would go over to the other side. I am sick of it. We need to rely on ourselves and keep challenging the liberal media.

        • December 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm

          In reference to what’s with this crazy name, Osawatami? It must be Kenyan! On the contrary, the -watami ending puts it right in the circle of native American tribes, here before the European settlers took over — the Potawatami. In fact, we have on our hill Potawatami plums planted by Mormon settlers and still thriving. They’re yellow and make a wonderful jam with a strong apricot taste.

          Although the fact that Osawatami is derived from a native American tribe might upset the far right, too. We had a visitor once so upset with my husband’s sympathy with the displacement and in fact slaughter of Native Americans in the early days of western settlement, that he spluttered much like Trump — they were savages, they didn’t deserve sympathy, or even acceptance as part of the human race.

          He was bordering on nuts at the time. He’s completely nuts now, poor guy. But, unfortunately, his thinking typifies that of the far right people here in Utah, in spite of the fact that we have an Episcopalian bishop in Salt Lake who is a native American and, I believe, members of the Mormon church who are native Americans. Though they accept them as (I think) “Lamanites” mentioned in their Book of Mormon. Jesus came, see, and preached to them.

          Sorry — all this is so off-topic I’m embarrassed. But I do love our Potawatami plums.

        • December 7, 2011 at 2:21 pm

          OG you need a pulpit ’cause you’re preachin’ a good bit of gospel. i’m lovin’ it. 😉

      • 10 isonprize
        December 7, 2011 at 1:53 pm

        Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap!!! APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE! 😀

      • 11 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        December 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm

        There is no secret to this relellit, love. It is called RACISM. Never before have we had a sitting president polled as much as this one, or compared to as many former presidents as this one. Lets call it for what it is. Our nation overwhelmingly elected its first black president, but there is still plenty of RACISM to go around for the ignorant. Obama/Biden 2012

      • 12 jacquelineoboomer
        December 7, 2011 at 2:13 pm

        Matthews needs to go home. So disgusting that he is comparing JFK to PBO, like he knew or knows either one of them. Matthews was a teenager – like many of us – when JFK was in office. I loved JFK, as well, but would never spend one minute comparing him to President Obama. They were both unique individuals, and smart people know that.

        I want to give Matthews a similar response, as Lloyd Bentsen gave to Dan Quayle in a VP candidate debate, when Quayle tried using the comparison myth for his own purposes (“Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”): Chris, you didn’t know Jack Kennedy; you don’t know Barack Obama; you are no judge of their characters or their administrations. Go home.

        • 13 Linda
          December 7, 2011 at 2:59 pm

          What is so Great about Kennedy anyway.

          He started us on the road to the VietNam endless War
          Bay of Pigs
          Cuban Missile Crisis
          He ignored the Civil Rights Crisis
          His Father paid for votes

          I remember Kennedy…..

          • December 7, 2011 at 3:15 pm

            I beg to differ on some of your points. We were sending troops to Vietnam before Kennedy got in office. I participated in the Missile Crisis and it was something that had to be done or we would all be speaking Russian/Spanish. In short, i challenge all your posted points except the point re: his father and woman. On the others, I was smack dab in the middle.

            • December 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm


              Vietnam started on Ike’s watch. Bay of Pigs was a major CIA figup according to someone I know who was in the loop at that time and I totally agree about the Missile Crisis. Imho, that was one of our more crucial times in this country and JFK stood.

              I will add that I do get weary that once someone dies they either get to be saints or sinners when people forget that most are probably both because they are human.

          • 16 Puddin'
            December 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm

            …for me, I am very much against bringing someone down in order to lift someone up. We all have positives and negatives; we all make mistakes, no one is perfect…what each individual think, say and does should be the measure of who, how and what they are, period. I love that President Hussien Obama does not disrespect anyone, he doesn’t spend his time (or ours) talking ill about anyone or group of people…he is such a stellar, stand up, stand out, human being…I want to be more like him…he is my hero…I absolutely love him!

          • 17 nabsentia23
            December 7, 2011 at 4:21 pm

            Actually, Kennedy avoided escalating the war in Vietnam. He was under enormous pressure to do so, but he resisted. Kennedy was definitely a Cold War warrior, but I think he favored covert activities more than all-out hostilities. Sorry, but that point belongs to LBJ.

        • December 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm

          A friend has a theory, which I honestly had not considered. She believes that the almost 60 million people who voted for John McCain and the millions who didn’t vote, but would have voted for McCain are completely flabbergasted. They didn’t believe that Barack Obama would ever be elected as President. In essence they have lost their minds. They cannot accept the black guy as President of the United States. Now I offered a caveat that more than likely many were “true” conservatives and would not vote for any Democrat. She conceded the point, but said the racists who have come out of the woodwork are the ones who never believed President Obama would be elected.

      • 20 Left-Indie
        December 7, 2011 at 8:57 pm

        Bogus. All you have do is hear his “let me finish” segment tonight to see the difference between him and Fox. This broad smear of liberal medie people is amazing to me.

  2. December 7, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Happy Hump Day ya’ll! 🙂

  3. 24 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Good Morning, Chipsticks and TOD 🙂

  4. December 7, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Good morning to Chips and the TOD family. Congrats Ms Chips on the 6 million milestone. I vote you, most definitely the ‘IT’ blogger of the year!! Added to which, I always imagine this site expanding into a full blown lay-out with sections etc. How cool would that be!
    O/T Just thought you would like to know that Raul Castro is in Trinidad for 2 days for the Cuba/Caricom summit.

    • 26 Linda
      December 7, 2011 at 8:35 am

      I was just reading about Cuba…Yesterday was Elian Gonzalez’s 18th birthday. It is just amazing how fast time goes by. I will never forget that horrible picture . Look at him now.

  5. 28 Bill
    December 7, 2011 at 8:32 am

    The Washington Post is reporting that Newton Leroy charged his campaign $42,000 to use his personal mailing list for his campaign. There is something really, really wrong with that.

    • December 7, 2011 at 8:41 am

      I feel certain that if you scratch the surface, there are going to be untold “wrong” (illegal things) Newton has done. For New, there is now law that’s superior to his own judgment.

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:52 am

        Newt just wreaks of crookishness.

        If every business deal he’s been a part of is investigated carefully, you will find corruption in each one. Mother Jones is reporting a story about his literacy program, one that he established in the 90s. He paid his volunteers up to $500, which the story said made up a huge part of the program budget.

        Who pays volunteers anyway?

        Morning all, I am off to training. Hope to sneak in here on my break!!

      • December 7, 2011 at 10:19 am

        Newt is a scam artist – a con man. One thing Rachael Maddow has done is expose his scams over the years. He made millions bilking money from suckers.

    • 32 jacquelineoboomer
      December 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm

      At least Newtie’s campaign donors got off cheap, compared to the taxpayers of Massachusetts who had to fork up $100,000 to help Romney destroy his electronic governorship records (so he could hide all trace).

      Crass and devious people of the highest magnitude.

  6. 33 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:40 am

    Santorum Claims Nobody Dies Because They Are Uninsured, They Die Due To ‘Poor Decisions’
    By Igor Volsky on Dec 6, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Of all the GOP presidential candidates, Rick Santorum is arguably responsible for the most outrageous claims about health care policy. The former Pennsylvania senator has told people who can’t afford health care to stop whining about the high costs of medical treatments and medications and spend less on non essentials like cable and cell phone bills and even suggested that insurers should deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions.

    Yesterday, during a campaign event in Dordt College, in Sioux Center, Iowa, Santorum seemed taken a back when a student asked him “about health care and the Christian responsibility of caring for the poor” and took exception to the suggestion that the uninsured die at a higher rate than the insured population. ABC News’ Shushannah Walshe has this report:

    The student said he didn’t “think God appreciates the fact that we have 50 to 100,000 uninsured Americans dying due to a lack of healthcare every year,” citing a 2009 study out of Harvard University.

    “Dying?” Santorum answered before going back and forth about the validity of the study.


  7. 38 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Commentary: American TV’s obsession with missing white women

    Let the first word be one of compassion.

    For anyone who has a loved one missing, Godspeed the day of that person’s safe return. Or failing that, Godspeed the bitter satisfaction of knowing his or her fate. To have someone you love vanish is, one imagines, a special kind of hell.

    That said, let the second word be one of exasperation.

    Another white woman has turned up missing. And, as predictably happens in such cases, television news has gone into overdrive, CNN, ABC, NBC providing breathless updates of Michelle Parker’s disappearance, how she was last seen the day she appeared on The People’s Court, suing her former fiancé, who is now the prime suspect in her kidnapping.

    This story unfolds in the wake of similar media fixations on Laci Peterson, Elizabeth Smart, JonBenet Ramsey, Jennifer “Runaway Bride” Wilbanks, Chandra Levy, Lori Hacking, Robyn Gardner, Natalee Holloway, all of them young, female, white, pretty — and imperiled. There is, should it need saying, a naked bias in the media’s obsession with white women in danger to the exclusion of pretty much every other cohort of the American demographic.

    Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/12/07/132172/commentary-american-tvs-obsession.html#ixzz1fr8avd2G

    • 39 prettyfoot58
      December 7, 2011 at 9:12 am

      Greetingsssssss and Good Morning….my TOD..FAM…

      i have listened to our President speech….over and over again….i am so impressed and in awe of our President…how on point is he…he says the things that needs to be said,..and gives more than lip service to the needs of our Nation…i love this man ….

      He represents a shining star…a beacon of light…so much hope of what America can be….as Dr King…said….one day our nation will live up to it to its creed….i do not expect this to happen with out a fight….without a struggle….but with this President leading the way….we can truly see the Promised Land….

      i know i might sound okie…but this is from my mind, body and spirit….

      and Chips…6 million….could you have imagined that you would reach such an extraordianry milestone….but that attests to what such a lifeline this place has become…a place for peace..information..and of course fun…but more importantly this place is like an oasis..in a desert of misinformation…hatred…things that are vile…

      i consider myself to be blessed to be among you all….

      Pressssssssssssssss ON!

  8. 42 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:44 am

    Under Pressure From Anti-Choice Groups, Gingrich Flips To Anti-Birth Control Position
    By Ian Millhiser on Dec 5, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Although GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich previously took the view that “personhood begins at conception,” on Friday, Gingrich told ABC’s Jake Tapper that life begins at the “successful implantation” of a fertilized egg in a woman’s uterus. This position would effectively lead to a ban on all abortions while still maintaining women’s access to most forms of birth control. Unfortunately for Gingrich, however, this position proved insufficiently radical to his anti-choice base, and he flipped back to an even more right-wing stance just one day later:

    Newt Gingrich has moved quickly to repair any potential fallout from his remarks last Friday to ABC’s Jake Tapper in which he said that life begins at the “successful implantation” of a fertilized egg, rather than at conception.

    That is heresy to the pro-life movement, and had the potential to complicate Gingrich’s rise in the Republican presidential polls, especially in crucial states like Iowa and South Carolina, whose early caucuses and primary are dominated by conservative Christian voters.


  9. 43 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:46 am

    O’Reilly: Will President Obama’s African-American Outreach Include A Cameo On Soul Train?
    videoby Frances Martel | 8:42 pm, December 6th, 2011

    The discussion on tonight’s Factor began far from the world of early disco music, with discussion of a column Hill wrote on the Republican infatuation, as he saw it, with candidates who appeared anti-intellectual. “There’s always a smart candidate,” he argued, beginning with Newt Gingrich as the paradigm, but “Republicans don’t pick the smart candidate.” He continued to explain that Republicans “beat up on guys like [Sen.] John Kerry for speaking French,” which O’Reilly found to be an insufficient article, using President George W. Bush as a counter-example, as a graduate from Ivy League schools. “His grades were two standard deviations below the norm,” Hill replied.

    O’Reilly then shifted gears to President Obama’s African American outreach initiative, asking, “what does that entail, going on Soul Train?” Hill, laughing, replied “you know you’re going to be on Media Matters for that!” an objection to which O’Reilly replied that it was a “popular show” that he “really liked,” since The O’Jays were “one of my favorite groups.” “No, it’s not!” Hill corrected (in O’Reilly’s defense, Soul Train was on until 2006, but probably stopped being relevant a decade or two before that, since Don Cornelius wasn’t even around at some point). Hill then explained what actual outreach in the black community means, which includes “going into communities, talking to everyday people… making sure people are registered to vote,” as well as holding meetings with certain leaders in the community.


    • December 7, 2011 at 9:21 am

      Bill O’Reilly the world’s expert on African American outreach. What a joke he is.

    • December 7, 2011 at 9:32 am

      How mighty white of him. I guess white outreach should include going on Howdy Doody and The Lawrence Welk Show. Lets see President Obama sing One Toke Over The Line!!!!

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:35 am

        Then have him dance to Calcutta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He’ll win Wyoming in a cakewalk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • 50 jacquelineoboomer
          December 7, 2011 at 2:24 pm

          Do not bring up “Calcutta”! I repeat: do not bring up “Calcutta”!

          In my Catholic girls high school in the early ’60s, we had to do exercises in gym class to that song, in our gym outfits that had to be white button-down shirts and white bloomers (considered more modest than just shorts) – when, outside of school, we were wearing mini-skirts and listening to rock ‘n’ roll!

          Still makes me laugh how I was one person in school and another when that bell rang! Kind of like what we called “street angel and house devil” or, at times, the opposite !! If you’re so young that you don’t remember bloomer shorts and “Calcutta,” just thank your lucky stars.

    • 56 nabsentia23
      December 7, 2011 at 4:27 pm

      Soul Train isn’t even on the air anymore and O’Reilly is talking this BS! I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s no longer friends with Al Sharpton.

  10. 58 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Morning! Since we’re talking about Newt this morning….

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/12/06/1995-video-chris-farley-as-newt-gingrich-all-democrats-are-offically-weird/ Wonderful Chris Farley….

    • December 7, 2011 at 8:53 am

      Good morning!

      You really can’t make this insane drivel up. Last night Reuters published this gag-worthy pablum:

      Top News Special report: Callista Gingrich – The ultimate running mate

      Top News! Special Report! Guess they’re desperate to push Newt on everybody now since he’s creaming Mittens. Pure BS.

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:20 am

        In a sense she is the ultimate running mate–for a repulsive candidate.

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:27 am

        To think, reuters used to be a reputed news org. Sign.

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:40 am

        Still trying to push the asshole and the whore on us. How low have the Republicans gone.

      • December 7, 2011 at 11:52 am

        A lot of women will be reminded that Calista is the woman who were going with a married man while Newt was bing a hypocrite. Calista is not a good role model.

        • December 7, 2011 at 7:18 pm

          I’m not sure about that. A lot of women in 2008 ‘forgot’ that McCluck divorced the woman who stood by him all the years when he was a POW, even after she was disfigured and crippled by a car accident. So, he could marry a Barbie doll heiress who jump started his political career. How soon they forget!

      • 65 nospin
        December 7, 2011 at 12:20 pm

        Wait meta, there is a lot of snark in this piece. Chips – I adhered to your rules and only copied out a few samples of the funny parts.

        “Callista Gingrich is a passionate musician who worked for many years as a clerk on Capitol Hill. She is so integral to every aspect of her husband’s life that it is hard to assess Newt’s current bid for the presidency without examining their relationship.”


        “Newt is clearly smitten with his third wife, wants her involved in everything he does and also accommodates her separate interests. Newt’s priorities sometimes annoyed staff at the cluster of consulting and policy enterprises that – in addition to his substantial speaking fees – earned him millions of dollars from Freddie Mac, healthcare companies, pharmaceutical firms and other corporate interests.”

        And then there was the now-famous matter of the $500,000 – $1,000,000 interest-free charge account at Tiffany’s, which Hammond said was all for personal use “and has now been paid off and closed.”

        “Dr. Richard Land, an ethics expert at the Southern Baptist Convention, published an open letter to Newt saying, “The good news is…a high percentage of evangelical men are willing to cut you some slack over your turbulent marital history. The bad news is that evangelical women are far less willing to forgive.”

        Callista has rarely missed her bi-weekly choir practices at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, according to music director Peter Latona. “She’s almost religious about it,” “She was always classy, always looked wonderful. She would even hold a beer bottle elegantly,” said Luther College’s Peter. ”

        “After college, Callista headed to Washington to work for a Congressman she knew from Wisconsin. Instead, she met Gingrich and began the long affair that carried through to Newt’s resignation from Congress in 1999 following a stormy tenure as speaker and a formal reprimand for ethics violations. In December of that year he divorced his second wife, Marianne, and married Callista eight months later.”

        Callista was hands-on in the book production. The $14.95 book sold several thousand copies in its first week in October, and 80,000 are now in print. A good number of those sales are at book signings scheduled to fit Gingrich’s campaign calendar, where Newt’s own book is on sale, too. “With Newt doing so well in the polls and rising, its just perfect timing for the book as well,”

        This piece is hysterical. lolololol

        I especially loved two of the comments. Was too funny.

        GLK wrote:

        Judging by all the hate mail, everyone posting here are perfect little angels. These are not the people that cut me off on the highway and give a middle finger salute. Nor are they my back stabbing co-workers or greedy relatives. They never cheat, steal, divorce, or seek opportunities that would benefit themselves at another’s expense. They all live in Perfectville and expect everyone to follow suit or suffer a good tongue lashing. Basically you’re all hypocrites.
        Dec 07, 2011 11:37am EST — Report as abuse

        AlkalineState wrote:

        GLK admonishes: “Judging by all the hate mail, everyone posting here are perfect little angels.”

        No…. but we’re not running for president on a family values platform. GOP has painted itself into a sanctimonious corner on a lot of this stuff. When you’re on your third marriage and you’ve cheated on the first ones….telling us all about the value of being a good Christian…. has more odor than a day-old floater.

        I would absolutely love to have Callista run as Newt’s running mate. They represent what folks are trying to pass off as today’s version of Republican values.

      • 66 Vicky
        December 7, 2011 at 12:59 pm

        Her involvement in his second divorce was quite a scandal in west central Wisconsin at the time. Quite shameful. I suspect attitudes would be quite partisan now.

  11. 69 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Democratic Attacks Draw Blood From Romney

    President Barack Obama and Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney
    Benjy Sarlin & Evan McMorris-Santoro-
    December 7, 2011, 5:02 AM

    Never mind Newt Gingrich. It’s Democrats who have been giving Mitt Romney the most trouble lately.

