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“An authentic act of political courage”

Charles Pierce: …. As to the argument that the president “didn’t want this” to open up in an election year, I think he did. It’s too perfect an ending to the narrative of his “evolving position” that he’s been talking about for three years. He saw a clear injustice — the North Carolina vote — and he decided that his conscience would brook no more delay. Look at how carefully he wove his support of marriage equality into the fabric of everything else he’d done for the cause of equality since he’s been president.

He talked about how our men and women in the armed forces (you know, the gay ones who can serve openly because he ended Don’t-Ask-Don’t-Tell, and who can get married in Massachusetts and Hawaii because he told his Justice Department not to pursue cases under the Defense of Marriage Act) shouldn’t be denied a right that we all have — to marry — just because they’ve left the killing fields.

…. I think both the Biden and Duncan interviews were long-range reconnaissance, and I think he got the information he wanted. I have my differences with this president, god knows, but this is one thing of which I am certain: He does absolutely nothing by accident. He has spent his entire life learning how to take cautious, considered steps. He’s damned good at it by now.

…. All of which is not to diminish what an authentic act of political courage this actually is. The dingbats will scream and fling their poo to all points of the compass …. even I can’t be cynical enough to deny that most of the reasons that the president said what he did today he said because he is a child of the civil-rights movement, someone whose fundamental ethics and whose most basic view of this country were formed as a result of the crucible through which the country passed in those years, and I believe he saw that denying gay couples the right to marriage when they contribute so much to so many areas of society was simply the right thing to do.

….. we all had a good laugh at his “evolving position on it,” but don’t we want our presidents to be thoughtful, to be open to new data and new perpectives, and new ways of thinking about things? …..I can tell you that, in my lifetime, I have had my fill of rigid presidents.

….a better and fairer country awaits ….I’m prouder to be driving through this country than I was this morning, that’s for sure.

Full post here

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Thanks BWD

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Liberal Librarian: President Obama has evolved to embrace everyone’s basic human right to marry the person they love. Mitt Romney has devolved from a moderate Republican to a puppet of the Koch Bros and the Tea Party. Enough said.

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See ThinkProgress for more, these are just fantastic - thank you DesertFlower

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203 Responses to ““An authentic act of political courage””


  1. 4 Roberta in MN
    May 9, 2025 at 8:22 pm

    Me too?

  2. 5 hopefruit2
    May 9, 2025 at 8:23 pm

    Is this why the WH didn’t proceed with the concert taping?

    • 6 nintendowii10
      May 9, 2025 at 8:25 pm

      But but but… drone strikes are BAD BAD BAD! The president MUST be primaried…

      OK that’s my emoleft rant for the night :wink:

  3. 7 utaustinliberal
    May 9, 2025 at 8:26 pm
  4. 9 Tally
    May 9, 2025 at 8:27 pm

    OMG.

    “….I’m prouder to be driving through this country than I was this morning, that’s for sure.”

    MEEEEEEE TOOOOOOOOOO!

  5. 10 Proud Former White House Intern
    May 9, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    Love it!

  6. 11 desertflower
    May 9, 2025 at 8:29 pm

    MItt is married to money.

  7. 22 hopefruit2
    May 9, 2025 at 8:30 pm

    I tweeted both UpChuckTodd and MarkKnoller about the concert, yet no response. Obviously they’ve been asked to keep mum. Otherwise Knoller would be tweeting his arse off.

    • 23 hopefruit2
      May 9, 2025 at 8:33 pm

      Alright, Mark Knoller clearly lurks on this blog:

      • 24 meta
        May 9, 2025 at 8:37 pm

        ARRRRGHHHHHH.

      • 25 dotster3
        May 9, 2025 at 8:38 pm

        Now this makes me really curious. Wonder why the change of plans.

        • 26 hopefruit2
          May 9, 2025 at 8:48 pm

          Maybe PBS asked them at the last minute not to livestream because the last time (Red, White & Blues) we were all over it and poor PBS lost ratings they otherwise would have gotten!

          Or it could’ve been something completely unrelated!

      • 27 EricFive
        May 9, 2025 at 8:52 pm

        I totally believe many bloggers and pundits lurk on this site. It is one of the few places on the internet where topical issues are discussed in a calm and sane manner. I’m sure they check here to see what effect, if any, the latest anti-Obama meme is having on his rock-solid supporters.

    • 29 Liberal Librarian
      May 9, 2025 at 8:34 pm

      I don’t know if my head can take much more momentous news.

