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  1. 1 COS
    June 8, 2025 at 7:48 am

    GM NW and TOD.

  2. 4 99ts
    June 8, 2025 at 7:54 am

    gm & many thanks NW - seems like the media has realised Hillary is going to be the President in 2017

  3. 5 rikyrah
    June 8, 2025 at 8:02 am
  4. 16 rikyrah
    June 8, 2025 at 8:03 am

    Good Morning 😊, Everyone 😀

  5. 17 Nerdy Wonka
    June 8, 2025 at 8:06 am

  6. 19 99ts
    June 8, 2025 at 8:14 am

    So the GOP wants Trump to stop saying racist things - gosh - then he would lose 75% of his support! GOP in a lose lose situation here.

  7. 20 jackiegrumbacher
    June 8, 2025 at 8:17 am

    Eight years ago, I was a happy emotional wreck when President Obama cinched the nomination. We were making history and I was so proud of all the millions of people who had voted to make that historic moment happen. Last night, watching Hillary place her nomination in the context of women’s history brought me to tears. Women my age have been weighed down by glass ceilings all our lives and told what we could or could not do. But last night we shattered the big one. If we have to surrender to constitutional dictum and say goodbye to PBO on January 20, I want to say hello to Madam President.

    • 21 Betsy
      June 8, 2025 at 9:38 am

      I’m with you Jackie

    • 22 FoxfireTX
      June 8, 2025 at 9:47 am

      So true. I did not think I would be as emotional again about a candidate as I was when PBO won, but I was crying last night and just so very thrilled. I did a trip down memory lane yesterday for my many nieces, describing the world we grew up in that they cannot begin to imagine. In many states, women could not sit on juries, many many women received :allowances” from their husbands, the majority of their major life decisions were in the hands of men. It’s been a long time coming. Now we have to ensure she is elected in November. Then our granddaughters will grow up truly believing they can do anything with their lives that they choose.

      • 23 jacquelineoboomer
        June 8, 2025 at 10:47 am

        One extremely minor thing women couldn’t do, by comparison, although in the same vein of oppression (Ha!) - the wearing of “pant suits” or anything other than dresses or blouses with skirts on their office jobs - was still en vogue when I started working in an office in the mid-1960s. (Keep in mind mini skirts were “permitted,” so what does that tell ya - go figure!) Around 1970 or so, it was announced by my Navy employer (and the Navy has always had a push to be a “model” employer) that the ban was lifted. I guess those in power felt if we could send a man to the moon, we could let women wear pants. We women - young and old - announced a “Pants Suit Day” - hung flyers and everything - and most women went out and got new outfits, as did I.

        And in this century, every time Hillary or even Angela are mocked for wearing pants suits, I just let it roll. :)

  8. 24 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 8:29 am

    wow. good omen?

    • 25 jackiegrumbacher
      June 8, 2025 at 8:56 am

      I empathized with Hillary when she said last night that she wished her mother was there to see her. Doubt her mom would have been surprised at what he daughter achieved, but she would have been very proud.

      • 26 bridgeriverpass
        June 8, 2025 at 10:20 am

        So proud of Hillary. She kept going and now making even more history. How many of us have Mothers that worked all hours, surpassed the guys, yet ended up training them to have positions over them. Even harder when they were beautiful and in a man’s field. And the work never done when they got home. Never getting enough down time with the children and the guilt that goes with that. Etcetera.
        Women are stronger than strong, but sometimes after years of swimming up stream they break down. We’ve all seen that too.

  9. 27 MightyPamela
    June 8, 2025 at 8:36 am

    💞🕉📿💭💞

  10. 28 CEB
    June 8, 2025 at 8:38 am

    Thank you California and New Jersey! Gramps can now stop repeating and screaming and go home to do laundry and the real campaign can begin. Hold onto your butts everyone; this will be another one for the history books. Fired up and even more ready to go for Hillary and the soul of our nation.

    NW, thanks so much for taking such great care of the family while Chips is away taking care of her Mum.
    Chips, you and your Mum are ever in my thoughts; I hope that the two of you are doing well.

    GM, TOD ohana. I would really like to be a fly on the wall in the meeting that Bernie asked for with PBO.