    The DNC and the Obama campaign have relentlessly harassed him for weeks, forcing him to battle two fronts as he struggles to secure the nomination. Their efforts have constituted a kind of trial run for the general election as they’ve ignored other Republican candidates and aimed their full fire on Romney.

    And they’ve had some successes recently. The DNC went after Romney over and over for his refusal to support to extending the payroll tax cut for example, highlighting an October quote in which he referred to the move as a “little band aid” substitute for broader reform. On Monday, Romney came out for the extension, saying it was necessary because “working families are really feeling the pinch right now.”

    But nowhere have they had more impact than with their efforts to resurrect the old “flip flop” attack against Romney. Despite it being a well known vulnerability, Republican rivals had little luck using it against Romney for most of the campaign. Now, a steady stream of Democratic web videos, press releases, and ads have helped return it to the national discussion — much to the annoyance of Romney, who appeared surprised to get questions on the topic in an widely panned interview with FOX News’ Bret Baier.


  12. 70 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:50 am

    Romney: I’m Not A Career Politician… Because I Kept Losing

    Mitt Romney’s taking questions from the press, and it’s being carried live on CNN. He’s asked about the recent attack ads that call him a “career politician” and cast him as a Washington insider. Romney replies, “Well, I ran for office, but I didn’t win.” He says that losing those races means he’s not been a career politician as he’s gone back into business (and, indeed, the Massachusetts governorship) in between. He concludes about that line of attack: “Had I won we wouldn’t be having this argument; I’d be President of the United States.”

    Romney ran for the MA Senate in 1994, and lost. He then ran for the MA governorship in 2002 and won. He previously ran for President in 2008.


  13. 71 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:52 am

    Mitt Romney — Not “Mr. Inevitable” Anymore
    The Newt-mentous march to the top of the Republican field has led to many head scratching conclusions. Don’t Tea Party Republicans, who have been searching for a candidate to call their own, want a Washington outsider to carry the mantle? How has a candidate whose organization literally got its first phone line in their Iowa office this week become the leader there by a huge margin? What happened to Mr. Inevitable, Mitt Romney?

    The last few days have seen a deluge of polling on the Hawkeye state. The topline results all say one thing: Gingrich is ahead, by a lot. His margins have increased as the previous frontrunner, businessman Herman Cain bowed out, suspending his campaign. The data shows Gingrich pushing above thirty percent while former Mass Gov. Mitt Romney is relegated to fighting with Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) for second place, a battle that pits a motivated group of Paul supporters against the lukewarm love of Romney folks.

    But the real news in the latest round of Iowa polling is not that Gingrich is doing well — Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Cain have done as much already. It’s that Gingrich is sapping support thanks to the exit of Cain — and taking it from many of the other candidates as well, in a possible coalescing of support behind his candidacy.


  14. 72 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Romney: I’ll Be On Fox A Lot More, Because You Guys Matter

    On Tuesday afternoon Mitt Romney spoke to Neil Cavuto of Fox News. Romney noted that he would be up with more ads because it’s time to “make my closing argument to the American people.” He also noted you’d see a lot more of him in the “early primary states” and on TV, “including Fox.”

    “I’ll be on Fox a lot,” he said. “Because you guys matter when it comes to early primary voters.”


  15. 73 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Karl Rove Tries To Sabotage Newt’s Iowa Surge

    Karl Rove isn’t officially affiliated with any of the GOP candidates, but if you listen to him, it’s becoming increasingly clear he has a favorite. We’re not the first to notice, but Karl Rove seems firmly in the Mitt Romney camp. What’s more, he’s goes on TV a lot to lob attacks at just about every other candidate.

    Rove has taken a stab at just about every candidate other than Romney, and on Tuesday it was Newt Gingrich’s turn. With multiple polls showing Newt Gingrich surging in Iowa, Rove took to Fox News, to undermined the former speaker:

    “If in the polls newt is leading by 10 or 11 or 12 points going into the Iowa caucuses and doesn’t win by that margin people are going to say, well, he didn’t meet his mark. That is a challenge for somebody who has not built organization.”Basically, Rove is framing the Iowa caucuses in such a way that, even if Newt wins, a victory by less than 10 points is interpreted as a loss. Rove’s point is that Gingrich has “momentum” but no “organization,” which means he is likely to underperform relative to his poll numbers, and thus that he’s all fluff. If Newt does win Iowa on January 3, expect Rove back on TV making the same argument.


    • December 7, 2011 at 9:18 am

      The battle between these two overweight bad guys –Rove and Newton–will be fun to see. There is no ethical boundaries that these guys won’t breach to attain their goals.

    • 75 utaustinliberal
      December 7, 2011 at 9:51 am

      Rove better watch himself because unlike Perry, Bachmann, Romney, and the rest of that sorry bunch; Newt is dangerous to the Rovian machine. Newt isn’t some political neophyte who doesn’t know the corrupt GOP system in and out. Heck he wrote some chapters in the playbook. So if Rove wants to go after him; he better be prepared for Newt firing back on all cannons and letting some skeletons out of the closet. Newt isn’t afraid of Rove and if I were Rove; I’d be very very wary of a Newt unleashed.

      On the other hand, this is just more good news for the Dems and PBO. Intra-party GOP cannibalism is fun to watch!

  16. 76 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 8:57 am

    The Hispanic Vote Can’t Save Gingrich
    Douthat dissects a talking point:

    George W. Bush won a larger-than-average share of the Hispanic vote because he campaigned as a center-right figure in general, not because of his particular focus on amnesty for illegal immigrants. John McCain won a smaller-than-average share because the Republican brand was tarnished in 2008 in general, not because the failure of comprehensive immigration reform had poisoned the well with Hispanic voters. And in 2012, there’s no reason to think that a more polarizing candidate like Gingrich will be able to compensate for turning off swing voters by cleaning up among Hispanics: If he can’t win white independents and white conservative Democrats, he probably won’t be able to win Latino independents either.


    • December 7, 2011 at 12:49 pm

      I would be surprised if people who care about immigration would vote for any Republican in 2012. First, Newt has made bigoted comments and can’t be trusted to stick with his sometimes moderate comments regarding immigration policy. Second, Romney has flip-flopped on immigration and now claims that he is anti-immigration.

      The comment I keep hearing from Latino voters is that they vote Republican because of “the strong Christian family values” that the traditional Republican party represents. Given that the Republican party has been plagued with scandal after scandal these many years, I’m not sure how any self-respecting person can still use that argument. Also, if they’re so opposed to abortion, then why didn’t they make any progress towards ending abortion in all the years that Bush was in office or when the GOP controlled Congress? Finally, they have a real Christian with strong family values (strong values in general) in the current President, who also cares about Latino Americans, undocumented workers, the battle against drug cartels in Mexico and the Cuban situation. They need to take a closer look at today’s Republican party and ask themselves if the party they supported in the past really stands for what they hold dear.

      • December 7, 2011 at 3:13 pm

        Just my 2 pesos.

        People I talk to love the Obamas and think they represent positive family values. They like the important role that “Abuela” Marian plays in the family’s life. They consider the girls to be “modest, respectful and polite” and the Obamas to be excellent parents. Although, my Sister-in-law joked: “I would be locking that oldest girl up until her Quinceanera (fifteenth birthday) She is a beauty. The boys will be on her like bees on a honey blossom!”

        • December 7, 2011 at 5:05 pm

          Thanks Aquagranny – I should have written: the comment I hear from Latino GOP voters. I’m sure there are plenty of thinking people out there like the ones you’ve come across. It’s the ones who keep voting GOP in the face of such hypocrisy that I can’t understand. Any minority, women, working person, thinking person voting for the GOP right now needs their head examined.

          • December 7, 2011 at 7:24 pm

            Totally Co-sign on that! I just cannot understand any POC, woman, working person from “middle class’ to poor ever voting Repugnant. Their hatred of us and their evil wish to exploit us is so exposed now that it reeks like a clogged cesspit. Any who can’t smell the reek now are lost to us.

  17. 81 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Republican Hatred For Obama Overrides Their No Tax Increase Philosophy

    In the past, Americans assumed their elected politicians worked for the entire population and although there are always special interest groups who pay for special favors, it was generally accepted that, despite political affiliation, Congressional representatives cared about all Americans. Throughout the past year, it has become glaringly obvious that Republicans have no interest in the poor and middle class and instead, serve religious fanatics and the wealthiest 2% of Americans. It appears that Republicans are out to punish working-class Americans by spending all their time rewarding the wealthy and their corporations, and when they find an opportunity to cause more harm to struggling Americans; they vigorously assault the people they were elected to serve.

    Many Americans are beginning to ask Republicans why they are giving advantages to the wealthy when 99% of the population struggles to survive, and their reply is always drivel about rewarding the wealthy so they will create jobs. This past week, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “I don’t know what the middle class ever did to the Republicans that they’re so out to get them. But whether it’s job creation, economic growth, the tax code and the rest – the deck is getting stacked against the middle class.” Pelosi has been in Congress long enough to know that Republicans are out to get the middle class because they have tax dollars Republicans want to hand over to the wealthy, and they hate Americans.


  18. 82 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Teddy’s Good, But Don’t Forget Franklin
    by BooMan
    Tue Dec 6th, 2011 at 10:45:26 PM EST

    The president gave a speech today that was supposed to be reminiscent of a speech Teddy Roosevelt gave in 1910. I’ll probably have something to say about the speech tomorrow. But I want to introduce parts of Franklin Roosevelt’s acceptance speech from 1932. Let’s remember that the stock market had crashed almost three years earlier and that the Republicans had been unable to repair the damage. It’s as if the stock market had crashed in 2008 but we had to live with four more years of Republican rule. In that sense, FDR’s 1932 speech is similar to Obama’s speech today.

    It’s similar because three years have passed. It’s dissimilar because Obama has been in charge for the last three years and so he has to take a measure of responsibility for the state of the economy. On the other hand, unprecedented Republican obstruction has limited his options. The Republicans created the mess and then resisted all efforts to fix things. And they’ve largely reverted to making the same flawed arguments that led us into a ditch. Let’s see if any of this seems shockingly familiar.

    I cannot take up all the problems today. I want to touch on a few that are vital. Let us look a little at the recent history and the simple economics, the kind of economics that you and I and the average man and woman talk.
    In the years before 1929 we know that this country had completed a vast cycle of building and inflation; for ten years we expanded on the theory of repairing the wastes of the War, but actually expanding far beyond that, and also beyond our natural and normal growth. Now it is worth remembering, and the cold figures of finance prove it, that during that time there was little or no drop in the prices that the consumer had to pay, although those same figures proved that the cost of production fell very greatly; corporate profit resulting from this period was enormous; at the same time little of that profit was devoted to the reduction of prices. The consumer was forgotten. Very little of it went into increased wages; the worker was forgotten, and by no means an adequate proportion was even paid out in dividends–the stockholder was forgotten.


  19. 84 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 9:16 am

    December 07, 2011 8:45 AM

    Bill addressing imaginary threat advances in House
    By Steve Benen

    There are plenty of actual, real-world problems Congress can and should be working on right now. Unfortunately, House Republicans have decided to invest time in imaginary problems.

    The U.S. House of Representatives is expected to consider a bill by Rep. Kristi Noem, R-S.D., to prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency from further regulating rural dust. The Farm Dust Prevention Act of 2011 passed the House Energy and Commerce Committee on a 33-16 vote.The bill would exclude farm dust that is regulated at the state or local level from federal standards.

    The point of the House legislation is to restrict the EPA’s ability “to regulate naturally occurring dust,” and in GOP circles, this has become a fairly big deal. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) recently vowed to “stop excessive federal regulations” of farm dust; House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said one of the top goals of his caucus is “overturning the EPA’s proposed regulations” on farm dust; Mitt Romney has gotten in on the game; and it even came up in a recent debate for presidential candidates.

    There’s just one small problem: Republicans made this up. They’re working on a bill to stop a “proposed regulation” that hasn’t, in reality, been proposed. As Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) tried to explain to his collegaues, “We might as well tell EPA not to regulate fairy dust.”


    • December 7, 2011 at 12:56 pm

      The GOP is focusing on “fairy dust” while people are actually dying and sleeping in their cars. This is a disgrace. They haven’t done a single thing to help fix the economy in these past three years.

  20. December 7, 2011 at 9:31 am

    I want to commend you Chips on the six-million hits. This Is a great accomplishment, and says oh so much about you and your creation here. Carry on my Friend, Congratulations 🙂

    President Obama’s speech on yesterday In Kansas, ummmm how should I say, well, was one of his best ever. This man knows how to communicate to the People and the World. It’s just sooooooooooooooo refreshing to hear Good Sound Common Sense language In the the political arena. Obama/Biden 2012, yes we can, and the changy hopey thing, Is working out 🙂 🙂 Yes, Yes, and Yes 😀

  21. 87 dotster3
    December 7, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Must see—–Colbert’s Donald Trumptacular—-and Colbert’s announcement of his own South Carolina Serious Classy Republican Debate:

  22. December 7, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Just watched PBO’s speech again. Really magnificent in every way. I loved that it was an appeal but also a warning. About the meaning of citizenship and the dangers inequality pose for our democracy. He talked about so many important issues and the progress we must fight for if we are to be a thriving nation once again. The tone and the language was just beautiful. AND, he was wearing my special tie!!

  23. December 7, 2011 at 10:22 am

    December 07, 2011 10:00 AM

    Conviction in GOP voter-suppression scheme
    By Steve Benen

    Last November, there was a fairly competitive gubernatorial race in Maryland. Late on Election Day, robocalls targeted more than 100,000 Democratic households, telling voters to “relax” and not bother voting because Dems were going to win. It was one of the most blatant examples of GOP voter-suppression tactics in a long while.

    Fortunately, those responsible got caught. Yesterday, a jury convicted the Republican ringleader.

    Paul E. Schurick, the 2010 campaign manager for former Maryland governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., was convicted Tuesday by a Baltimore jury of four counts stemming from a robocall that prosecutors said was intended to suppress the black vote.

    The call, which Schurick acknowledged authorizing, was placed on Election Day to 112,000 voters in Baltimore and Prince George’s County, the state’s two largest majority-African American jurisdictions. Recipients were told by an unidentified woman that they could “relax” because Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) had been successful.


  24. December 7, 2011 at 10:24 am

    President Obama at Osawatamie and “Journalism” at The Nation: Ari Berman edition
    Tuesday, December 06, 2011 |

    Posted by rootless_e at 7:13 PM

    President Obama delivered a great speech on the economy and fairness in Osawatamie Kansas today. Osawatamie is the site where John Brown and other supporters of freedom battled pro-slavery terrorists just before the civil war and also where Theodore Roosevelt described the “fair deal”. Ari Berman, writing in The Nation tried to fit this speech into his narrative in which the President is this disappointing puppet like figure:

    It’s become a cliché to say that Occupy Wall Street has changed our country’s political conversation. But if you want to know exactly how the Occupy movement has impacted the debate in Washington, read Barack Obama’s speech in Osawatomie, Kansas, today. For much of 2011, Obama’s speeches were all about the deficit. Today the central theme of his speech was income inequality—and how this mounting problem weakens our economy and our democracy. At long last, the president sounded like he was channeling his inner Elizabeth Warren. Obama’s pivot away from austerity orthodoxy and toward public investment began with his jobs speech in September, but he’s subsequently sharpened his language and focus in recent months in response to pressure from Occupy Wall Street. He’s now tackling issues of basic fairness and attacking the GOP’s brand of “your-on-your-own economics” in a much more direct way. His nod to Teddy Roosevelt, who delivered his “New Nationalism” speech in Osawatomie in 1910, could not have come at a more appropriate time.

    The level of dishonesty in this argument is simply appalling. The President has been talking about social justice and income inequality since the primary elections in 2008. A journalist could have gone to the White House web portal and looked at the President’s speeches,but Mr. Berman is no journalist so I’ll do the work for him. Here is the President in August – before this “pivot” that has become part of the self-serving narrative of the fake-left.


  25. December 7, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Media meme is not to be believed! I live in Florida, one of the hardest hit states BEFORE the rest of the country caught up…by over a year.
    Businesses were being boarded up by the droves in 2007 and 2008. The housing crash hit us late 2006 to early 2007. Driving down Federal Hwy…runs parallel to the ocean by a half a mile…you could NOT find an open business, family OR corporate owned that did not have boarded up windows with a “For Lease” sign. The closest shopping center close to me was full until then. The only thing remaining up until a year ago was a Target and a Home Depot.

    Today we have small businesses opening up all over again. Not corporate owned but family owned small businesses. There was a Home Front store that is now going to open as a Golf Store owned by a single family. They worked all their lives at the same job, got laid off and decided to open this store. There was a Payless Shoe store in the same shopping center..it closed 2 years ago…now a family owned Pizza Restaurant is opening up. They are in the middle of a major remodel but we cannot wait for it to open. There was an “Eye Glass Hut” that closed at the same time. It is now opening up as a family owned organic Yogurt Shop. It too is going under major renovations. The husband and wife that opened it are laid off and retired from the Broward School Board.

    I talk to people everyday where I work. The Plastic Surgeons office behind this same shopping center can’t keep up with all the business they have. A Dental office next to that same Surgeon….he is busy too. Dentistry is one thing that does go when you cannot afford health care….IT IS COMING BACK TOO.

    Not to many people that I have been meeting are saying how BAD things are…they are getting much better.

    • December 7, 2011 at 10:49 am

      OH, I love this story. It’s so inspiring and uplifting at a time when the MSM want us to be depressed. I’ve noticed things picking up in my city as well. Markets, shops and restaurants are crowded. Lots of packages are starting to be delivered to my apartment lobby. I think this will be a good season for retail.

      • December 7, 2011 at 10:57 am

        Hi Meta….it is great to see you one the blog. I got locked off OFA…still don’t know why…no biggy…I have to get ready to go to work soon so I will be off the rest of the day. I spoke with Gosal…Marilyn yesterday…she is doing pretty well. I got to spend a few days with her in Key West!! Short drive and loved it there. I am buying lottery tickets hoping to win and open a guest house down there. With the proceeds from that I want to open a FREE school for the arts. There are no arts in schools down here so kids can come to my school for free and get it there.

        • December 7, 2011 at 11:01 am

          Oh, sorry to hear about OFA. Crazy. I see GOSAL is on twitter now. Hope you get your dream some day!! Thanks for all you do for PBO.

    • December 7, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      Proudmember~ here’s data which supports what you’re saying, and have been told by others.