  8. 33 Liberal Librarian
    May 9, 2025 at 8:31 pm

    President Obama has evolved to embrace everyone’s basic human right to marry the person they love. Mitt Romney has devolved from a moderate Republican to a puppet of the Koch Bros and the Tea Party. Enough said.

  9. 40 amk for obama
    May 9, 2025 at 8:31 pm

    I think both the Biden and Duncan interviews were long-range reconnaissance, and I think he got the information he wanted.

    Damn, I am good. :)

  10. 51 mtmarilyn
    May 9, 2025 at 8:35 pm

    I haven’t listened to any radio or TV today. Really don’t want to hear all the pundits. I just want to be here with friends and whatch a good movie with my husband. This is such an emotional tremendous day! Love our President!!!!

  11. 52 Tally
    May 9, 2025 at 8:36 pm
  12. 54 Liberal Librarian
    May 9, 2025 at 8:38 pm

    God I love my wife.

    She called me at work to see what was for dinner. I said, “We’re ordering in. I’m too emotionally wiped to cook.” She asked why. She doesn’t follow the news at work. I told her about PBO’s statement. She said “Yeah, so? You knew that’s what he believed.” I then talked about the politics of it and she said, “Oh, right. Well, he’s Obama. He can handle it.”

  13. 64 hopefruit2
    May 9, 2025 at 8:38 pm

    Mark informs us - AFTER I called him and chuck todd out upthread!

  14. 67 Dudette
    May 9, 2025 at 8:40 pm

    I’m pulling this over from the last post, cuz it was at the end… well, why not? (and RuPaul’s in it)

    The Grio has a slideshow of some tweets from celebrities, other politicians, etc. in response to the President’s statement today
    http://www.thegrio.com/politics/twitter-reacts-to-obamas-support-for-gay-marriage.php

    My three faves:

    From House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi:
    A great day in our fight for civil rights – President Obama adds his support for marriage #equality. #Beautiful Day.

    From (Future President-Elect) Cory Booker:
    Historic day for justice and equality. Our United States President Obama endorses marriage equality. I rejoice in this announcement.

    From RuPaul (fans of RuPaul’s Drag Race will appreciate):
    @BarackObama…shantay, you stay!!

  15. 71 utaustinliberal
    May 9, 2025 at 8:41 pm

    This statement stands out for me: “He does absolutely nothing by accident. He has spent his entire life learning how to take cautious, considered steps. He’s damned good at it by now.”

    BOOM! This is why I never fret about anything to do with this President. He’s playing 11th dimensional chess while his opponents and sometimes his so called supporters are playing checkers. I don’t believe VP Biden and Sec. Duncan made gaffes this week. They knew what they were doing. The report is already out there that PBO was going to come out for gay marriage. VP Biden is in lockstep with Pres. Obama everyday and he would know PBO’s position on same sex marriage so he gave his answer freely and never backed down. The timeline just moved up. Pres. Obama might as well have been testing the landscape.

    This President does nothing by accident. After experiencing his first political loss in Chicago, he has become more politically calculated, more savvy, and more nuanced in that he always takes the long term view. What he sees sitting down, we cannot see standing on the highest mountains and hills.

    Once I hitched my wagon to Pres. Obama - before he was President Obama - I told myself I WILL NEVER LOOK BACK. I will never for one second doubt this President. His 08 campaign showed me the moral character, decency, genius, intelligence, and strength of the man. I WILL NEVER DOUBT HIS VISION FOR AMERICA. I placed my faith in him as a leader and HE HAS NEVER DISAPPOINTED ME. I am here to enjoy the Obama Presidency; the highs and yes, the ridiculous media and sometimes supporters manufactured lows. 8 years can fly in a jiffy and I never want to look back in regret that I did not soak up every moment of this transformative Presidency.

    • 72 amk for obama
      May 9, 2025 at 8:45 pm

      +1, no, +gazillion, ut. I have seen many shades of politicians in my 3 decades of politics watching around the world (yes, I am nuts) and have never seen a man like him.

    • 74 desertflower
      May 9, 2025 at 8:46 pm

      Cheers!

      • 75 magapie
        May 9, 2025 at 9:01 pm

        ABSOLUTELY. And the bizarre…no SURREAL contrast to his smarmy, entitled, utterly dishonest and unqualified opponent? As if… AS IF that douche could POSSIBLY be a replacement. The concept really is obscene. Makes me sick.