  11. 29 Ladyhawke
    June 8, 2025 at 8:47 am

    • 30 Ladyhawke
      June 8, 2025 at 8:48 am

      • 31 CEB
        June 8, 2025 at 8:54 am

        Well, he is acting like what he is. Trump pulled the hoods of the rest of them who have been using the “Southern Strategy” for years and have found that they have unleashed a beast that cannot be controlled. They burned their own house down. Karma is a bitch and she is through playing with them.

      • 32 amk for obama
        June 8, 2025 at 8:56 am

        This pos and his media ilk built that and now the scum acts all innocent?

        • 33 99ts
          June 8, 2025 at 9:21 am

          Sooooo innocent - why when he was running for congress he could tell the truth to his voters and they believed him. He is that miracle of a politician - always tells the truth - always stands up for good against evil - he loves himself more than Trump loves himself - this is your media man Joe.

      • 34 jackiegrumbacher
        June 8, 2025 at 8:58 am

        Translation of Scarborough’s statement: “Stop it Donald, you’re showing us up for what we are. You’re supposed to hide it!”

      • 35 bella2758
        June 8, 2025 at 10:02 am

        Trump is acting like a racists, kind of like the Republicans acting like racists these last seven and a half years. One thing for sure Trump and the Republicans deserve a Oscar, because they have done a dam good acting job.

  12. 36 SUEDUVALLSMITH
    June 8, 2025 at 8:47 am

    OH YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..THE WEED WHACKER BOYS ARE HERE TODAY..I WONDER WHO I CAN FIGHT WITH THIS TIME….THIS IS A HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM GROUP..DOUBT THERE WERE ANY BACKGROUND CHECKS PERFORMED..GOTTA GO!

  13. June 8, 2025 at 8:49 am

    G’morning Nerdy & TOD!!:) Congrats COS on #1, and Happy Wednesday everyone!

  14. 38 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 8:59 am

    Any reason why CA counting is still stuck at 94.4% for hours?

    • 39 meta
      June 8, 2025 at 9:19 am

      Maybe people got some sleep? It’s a huge state, bro!

    • 52 arapaho415
      June 8, 2025 at 9:52 am

      GM amk.

      Also, too, traffic.

      Don’t know the logistics of how (paper) ballots get delivered to processing centers, but a north-south freeway (state route 14) in LA area has been closed since 4am because of overturned semi truck, which affects all other nearby freeways, surface streets, etc… a domino affect.

      • 53 meta
        June 8, 2025 at 9:57 am

        Here in SF, we put our paper completed ballots through a scanner and then we’re done. But who knows how all the other counties do their tabulations.

        • 54 arapaho415
          June 8, 2025 at 10:20 am

          GM meta.

          Agree with you, who knows? Ventura County is the same as SF — feels so weird to have to make sure you have to fill the space for your selection with a ball point pen on a flimsy plastic surface. Still resent Florida 2000 debacle for making us give up the old hole-puncher apparatus — made the act of voting more fun, and made children really want to be old enough to do the same.😦

          This from @latimes old hand, DC bureau chief last night — sounds like logistics are involved.

      • 56 amk for obama
        June 8, 2025 at 10:28 am

        paper? in this day and age? come on, CA.

        • 57 arapaho415
          June 8, 2025 at 10:30 am

          Blame Florida 2000 butterfly ballot.

          I think most areas have optical scanners as Meta and I discussed, but may be a funding problem in LA County (who knows?).

  15. 58 rikyrah
    June 8, 2025 at 9:06 am

    If Hillary wins in November, and gets 2 terms, there will be an entire swath of American children like Peanut, who will enter the voting booth for the first time at 18, having only known a Black man and a woman as President. How that group will see the world is vastly different than people just 10 years older than them.

  16. 61 jackiegrumbacher
    June 8, 2025 at 9:11 am

    This is an interesting article on the effect of Latino migration into the state of PA. The number of Latinos in PA grew by 83 percent between 2000 and 2012 and is growing faster now that Puerto Ricans are leaving their debt ridden island and finding a home in Florida and PA. Some smaller cities in PA, like Allentown and Reading, are already majority Latino. This is why it’s so important to reach out to Latino voters and help them find a home in the Democratic party. It’s why all the effort we devote to our Hispanic Initiative is worth it.

    http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/06/puerto_ricans_fleeing_debt_cri.html

    • 62 arapaho415
      June 8, 2025 at 9:58 am

      GM JackieG.