      Quickie- Gallup: Americans’ Spending Up 7.6% From Last November

      PRINCETON, NJ – Overall self-reported daily U.S. consumer spending in stores, restaurants, gas stations, and online averaged $71 per day in November, compared with $70 in October. While spending was flat in November compared with October, it remains above the levels seen earlier in 2011 and is up 7.6% from a year ago, when it averaged $66. In turn, this tends to support expectations that Christmas spending will be better this year than last.


      h/t Paddy

  26. 100 maritza
    December 7, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Last night’s fake SEIU “un-endorsement” of President Obama snagged several Villagers.

    So I wonder what the deal is behind this story, but that’s not the interesting part.

    Late Tuesday evening, a press release went out to numerous political journalists with stunning news. Mega-union SEIU had voted to withdraw its recently bestowed endorsement of Barack Obama. That’s certainly not unimaginable — SEIU often takes its own path and has a conflicted relationship with the Democratic party establishment.

    Only it wasn’t true…http://www.angryblacklady.com/2011/12/07/they-knew-exactly-which-buttons-to-push-punking-the-village/#more-62241

  27. 103 defytheodds
    December 7, 2011 at 10:43 am

    O/T: ‘Red Tails’ Trailer 1

    Fans have long known that the daring aerobatics of World War II were a major inspiration in the making of the space battles in the Star Wars saga. George Lucas and his production team have captured the rush of aerial dogfights aboard P-51 Mustangs while telling an inspiring story based on real events in the next major motion picture production from Lucasfilm: Red Tails.

    1944. As the war in Europe continues to take its toll on Allied forces, the Pentagon brass has no recourse but to consider unorthodox options – including the untried and untested African-American pilots of the experimental Tuskegee training program. Just as the young Tuskegee men are on the brink of being shut down and shipped back home, they are given the ultimate chance to show their courage. Against all the odds, with something to prove and everything to lose, these intrepid young airmen take to the skies to fight for their country – and the fate of the free world.

    A high-flying action epic inspired by the heroic exploits of the first all African-American aerial combat unit, Red Tails will launch on January 20, 2012, released by Twentieth Century Fox. Produced by Rick McCallum and Charles Floyd Johnson, the gripping WWII action movie is directed by Anthony Hemingway (“Treme,” “The Wire,” “Battlestar Galactica”).

    Red Tails Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKE1XyrnXM&feature=related

  28. 107 yfoot58
    December 7, 2011 at 10:47 am


    yesssss and thank you!

  29. December 7, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Good morning, TOD! Just so we’re clear…

    No, the Payroll Tax Cut Doesn’t Hurt the Trust Fund
    —By Kevin Drum
    Tue Dec. 6, 2011 6:43 PM PST

    Senator Mark Kirk explains his opposition to extending the payroll tax cut that was originally passed last year: The White House has redefined this as the payroll tax deduction. It’s not the payroll tax deduction — it’s contributions to Social Security. And when the American people hear that we have legislation moving forward to cut contributions to Social Security and drive the trust fund into the red, I think opposition would be fairly overwhelming.

    Everybody gets to put their own spin on things, and this has become a common Republican meme over the past week or two. Unfortunately, it’s just factually false. Normally, a reduction in the payroll tax would indeed reduce contributions to the Social Security trust fund, but last year’s bill specifically made up for this loss from the general fund. The trust fund got every penny it normally would have, and all the proposals on the table this year do the same.



  30. 109 defytheodds
    December 7, 2011 at 10:59 am

    A conversation with Valerie Jarrett:

    Valerie Jarrett pulled back the curtain on life at the White House Tuesday evening, opening up to the audience at POLITICO’s Policy + Politics 2011 Conference and Awards event about a side of President Barack Obama that only a close adviser gets the chance to see.

    Video: http://bcove.me/2mufeiit

    • 110 lovingandlaughing
      December 7, 2011 at 1:23 pm

      defytheodds, thank you so much for the link to this Valerie Jarrett interview. She made me proud!

    • December 7, 2011 at 1:37 pm

      Oh wow – this was an amazing interview! So much “behind the scenes” information from Valerie Jarrett. Even more important is that being interviewed by Politico (or any other right wing rag) gives the Administration the chance to refute their lies directly. I criticized Valerie Jarrett last week for her monotone speaking style, and said that I didn’t think she was a very good surrogate for the President. I take that ALL back! She was amazing in this interview – direct, forceful, engaging. Thanks for sharing this – definitely worth watching.

      • 113 defytheodds
        December 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm

        theo67, I agree Valerie Jarrett was definitely on top of her game in this interview. I enjoyed it very much, too.

    • 114 CEB
      December 7, 2011 at 5:22 pm

      Thanks for the clip; Valerie is amazing. She, like the president, can talk seamlessly about any and everything. I also like how she confirmed to a skeptical interviewer and audience, what we all realized long ago; with the president, what you see is what you get. He is in private as he is in public. The cynics may finally get it by 2016. I am glad that PBO and Michelle have Valerie at their backs and that we have the benefit of her service.

  31. December 7, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Translation: we’re being reigned in by tougher financial regulations. So, we’re getting rid of employees, which will enable us to continue paying out exorbitant salaries, bonuses, and golden parachutes to CEOs. You understand that it’s all about priorities, right? (GAG!)

    Citigroup to eliminate 4,500 jobs
    December 06, 2011

    Citigroup Inc. CEO Vikram Pandit said today that the bank will cut 4,500 jobs, or about 2 percent of its workforce, starting in the current quarter, the Wall Street Journal reported. The move is part of Citigroup’s strategy to shrink costs amid weakening revenue, Bloomberg News reported. The bank wants to reduce its expenses by 3 percent to 5 percent in the next year, the Street reported.


    Citigroup announced in September that would limit hiring only to “critical” jobs as regulations on minimum capital levels go into effect, Bloomberg News reported. “Financial services faces an extremely challenging operating environment with an unprecedented combination of market uncertainty, sustained economic weakness in the developed economies and the most substantial regulatory changes we have seen in our lifetimes,” Pandit said, according to Bloomberg News. “These trends will likely significantly affect the competitive landscape in the coming years.”


    H/T Samantha Stainburn

    • December 7, 2011 at 12:12 pm

      Oh the sound of Citicorp whining in the morning. It’s about time they dealt with “substantial regulatory change.” They brought in all on themselves with their utter irresponsibility.

  32. December 7, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Newt is going to miss the filing deadline to be on the ballot in Ohio today. And he’s treated as a serious candidate?

    • December 7, 2011 at 11:22 am

      So tweeting that one. What a joke these people are! One by one, proving total incompetence.

    • December 7, 2011 at 12:10 pm

      Amateur hour. He has a very poor organization, the equivalent of a mom and pop outfit running against national chains. But I’m sure his inflated ego thinks he can overcome mere reality through the brilliance of his mind and the force of his personality.

    • 120 Lovepolitics2008
      December 7, 2011 at 12:22 pm

      I have been wondering if Newt REALLY wants the POTUS job. What was his motivation to enter the race? To become president, or to raise his profile, have a bit of fun, promote some ideas, sell books, etc…? The way he organized (or not-organized) his campaign makes one seriously wonders if he wanted the big job in the first place. Now he finds himself as a comfortable front-runner. What will happen ??

      If he did want the job in the first place, he obviously will go for it now. BUT he didn’t really want it, is he tempted now? Or will he find a way out and use his new found influence to become a king maker, to be the vp candidate even ?

      • December 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm

        I’m beginning to think that Newt being the front runner is the best thing to happen to Romney. Let’s him off the hook of extreme scrutiny. If people are only focused on his flip-flopping, then they aren’t paying attention to the policies that his backers will want him to implement: deregulation, more tax cuts for the wealthy – creating a wealth-friendly environment. He’ll skate into the General with people seeing him as a savior to Newt. What he’s forgetting is who he’ll be up against in the General Election – President Obama and his army (of supporters).

  33. December 7, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Bravo, DOJ! Bravo!~

    Feds Tug On Purse Strings Of Alabama Cops Over Immigration Law Enforcement

    The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has taken the unusual step of warning 156 local law enforcement agencies in Alabama that they’ll lose their federal funding if they don’t comply with federal civil rights laws when enforcing the state’s harsh immigration law.

    “As you undertake law enforcement activity under H.B. 56, it is critical that your enforcement of this law does not result in the unlawful stopping, questioning, searching, detaining, or arresting of persons in violation of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, or in the targeting of racial or ethnic minorities in a manner that violates the Fourteenth Amendment,” Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez wrote in a letter dated Friday and sent to reporters on Tuesday.

    “As a recipient of federal financial assistance, your agency is required to comply with various non-discrimination requirements under federal statutes and regulations,” including Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968,” Perez said in the letter. “The federal government may, in some circumstances, terminate federal funds or bring a civil lawsuit in federal court seeking affirmative relief to enforce Title VI, the Safe Streets Act of 1968,” Perez said in the letter. “The federal government may, in some circumstances, terminate federal funds or bring a civil lawsuit in federal court seeking affirmative relief to enforce Title VI, the Safe Streets Act, and their implementing regulations.”



    h/t Ryan J. Reilly

  34. December 7, 2011 at 11:21 am


    Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and legislative leaders announced on Tuesday that they had reached an agreement to overhaul New York State’s income tax, creating a higher tax bracket for the highest-income residents and reducing the tax rate for millions of middle-class residents. The deal came together just 25 days before the expiration of the state’s so-called millionaires’ tax — actually a surcharge on all individuals earning over $200,000 a year. The proposed tax overhaul would result in most residents’ being taxed next year at a lower rate than this year.

    Mr. Cuomo, who as governor has repeatedly opposed tax increases as well as proposals to renew the surcharge, released a video message on Tuesday saying that the new top bracket would help address the projected $3.5 billion budget gap that the state is facing next year. “While I am against higher taxes, and I believe our long-term economic future for this state is enhanced by in fact lowering taxes to make us more competitive, to deal with this emergency, short-term, we do need additional revenue,” Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, said. “If I were to close the entire gap by budget cuts, it would decimate essential services, doing real harm to the state’s economy and strangling local governments all across this state.”



    h/t Thomas Kaplan

  35. 125 donna dem 4 obama
    December 7, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Good Morning TOD Fam.

    Just as a reminder for anyone who watches cable “news” shows on a regular basis please keep in mind that it is a statistical fact that the media will cover President Obama negatively day in and day out. This includes what’s perceived as “Progressive Media” (MSNBC) as well.

    The Pew Research Study:


    “One man running for president has suffered the most unrelentingly negative treatment of all: Barack Obama. Though covered largely as president rather than a candidate, negative assessments of Obama have outweighed positive by a ratio of almost 4-to-1. The assessments of the president in the media were substantially more negative than positive in every one of the 23 weeks studied. In no week during these five months was more than 10% of the coverage about the President positive in tone.”


    This is why there is a perception that his policies have failed even though he is one of the most successful Presidents in modern day history. It is also why people are misinformed such as the “supporter” who wrote the apology op-ed.

    We are strong Obama supporters on this site and I would love to see us put our heads together to come up with a way to change this negative reporting dynamic by our media before we get into 100% campaign mode. We really need a media-bomb team made up of people all over who supports this President and who are relentless about pressing our media to tell the whole truth.

    I don’t think it can just be tweets or just emails or just phone calls it has to be all of it. Done is mass numbers to turn this around. Someone like Tweety has never responded (that I know of) to any tweets sent to him but I bet he would respond to a few hundred phone calls made to his boss. I’m just throwing out ideas here and would love to get your opinion.

    I just don’t think we can sit back and constantly that the incoming fire without firing back and we are the Presidents foot soldiers so I just felt like we could be doing something rather than just watching this malign of our President take place right before our eyes

    • December 7, 2011 at 11:33 am

      Donna dem, Let’s go….let’s do it!

    • 127 eveingeorgia
      December 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      I’m in. We do need an effective strategy, as well as lots of people. Will be thinking and watching here for new ideas.

    • 128 dotster3
      December 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm

      Yes, this is what we should be focused on. I appreciate all the avalanche of news people are posting here, but at this critical time as we’re approaching Go Time in the presidential campaign, we should all be concentrating on what we can do to combat media negativity and help President Obama get re-elected. I would like to see all energy directed toward this goal. We don’t have the luxury or time to get distracted by peripheral news items now. It’s time to narrow the focus. One of the things I try to do is post positive Obama comments on news sites across the country, especially in projected toss-up states. I think it’s a good idea to spread our wings so not all of our “brilliant” commentary is with each other—-it’s more critical, in my opinion, to spread some truths where it is lacking. I use many of the great insights from here and try to spread them around a bit, far and wide. So much energy is wasted, imho, on fights with media on twitter etc.—-I don’t think that is going to make the news media suddenly change their habits—–Tapper is not going to suddenly go “Aha! I am going to vote for Obama now since I received that angry tweet and will only talk about him in a positive light now.” I think we need to try to reach the voters in other ways, go around the media, as has been suggested, as a solution to the sorry state of our present day journalism and punditry failure.

      • December 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm

        Dotster~ I understand the overall point that you’re making but I tend to believe that much of the news that is posted here benefits those who lurk and aren’t really political junkies, per se, or who don’t have the time to sort through various media outlets to read about current events. As a matter of fact, many of the articles go a long way in pointing out the hypocrisy of not only the GOP but the media itself. In addition, these articles can be used to refute claims that are made by the same.

        How is that a bad thing? Why does it have to be either/or? Isn’t it possible to utilize both the information we have on hand and what you’re suggesting to combat media negativity? In my opinion, while some information may seem “peripheral” there is news that we should keep abreast of, such as that which pertains to foreign countries and their perspectives about this country. Granted, it’s not everyone’s cup of tea and some may find it uninteresting but I think it’s crucial simply because the world is shrinking and what happens abroad usually effects the U.S. in some form or fashion. That said, I don’t think it’s ever a good thing to operate in a vacuum because it isn’t realistic. Just my two cents…

        • December 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm

          I just wanted to add that I’m not disagreeing with what you said, dotster. Perhaps there is a need to limit the types of articles that are posted which don’t add to effort of re-electing the POTUS, but i imagine that decision would be up to Chips and the TOD community as a whole. Thank you for sharing your concerns.

          • 131 prettyfoot58
            December 7, 2011 at 10:54 pm

            We have had 6million hits…there is a reason for this….this is the place to come for info…this is the place to come to debunk the lies….and give folks the ammunition to pass it on…either by word of mouth….or email …fb…etc..

            the photos…the videos …the links…are the lifeline…

            how ever i agree with donna…that we can have a more targeted protest…
            in addition….

            What is Working has asked that we fill in the blanks on her website regarding what state we are in….that is something that we can do now….

        • 132 utaustinliberal
          December 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm

          100% concur.

        • 133 nathkatun7
          December 7, 2011 at 6:58 pm

          I absolutely agree with you, Creolechild. We must avoid the either or solutions. I don’t twitt but I am glad there are people, like the brilliant UT, twitting and challenging people like Tapper and Todd. They may not change Tapper’s and Todd’s behavior, but they certainly call into question their integrity and reliability to all those who follow them. I also agree with Dotster about the importance of posting positive comments on as many news sites as possible. I also believe in spreading the news about pragmatic progressive sites, like TOD, TPV, P.O.U. and others, to friends, family, and co-workers. The more we can entice people to check out these sites the more we are likely to make progress in exposing the false memes about President Obama that are routinely peddled by the media.

          • December 7, 2011 at 8:22 pm

            Spot on! Get the message out everywhere we can. I don’t Tweet or have FB but a lot of the young ones in my family and friends do, so they send out the messages I send to them. Lately, I have been getting feed back emails from some who went to high school with my children 20 years ago telling me they saw links the I have been sending out. They asked to be on my direct email list so they could send the message on.

            Ripples in a pond….you never know how far they will go.

      • 135 donna dem 4 obama
        December 7, 2011 at 1:00 pm

        I hear ya Dotster but I think all methods of communication are good. I just don’t want us to get into the habit of using one to the exclusion of the others. Some media types will engage you on twitter but a lot of them will not. When there is massive pushback (such as with the Halperin “dick” comment) we usually get positive results but too often its just a few of us doing it and this is where I think we need to step up our game.

        You see I am not a fan of cable tv. I think they do our country a big disservice but they aren’t going away any time soon so the fact that I don’t watch them is not changing anything and telling people to “turn them off” only works for a day or two. We have to use the power of our supporters to make them change. How to wage this war on the media effectively is the million dollar question.

        p.s. I think the links that are provided by supporters here are essential to keeping us well informed.

        • December 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm

          HI Donna and all who posted to this comment.

          I am happy to help. I have links to local media, we have the names of folks who live in one state. I can help with organizing resources – for example is ANYONE has written a letter to the editor I would love to see it posted here and I can keep a collection at the blog.

          As I read Donna’s message what struck me most was developing an effective strategy. Do we contact the journalists, their bosses, their sponsors? Donna, send me an mote at whatisworking@gmail.com and I would be happy to help in any way I can.

    • December 7, 2011 at 12:26 pm

      I don’t want to intervene politically, but I think I’m going to have to write that article about media operations committing corporate suicide in the face of a dire — now mortal — threat.

      Not to get into it yet, but the overall coverage seems almost tailor-made for self-destruction in the face of major competitors they already *know* are interested in moving in on, if not dominating, their field. Media coverage does *not* have to be wildly pro-President Obama, but their present course has laid the groundwork for most-if-not-all of the national media to “flip” to a new set of companies — to such a degree that I’m almost worried about a new, de facto concentration of even more of the overall industry into the hands of between three and five primary providers.

      And it’s all unnecessary.


    • December 7, 2011 at 12:37 pm

      ‘We are strong Obama supporters on this site and I would love to see us put our heads together to come up with a way to change this negative reporting dynamic by our media before we get into 100% campaign mode. We really need a media-bomb team made up of people all over who supports this President and who are relentless about pressing our media to tell the whole truth.

      I don’t think it can just be tweets or just emails or just phone calls IT HAS TO BE ALL OF IT. ‘

      Hi DD4O, I believe this is EXACTLY what Desertflower and Linda have started to lay the groundwork for over at WiW!