    • 76 Dudette
      May 9, 2025 at 8:52 pm

      Fuck yeah!

    • 77 Roberta in MN
      May 9, 2025 at 8:59 pm

      Well said UT I fel the same way and still do. I have never doubted this man since he announced in 2007. Even my family was getting on me a bout it, and even now too. No doubts. Whoot!!!. He is the man for mankind. Been on the road today, heading for Texas to see the Grandkids for a month. Now that is also something to look forward to. In the hotel room trying to catch up, never happen, sleeepy eyes. :)

    • 78 jackiegrumbacher
      May 9, 2025 at 9:11 pm

      UT, a truly eloquent statement of truth. All I can say is YES!!!

    • 79 daisydem
      May 9, 2025 at 9:55 pm

      Transformative Presidency … I like that term. I have been thinking and hoping too that this Presidency would usher in a renaissance in this country also: arts, music, performances back in the White House, more open to the public, the focus on infrastructure, on gardening and eating right, and taking care of ourselves. I like where it has gone so far (except for the obstruction from the right) and I want/need at least four more years of it.

    • 80 nathkatun7
      May 9, 2025 at 9:58 pm

      UT, I am with you 100%. I have been around a little longer than you have. I’ve consciously lived under 10 presidents, but for me President Obama is the first president that has never disappointed me.

    • 81 sherijr
      May 9, 2025 at 10:59 pm

      right there with you ut :)

  16. 82 betseyc
    May 9, 2025 at 8:42 pm

    Charles P has some utterly wonderful lines, and today he’s given us our mantra for the storm to come. Let’s just keep reminding ourselves that “the dingbats will scream and fling their poo to all points of the compass.”

  17. 83 Liberal Librarian
    May 9, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    Ok, I have the mother of all essays for TPV building up in me. I’ll have to work on it tonight so that capture everything that I’m feeling and thinking.

    • May 9, 2025 at 8:49 pm

      So looking forward to it LL, I can’t find any words today, I’m completely overwhelmed. As I keep on saying, I just feel blessed to be alive while this man is in office.

      • 85 Liberal Librarian
        May 9, 2025 at 8:54 pm

        I think it’ll be about my own evolution.

      • 86 gobrooklyn
        May 9, 2025 at 9:30 pm

        “I just feel blessed to be alive while this man is in office.” — I have friends and family members who laugh at how much I follow Pres.Obama but I always wonder to myself “Why aren’t you as engaged as I am?” They are missing so much of this fantastic presidency. I don’t want second or third hand accounts of his time in office. I want to witness every moment with my own eyes.

        • 87 Walking_on_ Sunshine
          May 9, 2025 at 10:09 pm

          It’s history and we are privileged to be living it. I actually feel sorry for those who can’t feel part of it. We are blessed to have the internet and not be dependent on the media to tell us what the Prez is up to every day. He will be remembered as truly great and transformational. Life is good! :)

        • 88 HZ
          May 9, 2025 at 11:26 pm

          UT, LL, Chips, and gobrookly, our hearts have been touched again. I have also lived through at least 11 Presidents of the United States where I became fully aware of these men. However, I must say that this president has moved like the bow across the strings of the finest violin ever to be played. His music is pitch perfect.

          For reasons that I can’t discuss, I totally believe and know that he will do what is right, fair, and just as our president. He is a man who measures his words, his steps, stands up for the right things to do with all of this power, yet with a humble spirit. He does not play games, except the game of basketball. He really speaks quietly and perfectly with FLOTUS. When he speaks that she is his rock, he means that.

          I feel completly calm, and fine with what we have to do. No, it is not going to be an easy journey, but he knows that, believe me. But he will do what is right within his soul. He looks way beyond where most of the people who are giving him hell. He is a longterm thinker. He is also thinking about the dems platform for the future as well. Let us stay focus. Believe me, he is worth supporting. Stay focus. Trust him. I am PRESSING ON With POB. Love you all, and thanks Chips. I love you back so much.((((((LOVE)))))))HZ

        • 89 Obama Grandmama
          May 10, 2025 at 12:31 pm

          I’m with you gobrooklyn. Only I do understand why they are not following as close as I am as I am retired now. When I was working, taxi mom, wife, and homemaker all at the same time I barely had time to turn around. Since discovering Barack Obama on the Oprah Show pushing his book Audacity of Hope I have become an enlightened follower consuming as much information as possible. Talk about changes I was a registered Republican prior to listening to Barack Hussein Obama. I was not connected to reality listening to the news and watching the debates for input. I did not always vote GOP though as I mostly voted Dem, but was too lazy to change my registration till BHO. I changed my registration and never looked back. I am now a supporter, donor, follower, and contributer not understanding exactly why it took this man to wake me up. I know PBO must win a second term and it suddenly got closer even though I know he was beyond right and brave to comment on marriage rights. I am proud of him yet scared.