      Puerto Rico is a mess, and Congress is shirking its duty on doing anything at all about the situation, just like Zika — don’t know if they want another Venezuela-like situation there, heartless cowards. So many things about the GOP make me seethe — bigotry is a personal affront, but supporting corruption is NOT what the “world’s oldest democracy” should be supporting!

      From Meta’s twitter timeline:

  17. 63 Ladyhawke
    June 8, 2025 at 9:25 am

    It may be tempting to compare the race between Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to the epic race between Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama: Sanders, like Obama, has consolidated a good portion of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. Sanders, like Obama, is raising millions from small-dollar donors on the Internet. Sanders, like Obama, is channeling the anger and frustration of some in the party. Then, it was about the Iraq war; now, it’s about Wall Street.

    But that’s where the similarities end. From the perspective of someone who worked on his campaign and in his White House, it’s clear that Obama’s race against Clinton is not a useful example. Understanding the dynamics at play in the 2016 primaries requires looking further back at history. And unfortunately for Sanders, history shows that there are only two types of Democratic insurgent candidates: Barack Obama and everyone else.

  18. 65 Bobfr (@Our4thEstate)
    June 8, 2025 at 9:27 am

  19. 66 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 9:27 am

    Morning people! Glorious day!:) Thought this was so perfect, I just HAD to share:) https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/06/08/its-so-on/

    “…. Because Trump does not deserve to merely lose. He must be pantsed before all the world to wipe away the embarrassing stain of his nomination. When he takes the stage after the polls close in 152 days and does his Mussolini jaw-jut, I want to see his protruding lower lip tremble with incipient tears. I want to watch his insufferably smug sons sobbing into each other’s Armani lapels as they contemplate the extinction-level hit to the Trump brand. I want to see mascara streaks staining the cheeks of the Robert Palmer video-like female entourage assembled behind the humiliated candidate.

    The Republicans embarrassed this great nation by nominating a clueless, vulgar buffoon to lead it. It’s up to us to make it right. So it’s on, people. We can do this. We must do this. We will do this.”

    Made me smile at the thought….

    • 67 99ts
      June 8, 2025 at 9:56 am

      She writes a mean post that front pager - whether it be about politics or life in Florida. This one was as good as any I have seen. The end of it really got to me

      “The Republicans embarrassed this great nation by nominating a clueless, vulgar buffoon to lead it” - exactly how so many around the world feel about Trump. I have folks ask me “Is there something about this man that I am missing”. Cannot believe that a major political party could vote for such a person as their leader.

      • 68 desertflower
        June 8, 2025 at 10:07 am

        Morning( evening!) 99ts:) I do enjoy her writing style. She nailed this.

        • 69 99ts
          June 8, 2025 at 10:24 am

          gm df - past the bewitching hour here. TIme for bed. I did just notice that our campaigning PM (we have an election early July) would not comment on the US elections other than to congratulate Hillary on the 1st woman etc etc. Worldwide the politicians seem loath to call out Trump for who and what he is. Annoys me intensely that they would pretend “both sides”.

          So I shall go to sleep & forget about politics till another time. Enjoy your day.

  20. 71 GGAIL
    June 8, 2025 at 9:28 am

    Good West Coast morning NW & TOD family.
    I hope my beloved Chipsticks and her mom are celebrating this second Historic occurrence!!!!

    I sure am 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    We have a two term African American President and will soon have a female American President.

    Let that sink in…

  21. 72 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 9:34 am

    Good!

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/06/08/iran-blocks-u-s-congressmen-visit-in-nuclear-dispute.html

  22. 73 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 9:39 am

    I’m pretty sure I read that some Republican is SOOOO outraged by DT that he just can’t vote for him….but he’ll write THIS guy’s name in, because “Patriot” or some bullshit. After all this crap comes to light, the fact that these people still have defenders, is beyond me.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/06/08/petraeus-gave-reporters-top-secret-info.html

    • 74 desertflower
      June 8, 2025 at 9:40 am

      PS…let’s not forget the double standard “outrage” over Hill’s emails! Wretched people.