      My understanding is that we will push back with the truth locally using all the mentioned media, and our push back will be focused. You are right that planning of this should be getting underway. I guess we were just waiting for our resident lead organizer (YOU) to give the call to start marshaling the troops. 😉

    • December 7, 2011 at 12:55 pm

      Donna Dem, I agree completely. I think we need to do something that will get the attention of the media by pushing back at them. Perhaps, we need to put our heads together, do some serious research and see if we can do some sort of a mini documentary. There are several actors (Alec Baldwin, George Clooney, etc.) who are supportive of this president. Armed with the facts, I wonder if we can seek to enlist them to help us out.

      We can contact them via twitter, oh, I don’t know. May be a silly idea, but I just get tired of the non-stop barage of negative news about PBO, no matter what he does.

      There is ample footage on the Internet, from just Chris Matthews alone, not to mention Morning Joe and the others. The whole MSM, left right and center are complicit to some degree in this.

      • 142 donna dem 4 obama
        December 7, 2011 at 1:04 pm

        Now Africa, that’s thinking outside of the box. I like this idea of contacting the media

        • December 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm

          I think the first cannon should be a national media blackout day or series of days. They must be consecutive and consistent in Ord.we to be noticeable.We have to blackout everyone, even the programs we love liked Rev Al. It has to be well coordinated and no show should get special favors ie: viewing Martin Bashir bc we like him. We should be sending email, texting, tweeting and facebooking everyone we know to get the word out. Then we need coordinated attacks ie: e-mails, phone calls to each media enterprise one at the same time. So on Monday it could be CNN. It would have to be sustained attack for two to three days. Then we would move on to MSNBC, etc, etc. The key is coordination and consistency. It has to be a full court media blitz. Everyone should have a script and we should repeat it over and over everyday to each media enterprise we go after. It would be our version of a Mic check. What do you think? Maybe we can all chip in some ideas for the script?

      • 146 nathkatun7
        December 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm

        Really brilliant Idea! It’s not at all silly. These people need to be exposed. Sometimes the only way to do it is to utilize famous and prominent people. I also think that creative people can put together mini documentaries of President Obama in action, that can be circulated widely, to debunk the lies from both the left and the right

      • December 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm

        I like this idea of a barrage of invented vignettes or whatever with high-profile players to counter the negative media onslaught and blockade. Out own on-going “West Wing” maybe a series of YouTube videos or a YT continuing series acting-out in entertaining and explanatory ways the real story of the Obama tenure. You know, ACA, DADT, The Stimulus — for Dummies;-)

    • 148 nabsentia23
      December 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

      This is why I still go to Huffpost. It gives me a chance to engage with those on the left who are negative towards Obama. Yes, Huffpost can be a handful to deal with at times, but I was also misinformed and misled. And I want others in the same position to see that.

      Whatever you decide to do; you have to engage those who are presenting the negative coverage. You have to challenge them. I’ve always been pugnacious on the internet and so I’m use to arguing with people over a variety of topics. Once I discovered what was going on, there was no way I wasn’t going to go back and challenge some of the stuff I kept hearing on Huffpost.

    • 149 Puddin'
      December 8, 2011 at 12:27 am

      Let’s get this party started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. December 7, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Great news from LA. Maybe the area is getting a bit less conservative

    L.A. calls for end to ‘corporate personhood’

    included a video of the video from the story of stuff about citizens united.


    Go LA

  37. December 7, 2011 at 11:29 am

    A School Board Member Takes High School Standardized Test and Learns a Valuable Lesson
    December 06,2011

    This really goes to the heart of the morally bankrupt education “reform” movement. Pushed more by corporate interests and right-wing foundations than the needs of the students, standardized tests set impossibly high standards that relatively few students — or teachers — can reach. That’s why Marion Brady, a teacher, administrator, curriculum designer and author, forwarded this shockingly informative piece to the education page of the Washington Post:

    He took versions of his state’s high-stakes standardized math and reading tests for 10th graders, and said he’d make his scores public. “I won’t beat around the bush,” he wrote in an email. “The math section had 60 questions. I knew the answers to none of them, but managed to guess ten out of the 60 correctly. On the reading test, I got 62% . In our system, that’s a “D”, and would get me a mandatory assignment to a double block of reading instruction. He continued, “It seems to me something is seriously wrong. I have a bachelor of science degree, two masters degrees, and 15 credit hours toward a doctorate.



    h/t Susie Madrak

  38. December 7, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Vacation politics: Mitt Romney scolds Obama for Hawaii plans
    by Michael A. Memoli
    December 6, 2011, 3:45 p.m.

    In this political season, even vacations are fodder for political attacks. Mitt Romney on Tuesday blasted President Obama’s planned Christmas holiday trip to his native Hawaii, and the golf games that go with it (see video below).

    During an appearance on Fox News Channel, host Neil Cavuto mentioned reports that Obama is slated to take a three-week trip to Hawaii this time, and asked Romney how long a break he would take if elected president.

    “A lot shorter than that, I tell you that,” he said, pledging to “work my day and night off” to help rebuild the American economy.

    “If I’m lucky enough to be president, I’m not going to be playing, what, 80 or 90 rounds of golf. I’m not going to be going off to Hawaii or any other spot for three weeks.”


  39. December 7, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Pakistan President Zardari ‘suffers heart attack’
    December 07, 2011

    Pakistan’s government said Wednesday that President Asif Ali Zardari is being treated in a Dubai hospital for a heart condition – with one minister saying he had suffered a “minor heart attack,” Pakistani news site Dawn.com reported. More on GlobalPost: Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi blamed for deadly bombings. A spokesman was quick to dismiss local media reports that Zardari may resign, saying he was undergoing scheduled medical tests, and check-ups.



    h/t Amanda Morrow

  40. December 7, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Afghanistan: Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi blamed for deadly bombings

    A Pakistan-based terrorist group, Lashkar-i-Jhangvi, has claimed responsibility for coordinated bomb attacks on Shia Muslims in Afghanistan, in which at least 59 people were killed. President Hamid Karzai has pledged to confront Pakistan’s government, the Associated Press reported. The Afghan government initially blamed the Taliban for the attacks, but the group denied responsibility. Then a spokesman for Lashkar-i-Jhangvi called a Radio Free Europe’s local Mashaal station claiming that his group had carried out the bombings. If confirmed, RFE said, it would be the Sunni extremist group’s first known attack in Afghanistan.



  41. December 7, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Obama Stings And Rebukes The GOP By Redefining American Exceptionalism
    By: Rmuse

    The American dream of attaining middle class status can only be achieved if government starts working for all Americans and not just the wealthy. President Obama has given Americans a reason to hope that America can once again be exceptional by making middle class attainability available to every hardworking American. The alternative is Republican ideology that mandates a population of peasants who barely survive to enrich the wealthy, and a fallacious hope that as the rich attain more wealth, they will permit the poor to stay alive. Although the President did not validate the Occupy movement directly, he did the next best thing by clearly aligning with their belief that in America, the Republican-mandated income inequality and unfair advantages for the wealthy must be stopped and middle class attainability for all is the only way America will be exceptional again.


  42. December 7, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Connect the dots….related to the assault on public education.~

    How Online Learning Companies Bought America’s Schools
    Written by: Lee Fang
    November 16, 2011

    If the national movement to “reform” public education through vouchers, charters and privatization has a laboratory, it is Florida. It was one of the first states to undertake a program of “virtual schools”—charters operated online, with teachers instructing students over the Internet—as well as one of the first to use vouchers to channel taxpayer money to charter schools run by for-profits. But as recently as last year, the radical change envisioned by school reformers still seemed far off, even there.


    Lamenting this series of defeats, Patricia Levesque, a top adviser to former Governor Jeb Bush, spoke to fellow reformers at a retreat in October 2010. Levesque noted that reform efforts had failed because the opposition had time to organize. Next year, Levesque advised, reformers should “spread” the unions thin “by playing offense” with decoy legislation. Levesque said she planned to sponsor a series of statewide reforms, like allowing taxpayer dollars to go to religious schools by overturning the so-called Blaine Amendment, “even if it doesn’t pass…to keep them busy on that front.” She also advised paycheck protection, a unionbusting scheme, as well as a state-provided insurance program to encourage teachers to leave the union and a transparency law to force teachers unions to show additional information to the public. Needling the labor unions with all these bills, Levesque said, allows certain charter bills to fly “under the radar.”


    But Levesque wasn’t delivering her hardball advice to her lobbying clients. She was giving it to a group of education philanthropists at a conference sponsored by notable charities like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Michael and Susan Dell Foundation.



  43. December 7, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Alabama Agriculture Department Advances Plan To Replace Immigrant Workers With Prisoners

    GOP politicians have crowed that driving immigrants out of the state will reduce unemployment by letting native citizens fill those jobs. But they’ve quickly discovered that Americans are simply unwilling to do the back-breaking labor of harvesting crops.

    To stave off the disastrous collapse of state agriculture, Alabama officials are seriously considering replacing immigrant workers with prison laborers who they could perhaps pay even less than immigrants. Earlier this year, the head of Alabama’s agriculture department floated this idea. Now, the department is actively promoting it to the state’s farmers:



    h/t Marie Diamond

    • 162 Betsey
      December 7, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      They should check with Georgia on how well that worked.

    • 163 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      December 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm

      Return of the chain gangs??? GOP — taking us backwards…

    • December 7, 2011 at 4:08 pm

      These people are so figging ignorant! Farm labor requires some skill, practiced efficiency and motivation. You can’t just send anyone out into a field or orchard and say: “Got for it!” Most farm workers have being doing this since they were kiddos. They learned at their parents’ knees and they are good at what they do. It’s hard demanding work. I’m so sick of this idea that any jackass can do it.

    • 165 nathkatun7
      December 7, 2011 at 7:38 pm

      Isn’t this a return to the dreaded Convict-Lease System of the Jim Crow era that gave us the chain gangs? If prisoners are to replace immigrant workers, you can be assured that more and more people will be arrested and convicted on bogus charges so as to feed the agricultural labor demands. On top of that, Newt Gingrich wants poor children to replace janitors, who may be unionized and receiving a livable wage, to clean toilets, etc. Just as the post Civil War “Black Codes” did when they required that children of former slaves must be forcibly apprenticed to pick cotton and do other menial jobs. All I can say is: Welcome to the 21st Century version of slave labor! Given the racial make up of the prison population it does not require rocket science to figure out which racial populations are being targeted.

      • December 7, 2011 at 8:43 pm

        Nathan~ Here’s an eye-opener! And notice whose name pops up…ALEC. Ring any bells?!!

        Working on the Chain Gang: Prison Labor in 21st Century U.S.
        By Suzan Koch

        Private prison lobbies, legislative laws, the judiciary, law enforcement, and racism work together to create a system that supplies nearly free labor for the profit of private corporations. And those profiting from this system include all the major weapons manufacturers. How did things get to this point?


        The modern-day use of prisoners to produce goods for private companies began in 1979 with the passage of the Prison Industries Enhancement Certification Program (PIE). The legislation was written by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) that we have heard so much about lately. Members of ALEC also wrote the proposed—and then enacted—enhanced, antidrug crime laws and general felony sentencing guidelines that followed, in conjunction with the Reagan Administration’s “War on Drugs.” Included were mandatory minimums for nonviolent drug offenders, Three Strikes laws, and Truth in Sentencing laws. In 1995 alone, ALEC’s Truth in Sentencing Act was signed into law in 25 states, thus guaranteeing a burgeoning prison population to be used as almost free labor (currently prisoners earn as little as 23 cents per hour to as much as $1.15 per hour, depending on the skill needed for the job).

        African Americans and Latino/Hispanic Americans have been the primary targets of profit-driven laws. By the year 2000, three-fourths of all prisoners were either black or Hispanic, according to Ken Silverstein in “U.S.: America’s Private Gulag.”



        • 169 Mae who love our CIC
          December 8, 2011 at 8:22 am

          Thanks for this article. Every service organization and the churches everywhere needs to share with their youth departments to help to deter criminal activity.

  44. December 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I haven’t seen anyone advancing the meme that Romney engaged in a COVERUP when he took all those hard drives and documents from his administration in MA after his term as Governor. I’d be happy if we all started calling his exit from the Governor’s office a coverup every chance we get. If he engaged in a coverup as Governor, then he’ll engage in coverups as President. People hate coverups more than the crime. Forget flip flop, that’s weak tea. Coverup is the tag we want Mitt to wear everywhere he goes.

  45. December 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm


    14 GOP Senators Slam Senate GOP’s ‘Unconstitutional’ Filibuster*
    By Ian Millhiser on Dec 7, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Yesterday, Senate Republicans voted nearly unanimously to block Caitlan Halligan’s nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. Only Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) broke party lines to join the 54-45 vote to allow Halligan to move forward — leaving Halligan six votes short of what she needed to break the GOP filibuster.

    The Senate GOP’s decision to filibuster Halligan earned wide rebukes from Senate Republicans*, many of whom slammed this decision to filibuster a judicial nominee as unconstitutional:



  46. December 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    December 07, 2011
    GOP suicide watch

    Last night, following a self-imposed, three-day moratorium on temporal madness, I tried easing my way back into our political condition’s assorted pathologies by viewing merely a few minutes of “Hardball.” Early indications: no change, no improvement, and little relief from the embedded monotony of what amounts to a rolling, GOP suicide watch.

    Which wasn’t half as painful for me as it is, apparently, for some in the GOP. To wit, former McCain-capo Steve Schmidt’s wailing to Chris Matthews that the Donald’s most recent foray into Republican politics is but another symptom of the latter’s status as “an unhealthy institution.” By that Schmidt meant not only the squalidness of Trump and the complicit, “alternate reality” (said Schmidt) of Newt Gingrich’s now-prominent world, but, by implication, the nearly undifferentiated stench of institutional decay: a party whose unrequited establishment has been left to extol a deeply unprincipled superficiality as the last human outpost of principled conservatism.

    Egads. To be holding a Mitt Romney as one’s ace in the self-dug hole. Even Schmidt couldn’t bring himself to evince enthusiasm for his party’s only plausible nominee. Most operatives simply ignore the more clownish manifestations of their fellow partisans’ silly season, but not Schmidt; he invested his network facetime bemoaning the GOP’s repeal of Moynihan’s political dictum of the right to opinion-creation but not facts.


  47. December 7, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    December 07, 2011 11:25 AM
    NFIB vs. GOP talking points
    By Steve Benen

    When it comes to the larger economic debate, Democrats and Republicans agree on basically one point: the status quo isn’t very good. On everything else, the parties part ways.

    This includes the root problems causing the weak economic conditions. For Democrats, liberals, economists, financial analysts, the Fed, the IMF, Treasury officials, the CBO, and even mildly-observant people, the problem has to do with demand: businesses need more customers. For Republicans and other conservatives, demand is largely irrelevant.

    Jamison Foser reports this week that businesses have no use for GOP talking points.

    …A new survey of small business owners conducted by the National Federation of Independent Business finds that not only do more small business owners identify lack of demand as the biggest impediment to growth than any other factor, most of those who identify “uncertainty” as an impediment really mean lack of demand. […]

    It turns out that when small business owners say “uncertainty” is an impediment to growth, they mean economic uncertainty, not political uncertainty. And by economic uncertainty, they mean uncertainty about demand.


  48. December 7, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    The Christianist Standard
    Serial adultery? Fine. Mormonism? Er …

    Gingrich’s favorable rating among white evangelical likely caucus-goers is 60 percent – compared to just 31 percent for Romney. Only 18 percent hold an unfavorable view of Gingrich, compared to 43 percent for Romney…. More than half of likely Republican caucus-goers (55 percent) say it is at least somewhat important a candidate share their religious beliefs, a figure that rises to 80 percent among white evangelicals. Eighty-five percent overall (including 77 percent of white evangelicals) say they would vote for a Mormon candidate, though just 67 percent say most people they know would vote for a Mormon.

    Another way to put this is that 23 percent of white evangelicals will not vote for a Mormon, period. They even ranked Gingrich’s personal life higher than Romney’s.


    • December 7, 2011 at 12:31 pm

      What happens come the general? I bet they all vote for Romney.

    • 182 nabsentia23
      December 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm

      From what we know, Gingrich’s personal life is worse than Romney’s yet white evangelicals back him more? Does this make sense?

      • December 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm

        It’s because they just want someone who will force President Obama to get in the muck with them, or they’ll call him “weak” for not fighting dirty. They’re forgetting that President Obama is from Chicago – he knows how to do this without sullying his name or good character.

  49. 184 Ladyhawke
    December 7, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Fight For Your Right To Vote


    With the 2006 and 2008 elections not going as well for Republicans, conservative activists decided to make a more concerted effort to restrict voting. As a result, we have seen an increasing number of state legislative proposals targeting voting. As the Democratic National Committee’s Voting Rights Institute explained in a new report A Reversal In Progress: Restricting Voting Rights For Electoral Gain, these efforts typically fall into the following six categories:

    * Restrictions on Voter Registration Drives

    * Cutting Back on Early Voting

    * Repealing Election Day Registration

    * Creating Citizenship Challenges

    * Changing the Electoral College

    * Passing Laws Requiring Voters to Show Photo IDs

    While Republicans attempt to justify such voter suppression efforts on the grounds that there is purportedly widespread voting fraud occurring, a five-year long investigation by the Department of Justice under President W. Bush found “virtually no evidence of any organized effort” to fraudulently impact federal elections and other analyses have similarly found no evidence of fraud.



  50. December 7, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Sandusky’s Own Grandson Could Be Youngest Victim Yet
    Posted by Cynthia Dermody on November 25, 2011 at 10:36 AM

    Two new young victims have come forward in the Jerry Sandusky scandal — and one of them is said to be his own 5 year old grandson! Five! As much as I hate to say it, it’s disturbing but not the least surprising. Whose thoughts didn’t turn immediately to Jerry Sandusky’s own children and grandchildren when we learned he was a family man? It was one of the first OMG thoughts to cross my mind after the scandal first broke. People with this type of perversion do not usually discriminate across bloodlines (not to mention Sandusky’s six children are adopted).

    That the latest victims are 5 and the other under 18 means this is the first time investigators are aware of abuse by someone who is currently a minor and not an adult, like all the other victims who’ve come forward. Sandusky and his lawyer are of course denying all these new charges — and why wouldn’t they, since they are denying all the previous ones, too.

    Here is what Joseph Amendola, Sandusky’s lawyer, said in response to these disturbing new accusations:

    Even if you buy into the attorney general’s allegations against Jerry — which we vehemently dispute and which we intend to vigorously defend against — these new allegations don’t fit the profile presented by the AG. These new allegations appear to be the result of a very nasty divorce and custody battle.