  18. 90 hopefruit2
    May 9, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    So let’s see what Rachel will say on this issue:

    • 91 Tally
      May 9, 2025 at 8:49 pm

      CORY BOOKER!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! :D

    • 95 lisalovesobama
      May 9, 2025 at 8:50 pm

      do we really need to hear what she thinks?

      • 96 0388jojothecat
        May 9, 2025 at 8:58 pm

        I predict she will give PBO like she did when he passed DADT, then turn on him and say that Ron Paul already came out for Gay Marriage. We all know Ron Paul has as much chance of becoming President as I do.

        • 97 lisalovesobama
          May 9, 2025 at 9:03 pm

          yup!

        • 98 57andfemale
          May 9, 2025 at 9:52 pm

          No. She gave PBO all the credit in the world.

          But it rang hollow for me. She etch a sketched her irrational and irresponsible, inflammatory words the night before the New York vote. She etch a sketched her insulting stance when DADT was repealed. I’m simply unable to celebrate with her after all the damage she inflicted.

          I’m insulted by her victory lap.

          • 99 0388jojothecat
            May 9, 2025 at 9:58 pm

            Yup. I am not impressed nor is the President. Rachel Maddow is a political pundit who is wicked smart but shallow in my opinion.

            • 100 57andfemale
              May 9, 2025 at 10:14 pm

              Hey, I’m happy she was as supportive as she was. But I turned on the show and didn’t know what she would say and that’s just sad.

      • 101 smoothscotch
        May 9, 2025 at 9:20 pm

        Right with ya…but at least Mr Booker will be there.

        • 102 lisalovesobama
          May 9, 2025 at 9:23 pm

          sweeeet!!!! he’s so sexy. Him and O’Malley. I’m telling you, there are some sexy Dems in office!!!

  19. 103 desertflower
    May 9, 2025 at 8:45 pm

    BAM! http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/chris-matthews-goes-after-karl-rove-abuse-of

    Little KKKarl and his slimey donations may be in big, fat IRS trouble….

  20. 104 betseyc
    May 9, 2025 at 8:45 pm

    Charles P has some utterly wonderful lines, and today he has given us our mantra for the storm to come. Let’s just keep reminding ourselves that “the dingbats will scream and fling their poo to all points of the compass.”

  21. 105 Tally
    May 9, 2025 at 8:48 pm
  22. 106 desertflower
    May 9, 2025 at 8:49 pm

    Must see…best Twitter reactions to President Obama’s announcement

    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/09/481477/twitter-reax-marriage-equality/

    • May 9, 2025 at 8:54 pm

      Just fantastic, thank you DesertFlower, I added a link to the post.

    • 109 Dudette
      May 9, 2025 at 8:55 pm

      Love that Cory Booker:

      “Giambusso from The Ledger asked me 4 a statement re: Obama & marriage equality. I told him I’d give him one as soon as I stopped dancing”

    • 110 Ladyhawke
      May 9, 2025 at 8:58 pm

      Thanks DF, this one was especially poignant.

      ——————-

      amaeryllis

      I’m going to bet people saying President Obama’s support “means nothing” never comforted a 15 yr old gay kid asking why everyone hates him.

      ———————

    • 111 Dudette
      May 9, 2025 at 8:58 pm

      and from Governor O’Dreamy:
      “Ultimately we all want the same thing for our kids: to live in a loving, stable committed home protected equally under the law. #MD4ME”

  23. 112 maryl1
    May 9, 2025 at 8:50 pm

    Hi Chips,
    It’s been a busy day, a great day, and I know you have much bigger things on your mind. That won’t stop me, however, from asking if I could have my “first!” picture from the “Rise and Shine” thread! Could I have a great big wonderful PBO one please?

  24. 116 Tally
    May 9, 2025 at 8:53 pm
    • 117 Sharon
      May 9, 2025 at 9:01 pm

      Just caught the tail end of the presentation on CNNlive with Barcharach with the award thanking President Obama who was seated. Got a glimpse of him leaning closely into Michelle’s ear telling her something he thought was humorous. Very sweet. She’s wearing black with her hair down.

