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Early Bird Chat

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All Times Eastern

9:25AM: President Obama meets with German Chancellor Merkel; German Chancellery, Berlin, Germany

11AM: President Obama and Chancellor Merkel hold a press conference

1:05PM: President Obama attends a dinner with Chancellor Merkel

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119 Responses to “Early Bird Chat”


  1. 1 Nerdy Wonka
    November 17, 2016 at 10:23 am

    HEADS Up AT 11AM EST

  2. November 17, 2016 at 10:23 am

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and TOD family, I hope all is well with everyone this lovely Thursday morning.

    Nerdy, thanks so much for helping Ms. Chips and the sacrifices you are making for us TOD’ers. 💫🙏👌👊❤

    To all, I hope you promote happiness, swap a smile, and trade some cheer today. ❤ ❤ ❤

    Notwithstanding the nightmare of #BuffoonTrump being in the Whitehouse, I more than ever Thank God that President Obama is still the President of The United States of America. ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆

  3. November 17, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Good morning TOD folks!

  4. 5 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 10:32 am

    Bringing this over…

  5. 7 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 10:34 am

  6. 8 Ladyhawke
    November 17, 2016 at 10:39 am

    JAMELLE BOUIE IS ON A TEAR. TWO MUST READS.

    To gesture at individual voters and say they aren’t racists—the usual rejoinder to this argument—is to miss the point. White voters backed Trump as a bloc. They ignored his bigotry and elevated his call for a new nationalism, centered on white Americans. Whatever their actual intentions—whether they were partisan Republicans, hardcore Trumpists, or simply disgusted with Hillary Clinton—they voted for white nationalism, full stop.

    The more Democrats obscure that, the more they run the real risk of being co-opted, of bolstering the political prospects of ethno-nationalism in the name of a broad “populism” that isn’t actually at play. An infrastructure bill doesn’t outweigh the impact of Trump’s attacks on communities of color, even if it’s influenced by the left. Communities of color need physical and economic security. Strong wages and freedom from discrimination. Without the latter, a rising tide will not lift all boats.

    Whether Trump’s election reveals an “inherent malice” in his voters is irrelevant. What is relevant are the practical outcomes of a Trump presidency. Trump campaigned on state repression of disfavored minorities. He gives every sign that he plans to deliver that repression. This will mean disadvantage, immiseration, and violence for real people, people whose “inner pain and fear” were not reckoned worthy of many-thousand-word magazine feature stories. If you voted for Trump, you voted for this, regardless of what you believe about the groups in question. That you have black friends or Latino colleagues, that you think yourself to be tolerant and decent, doesn’t change the fact that you voted for racist policy that may affect, change, or harm their lives. And on that score, your frustration at being labeled a racist doesn’t justify or mitigate the moral weight of your political choice.

  7. 9 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 10:43 am

    STREAM’S UP: President Obama, German Chancellor Merkel Hold Joint News Conference – http://abcnews.go.com/live?stream=3

  8. 10 arapaho415
    November 17, 2016 at 10:44 am

    GM TODville.

    Trying to reach TNmtnGirl — left a comment for her on yesterday’s Chat Away thread, started to reply to her on last night’s overnight thread, but since this is the current Thursday morning thread, will repeat myself here re: #IranDeal.

    (Click on the timestamp in the upper-right corner of the tweet to open it in a new tab.)

    Link to Politico article w/ quotes from your junior Senator:

    Here’s a link to 2008 article on how badly the GWB administration botched things up (pretty long and dense article though):

    • November 17, 2016 at 10:53 am

      Thanks, friend. Saw what you posted last night. Wrote down links. Thanks for these. We are traveling today to our daughter’s.

      • 12 arapaho415
        November 17, 2016 at 10:56 am

        Thanks for letting me know — hope the weather’s good to travel today — appears there’s a storm brewing in parts of US (not sure where though).

        Looks like your junior Senator, Bob Corker, is the person to keep an eye on re: #IranDeal.