    The grandchild is said to be the son of Jill Jones, ex-wife of Sandusky’s son Matt, who earlier this month got a court restraining order barring Sandusky from contact with her children, two young daughters and the boy. This is likely the custody battle Amendola refers to.


  51. 187 utaustinliberal
    December 7, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Totally OT: Just found out Delaware Atty. General and VP Biden’s son Beau Biden is on twitter. It’s @BeauBiden

  52. 188 defytheodds
    December 7, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Cool T-Shirt from Elizabeth Warren:

    With more than 16,500 votes in, from every county in Massachusetts and every state in the nation, we are excited to announce the winning slogan for our first campaign T-shirt:

    “Elizabeth Warren — The best candidate money CAN’T buy.”


  53. 191 MoObama
    December 7, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Did anyone see this headline: President Obama listed as one of the least influential people by GQ.
    What planet are these people on?

      • 193 utaustinliberal
        December 7, 2011 at 1:58 pm

        Drew Magary makes no damn sense. Because taking out OBL, Gaddafi, Awlaki, having 1M young people obtain health insurance, saving medicare recipients over $1.25B in prescription drugs, mortgage and student loan reforms, implementing DADT repeal, getting the majority of voters to realize that GOP is not on their side in terms of fighting for the middleclass, unemployment dropping to 8.6%, and bringing back 130K jobs from his trip to Asia is not influential at all. These media types really do get paid to spew stupidity.

      • December 7, 2011 at 2:37 pm

        The appearance of President Obama’s name on the list of “The 25 Least Influential People Alive “ is sarcastically dubbed as “Humor” on that GQ Entertainment page; nevertheless, it is “mean-spirited” as one commenter wrote. The not-so-clever author who wrote the hit piece offered a rather classless rationale for why the President’s name appears: “Okay, so we’re cheating a bit with this one. He did order the raid that wiped Osama bin Laden off the face of the earth. But then he used that surplus of political capital to let everyone in Washington stick a boot in his ass . . .”

        Read more here if you care to: http://www.gq.com/entertainment/humor/201112/25-least-influential-people-alive#slide=26

        • 197 Desraye
          December 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm

          Sounds like the author doesn ‘t know how the government works. Hemay need to take a Civics class.

        • December 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm

          It’s so disrespectful. I won’t even read the article – the excerpts are bad enough. These GOP and their water-carriers are eroding the very elements of a civilized society, and undermining the institutions of democracy. It’s very sad to see. One has only to watch speeches like yesterday’s speech to see that many Americans don’t buy into this ugliness. It’s just that their sane voices aren’t amplified via the media – until President Obama gives them access to the bully pulpit. Then we hear loud and clear where the majority of Americans are. They’re with the President.

          • 199 Obama Grandmama
            December 7, 2011 at 9:31 pm

            Who owns the magazine and does the writer of the article have ties to the GOP? Or is this like the cover on was it TIME during the earlier campaign that used every smear that was out there in a cartoon cover? I know I wrote the magazine that time to tell them that it was not funny even though the magazine’s article was more positive than the cover. I said people that walked by and just saw the cover were making assumptions based on that cover. I guess lots of people did the same thing so they got a lot of blowback on it. Maybe this needs the same response from us. I have to read it first to decide on my actions.

        • December 7, 2011 at 3:21 pm

          no thanks. I don’t want to read an asshole’s ridiculous musings.

        • 201 MsKitty
          December 7, 2011 at 3:32 pm

          Yeah somebody needs a boot in their ass alright, but it ain’t POTUS…

          (Sorry for being crude, that type of disrespect really makes me see red)

        • 202 nathkatun7
          December 7, 2011 at 8:03 pm

          I am sorry, but I don’t suffer fools lightly!

    • 203 Linda
      December 7, 2011 at 1:51 pm

      Obama, Putin Top Forbes’ List of World’s Most Powerful People


      What is GQ ?

    • December 7, 2011 at 2:06 pm

      LOL! Yeah…sure…whatever you say GQ. But here’s a perspective that really matters. And guess who’s on the list?

      The FP 100 Top Global Thinkers

      #11 BARACK OBAMA President|Washington

      Conservative critics of the White House may have turned the idea of “leading from behind” into a punch line as soon as it appeared as an anonymous quote from an administration advisor 9,000 words into a New Yorker article, but it is quickly becoming Barack Obama’s most enduring foreign-policy legacy — and not necessarily as the insult his rivals saw it. Certainly, Obama has led: Although he came to office promising to curtail America’s military adventurism abroad and focus on nation-building at home, he has nevertheless presided over more dramatic political shifts in the Middle East than ever achieved by his pugnacious predecessor, even if they are the result of events that he was reacting to rather than driving himself.



      • December 7, 2011 at 2:17 pm

        Adding to what will be a substantial legacy for the POTUS, is this “gem,” which has gone unnoticed, is the fact that he’s shrinking our presence throughout Europe by closing down military bases and bringing MORE troops home!~ (Re-post from a previous thread.)

        Amid cuts, US military withdraws from Europe: US pullouts from Iraq and Afghanistan mask a larger drawdown in Europe.
        September 4, 2011 08:34

        The winding down of these wars — Iraq by Christmas, Afghanistan tentatively by the end of 2013 — will end a traumatic period that saw American military forces do many of the things policymakers had foresworn after Vietnam.

        Yet for all the focus on those drawdowns, the larger strategic change underway is taking place in Europe, where American troops have been stationed in large numbers since World War II.

        With little fanfare outside a muted flag folding ceremony in Wiesbaden, Germany, the final American division in Europe — the U.S. 1st Armored Division, which fought its way from North Africa to the Italian Alps during the war — packed up and left for its base at Fort Bliss, Texas, in May.

        Still based in Europe at the moment are four Army “Brigade Combat Teams,” three in Germany and a fourth in Vicenza, Italy. The lighter, more deployable BCTs emerged from a major reform of the army’s force structure in the past decade and number about 3,500-strong, compared to the 10,000-12,000 soldier divisions they replaced. One of those four — likely one of the Germany-based BCTs, will be withdrawn in 2012.


        h/t Michael Moran

    • 209 Mae who love our CIC
      December 8, 2011 at 8:35 am

      The piece just reflects the validity of GQ. Just another bullshit poll. President Obama does not need GQ to validate him.

  54. 210 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    It’s got a good beat and you can dance to it
    by DougJ

    Steve M. takes young Conor apart for believing that Newt’s previous policy positions should hurt him with the the teahadists. It’s a thorough dissection, but I’d make it even simpler: both of the leading Republican contenders supported individual mandates for health insurance, yet opposition to that provision of ACA is one of the bedrock principles of teahadism.

    It’s true that the real wingnuts prefer Gingrich (who has only supported things similar to ACA) to Romney (who actually enacted something similar to ACA), but I doubt that this reality-based analysis explains the preference. Teahadists want the candidate who rocks the hardest. It’s that simple. Rick Perry rocked when he talked about guns and lynching and Ben Bernanke, not so much when he took too many pain-killers before the debates. Cain rocked when he was 999 all the time, not so much when he was singing spirituals at pressers. Romney never rocks, so he’ll never appeal to the hard-core right, no matter how much he contorts his policy positions. (“Electability”, support from the establishment, and the ineptitude of the candidates who can rock may give him the nomination anyway.)

    It’s just plain stupid to think that past policy positions—and maybe even current policy positions—have anything to do with any of this.


  55. 211 Ladyhawke
    December 7, 2011 at 1:52 pm


    Gingrich Downplays Bipartisan Ethical Reprimand As “A Nancy Pelosi-Driven Effort”

    When the GOP-controlled House of Representatives voted to go ahead with the reprimand and fine, it broke down 395 in favor to 28 against. Rep. Porter J. Goss (FL), the Republican head of the investigating subcommittee, said of the House-wide vote: “We have proved to the American people that no matter how rough the process is, we can police ourselves, we do know right from wrong.”

    On top of all that, the penalty ultimately recommended for Gingrich was a compromise — some believed there was evidence of far more serious violations than the “intentional” or “reckless” treatment of House rules for which he was condemned. A special counsel to the committee concluded that Gingrich had both broken federal tax law and lied to the Ethics Committee about it. Nevertheless, in order to expedite the proceedings and avoid months of “turmoil,” multiple counts against Gingrich were combined during negotiations with the speaker:


  56. 212 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 1:54 pm


    CUT: 650 billion — Special education, student aid, asst to low-income schools
    GIVEN TO RICH: 690 billion – Bush tax cuts for wealthiest 2%

    CUT: 310 billion — National Institutes of Health
    GIVEN TO RICH: 321 billion – Extra benefits for itemized deductions for wealthiest­

    CUT: 100 billion — Center for Disease Control and FDA
    GIVEN TO RICH: 129 billion – Subsidies for foreign profits

    CUT: 98 billion — Head Start and Child Care
    GIVEN TO RICH: 97.5 billion — Subsidies for business inventorie­­­s

    CUT: 47 billion — Energy grants for low income families
    GIVEN TO RICH: 44 billion — Subsidies for oil and gas programs

    CUT: 20 billion — Job training for unemployed adults
    GIVEN TO RICH: 21.4 billion — Loophole for hedge fund/priva­­­te equity fund managers

    CUT: 11 billion — After school tutoring programs
    GIVEN TO RICH: 10 billion — Tax break on loans for vacation homes and yachts

    h/t to danneb1024 poster at HP

  57. December 7, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    President Obama won’t go to Hawaii while payroll tax is in limbo
    By Alexander Bolton – 12/07/11 01:19 PM ET
    President Obama is not vacationing in Hawaii with his wife and children while the extension of the payroll tax holiday remains in limbo, and has warned GOP congressional leaders to stay in town as well.
    Obama had planned to fly to Hawaii with his family on Dec. 17 and stay there through New Year’s.


    • 217 Linda
      December 7, 2011 at 2:07 pm

      Are they giving Romney credit for this ? Geesh

    • 224 Pamela
      December 7, 2011 at 9:40 pm

      There is no end to their selfishness: they work 3 days a week, MAX, while the entire world watches PBO working 7 days a week, non-stop, with every so called vacation he has tried to take so far interrupted by something or other….. He has had no rest. I hope to he’ll he does not let them go anywhere until they come to some kind of reality. It pains me that he has to be without his family, knowing how much love there is among them, and how he draws strength and energy from his family bonds. God bless PBO, he is the most and the best!

  58. December 7, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    A Democratic lawmaker said Wednesday on the House floor that Republican legislators around the country are purposefully trying to deny blacks the right to vote by pushing for voter identification laws.

    “It’s no coincidence that a disproportionate number of these affected voters come from communities of color as well as the poor, the elderly and students,” said Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), a former chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus. 


  59. December 7, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    Hi Guys,

    Could everyone pls twitter @Sen_JoeManchin & SenMarkKirk & Explain what pieces of SHIT they are that they refuse to vote YES for Payroll Tax Cut & u/e extension. Thanks, they deserve to be pounded. They’re sooooo worried about the debt & SocSec will nevvvvvver get paid back! Total liars & pieces of shit. Anyway, if you have time 🙂

  60. 230 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    December 07, 2011 12:25 PM

    ACA delivers big savings for seniors
    By Steve Benen

    Most of the Affordable Care Act won’t take effect for a few years — and if court rulings and the 2012 elections go a certain way, it may not take effect at all — but there’s already evidence that the reform law is working.

    It’s making a big difference in providing coverage for young adults; it’s providing treatment options for women like Spike Dolomite Ward; and it’s slowing the growth in Medicare spending.

    It’s also, as Jonathan Cohn explained, saving seniors quite a bit of money on prescription medication.

    Under the terms of the Affordable Care Act — yes, Obamacare — pharmaceutical companies provide a 50 percent discount on name-brand drugs for seniors who hit the “donut hole.” The donut hole is the gap in coverage that begins once an individual Medicare beneficiary has purchased $2,840 in drugs over the course of a year. At that point, the beneficiary becomes completely responsible for prescription costs — in other words, he or she has to pay for them out of his pocket — until he or she has spent another $3,600.


  61. 231 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    They hide or run away.

  62. 232 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Los Angeles City Council Unanimously Votes That Corporations Are Not People | By an 11-0 vote, the Los Angeles City Council approved a resolution declaring that corporations are not entitled to the same rights as people, especially in the context of money and politics.

    The resolution, which needs to be approved by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, is non-binding. Nevertheless, a packed chamber that included many Occupy L.A. members erupted into a standing ovation when the city’s lawmakers showed that they understand the Constitution better than five members of the U.S. Supreme Court.

    • December 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm

      Excellent development.

      “city’s lawmakers showed that they understand the Constitution better than five members of the U.S. Supreme Court.


    • December 7, 2011 at 3:43 pm

      The Occupy LA people should be thrilled with the LA City Council. They were the first group to unanimously endorse the Occupy movement early on, and I think that is part of the reason why the LA police department were extremely well behaved during the early parts of the Occupy proceedings (bringing them raincoats and hot chocolate during the first weekend of the occupation when we had LA rain “storms” here). I’m not sure what happened in that last raid, where hundreds ended up arrested, and I don’t agree with the Occupy plans to shut down ports – when LA is so desperate for economic progress. But, I am proud of the relationship between the LA City Council, LAPD and the rational members of the Occupy movement. It’s been nice to see.

  63. 236 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    December 07, 2011 1:00 PM

    What in the world is Romney talking about?
    By Steve Benen

    In presenting a fairly detailed picture of his economic worldview, President Obama explained yesterday that “the free market is the greatest force for economic progress in human history. It’s led to a prosperity and a standard of living unmatched by the rest of the world.”

    And yet, there was Mitt Romney this morning, claiming that the president longs for some kind of dreary, Soviet-style economic oppression for America’s future.

    “[Obama] seeks to replace our merit-based society with an entitlement society. In an entitlement society, everyone receives the same or similar rewards, regardless of education, effort and willingness to take risk. That which is earned by some is redistributed to the others. And the only people to enjoy truly disproportionate rewards are the people who do the redistributing — the government.

    “Entitlement societies are praised in academic circles, far removed from the reality of a competitive world. Opportunity is replaced by the certainty that everyone in an entitlement society will enjoy nearly the same rewards. But there is another certainty: they will be poor.

    “In an entitlement society, the invigorating pursuit of happiness is replaced by the deadening reality that there is no prospect of a better tomorrow.”

    From time to time, political observers get stuck in a debate for which there is no clear answer: are Republicans like Romney liars or fools?


    • December 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm

      Infuriating. President Obama clearly laid out that in America, hard work is supposed to result in just rewards. This distortion from Romney just goes to show that he’s bankrupt of ideas, and has to resort to lies and manipulations. Romney’s insistence that the rich continue to be pandered at the cost of the middle class is so pathetic.

  64. December 7, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Omg! GOP strategists asked Republican focus group/. Would you rather kill Obama care or bin laden?

    They picked obamacare!

    Good grief!

  65. 242 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    The ethics report on Newt has been released….


    This should be a fun read.

  66. 243 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Will Iowa Kill Romney Again?
    by BooMan
    Wed Dec 7th, 2011 at 11:51:35 AM EST

    Back in late-May, the New York Times reported:

    [Mitt Romney] has told friends that he felt burned by the process in Iowa four years ago. He invested $10 million and finished second in the caucuses to Mr. Huckabee, who spent a sliver of that amount. Mr. Romney also struggled to connect with religious conservatives and often spent more time trying to convince people that his rightward-shifting positions on abortion and gay rights were changes of heart rather than decisions of political expediency.

    At the time, Romney was making his first appearance in Iowa of the year. At the same point in the 2007-08 cycle, Romney had been running television ads for three months and had successfully won the coveted Ames Straw Poll. It’s clear that Romney did not want to make the same mistake twice. Having invested so much in Iowa four years ago only to come away with a disappointing second place loss, his team decided to focus this time on friendlier territory in New Hampshire.

    But then a funny thing happened. Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, and Sarah Palin all opted not to run for president. Tim Pawlenty went broke and dropped out. Suddenly, there was no real competition for Iowa and Romney lost his easy excuse for losing there. If he can’t beat Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry in Iowa, then what kind of frontrunner is he?


  67. 244 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    7 Dec 2011 12:55 PM
    The Limbaugh-Gingrich Alliance
    The second most powerful man in the conservative movement takes a stand:

    George Will, I mentioned this yesterday, George Will has called Newt a Marxist. Fine; he can do whatever he wants. But I don’t recall him ever calling Obama a Marxist. So there’s a huge effort out there today, and it’s not just today; of course it’s been building. It was Herman Cain before Newt. It was Rick Perry when he came out strong. This effort’s been directed at Michele Bachmann. And it is essentially an attack on conservatives. It is conservatives that nobody in the establishment inside the Beltway appears to want. Republicans and Democrats alike really apparently do not want genuine conservatives winning elections at the upper levels of the Republican Party.

    Kornacki gets inside Limbaugh’s head:

    Part of the explanation has to do with Limbaugh’s status as a leading Romney-skeptic. He announced on his show a few months ago that “Romney is not a conservative,” and even when Rick Perry’s poll numbers collapsed earlier this fall and the political world began treating Romney as the inevitable nominee Limbaugh continued urging his listeners to be open to alternatives. He regards himself as a preeminent voice of the anti-establishment Tea Party movement, so in a way the GOP race is a test of Limbaugh’s clout: If he makes it clear he doesn’t want Romney to be the nominee, what will it say if Romney coasts to the nomination?


  68. December 7, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    An early Russian Spring? Russia protests: Gorbachev calls for election re-run.

    Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev has said Sunday’s Russian parliamentary election was marred by fraud and has called for a re-run.

    “The country’s leaders must admit there were numerous falsifications and rigging and the results do not reflect the people’s will,” he said.

    Protesters were planning new rallies for Saturday as arrests in Tuesday’s crackdown in reached 800 across Russia.

    Key figures in the protest movement are starting 15-day jail sentences.

    State TV channels have ignored the protests, giving coverage only to rallies in support of the government.

    Disregard for public opinion is discrediting the authorities and destabilising the situation”

    An attempt to hold a smaller rally on Tuesday was quickly broken up by riot police, while rival rallies by Putin supporters were allowed to proceed.

    The big question now is whether the fledgling protest movement can maintain its momentum, the BBC’s Daniel Sandford reports from Moscow.

    While the movement began as a protest against the election results, most of the slogans have been against Mr Putin, our correspondent adds.