      Don’t know if it aired anywhere else. Seems to me that these performances are never livestreamed (when Congressional medal is awarded). The ones with Stevie Wonder and Paul McCarthy weren’t. My PBS station never shows it on the date other stations do. Comes up almost out of the blue. Will watch it online first.

  25. 118 hopefruit2
    May 9, 2025 at 8:54 pm
  26. 120 collegekay
    May 9, 2025 at 8:56 pm

    Wow the real Mark Knoller is not being snarky. I’m surprised.

    • 121 hopefruit2
      May 9, 2025 at 9:01 pm

      He must have been moved by the performances. Disinfected all the snarkitude away - for just tonight anyway.

  27. 122 Squarepeg
    May 9, 2025 at 8:59 pm

    Wonderful, awesome post from John Cole over at Balloon Juice:

    “My next thought was that I bet people are going to be heaping praise on him, but all he has really done is express an opinion. What he should be really praised for are all the many things he and his administration have done, some of which Glenn mentioned, but that was really just the tip of the iceberg- check this exhaustive list of advances for gay rights. I’d cut and paste it, but it would scroll 4-5 pages.

    That isn’t an “impressive” record. It’s AMAZING. That’s what flummoxes me about many activists. Those are real accomplishments, yet we still had folks (Dan Choi, Aravosis, I’m looking at you) flaming the President. Contrary to what Glenn says, the President stating he supports same-sex marriage isn’t an action, it’s a statement. What is listed here are real actions. Yet most of those accomplishments received little fanfare or were even downplayed by the very same activists who today are doing cartwheels over “just words.” It’s almost as if for some activists, affirmation is more important than accomplishments.”

    This is the basically the same thing we’ve been saying for MONTHS. This is directed at the Dan Chois and ‘nem..

  28. 126 Tally
    May 9, 2025 at 9:01 pm

    I have to say, I am OVERWHLEMED by the love on the web right now. Of course, I haven’t gone any of the hate cesspool sites, but still…. Twitter is ALL OVER THIS in a wonderful way, and such beautiful, heartfelt comments on so many wonderful linked articles.

    I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!

    Perhaps champagne is in order…….

    • 127 hopefruit2
      May 9, 2025 at 9:03 pm

      Yes, it’s remarkable how my mood has improved dramatically from even this morning.. once again PBO is really the balm that this country badly needs. Everyone (except the log cabin Repubs) seem to be in a much better and calmer mood!!!

      • 128 amk for obama
        May 9, 2025 at 9:10 pm

        My post yesterday night (IST)

        I fully expect PBO shutting down all the stupid feeding frenzy for the past two days. I will check in tomorrow.

      • 131 Tally
        May 9, 2025 at 9:24 pm

        Those self-loathing crybabies need to kiss Ellen’s ass.

      • 132 Walking_on_ Sunshine
        May 9, 2025 at 10:32 pm

        Maybe they’re not really gay. What if they are closeted straights pretending to be gay in order to make the Repubs look more diverse????
        (I read their pretzel statement….I have my pretzel conspiracy theory).

    • 133 gobrooklyn
      May 9, 2025 at 9:45 pm

      The bitter and cynical comments are out there. I just don’t visit those blogs anymore so I have only read that they are out there. I won’t be checking.

  29. 134 4morefor44
    May 9, 2025 at 9:01 pm

    since corporations are people, my friends, does the mittbot think marriage is at least okay between a man and walmart, Inc.? better sign a pre-nup on that one.

  30. 135 amk for obama
    May 9, 2025 at 9:04 pm

    so sweet.

    • 136 4morefor44
      May 9, 2025 at 9:11 pm

      i’m still a little unclear why today is more important than the actual real-world changes PBO has already helped get through on this topic and so many others that honestly, impact many more people than lgbt rights. i get that it’s an emotional statement for so many, but not sure i’m liking comments such as that as if all the previous “progress” on so many issues, and is positively effecting millions of people right now, doesn’t constitute sufficient “progress” for some liberals? thrilled by the news today, but also wondering that at the same time.

      • 137 Tally
        May 9, 2025 at 9:27 pm

        Because no other POTUS has EVER said anything remotely close to this. :D

      • 138 gobrooklyn
        May 9, 2025 at 9:55 pm

        Did you read John Cole’s post at Balloon Juice? He said the same thing and its an excellent point.