  23. 75 hopefruit2
    June 8, 2025 at 9:39 am

  24. 79 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 9:49 am

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/08/top-sanders-staff-admit-weeks-months-bernie-win.html

    According to the story, the person who has been clinging to the notion that he can still win the nomination is Bernie Sanders. According to Politico, part of the reason that Sanders is staying in the race is that he is holding on to the remote thought that Hillary Clinton will be indicted for her use of email while Sec. of State.

    The story paints a damning portrait of a presidential candidate who might have blown his shot at winning the Democratic nomination by making a series of bad decisions. The end of the campaign inside stories are always shaped by people within the campaign who may have an ax to grind, but what is clear is that the public image of the Sanders campaign may have been very different from what was going on behind closed doors.

    It seems that the one person who needs to come to grips with the reality of his defeat is Sen. Bernie Sanders.

    Make it stop! I heard this stupid ass indictment mess from a commenter on another local blog….it’s laughable

  25. 80 FoxfireTX
    June 8, 2025 at 9:59 am

    Good morning TOD! Such a great day. While I am not happy with Bernie and his supporters, and found his behavior last night insufferable, I am confident that PBO can get his supporters on board. There was an interesting short interview very late with a NYT reporter at the Bernie rally. She had asked several of his supporters if they thought it was time to get behind HRC and they said NO, they wanted him to take it to the convention. Then they saw PBO’s statement on their twitter feeds and specifically came back to her and said if PBO said it was time to get behind her they had changed their minds and thought he should quit. PBO will be the one with the influence with these millennials. He has extremely high approval ratings with them as well.

    Another interesting point from last night to keep in mind in the coming months. 538 posted that ALL of the recent polls in CA were badly off-by double digits-in their projections of the Latino vote in CA. The polls generally had Bernie losing that vote by around 5% and in the most heavily populated counties in CA it was much, much higher. If the pollsters cannot figure out how to accurately measure this voting group, we can assume that all of the polls will be off badly in the coming months. At this point, I think the only pollster I would trust with this group is Voter Latino.

    Hope everyone has a great day!

    • 81 arapaho415
      June 8, 2025 at 10:29 am

      GM FoxfireTX.

      See upthread response to JackieG re: how CA voted.

      One of the biggest problems MSM has is it’s “white as default” POV.

      Of course El Kilgore was thinking of the tourist and well-heeled areas of Monterey County (Big Sur, Carmel-by-the-sea, etc.), not the working class area that John Steinbeck famously wrote about (Salinas CA is its county seat).

    • 84 arapaho415
      June 8, 2025 at 10:35 am

      Another point about polls…

      The ones commissioned by NYC-DC media outlets are worthless.

      Case in point for CA:

      However, @latimes was better:

      • 85 amk for obama
        June 8, 2025 at 10:54 am

        GM arapaho. You have better insight than the friggin’ ‘pollsters’.

        also. too. fuck nate. what he was doing when these ‘polls’ came out? everyone can do hindsight.

    • 86 meta
      June 8, 2025 at 10:59 am

      I’ll tell you, Sanders burned his bridges with Latinos when his surrogates went after Dolores Huerta. She is revered by Latinos in Cali and he crossed a line. And we also never forget, so NOPE.

  26. 87 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 10:01 am

    Perfect comment. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2016_06/who_may_lead060755.php#disqus_thread

    lowtechcyclist • an hour ago
    Ah yes, the ‘terrorist fist bump.’ Just a reminder of how far back the GOP has been grasping at straws to find something to attack Obama with.

    Needless to say, the same is true about Hillary, only thanks to Richard Mellon Scaife, the right-wing noise machine, and a mainstream press that was willing to catapult trivial controversies into the mainstream, the anti-Hillary straws gained traction.

    But as former Political Animal Kevin Drum just summarized things:

    For the record: Whitewater was a nothingburger. Travelgate was a nothingburger. Troopergate was a nothingburger. Filegate was a nothingburger. The Vince Foster murder conspiracy theories were a nothingburger. Monica Lewinsky was Bill’s problem, not Hillary’s. Benghazi was a tragedy, but entirely non-scandalous. The Goldman Sachs speeches were probably a bad idea, but otherwise a nothingburger. Emailgate revealed some poor judgment, but we’ve now seen all the emails and it’s pretty obviously a nothingburger. Humagate is a nothingburger. Foundationgate is a nothingburger.