        • November 17, 2016 at 11:20 am

          No weather issues EXCEPT terrible drought!! Bad fires in many parts of Smokies and surrounding mountains. Dangerous. Frightening. We even changed our route today to get away from the smoke.

          • 14 arapaho415
            November 17, 2016 at 11:54 am

            I heard about drought conditions in the southeast!

            Shocking event for your part of the country. Concerned to hear about the fires in the Smokies — their ecosystem didn’t develop to withstand wild fires. 😦

  9. 15 Ladyhawke
    November 17, 2016 at 10:45 am

    The main thing that names currently floating around as potential Cabinet picks — Steven Mnuchin, Newt Gingrich, John Bolton, Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani — have in common is that they backed Trump. We cannot allow personal loyalty to Donald Trump to be the decisive factor in staffing the executive branch. Personnel is policy, and if fealty to Trump determines the personnel, then fealty to Trump will also be the policy.

    I don’t want to live in a world where personal loyalty to Donald Trump is the sine qua non of every policy decision. And my guess is that, if they think about it, neither do Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz or Lisa Murkowski or any number of other Republicans from outside the Trumposphere who will be inevitably ground down if he is able to make his will prevail.

    Above all, senators from both parties who know in their hearts that we are living through a dangerous moment need to avoid falling prey to wishful thinking. Because Trump is a vengeful and irrational man, picking a fight with him over an SEC commissioner or an assistant attorney general feels unpleasant, and many would simply rather duck the issue. But that vengeful and irrational nature is precisely why the fights must be picked and must be picked now.

    • 16 GGail
      November 17, 2016 at 11:15 am

      People, can we please let this Post be about PBO, his travels and his administration.
      There are a whole host of blogs that you can get your fill of Trump.

      • November 17, 2016 at 12:35 pm

        ..what folks are doing is giving out information that we can use….i for one am grateful….

      • November 17, 2016 at 1:16 pm

        GGail, I feel you. I mentioned my dismay about the dump garbage last week, only that I didn’t want to have to encounter the smug ugliness of that vile creature, visually. The info itself, is important to know. So TOD, why not just balance it out with more on our guy…..just to be nice. That’s not too much to ask, is it ?

  10. November 17, 2016 at 10:48 am

  11. 20 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 10:54 am


    President Obama and Chancellor Merkel on the Future of Trans-Atlantic Relations – https://global.handelsblatt.com/opinion/the-future-of-trans-atlantic-relations-645958#.WC3RMcp-2ng.twitter

  12. 21 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 10:57 am

    • 22 GGail
      November 17, 2016 at 11:16 am

      JER, thank you so much for posting about PBO. ❤

      • 23 JER
        November 17, 2016 at 11:45 am

        You are welcome GGail. I have had too much DT.

        • 24 GGail
          November 17, 2016 at 12:00 pm

          TOD should be our refuge from all-things DT

          • 25 0388jojothecat
            November 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm

            I agree GGail. Good Morning. If you want to hear and read DT doings and what stupid thing he’s done and said there are other websites. I don’t want to see his face here. I want to see President Barack Obama and what he is saying and doing, his administration – where are they going what will they be doing in the future. What Flotus and Dr. Jill Biden are doing. I watched the BET special again last night. It was so great! For ME, PBO will be the last intelligent president in America unless the Electorial College does it’s job and stop our nightmare. I want to hear about the DEMs and what they are doing. Did anyone sit-in on the BS call yesterday? Did I miss someone posting about it? Wish he would start his own Independent Platform and get more Independents elected and leave us DEMs alone.

          • November 17, 2016 at 12:37 pm

            there is no refuge…but i do not want to be battered because i mentioned the one not to be named….take care

            • 27 sherijr
              November 17, 2016 at 1:05 pm

              ((((PF)))))

            • 28 GGail
              November 17, 2016 at 1:13 pm

              PF, all emotions are still pretty raw, so bear that in mind and don’t feel “battered” because we don’t want DT flooding TOD.

              There are a thousand blogs just swarming with all-DT all the time. We want this to remain about PBO and his administration for as long as we possibly can.