      • 139 Walking_on_ Sunshine
        May 9, 2025 at 10:44 pm

        It’s the mind blowing courage that takes people’s breath away. Especially people who are used to being treated badly. The President is the hero figure who shows up at moments like this and provides comfort and stands up for those who need a defender. It’s not just this instance. I think of last year when he traveled into the heart of “red” America to comfort the tornado victims. He has spoken in front of people who hate him and not shown fear. Not even when they were openly carrying weapons. He is both physically and morally courageous. He reminded us today that he is a hero.

  31. 141 4morefor44
    May 9, 2025 at 9:06 pm

    glad to see robin roberts being the reporter they called for this. she’s not much like the others, and the white house probably thought it best to bring an actual professional in for such a serious occasion.

  32. 142 dotster3
    May 9, 2025 at 9:06 pm

    Reuters 24 best photos from around the world in the last 24 hours—-see the world—-captivating— and I think y’all will really like #22
    http://blogs.reuters.com/fullfocus/2012/05/09/editors-choice/#a=1

  33. 143 theodorebaxt
    May 9, 2025 at 9:08 pm

    Proud of PBO for taking a stand … I always half-suspected he really felt this way but was afraid of the political consequences of a pro-gay marriage positions. Now he’s standing up for what I think he’s believed in for a while. Such a contrast to Romney, who doesn’t even seem to HAVE convictions. And here’s another contrast-just a couple-second clip, but shows the homophobic side of Romney

  34. 144 donna dem 4 obama
    May 9, 2025 at 9:11 pm

    PBO makes my heart skip a beat. My gay cousin died many years ago but I sent a message to his mother today and she simply emailed me back that “Mark is smiling down on this President today”.

  35. 147 lamh35
    May 9, 2025 at 9:15 pm

    Romney Dismisses Gay Marriage, In-State Tuition For Illegal Immigrants

    “Aren’t there issues of significance that you’d like to talk about?” Romney asks Colorado reporter in a tense exchange. Romney is challenged on gay marriage, in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, and medical marijuana, then asks why the reporter doesn’t ask about important issues…

    • 148 utaustinliberal
      May 9, 2025 at 9:23 pm

      Is he for real? Same sex marriage, tuition, medical marijuana for cancer patients aren’t serious questions? And he wants to be President of the United States? Representing all people? Hahahahaha……I’m so going to enjoy CRUSHING the hell out of this nitwit.

    • 149 theo67
      May 10, 2025 at 2:21 am

      Mitt doesn’t have what it takes. The President had to deal with nonsense about his birth certificate from a loser like Trump, while he was dealing with plans to get OBL with Seal Team 6. He had to go look at mud pieces in the Gulf and swim, while dealing with a potentially devastating oil spill. He had to have beer with a racist policeman and a Harvard professor who was arrested in his own home, while dealing with the global economic collapse and a dying auto industry and attempting to pass a centuries old health care law. He had to address why he wanted dijon mustard on his burger, whether he felt angry and could show emotion, accusations of “Chicago-style shakedowns”,

      This week alone: Israel formed a coalition government and is gleefully looking at attacking Iran without limits; France changed Presidents and elected a Socialist; Greece rejected austerity (and has little to lose); Putin took office in Russia; terrorists were thwarted and some killed; job openings were the highest in four years… but the President took time out of his busy day to address this “insignificant” issue. Mitt just can’t cut it.

  36. 150 Dudette
    May 9, 2025 at 9:17 pm

    “(President Obama’s) legacy was already secured by his ACTIONS, this was something extra — the icing on the cake.”

    - Rachel Maddow

  37. 154 utaustinliberal
    May 9, 2025 at 9:19 pm

    Woah. Rachel Maddow is giving full throated support to Pres. Obama. Listing all his LGBT legacy and accomplishments. She said him coming out for same sex marriage is great but people shouldn’t let that alone determine their support of him. That he has shown by his actions that he has always been for LGBT rights. That he has been lockstep with the LGBT community and has greatly advanced their cause.

    She also reminded people that it was Bill Clinton, a Democrat who put in place the disastrous DOMA and it is President Obama who told his DOJ to stop defending it.

    Wow. Just wow.

    • 155 utaustinliberal
      May 9, 2025 at 9:20 pm

      She also said that his - Pres. Obama - legacy was already secured by his actions and that him supporting same sex marriage was just icing on the cake.

    • 156 Tally
      May 9, 2025 at 9:34 pm

      Actually, it was GWB who signed DOMA. Clinton signed DODT.