    The Russian prime minister, who formally registered on Wednesday to stand in the March presidential election, has played down losses by his party, United Russia, which saw its support drop sharply to just under 50% of the vote.

  69. December 7, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    About nine in 10 blacks in swing states still back the president. While 71 percent of Latinos in swing states still approve of Obama’s performance, only 64 percent now say they are leaning toward him or plan to vote for him in 2012. That’s slightly worse than the 67 percent of Hispanic voters who supported Obama in 2008.
    That’s not necessarily terrible news for Obama, however, considering that his campaign hasn’t yet kick-started what is expected to be a massive Hispanic outreach operation. About a quarter of Latino respondents backed Mitt Romney, despite his opposition to immigration reforms supported by many Spanish speakers.

    The poll was conducted before the recent rise of Newt Gingrich, who backs some changes to immigration policy.

    And there’s more evidence that tapping Florida Sen. Marco Rubio for the GOP vice-presidential slot is no magic bullet, with Latino voters rating him unfavorable by a 26-to-24 percent margin.

    Nor is the Occupy Wall Street movement firing up minority voters. Only 35 percent of black and Latino likelies have a favorable impression; more than half either don’t enough information to have an opinion or don’t like what they see.

    Winning a high percentage of Latino support, especially in states such as Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Florida and Arizona, will be critical if Obama is to offset the loss of white swing-state independents.


    But but but…

  70. December 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    O/T -Totally (I didn’t know this info about negro spirituals, but then again I lay no claim to having ANY musical ‘chutz-pa’.)

    I found this in my email, and while I know it won’t appeal to everyone I feel sure it will appeal to some.


  71. 258 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    this ad is BRUTAL.

    BRU-TAL against Willard:

  72. 259 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Such a “Christian” woman…is this what her idea of humanity and caring for others is? I think she totally made me what to puke my lunch.


    • 260 jacquelineoboomer
      December 7, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      I’d love to see Michele Bachmann loaded onto a bus in front of her 27 children, or however many she’s claimed to have raised.

      Really, I would.

  73. 262 gngn
    December 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Chipsticks, can you please add me to the twitter list? My twitter handle is GN192. Thank you!

  74. 263 jacquelineoboomer
    December 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    MSNBC is announcing that President Obama and Canadian Prime Minister Harper will speak to reporters, soon.

  75. December 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    PBO about to appear before the press with PM Harper:


  76. 266 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    Romney Not Really Sure How He’d Legally Stop Obamacare

    Pressed by a newspaper editorial board on how he could legally block Obamacare from taking effect as president, Mitt Romney said they should talk to his lawyer for further details.

    Romney has pledged to issue waivers to every state to get them out of the Affordable Care Act’s requirements, which he told the Washington Examiner on Wednesday would help delay the bill’s implementation while he tried to repeal it in Congress.

    But The Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein noted that under the law, waivers won’t take effect until after a hypothetical Romney administration’s first term, prompting Romney to eventually refer him to the campaign’s attorney, Ben Ginsberg, who was counsel to President Bush for his two presidential races.

    KLEIN: But what do your lawyers think as to why these waivers could take place, because I have the law here, and it says that it applies on January 1, 2017 – under the “waiver for state innovation.”

    ROMNEY: When you say “it” — “it applies”?

    KLEIN: The “waiver for state innovation” — under section 1332.

    ROMNEY: The waiver for state innovation?

    KLEIN: Yes, that’s the waiver that I believe that you’re talking about when you talk about state waivers. That’s what your campaign has said.

    ROMNEY: Oh, they say it’s that in particular?

    KLEIN: Yeah.

    ROMNEY: Then I’d have to have Ben Ginsberg, our lawyer, sit down. If you really want to go into that and tell you what — if that’s important to you, we’ll have Ben Ginsberg give you a call and talk about what provision of the law we would seek to employ.


    What a dope….he has no clue what he is talking about.

    • December 7, 2011 at 3:42 pm

      It’s like a modern-day take on Abbott and Costello’s skit, “Who’s on First?!! Just pathetic…

    • December 7, 2011 at 3:50 pm

      Both the reporter and Romney are uninformed. The President already accelerated the state waivers, on condition that the states could cover the same people with equal benefits for equal or less money. So, does Romney plan to issue waivers that will allow states to get out of providing health care to their constituents or will increase the deficit? Or does he agree with the President’s plan. Which is it?

    • December 7, 2011 at 6:29 pm

      This conversation reminds me of the story of a celebrity (?) who was asked his opinion, and not too impressed by the questioner, called in his assistant and asked ‘What is my opinion of X, Y, Z?’ When he got an answer, he turned to the questioner and said, ‘My assistant says I hate it.’ Of course the offended questioner took himself off in a huff. Willard’s response here is a perfect example of how he’d likely lead were Americans asinine enough to vote him in. It’s sad for our democracy that all GOP candidates seem to have no basic knowledge or understanding of key issues that matter to the public. I sure hope the electorate, in a huff, takes itself far, far away from these GOP jokers in 2012!

      • 271 Mae who love our CIC
        December 8, 2011 at 9:06 am

        The game plan is, Romney will window dress the office and his corporate master will run the country. WE know he will never be the president of the USA.

  77. December 7, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Rod Blagojevich Sentenced To 14 Years In Prison

    Former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D) has been sentenced to 14 years in federal prison for trying to sell the Senate seat vacated by President Barack Obama. The Chicago Sun Times reports from the courtroom that “Blago” told the court he was “unbelievably sorry.” The judge said Blagojevich’s sentence reflected his acceptance of responsibility:



    h/t Ryan J. Reilly

    • 273 dotster3
      December 7, 2011 at 5:16 pm

      I may be the only person in the country who has some sympathy for Blago and especially his family, his wife and 2 lovely daughters. He had the lousy luck of appearing for sentencing when the judge decided it was time to “send a message” and to make him pay for the sins of all who came before him. In my mind, the punishment is too severe for the “crime” that was never brought to fruition—–just dumb threats by an immature, insecure Blago. His life is effectively over, his kids will grow up without him. He will have to serve at least 12 years, will be 67 when he’s released. He will be in prison longer than many murderers and pedophiles. Miscarriage of justice in my mind and a judge which did not disguise his personal animosity toward him and his defense team throughout the proceedings.

      • 274 nospin
        December 7, 2011 at 5:29 pm

        you are not the only one. I think they went overboard on this one even though Blago didn’t help himself by creating all that drama in the courtroom.

        • December 7, 2011 at 9:10 pm

          I totally agree – especially when the likes of Karl Rove, Gingrich and Palin are running free (and one is an actual front-runner for President) and yet, they’ve profited from their alleged corruption. This is extreme and not fair, in my opinion.

  78. 276 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    December 07, 2011 2:30 PM
    Perry hates gays, loves Christmas
    By Steve Benen

    A few days ago, Rick Perry launched a television ad in Iowa based almost entirely on religion. “Some liberals say that faith is a sign of weakness,” he told viewers. “Well, they’re wrong. I think we all need God’s help. America’s greatest leaders have been people of strong faith, strong values.”

    The spot didn’t generate much in the way of attention, so the Texas governor decided to escalate matters in his new ad. Take a look:

    For those who can’t watch videos from your work computers, Perry, talking to the camera, says, “I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m a Christian, but you don’t need to be in the pew every Sunday to know that there’s something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can’t openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school. As president, I’ll end Obama’s war on religion, and I’ll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage. Faith made America strong. It can make her strong again.”

    I suppose it’s possible a message like this might have something to do with Mitt Romney — by emphasizing he’s “not ashamed,” Perry may be drawing a subtle contrast with Mitt Romney, who tends not to make similar boasts about his Mormonism — but it’s more likely the governor just wants Iowans to think of him as the Culture Warrior in Chief.


    • 277 jacquelineoboomer
      December 7, 2011 at 3:33 pm

      I really can’t subject myself to much more of Perry’s thinking, but based on the headline, I would like to comment.

      Whether one is a Christian or not, it’s not hard to find the very few, succinct recorded teachings – passed down orally or written – that Jesus Christ left with the world.

      One of the most important was:

      Love one another.

      • December 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm

        Right on Jacqueline. This Perry ad is a pandering,deceitful piece of horse manure from a dim-witted, intolerant ass. He never met a single person who told him or any child in the country not to celebrate Christmas and he has never heard the president say one single word against religion, nor has anyone in his lifetime said that it was weak to be religious. He’s a bigot, pure and simple. Hates gays and hates any religion but his own. He can go to hell. .

    • December 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm

      Last count : 250 likes:7500 dislikesfor that utoob vid. What as another shrub like asshole.

    • December 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

      I hope the media (snark) plans to ask Perry what examples he has of President Obama waging a “war on religion”. And, what happens to the Muslims, Buddhist, Atheists, Wickens, and all the other religions under Perry? Are these GOP running for POTUS or preacher?

    • 281 Mae who love our CIC
      December 8, 2011 at 9:16 am

      Perry loves Christmas, but yet he false witness President Obama and he lies about being a christian. Greatest commandment is to love one another. He can not stand on his own convictions without disparaging another. Perry is weak. So glad he did not continue to hide in TX. Now most of the country knows that he is just another loud mouth bully.

  79. 282 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    7 Dec 2011 01:16 PM
    Obama Frames The Election

    What I found interesting is what Obama did not say. He made the case for higher taxes on the very wealthy not as an abstract redistributionist principle, but as an element of restoring the common good. Extreme inequality is deeply dangerous for a democracy. When that inequality also leads to buying influence in the Congress, then we are already in very deep.

    I’ve heard many Suskind-style critiques of this president, primarily about his not seizing the moment in early 2009 to break up, nationalize or overhaul the temporarily weakened banking sector. All I can say is that I prefer a president who tackles the most pressing matter at hand first: the potential implosion of our entire financial system. If that meant holding the banks’ hands for a while until things stabilized – and do these people remember what those days were like? – so what? Now is the time, having stabilized the situation, to tackle the deeper problems behind it.

    I’ve been watching a lot of Fox lately to better understand the dynamics of the GOP race. Last night, propagandist Hannity – by far the most shameless of all of them – introduced a tape of Obama with a description of the speech as “class warfare”. And then you heard the clips: about being one nation, built around middle class values, requiring everyone to sacrifice a little, but especially those who have gained so much in the last thirty years. The way Obama has framed this is especially helpful in deflecting the class warfare charge. And, in my view, campaigns that focus on the future rather than the past have an edge.


  80. December 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Political aide to former Maryland Gov. Robert Ehrlich guilty of conspiring to suppress black voter turnout

    A Baltimore jury Tuesday convicted a political aide to former Maryland Gov. Robert Ehrlich of conspiring to suppress black voter turnout during the 2010 gubernatorial election. Paul Schurick was found guilty of all four counts he faced, including conspiracy to violate state election laws and attempting to influence a voter’s decision whether to go to the polls through the use of fraud.



    h/t GottaLaff

  81. 285 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    The Trump-Rove Rivalry
    Heats up:

    The Donald barks back. Pareene gets out the popcorn:

    Rove, see, is operating from the outmoded idea that the Republican party should attempt to appeal to anyone not currently already old, angry, and skeptical of the president’s citizenship. From Karl Rove’s perspective, a man universally regarded as an unserious ass should not be hosting a major party’s presidential candidates and then selecting one of them, reality show-style, as his endorsee, live on television. For Rove, the fact that polls show associating with Trump is a net negative even among GOP voters is worrying, and not, as it is for the rest of us, hilarious.


  82. December 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    The newest jackal kerfuffle:

  83. 289 auni
    December 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Yesterday there was some news about the company that bought Massey Mines having to pay a fine to the families of the 29 miners killed a couple of years ago in West Virginia I looked back at that situation and there had been 14 million spent by mine owners on lobbyists wanting to weaken regulations and widen loopholes for the mining industry. Mitch McConnels wife, Elaine Chao, as Labor Sec. had held the hand of Don Blankenship CEO of Massey. Blankenship had personally donated millions to campaigns of judges and politicians. In the 10 years before the Upper Big Branch explosion 20 people had been killed at Massey Mines. They kept unions out and received slaps on their wrists for violations. Fines that they needed to pay were considered the cost of doing business. This is such a vivid example of political corruption. How can so many middle class people be blind to what this Republican deregulation actually means to the lives of the working class? I know this is off topic, but the reality of what this Republican bunch is all about hits me once in awhile

  84. December 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Lord, when even Gloria Borger goes after the GOP nominating process…

    Is GOP race turning into a circus?

    • 291 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      December 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm

      Hey LL 🙂

      Our4thEstate Bobfr
      @GloriaBorger asks if ‘GOP race is turning into a circus’ – an insult to actual professionals in the circus biz. It’s been a farce since ’08



      • 292 utaustinliberal
        December 7, 2011 at 4:38 pm

        Hahahaha. Good one Bob. You just cut past the BS and tweet truth. 🙂

        • 293 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
          December 7, 2011 at 4:49 pm

          Thanks UT – you’re quite good at the tweeting yourself 🙂

          Here’s my little gift to Newt, today:

          Our4thEstate Bobfr
          On 21Dec1996 Newt ADMITTED violating House Rules: had submitted inaccurate & unreliable info during the investigation – http://t.co/DhbeHIYe


    • December 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm

      Just when you think this cannot possibly get any more bizarre.

    • December 7, 2011 at 9:19 pm

      I didn’t read the article:- Is Gloria only just aware of the amusement factor of the GOP race? That’s really, really slow for someone employed to interpret what’s happening to the rest of us. So what has she been expounding on up to this point? No, don’t tell me. She’s obviously not as insightful as her bosses think and I have no interest in her viewpoint when I have access to our resident experts here at TOD.

    • December 8, 2011 at 8:18 am

      Honey, that dinghy has already been towed away. They were already clowns going to a run-down, cheap-ass, fake-ass clown shown.

  85. December 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    • 298 jaleh
      December 7, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      I live in CO. How could 42% vote for this guy? It is just amazing…but, hey, they voted for Bush.

      • 299 JoJothecat
        December 7, 2011 at 8:43 pm

        Keep talking Newtered…..you are single handedly destroying your own chances of getting the nomination. I hope he tells Iowans he will take us to war with Iran as soon as he’s elected. That should do it…..

  86. 300 Ladyhawke
    December 7, 2011 at 4:02 pm


    As if there weren’t enough reasons already to disqualify Newt Gingrich for the presidency, today he added one more…………

    Gingrich: ‘I Will Ask John Bolton To Be Secretary Of State’


    If he will accept it, I will ask John Bolton to be Secretary of State. But I will only appoint him if he will agree that his first job is the complete and thorough transformation of the State Department and the replacement of the current Foreign Service culture with a new entrepreneurial and aggressive culture dedicated to the proposition that defending freedom and defending America is the first business of the State Department, not appeasing opponents.



  87. December 7, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    From TPM: “Gingrich: I Helped Mitt Romney Get Rich”

    • 308 Linda
      December 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm

      What an ego on this man…..

    • 309 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      December 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm

      Keep them coming NEWT, PBO will thank you later.

      • 310 MsKitty
        December 7, 2011 at 4:52 pm

        Exactly. Newt is full of himself and loves, loves, loves to run his mouth. That’s a combination that was his downfall in the ’90s and it will do him in this time, even if he is (un)lucky enough to become the nominee. So I hope Newt keeps yapping to his heart’s content.

    • December 7, 2011 at 5:03 pm

      I actually think this was a good push back for Newt – Mitt wants to run on his private sector success, Newt can claim that he was part of Government that made Mitt’s success possible.

  88. 314 AnitaW
    December 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Twitter Question:

    Would someone please tell me why I have what appears to be porn stars following me on twitter. Very weird.

  89. 317 rikyrah
    December 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Political AnimalBlog
    December 07, 2011 4:25 PM

    A ‘limited understanding of the economy’
    By Steve Benen

    This exchange, from Mitt Romney’s chat with the editorial board of the Washington Examiner, seems like the sort of thing that might come back to haunt the former governor.

    TIM CARNEY: The European Union might be on the verge of an economic meltdown and the U.S. is already getting involved at least indirectly. They opened the Fed window. The IMF, which we heavily fund, is sending money their way. Do you support this Fed and these IMF measures and, if this were still going on when you were inaugurated, what steps — what US aid — would you be willing to provide to Europe?

    ROMNEY: Not much, because Europe is capable of solving Europe’s problems. I actually think that — I mean, I’m not an economist by training, but what limited understanding of the economy I have suggests it’s very difficult to cobble together Greece, Ireland, Italy and Germany with the same monetary policy and highly disparate fiscal policies. I don’t know how they hold it together. [emphasis added]


  90. 318 Lorraine
    December 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    I adore Jay Carney, that’s it.

  91. 319 dotster3
    December 7, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Haha!—-delicious! The Daily Show’s Aasif Mandvi crashed Fl. Gov. Rick Scott’s press conference and asked him to pee in a cup. This was in response to the legislation that Scott proposed and the Fl. legislature passed which required welfare recipients to pass a drug test before they could receive benefits. A judge issued an injunction and brought it to a halt. But Mandvi said that Scott benefits from 100s of thousands of tax payer dollars and therefore he should have to pee in a cup to prove he wasn’t on drugs. Scott is at 27% approval currently:

  92. December 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Recovery! With which Obama had nothing to do! (snark)

    • 323 Linda
      December 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm

      Is that good news or are people getting back in to credit card debt. ?

      • December 7, 2011 at 5:54 pm

        It seems like it’s a good kind of debt.

        “U.S. consumer borrowing rose in October to the highest level in two years, propelled by gains in non-revolving debt like auto and student loans.”

        Whether we like it or not, credit greases the global economy, and not all debt is bad. Running up $10K in credit card debt = bad. Investing in your education = good.

  93. December 7, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    More in the “Don’t f*** with me” department:

    • 326 Linda
      December 7, 2011 at 5:56 pm

      He did not use the word “veto” in his statement. TP should not be saying that he did.

      • December 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm

        True, he didn’t use the “V” word, but he did say this:

        “Any effort to try to tie Keystone to the payroll tax cut I will reject,” President Barack Obama said in a press conference with Canada Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who supports connecting Canada’s tar sands to Texas refineries. “If the payroll tax cut is attached to a whole bunch of extraneous issues, then it’s not something that I’m going to accept.”

        Pretty much a veto threat.

  94. 328 Linda
    December 7, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    House Passes Bill To Grant Congress Veto Power Over White House Rules


    Sorry for the HP link…but I have not found this elsewhere yet.