    Bottom line: Don’t let Donald Trump or the press or anyone else convince you that Hillary Clinton is “dogged by scandal” or “works under a constant cloud of controversy” or whatever the nonsense of the day is. That constant cloud is the very deliberate invention of lowlifes in Arkansas; well-heeled conservative cranks; the Republican Party; and far too often a gullible and compliant press.

    Hillary will be a great President. She’s got a tough act to follow, but if anyone can have a Presidency that rivals Obama’s, she’s the one.

    Now let’s go get her a Congressional majority.

  27. 89 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 10:10 am

    :)

  28. 92 meta
    June 8, 2025 at 10:10 am

    OMG, this guy.

  29. 93 Ladyhawke
    June 8, 2025 at 10:11 am

    What took Trump’s Republican critics so long?

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/what-took-trumps-republican-critics-so-long#break

    The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank had a good column on this yesterday.

    The things Trump is doing now – disparaging the “Mexican” judge, disqualifying Muslim judges, calling somebody claiming Native American blood “Pocahontas” and singling out “my African American” – is very much in line with what he has been doing for the past year, and before.

    More than six months ago, I began a column by proposing, “Let’s not mince words: Donald Trump is a bigot and a racist.” His bigotry went back decades, to the Central Park jogger case, and came to include: his leadership of the “birther” movement suggesting President Obama was a foreign-born Muslim, his vulgar expressions for women, his talk of Mexico sending rapists into America, his call for mass deportation, his spats with Latino news outlets, his mocking Asian accent, his tacit acceptance of the claim that Muslims are a “problem” in America, his agreement that American Muslims should be forced to register themselves, his call to ban Muslim immigration, his false claim about American Muslims celebrating 9/11, his tweeting of statistics from white supremacists, his condoning of violence against black demonstrators and his mocking of a journalist with a physical disability.

    And really, that’s not a comprehensive list.

  30. 94 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 10:23 am

    Just told my du that hillz it is. She mocked me ‘dad, your guy is gonna lose’. gurls/smh.

  31. 95 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 10:24 am

    come on CA counters, wake up. me needz 15%.

  32. 96 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 10:26 am

    It’s time. We have work to do!

  33. 108 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 10:44 am

  34. 110 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 10:45 am

  35. 111 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 10:47 am

  36. 112 amk for obama
    June 8, 2025 at 10:48 am

  37. 113 rikyrah
    June 8, 2025 at 11:08 am

    The key detail Ron Johnson hopes Wisconsin won’t remember
    06/08/16 10:40 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Sen. Ron Johnson (R), running for re-election in Wisconsin, is one of Congress’ more vulnerable Republican incumbents, and polls show him trailing the Democrat he defeated in 2010, former Sen. Russ Feingold (D). Johnson, however, is flush with cash, which he’s eager to put to use.

    And while not every campaign commercial deserves special attention and scrutiny, the Wisconsin senator’s newest spot is amazing for an important reason. Roll Call reported:

    Republican Ron Johnson is a first-term U.S. senator from Wisconsin. The voters back home wouldn’t know it watching his re-election campaign’s first TV ad.

    Even for a time when incumbent lawmakers try to distance themselves from their job titles, Johnson’s new ad takes that approach to an extreme. It doesn’t once mention his work as a lawmaker or even identify him as a senator.

    That may sound like an exaggeration, but it’s not. The Republican’s re-election ad is carefully designed to give viewers the impression that he’s not already a senator.

  38. 114 meta
    June 8, 2025 at 11:10 am

    Let’s GO, Democrats. We’ve got racists and liars to slay.

  39. 117 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 11:12 am

    THIS:) http://juanitajean.com/heres-a-story/

  40. 118 desertflower
    June 8, 2025 at 11:16 am

    Coward.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/08/paul-ryan-cancels-press-conference-hides-reporters-avoid-talking-trump.html

    • 119 desertflower
      June 8, 2025 at 11:18 am

      Off course this is not lost on NancySmash:)

  41. 122 meta
    June 8, 2025 at 11:28 am

    TOD Twitter Brigade: If you’re not following Merriam-Webster, you’re missing out!

  42. 123 Linda
    June 8, 2025 at 11:33 am

    lol…

    Paul Ryan Cancels Press Conference And Hides From Reporters To Avoid Talking About Trump

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/08/paul-ryan-cancels-press-conference-hides-reporters-avoid-talking-trump.html


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