      • 157 Tally
        May 9, 2025 at 9:34 pm

        ACK - DADT. I need a drink. :D

      • 158 57andfemale
        May 9, 2025 at 10:04 pm

        No, Tally. 1996. Bill Clinton signed it. Bush may have signed a reaythorization but Clinton owns this.

        • 159 Tally
          May 9, 2025 at 10:23 pm

          Weird. Rachel showed a video of Bush telling Congress to pass it.

          • 160 theo67
            May 10, 2025 at 2:46 am

            I think she was saying that Bush started his 2004 campaign trying to extend the discrimination even further and completely define marriage as between a man and a woman. I don’t think it succeeded. From what I gather, Clinton’s DOMA restricted states from recognizing marriages in other states, but Bush wanted to deny any ability for gays to marry at all, and to make it a crime to actually perform a marriage of gay people.

            Based on the history of the Republicans and gay rights, I’m surprised the Log Cabin Republicans actually exist and take themselves seriously. Even more surprising that they were fine with denouncing President Obama, while they support someone who will essentially make them illegal for even existing.

            • 161 Tally
              May 10, 2025 at 3:02 am

              AH. okay. Thank you. :D

            • 162 57andfemale
              May 10, 2025 at 12:25 pm

              They don’t care,as long as their taxes are low and they can vulture capitalist to their heart’s content.

              It’s about greed and hate. When given the choice, Log Cabin Republicans choose greed and ignore the hate.

          • 163 57andfemale
            May 10, 2025 at 10:09 am

            Constitutional amendment. Not DOMA.

          • 165 57andfemale
            May 10, 2025 at 10:20 am

            Bush pushed for the constitutional amendment because he wasn’t sure if DOMA would survive if legislatively challenged.

            I’m always pleased when Clinton is helpful, but I cannot get past his record: DOMA, Telecom bill, DADT, welfare ‘reform’. DOMA was probably veto-proof but I don’t remember that Clinton fought it all that much. I don’t recall veto threats. He was too busy having to defend his personal ass. If it survives a veto, fine. But that’s the point: you go on record as being against the first piece of legislation to take away rights from Americans. Do Democratic President should have accepted it without a fight.

      • 166 utaustinliberal
        May 9, 2025 at 10:07 pm

        Nope. Clinton signed DADT and DOMA.

    • 167 Lovepolitics2008
      May 9, 2025 at 10:06 pm

      I’m not the biggest fan of Bill Clinton, but I can’t fault him for DADT. Back in the 1990s people were not as open minded as they are today. Bill Clinton had tried at first to let gays serve openly and he suffered an enormous backlash. It was too soon. He had to settle for much less with DADT.

  38. 168 amk for obama
    May 9, 2025 at 9:20 pm

    Is fucking rachel maddow dissing this significant moment ? I am seeing some tweets clocking her head. Anyone watching her ?

    • 169 Dudette
      May 9, 2025 at 9:21 pm

      Quite the opposite. Scroll up.

      • 170 amk for obama
        May 9, 2025 at 9:24 pm

        Ok. Many in twitterdom are upset. If she didn’t give any ‘conditional’ praise, good for her.

        • 171 Dudette
          May 9, 2025 at 9:30 pm

          I didn’t see/hear anything to be upset about. Her piece recaps the statements of previous Presidents, highlighting differences in their “personal” views vs. political statements on the topic. Topped off by what she said about PBO’s actions representing his legacy. In my view, very well done.

    • 172 desertflower
      May 9, 2025 at 9:31 pm

      Are you watching the same RM as UT? From UT’s account, Rachel is beyond happy…

  39. 175 Marlz (@marjgra)
    May 9, 2025 at 9:21 pm
  40. 177 blackwaterdog
    May 9, 2025 at 9:25 pm

    Maddow’s open piece was just magnificent. Anyone who say otherwise is not being objective IMO.

  41. 183 jovie141
    May 9, 2025 at 9:25 pm

    9:40 AM
    Obama departs the White House en route Joint Base Andrews.
    9:55 AM
    Obama departs Joint Base Andrews en route Seattle, Washington.
    10:45 AM
    Biden address a group of students and representatives from higher education and youth-serving organizations.
    1:45 PM
    Michelle Obama and Jill Biden host a Joining Forces event in honor of military mothers at the White House.
    2:55 PM
    Obama arrives in Seattle, Washington.
    3:00 PM
    Michelle Obama and Jill Biden host a Joining Forces service event at the Vice President’s Residence with Congressional spouses to assemble Mother’s Day packages that deployed troops have requested to be sent to their mothers and wives at home.
    3:50 PM
    Obama delivers remarks at a campaign event.
    6:00 PM
    Obama delivers remarks at a campaign event.
    7:15 PM
    Obama departs Seattle, Washington en route Los Angeles, California.
    9:25 PM
    Obama arrives in California.
    10:20 PM
    Obama delivers remarks at a campaign event.