  95. 334 dotster3
    December 7, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    One of the most disturbing bits of news, among many, with the new charges and arrest of Sandusky is that one of the victims said that he yelled out for help from Mrs. Sandusky who was upstairs when he was being sexually assaulted in the basement bedroom, and no help arrived. That’s something I’ve wondered about. That basement bedroom was real active with seemingly many victims, and I always wondered where in the world was his wife.

    • December 7, 2011 at 9:20 pm

      Yes – this detail is just as disturbing as the coach who walked into an act of sexual assault and simply walked away – knowing the boy had looked at him and thought help was on the way. This whole thing is so sad and disgusting.

  96. 336 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Presented without comment. There just ARE no words for this racist jackass anymore.


  97. December 7, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    I dunno. I think we just lost tge upper hand- taking into consideration that the way boner says it, then that is how the media will report it—

    NO DEAL: President Obama rejected of a deal floated by congressional Republicans to tie his desired payroll tax cut extensions to approval of the controversial oil pipeline Keystone XL.
    House Speaker John Boehner’s spokesman fires back:  “We are working on a bill to stop a tax hike, protect Social Security, reform unemployment insurance, and create jobs. If President Obama threatens to veto it over a provision that creates American jobs, that’s a fight we’re ready to have.”

    I am not saying how we see it, I am saying that they have a lot of confidence because of our media, to flip this taxcut issue around.
    Ugh! That damn keystone pipeline!

    • 340 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      December 7, 2011 at 6:21 pm

      Jovie, if they want to demonstrate stupid, yet again, let them try that stunt because the President will crush them by saying something very simple – ‘America, yet again, the Republicans are threatening to raise your taxes unless we allow them to pollute the water you drink.’


      • December 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm

        Bob I hope you are correct, but Schumer said that boner will pass this version next week, tell all the reporters that they passed the tax cut extension and then leave for the Holidays.
        That is the playbook they have been using since he took over.
        Needless to say the spending bills also have to be passed next week or the government shutsdown.
        They will attach all those riders, get the media to carry their water, then go home for the holidays.
        Then, they Blame the president.
        Can’t you all see this happening?

        • December 7, 2011 at 6:47 pm

          I will let Chuck Schumer respond to that concern:

          “You have to follow the broad movements underground that affect our politics,” he said. “And it’s happening. And they seem to be just stuck on the wrong side of issue after issue after issue. They’re very good at messaging. They’re very good, you know, they have some media people who just follow their line….but the weight of the issues and the place where America is at is so overwhelming that’s no longer enough to sustain them.”

          In other words the plates have shifted. And the GOP’s having a tough time messaging their way out of the box they’ve put themselves in now that the country’s clamoring for fairness for the middle class even if it means higher taxes on wealthy people. Dems ultimate goal is to break the GOP’s will on that score.

          “We’ve had four republicans now talk about taxes on incomes of over a million dollars. If you don’t keep at it you’re not going to change their view and the purpose is that the public comes to our side on this issue and they feel it.”

          Basically, people don’t believe anything coming out of GOP mouths. They will try that gambit. And they will fail.

          • December 7, 2011 at 7:00 pm

            Recent history- April govt shutdown threat with riders, august debt limit hostage vote, and now this.
            Just saying- they are very predictable!

            • December 7, 2011 at 7:07 pm

              But their predictability means folks will remember they did the same thing with the planned parenthood policy riders than. And passing something and then running out of Washington saying “Either Pres. and senate pass our bill as is or it’s on them” isn’t going to work, especially with the President and Senate in Washington and the House gone home for the holidays.

            • December 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm

              I mean Carney will just respond to any press corp question about the stunt “Jake, you’ve covered Washington for awhile – has this silly stunt ever worked? The fact of the matter is the President and the Senate is in Washington trying to pass a bill that would see thousands of dollars left in the pockets of working families and Boehner, Cantor and the GOP majority in the house is playing games”.

        • 347 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
          December 7, 2011 at 7:51 pm

          Jovie, they will fail.
          Take care.

      • 348 nospin
        December 7, 2011 at 8:26 pm

        ‘America, yet again, the Republicans are threatening to raise your taxes unless we allow them to pollute the water you drink.’

        Bobfr – that was very Obamasque. Keep on channeling the President.

      • 349 Mae who love our CIC
        December 8, 2011 at 9:40 am

        Bob you are awesome and quick on your feet.

    • 350 anniebella
      December 7, 2011 at 7:11 pm

      Jovie, relax will you.

  98. December 7, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    I know, Mark Knoller, but every once in a while he has actual news.

    There goes govt making a profit off of the poor banksters again.

  99. December 7, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    “There’s been so much anticipation of this agreement in Canada for weeks now. When you look at the American media, it’s really not on the radar,” Toronto Star’s Mitch Potter asked White House officials on the call. “I wonder if you can speak to the general differential inceptions of how important this is on the two sides of the border?”

    According to Potter, the Canadian media has covered every detail of upcoming bilateral agreement, while the American media and general public is barely aware of its existence.

    “Well, we certainly don’t purport to speak on behalf of the US media,” said one senior administration official in response to Potter’s question. “The relationship with Canada is a very important relationship from the President’s perspective.”


    The American media ignores Canada! Check!

  100. 361 Brittany
    December 7, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    The American media is crazy especially Politico, if they think that the WH is afraid of running against Newt. The same Newt that thinks poor children are only good enough to be janitors. Newt’s crazy remarks will not be appealing to a general election audience, and the WH knows it.

  101. December 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Has there been any discussion about WHO sent out that phony SEIU endorsement retraction?

    • 367 maritza
      December 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm


      SEIU (Still) Proudly Endorses President Obama In 2012


      Late Tuesday night, a fake press release was circulated purporting that SEIU had pulled the endorsement of President Obama made by SEIU members on November 16. Staff and members of the media then spent a few colorful hours sorting out the real story of what happened.

      So just to be clear:

      We stand by our November 16, 2011 endorsement of President Obama as part of a broader ’99 percent’ strategy to create good jobs now, end devastating cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and require everyone to pay their fair share.

      Any reports to the contrary are simply false.

      Press inquiries: Contact SEIU’s Mark McCullough, accept no substitute, at (202) 730-7283.

  102. December 7, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    By Jeremy Herb – 12/07/11 05:03 PM ET
    The U.S. military has 8,000 troops left in Iraq as it continues its move to withdraw all troops before the end of the year, Lt. Gen. Frank Helmick said Thursday.

    Helmick, deputy commanding general of U.S. forces in Iraq, said in a conference call from Baghdad that all troops will be out of the country before this month ends, as planned.

    As U.S. troops leave Iraq, the question remains how successful Iraqi security forces will be at preventing violence from recurring, Helmick said.
    “We really don’t know what’s going to happen,” Helmick said. “We do know we have done everything we can in the time that we have been here for the Iraqi security forces to make sure they have a credible security force to provide for the internal security of their country.”


  103. December 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    uh oh…Mittens MSM stalkers are sweating the news of Gingrich leading so many polls. When you lose Halperin….????


    Halperin’s Take
    Static analysis: Gingrich will be the Republican nominee. The Romney campaign will have to take him down. Hoping Ron Paul beats Newt in Iowa is not a plan. And the notion that Romney can lose Iowa and South Carolina and still win Florida does not, right now, look like a sensible proposition

    Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/12/07/newt-nation/#ixzz1ftgbX5ze

    • December 7, 2011 at 7:22 pm

      Romney needs to start punching, or he might lose support to Huntsman. Now he’ll never lose enough to make Huntsman a contender, but enough to make Newt’s wins bigger and his losses closer. Folks like Scarborough, Will and now even Erickson pushing Huntsman now are only really helping Newt. Huntsman is only going to gain voters from Romney, so if Huntsman goes up 4-5 points, it means Romney will have gone down 4-5 points. Huntsman is still 4th in NH with that surge and still 5th or 6th everywhere else, but Romney is finished, potentially falling behind Paul in some states.

      Republicans want a fighter, somebody who will take the fight to Pres. Obama and Romney’s first attempt attack ad needed to flat out lie in it – not a good sign for his potential general campaign. Another Mitt problem is that he doesn’t have a pet issue he can run on – he was running on nothing except electability and inevitability.

      • 373 nospin
        December 7, 2011 at 8:32 pm

        saintroscoe – do you really think that Huntsman can make any gains? My sense is they will pick Bachmann or Paul before shifting any support to Huntsman. I don’t see him making it past 2%.

        • December 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm

          Huntsman will only make gains from Romney, he’ll never be a “Not-Romney” flavor of the month. However if Newt wins Iowa and Romney finishes 3rd it could signal to Romney supporters that he can’t win and they might look to Huntsman – but it would only be a week between Iowa caucus and NH primary, likely not enough time to get enough groundswell or messaging to make the complete bail from Romney.

          • 375 nospin
            December 8, 2011 at 11:35 am

            in other years, I would agree. My initial thought when Huntsman got into the race was that he would have been a more effective candidate against the President (although PO would still “crush” him). But given the climate in the GOP field over the last few years. . . Huntsman doesn’t stand a chance. He is too sane.

            It is amazing that while Romney has been consistently losing support in the past few months none of his losses (at least none that was noticeable) shifted to Huntsman. This is a very crazy time in politics.

            All in all – it is very interesting to watch how this all plays out.

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:34 pm

        Romney should have been paying attention to his own GOP race, instead of assuming that he was the nominee and trying to take on President Obama before he’d even tasted a lick of fire. Now, he’s getting it from both sides. That’s a “self inflicted wound”, as President Obama likes to say, because the President had already said he was going to stand back until all the other losers were voted off the island. When Mitt started trying to poke President Obama while the President was busy running the world, he got a taste of things to come, and then also opened a huge wound for others to attack.

        The fact is, the President will take down any of those idiots, as long as thinking people register and then vote.

      • 377 Mae who love our CIC
        December 8, 2011 at 9:52 am

        All of the GOP candidates are chasing their tails because they will never be President.

  104. 378 maritza
    December 7, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Chips, would you please just post a wet pic or something? Tell your family that you just h ave to save the worl or something.

  105. 380 defytheodds
    December 7, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    On Politics Nation Rev. Al really took it to a GOP State Rep. from FL over voter suppression laws. And doing the heated discussion the State Rep. ended up admitting that he didn’t think the League of Women Voters were non partisans even though they have been registered as such in the State of FL for 72 years, and because of the harsh, confusing, and intimidating changes to FL voter laws the League have pulled out and will not register voters in FL. The reason the State Rep. doesn’t think that they are non partisans is b/c they agree with the Democrats on most issues… I hope the DOJ is taking note b/c it sounds like something is wrong in FL, again…not to mention what these news laws do to hamper and suppress minorities and students ability to vote. Rev. Al did great—when the video is posted it’s worth watching…

  106. December 7, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    I’d love to watch him have an in-depth interview with Hilary Clinton…

    • 384 utaustinliberal
      December 7, 2011 at 8:13 pm

      It’d probably go like this:

      Ryan: So Sec. Clinton; you look fabulous today. Who are you wearing?
      Ryan: Is your jewelry Neil Lane or Carol Tannenbaum?
      Ryan: Do you think People magazine is making a come back in the Middle East?
      Ryan: What do you think about George Clooney’s new movie? Do you think it’s Oscar worthy?
      Ryan: Do you think Ryan Gosling was cheated by not being named Sexiest Man Alive?
      Ryan: You know we have Brangelina, Bennifer, and Beliebers. What do you think about you and Former President Clinton being called “Billar?” You’re like the new it couple. *titter* *titter* *titter* *giggle* *giggle* *giggle*
      Ryan: Do you think Ahmadinejad is mad at the West because he lacks a credible fashion sense?
      Ryan: Do you think Bashir Al-Assad would make a good judge on American Idol?
      Ryan: What do you think about Lindsay Lohan doing Playboy? Is that good for our diplomacy & relations with foreign countries?

      Let’s just say; it’d be freaking nauseating.

    • December 8, 2011 at 8:32 am

      I just puked a little in my mouth.

  107. December 7, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    If this is an open thread then maybe it isn’t off-topic to point out that Smartypants has a lovely We Can’t Wait animated countdown clock in one of her posts that I wish we could have on our front page — er — I mean, Chipsticks’ — front-page. Just an idea for some short-term focussed inspiration.


  108. 388 LOL
    December 7, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Can we hire the Huntsman campaign people ? *grabs the popcorn, and nods in approvement*

    • 389 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
      December 7, 2011 at 7:54 pm

      No need to hire them … they’re working for us, for free (thanks to the Hunstman family)!!! 😀 😀



      • 390 LOL
        December 7, 2011 at 8:00 pm

        LOL—who doesn’t want a rich daddy? I almost swallowed my tongue when I saw the CNN/TIME poll that had him at 8% in NH. For a guy who has more or less staked his ENTIRE candidacy on NH, to only get 8% when he has had over a 100 events there while the Grinch who stole Williards Christmas is surging even though he has only been there a few times——- Geez. I guess money can’t buy you everything 😦

    • 392 utaustinliberal
      December 7, 2011 at 8:26 pm

      This is just too funny for words. Democrats and PBO’s team don’t even have to lift a finger. Huntsman just does all the work. Pass me the kettlecorn popcorn please. 😆 😆 😆

      • 393 Lovepolitics2008
        December 7, 2011 at 10:16 pm

        HUntsman is working for himself. His objective is to pick up all the Romney votes, and slowly build his momentum, with the help of the media and the GOP corporate establishment.

    • 394 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      December 7, 2011 at 8:27 pm

      Thank you @jonhuntsman #Obama2012 keep them coming.

    • 395 isonprize
      December 7, 2011 at 8:27 pm

      With this ad, I’m not convinced that Huntsman doesn’t still work for Pres. Obama… 8)

    • December 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm

      I think that’s a completely so-so advertisement that the DNC could have created in their sleep.

    • December 7, 2011 at 9:28 pm

      Web ads are only seen by current Huntsman supporters. Watch the view count on this and other vids from Huntsman.

    • December 7, 2011 at 9:50 pm

      In the comments, someone mentions that Huntsman is a bit ironic, given his own flip-flop over Climate Change. He’s got some explaining to do with his moderate record on certain other issues, too. But, during these primaries, it’s the GOP who are supposed to be battling it out – so I thank Huntsman for that. (or, his father, as the case may be).

  109. 400 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    here’s a great “cheat sheet” for all of you to pass along to whomever….that LOVES them some Ron Paul, because he wants to legalize MJ, and stop the wars. All nice stuff, but not near nice enough to make up for ALL THE BAD STUFF HE’S DONE< AND WOULD DO!


    • December 7, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      This is so true. The Republican party stands for little else but greed, racism, hate, ignorance. They don’t stand FOR anything. And I think that will be the difference between the President and any GOP candidate. President Obama is looking forward to opportunities for America. The GOP is just selling what progress they want to destroy – DADT, Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, Unions, Medicare, Social Security, world relationships that have been restored. It’s all negative.

      President Obama doesn’t do negative.

  110. December 7, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    The Prez has local interviews Thursday at

    WISH. Indianapolis
    KSNV. Las Vegas
    WREG Memphis
    WCHS. Portland.

    • 405 utaustinliberal
      December 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      Thanks for the news Jovie. So glad he keeps bypassing the LAME national media and going local more often. As they say, all politics is local and most people who aren’t political junkies or hooked to the cable shows get their news from local news stations; so it’s a great way for him to reach various segments of the population and spread his message about fighting for the middleclass. Plus, local stations get giddy about having airtime with PBO, so they won’t get all huffy with him and will actually allow him to answer questions instead of interjecting unwanted and unneeded opinions. They’ll also be plugging the segment all day long; so that works in PBO’s favor.

  111. 407 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    This totally made my day:) http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2011/12/we-can-all-turn-around.html

    Daily Show correspondent Aasif Mandvi interrupted a press conference by Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) to ask him to prove to the state taxpayers that he’s not on drugs by peeing in a cup.

    “You benefit from hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars every year, so would you be willing to pee into this cup to prove to Florida taxpayers that you’re not on drugs, that you’re not using that money for drugs?” Mandvi asked.

    Scott replied that he’s “done it plenty of times.”

    Mandvi then tried to pass a cup forward: “Would you pass this forward to the governor? We can all turn around, it’s fine.”

  112. December 7, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Just more awfulness from George Bush’s sick and illegal war. The problems of trying to ID body parts blown up in horrific bomb blasts in Iraq and this is what happens – a tragedy that extends beyond death.

    “This week, after The Post pressed for information contained in the Dover mortuary’s electronic database, the Air Force produced a tally based on those records. It showed that 976 fragments from 274 military personnel were cremated, incinerated and taken to the landfill between 2004 and 2008.

    An additional group of 1,762 unidentified remains were collected from the battlefield and disposed of in the same manner, the Air Force said. Those fragments could not undergo DNA testing because they had been badly burned or damaged in explosions. The total number of incinerated fragments dumped in the landfill exceeded 2,700.

    A separate federal investigation of the mortuary last month, prompted by whistleblower complaints, uncovered “gross mismanagement” and documented how body parts recovered from bomb blasts stacked up in the morgue’s coolers for months or years before they were identified and disposed of.”


    • December 7, 2011 at 10:00 pm

      That’s a horrible job – going out to a field to collect remains, knowing they will never be identified. It’s a crime that the GOP try and pass off this war that was based on lies as somehow having been worthy of this sacrifice from so many. Very sad.

      • December 8, 2011 at 4:52 am

        And people raised a fuss when it was suggested that soldiers be chipped for identification purposes, just like animals are chipped now. If soldiers had been chipped, at least there would have been identifying chips-wlhich probably would have survived blasts and fires. Even if nothing else was found, people would know that the person was dead and could then be counted. Now many people will have to surmise what happened to their loved one instead of being sure.

  113. 413 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    And this from the President’s speech yesterday:


    You simply can’t make a credible case that the president is not out there fighting for liberal causes or promoting liberal ideas. You can’t even say he’s a centrist.

    His pragmatic style of governing may occasionally take on an outside appearance of centrism, but make no mistake, President Obama is a genuine liberal. He’s probably more liberal than many of those who are reading this.

    President Obama is a liberal who understands the only way to move the country forward is with compromise, not kicking and screaming. And that doesn’t mean surrendering your principles or comprising your ideals. It means giving some to take some, and because the Republicans are so out of their depth, and the President is such a smart politician, there’s been quite a lot more taking than giving. Just don’t tell the media that.