    • 184 Tally
      May 9, 2025 at 9:37 pm

      oooh - thank you. I work down the street from Clooney’s pad. Now I can hopefully escape before the Ventura Blvd lockdown.
      :D :D :D

      • 185 desertflower
        May 9, 2025 at 10:13 pm

        You should stop by tomorrow…:) Clooney AND President Obama? My heart wouldn’t take all that. Seriously.

        • 186 Tally
          May 9, 2025 at 10:25 pm

          yeaahhhh…… methinks they’re going to have some serious security, and I’d need $$$$ in residual checks to show my bona fides…. ;)

          Clooney should just invite me. I clean up pretty well. And I can be funny, just ask JoJo. :D

  42. 187 collegekay
    May 9, 2025 at 9:27 pm

    I love Barack Obama.

  43. 189 Brit
    May 9, 2025 at 9:32 pm

    Rachel Maddow is a coward for not correcting Barney Frank on his comments he made on black people in California on Prop 8. The black population in CA is not even close to 10%.

    • 190 amk for obama
      May 9, 2025 at 9:34 pm

      Sheesh Barney. Didn’t NOM, LDS clowns and mehmney sink gazillions on Prop 8 ?

    • 191 donna dem 4 obama
      May 9, 2025 at 9:36 pm

      That is what the folks on twitter are apparently taking issue with. Did B. Frank say something about AA’s being responsible for the SS law in NC and the one coming up in MD and that now they might vote differently because PBO has given them the Ok to vote now that he has stated his support. That’s what I am picking up from twitter.

      • 192 hopefruit2
        May 9, 2025 at 9:41 pm

        Frank is being irresponsible for not only perpetuating a false stereotype, but doing so on national TV as a legislator. I very carefully parsed through the data of the NC voting yesterday and it had NOTHING to do with Black voters. This racial stereotyping has got to stop. No amount of “history” made by PBO’s announcing support for SSM will matter if people who should know better continue to engage in racial scapegoating.

    • 193 Tally
      May 9, 2025 at 9:41 pm

      It’s actually 6%.

      “California has 2.3 million African Americans as of 2010, the largest population of Black or African Americans in the western U.S, and the 5th highest Black population in the United States.”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California#African_Americans

      I’m such a web nerd……

    • 194 lamh35
      May 9, 2025 at 9:43 pm

      Won’t matter Brit. Alot of White liberals and LGBT folk believe that AA are the cause for Prop 8′s passage despite evidence to the contrary. And it really pisses me off. It’s a belief that won’t be shaked with logic and don’t even matter when you provide evidence to contrary. Some supposedly reasonable people still believe that bullshit.

  44. 195 taiping1
    May 9, 2025 at 9:33 pm

    http://t.co/4l7lTdcv. Nice poster to commemorate. Fired up!

  45. 196 dotster3
    May 9, 2025 at 9:34 pm

    I see same sex civil union bill failed in Co. today—-sounds like Repubs prevented it from advancing—-will be on the ballot in Nov.—-which should be interesting.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/10/us-usa-civilunions-colorado-idUSBRE84819R20120510

  46. 197 Andy46
    May 9, 2025 at 9:35 pm

    President Obama a Profile in Courage.

  47. 198 hopefruit2
    May 9, 2025 at 9:37 pm

    So whatever became of Keith Olbermann? Haven’t seen or heard much since Jimmy roasted him at the WHCD and he was pizzzzed.

  48. 199 0388jojothecat
    May 9, 2025 at 9:38 pm

    Where’s that loud mouth Dick Cheney? He always wants to speak out for HIS gay daughter once he was no longer in office, but while in office he did not have the guts to stick up for his own child when his party was saying the vile things about gays, taking away their rights, and prevent them from marrying having children.

  49. 200 Dudette
    May 9, 2025 at 9:38 pm

    Cory’s ON!!!

  50. 202 TrumpDog
    May 9, 2025 at 9:43 pm

    LOL Anyone else see the LBGT products at the Obama store site. They are quick!


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