    • December 7, 2011 at 8:31 pm

      Yes indeed, imo he is a TRUE Liberal.. the real deal, something these “PL” are not in any way familiar with… their idea of the left is someone who used to be a republican shouting loudly that they’re now “progressive”. President Obama learned from his mama how to be a liberal and then put it all into ACTION as a Community Organizer in Chicago… he feels it to his core, it’s who he is.

    • December 7, 2011 at 10:54 pm

      Thanks desertflower for that piece by JM Ashby on ThinkProgress via bob cesca! I can hear the whiners now..so much pretzel twisting..so little time.

  114. 418 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Does anyone know the reasoning behind this? I was NOT happy to hear this.


    • 419 donna dem 4 obama
      December 7, 2011 at 9:09 pm

      From what I have read of this decision I tend to agree with Sec Sebeilus (sp) decision. I don’t think an 11 year old should be able to walk into a drug store and buy a morning after pill without the consent of a doctor. My understanding is that if you are between 11 and 17 that you will have to have a perscription from a doctor to buy the over the counter drug. The Sec. said that studies showed that kids may not be emotionally prepared to handle taking this drug without first being evaluted by a doctor.

      • 420 JoJothecat
        December 7, 2011 at 9:20 pm

        I heard the same thing. If it’s over the counter, anyone can purchase it, even a child which is not a good idea. I can believe people are upset about this, I think Sebeilius did the right thing and not just for political purposes as the pundits are claiming. There was not sufficient research on it’s use by younger patients and I’ve read that young adult woman have died from taking it so they still need more research on this pill.

      • 421 desertflower
        December 7, 2011 at 9:20 pm

        My guess is that they probably weren’t prepared for the sex that went with it, either. Still don’t like the decision….I’ll live with it. For now.

      • 422 desertflower
        December 7, 2011 at 9:25 pm

        Thank you, donna..and JoJo for the explanation….was hoping someone would know….I think they need to get out and explain their rationale for this, before the crazies create their own. I assume we can find it on Wh.gov…but so many people probably never go there to get ANY info, much less track answers down.

        • 423 donna dem 4 obama
          December 7, 2011 at 9:29 pm

          My local non-partisan all news radio station explained it to me while riding home from work tonight. They were surprisingly great at explaining it.

        • December 7, 2011 at 9:42 pm

          I saw this on the new tonight as well, and I think that the average voters/person who don’t claim the liberal/progressive mantel are not really gonna be overly concerned about the WH’s rationale. The news I watched included “regular” people including mother’s and to a number, the answer was always to some effect that they were ok with the decison because they would hope their daughters would talk to them before taking the Plan B step.

          It was def a small sample, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see that other than polar outcry, it won’t be as big a deal as one might think.

      • December 7, 2011 at 9:25 pm

        Agree Donna dem. Some are of course saying it is politically motivated which is a joke because POTUS would have the support of his base if he did put this out there. So that makes zero sense. If he didn’t worry about his reelection with TARP, Detroit bail-out, healthcare bill failing, bin Laden, etc etc he isn’t going to worry about political fallout of this decision. I would believe what Sebelius is saying until I see otherwise. Here’s her statement on it today:


      • December 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm

        My understanding is that it’s still available OTC to those 16 years and older. I don’t see why this is so controversial. If a young girl under the age of 16 is terminating a pregnancy, there should be some interaction with a doctor to be sure the circumstances aren’t such that require support or investigation into either whether a crime was committed or if the drug is being used more than once. I think it’s a delicate balance between being pro-choice and protecting the health and welfare of a child.

      • 429 Jessica
        December 7, 2011 at 10:04 pm

        I agree with HHS on this one too. Sebelius is pretty good with woman rights and I know she thoroughly thought this out. I think she made the right choice. Extreme liberals won’t like it and extreme conservatives are mad it’s not banned so it falls in the middle (more the left-center but whatever no need to be specific) which is fine with me.

  115. December 7, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    This from yesterday in Kansas:

    Secret Service takes guns, handcuffs from Kansas birther threatening Obama


    • 437 utaustinliberal
      December 7, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      Wow. Someone’s definitely off his meds. Wacko much? Nutjob much?

      The comments in the article are hilarious and rightfully call out this racist birther and the hand the teaparty and GOP have in this birther mess.

      This comment made 😆 😆 😆 “If ever there was a place that Herman Cain could’ve named ‘Dumb fuki fuki fuki stan’…. definitely that part of Kansas would be it.”

  116. 440 dotster3
    December 7, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Clicked on WISH-TV in Indy because I’m familiar with that station and saw that they are one of those granted interviews w/Obama on Th.—-wanted to see if they had anything about it. And yikes, I saw a headline that a man was killed in his home by his pet pit bull. Horrible. But—–I see a little box at the top right corner, asking “What would you ask President Obama?” So anyone with suggestions—-and to counter what will probably be some nastiness:

    • 441 desertflower
      December 7, 2011 at 9:31 pm

      Nice, dotster! Let us know how that goes tomorrow…I can’t think of a question right now….I have an aggravating toothache that seems to be sucking more important thoughts from my head 🙂 however, this forum would be THE PERFECT PLACE for you to let the “nasty questioners’ know the truth….bet you could put some truths in the comments with some links…..part of what we had in mind to fight the lies on a local level…you’re so knowledgeable, it would be great!

  117. 442 utaustinliberal
    December 7, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Harry’s Law on NBC has got to be one of the BEST shows on TV. Every week they address issues that deal with politics, policy, popular culture, and the abysmal nature of what passes for credible journalism in this country.

    • 443 desertflower
      December 7, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      I love that show….thanks for the reminder.

    • 444 symmetry11
      December 7, 2011 at 9:35 pm

      One of my favorite shows.

    • December 7, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      I love that show also, although I was disappointed to find out that Harry was a republican when she got arrested for driving her mercedes in a town that had a law against driving foreign cars in that town. 🙂

      • 446 utaustinliberal
        December 7, 2011 at 10:34 pm

        Hahaha. You can comfort yourself with the fact that Kathy Bates is not a republican in real life and will be voting for PBO in 2012. 🙂

    • December 7, 2011 at 10:17 pm

      I love the show, too, but was dismayed by the rant last week pushing the myth that the banks were bailed out to the tune of 700 billion. See above ^ A total of 245 Billion went to the banks, Treasury has recovered 258 billion (that’s a profit!)

  118. December 7, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Well Ms Chips, I missed you today, but I can’t wait up for you any longer. Hope you come home quietly without too much fanfare (ie. lots of stuff that I then have to catch up with tomorrow). For some reason I’m struggling to keep my eyes open, so I’m going to bed. Good night TOD’ville, sweet dreams!

  119. December 7, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Well Iran did SOMETHING right.

    • 454 utaustinliberal
      December 7, 2011 at 10:42 pm

      I don’t think it’s right to pay people for their organs and for them being organ donors. It’s just a slippery slope to a whole lot of mess. People get into it for the wrong reasons, people might be blackmailed to sell their organs, people in dire circumstances will sell their organs and might not be be given proper protection, proper healthcare, and the like. This is not something I would advocate here or in any other country.

    • 457 nospin
      December 8, 2011 at 11:44 am

      I think this is a good idea. My expectation is that they have controls in place around who is the donor and the quality of the organ so good on them.

  120. 458 desertflower
    December 7, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I’m calling it a night, too….8pm and I’m going to bed. See you all tomorrow:)

  121. December 7, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    lol I saw this bumper sticker in Obamaland Chicago the other day and was struck by how awful looking it is. I think he has good tv and web ads but the bumpersticker is really boring boring boring.

    However, it seems like he’s definitely playing off his former boss with the buttons:


  122. 469 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 7, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Chips I hope you are OK. Good night wherever you are. Good night TOD family.

    • 472 bonkers
      December 8, 2011 at 1:13 am

      From the article:

      “But Warren has also apparently suffered from a Karl Rove-led TV attack ad campaign, which focuses on her stated support for the Occupy Wall Street movement.”

      When the Billionaires who own ALL the MegaMedia decided to give OWS frontpage treatment, I knew what their game plan was, and that was OWS would be used as a “divide and conquer” tactic amongst Democrats. The fact that Rove is involved, someone I named from the beginning of the OWS fluffing, and that OWS is considered a negative for a Democrat and one of the OWS supposed heroes no less, is just further proof.

      Too bad though for the Billionaire media-owners and sleezebuckets like Rove, their old tricks don’t work like they used to in the past! See, President Barack Hussein Obama ushered in a whole new era of American politics, and the Repubs are too dumb to adjust. Elizabeth Warren will be helping create the laws of America in the next year, and I’m thankful that she’s so thankful toward President Obama and everything he’s done to help her and her cause. Warren/O’Malley 2016!!

  123. December 7, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    ♥ ♥ ♥ Good Evening Chips! Good Evening TOD Family! ♥ ♥ ♥

    Barack Obama Quote O’ The Day

    Where you are right now doesn’t have to determine where you’ll end up.

    –from Back to School Event, Arlington, VA, September 8, 2009

    Missed you, today, Chips — hope to see you in the mornin’.

    Goodnight, everyone! 😛

  124. 475 lovingandlaughing
    December 8, 2011 at 12:22 am

    This is a great video of Elizabeth Warren introducing herself and explaining why she is running for US senate.

    I just signed up to donate monthly to her campaign. Would anyone else be willing to do so also?

  125. 476 Dudette
    December 8, 2011 at 1:01 am

    Thursday, President Obama Hosts the White House Hanukkah Reception

    “Hanukkah doesn’t begin until sunset on Dec. 20th, but more than 250 leaders from Jewish communities across the US will attend President Obama’s Hanukkah Reception this evening at the White House. First Lady Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden will also attend, and the President will make remarks at 6:00 PM.”

  126. December 8, 2011 at 1:21 am

    9:30 AM
    Obama receives the presidential daily briefing.

    10:00 AM
    10:15 AM
    Obama holds a meeting with House Democratic leadership.

    11:00 AM
    11:30 AM
    Carney briefs the press.

    12:00 PM
    1:00 PM
    1:50 PM
    Obama is interviewed by regional television outlets.

    2:00 PM

  127. December 8, 2011 at 6:25 am

    According to morning Joe- the president should panic because he is behind by 1 in Ohio to Gingrich and Ohio.
    1 pt!
    According to morning jOe, he should just call it a day.
    15% undecided. Bunkass poll! Lol!

    • December 8, 2011 at 6:29 am

      Send this to Joe–

      African-American and Hispanic voters in swing states still back President Barack Obama by overwhelming margins and are motivated to go to the polls – but Latino support rates are lagging behind 2008 levels, according to a poll of likely voters in 11 battleground states conducted by Brilliant Corners research and obtained by POLITICO.

      About nine in 10 blacks in swing states still back the president. While 71 percent of Latinos in swing states still approve of Obama’s performance, only 64 percent now say they are leaning toward him or plan to vote for him in 2012. That’s slightly worse than the 67 percent of Hispanic voters who supported Obama in 2008.
      That’s not necessarily terrible news for Obama, however, considering that his campaign hasn’t yet kick-started what is expected to be a massive Hispanic outreach operation. About a quarter of Latino respondents backed Mitt Romney, despite his opposition to immigration reforms supported by many Spanish speakers.

      The poll was conducted before the recent rise of Newt Gingrich, who backs some changes to immigration policy.

      And there’s more evidence that tapping Florida Sen. Marco Rubio for the GOP vice-presidential slot is no magic bullet, with Latino voters rating him unfavorable by a 26-to-24 percent margin.

      Nor is the Occupy Wall Street movement firing up minority voters. Only 35 percent of black and Latino likelies have a favorable impression; more than half either don’t enough information to have an opinion or don’t like what they see.

      Winning a high percentage of Latino support, especially in states such as Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Florida and Arizona, will be critical if Obama is to offset the loss of white swing-state independents.

      The survey, commissioned in mid-November by the Women of Color Policy Network at New York University’s Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service, polled about 800 voters in New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Missouri.

      “Black and Latino voters in swing states plan to turn out in 2012 for the Presidential election. 90 percent of Black and Latino voters in battleground states say they are very likely to vote. And of those voters, 93 percent prefer Barack Obama to Mitt Romney,” wrote C. Nicole Mason, executive director of the network, in a memo.

      Of likely voters, 50 percent are more interested in voting than in 2008 and only 5 percent are less interested in voting, she reported.

      • December 8, 2011 at 6:32 am

        And this-

        PRINCETON, NJ — Republicans’ enthusiasm about voting in the election for president next year has decreased, with 49% of Republicans and independents who lean Republican now saying they are more enthusiastic than usual about voting, down from 58% in September. This narrows the gap between them and Democrats, 44% of whom are more enthusiastic than usual, essentially the same as in September.

        • 481 utaustinliberal
          December 8, 2011 at 7:34 am

          Joe is a moron. I saw that segment. His desperation is laughable. Gingrich leads Romney by over 30 points in OH but somehow that’s bad news for PBO? Hahahahaha. Scarborough keeps falling apart everyday because Gingrich leads Romney in Iowa, OH, FL, SC.

          • 482 LOL
            December 8, 2011 at 7:38 am

            Exactamondo…Honestly I don’t know how the pres keeps his approval so high. FOX is against him, CNN is trying to be like FOX, and MSNBC is against him (save the Rev). While Joe laughs at the president, the candidate from Morning Joe, Jon Huntsman, can’t make a debate because he didn’t get over 5% in a poll. How do you like dem apples Joey?

            • December 8, 2011 at 8:04 am

              5% for jon ?when did that ever happen ? The max I saw him was at 3%.

              • 484 LOL
                December 8, 2011 at 8:11 am

                Yes you haven’t heard about the Huntsmanmentum? 🙂 No, he didn’t qualify for the debates, because he had less than 5% in any poll in Iowa. But he tried to to put the best face forward by saying he would rather be in NH- than at an Iowa Debate.

    • 485 anniebella
      December 8, 2011 at 7:10 am

      Morning Joe is a Joke. if he knows anything about this President, he should know that he will not give up . So to hell with Morning Joke.

    • 486 Linda
      December 8, 2011 at 7:54 am

      Morning Junk is a Joke….and who the heck is Niall Ferguson ?

    • 487 nospin
      December 8, 2011 at 11:46 am

      “the president should panic because he is behind by 1 in Ohio to Gingrich and Ohio.
      1 pt!”


  128. 490 anameti
    December 8, 2011 at 7:17 am

    Hello Chips, where in the world are you? Hope all is well. some of us are worried and/or praying for you. Hope to see/read from you soon.

  129. 491 Mae who love our CIC
    December 8, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Good Morning,
    I have a gut check. Newt Gingrich is a tool just like the rest of the Republican candidates. It is just fascinating to watch this charade of the GOP. When Herman Cain was the flavor he consistently polled higher than the rest of the batch. When his baggage became to much to continue to manipulate the polls, he is almost nonexistent. Herman Cain is no different than Newt or Willard, they are tools. When Herman was it, he was told oh you don’t have to answer any questions, just be our fall guy. As the parade continues, the GOP wants its party to accept Willard; by displaying all of his competition the desired result will be, at least he is better than those other ones. The GOP is really not looking to win the Presidential race. Willard is the place card until 2016, when they will really run a GOP heavyweight if there is such a GOP person. Right now the GOP field are all lightweights.

    And the polls are laughable; Just a week ago Herman Cain was the flavor. Now since Herman is out, you would think that Willard would be the front guy. It is Newt who is polling way ahead of the GOP pack. A week ago he was in the the back of the pack. These polls are manipulated.

  130. 492 LOL
    December 8, 2011 at 7:52 am

    FYI The pres has an interview with Steve Kroft (Thank God, an actual journalist) coming up this Sunday. I saw it on GOPolitico.

  131. 493 mtmarilyn
    December 8, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Good morning Chips and wonderful TOD family. Chips where are you! My prayers are with you! I have a very busy day but will be checking in on you.

  132. 494 LOL
    December 8, 2011 at 8:15 am

    I heart Axe

    “[L]ook, for the longest time, Gingrich was not really a factor in this race. He was sort of left for dead at the checkout counter at Tiffany’s. So now he is resurgent and he could be the nominee.”- David Axelrod

  133. 496 desertflower
    December 8, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Morning! What’s going on? I went to bed at 8pm last night….and no Chips. I wake up, and STILL no Chips! You better be ok…the naughty mat may be in order for not checking in with all your kids here…. we worry! 🙂
    Stupid toothache last night drove me nuts! I have no idea where this came from….makes me cranky though:)

    • 497 a4alice
      December 8, 2011 at 8:38 am

      Hey DF. Hope your tooth is better! Just checking in to say hi. I’ve been kinda busy lately, I think what with Christmas, OFA, & work sheesh! I don’t know how UT does it probably because she’s young! 🙂

      Everybody have a great day hope you all are enjoying the Holiday Season!!! Hey Chipstah! Merry Christmas to ye.

      Ho ho ho 😀

  134. 499 desertflower
    December 8, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Can someone tell me why every single state atty. general is not going after these FREELOADERS in every single state? Republicans harp and harp about “Little people” taking “entitlements” and being nothing but a big “Nanny state”…..THESE guys are the real freeloaders that are ripping off the country and ripping off the states!


  135. 502 Linda
    December 8, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Conservatives angry about Obama kids’ “Japanese” lunch menu on Pearl Harbor anniversary.


    I wonder what poor slob has the assignment to monitor the lunch menu at Sidwell Friends. Can I suggest whoever it is learns the difference between Chinese and Japanese food.

    • 503 nospin
      December 8, 2011 at 11:51 am

      Loved George’s response.


      If the conservatives REALLY wanted to be respectful, consistent, and fair on this issue, and on this day, they should all have NOT driven their Toyota’s, Nissan’s, Mazda’s, Acura’s, Infiniti’s, Honda’s, and Lexus’ today, and walked to work instead; they should have kept ALL of their Mitsubishi appliances, air conditioners, and furnaces turned off out of respect; they should have unplugged ALL of their Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Sanyo, and Toshiba televisions; they should have refrained from using their Nikon, Pentex, or Canon cameras or camcorders, and pulled the power on their Sharp, Canon, and other Japanese computer monitors and printers. Cell phones? Shouldn’t have used them, most are made in Japan. A day of silence! But did they do any of that? OF COURSE NOT! No, instead, they picked on the (basically Chinese, not Japanese) lunch menu of two young girls whose father just happens to be The President. Stay classy, GOP!!

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