              I hope you and others will understand and respect that.

    • 30 arapaho415
      November 17, 2016 at 1:24 pm

      Thank you, JER, best sleuth on the internet.

  13. 31 whenpamelawandered
    November 17, 2016 at 11:10 am

    A pressing question on my mind today, after some reading yesterday: Is the definition of ‘Christian Supremacist’ actually ‘Mouthpiece of Satan’, and I’m wondering how Christ would speak to this, as they are once again using His Name and His Work to justify themselves. My understanding is when He gave us the 11th commandment: “Love one another as I have Loved you”, He reset the guidelines and expectations for human behavior, and redefined the rules for spiritual growth. I feel in need of some help with this, and do not wish to upset or offend any faiths. ❤️🙏🏻

    • November 17, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      Here are 3 I find apt:

      1. Matthew 15:8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

      2. Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but they deny him by what they do. They are detestable, disobedient, and unfit to do anything good.

      3. Matthew 12:34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

    • 34 whenpamelawandered
      November 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm

      Thank you, edp4bho, thank you.

  14. 35 No Child Left Behind
    November 17, 2016 at 11:14 am

    Good Morning TODVille!

    Thank you Nerdy for all that you do.

    I have to catch up on the previous post with so many beautiful pictures of my FOREVER POTUS in Greece. Thank you for that!

  15. 36 Ladyhawke
    November 17, 2016 at 11:18 am

  16. November 17, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Interesting

  17. 46 Judith Fardig
    November 17, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    Such a pleasure to read and hear President Obama’s words from afar. Congratulations to RanMan!

  18. November 17, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    There is not refuge for the storm that is about to hit us…and impacting more on some than others…my granddaughter is still afraid….i still have trouble sleeping….

    i can become an occasional lurker…keeping my comments and feeling to myself….

    • 48 Judith Fardig
      November 17, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      Please don’t do that, prettyfoot! We need calls to action.

    • November 17, 2016 at 1:01 pm

      PrettyFoot, please don’t stop engaging, especially now that we all need to step up our involvement in the fight for our democracy.

    • 50 arapaho415
      November 17, 2016 at 1:18 pm

      GA PF58.

      I understand completely what you mean.

      Now that a week has passed, I go to bed feeling better than I did last week — OMG, last week I was in a complete state of shock, believing my own self-created worst-case scenarios.

      This week I’m better, but after a few minutes on Twitter, my stomach is literally in knots, seeing the path that US democracy is now heading, with the greatest champions of US democracy about to exit the US political stage…

      Meta captured some of PBO’s comforting words this morning’s at Berlin press conference with Chancellor Merkel:

    • November 17, 2016 at 1:54 pm

      Absolutely NOT! You are a tremendous resource to us. My heart aches every day. I can’t imagine not helping to do what we can to protect your precious granddaughter. So we gather here and try to do what we each think is best.
      Chips was the only one (and now NW) who could determine who stays and who goes. So I believe we must learn to work together here, disagree here, accept each other here.
      This is a very, very chaotic and frightening time. We are scared out of our minds and rightfully so.
      Not only do we have to grieve The First Family leaving the White House but now the wholesale threat to our democracy as well.
      Please do not even consider leaving TOD. Please.

      • November 17, 2016 at 2:14 pm

        Ditto. Every word. No need to add to what you said.

      • 53 sherijr
        November 17, 2016 at 2:56 pm

        What meta said. period. thank you, meta.

      • November 17, 2016 at 7:26 pm

        Thank you Meta. I agree with every word you said. My heart feels like it will ache forever at this point.But we go on.
        Pf, thank you for all your contribution over the years. Please stay right here at TOD. We have to fight for
        your precious grand daughter and ALL our children.As PBO says we are all in this together.

    • 55 Betsy
      November 17, 2016 at 3:55 pm

      PF, I am a legal immigrant and the right color (white), but even I am afraid that if I join in the protests, or even sign my name to anything, I can be deported. So I have anxiety everyday. You are not alone. I have not been sleeping well and since I teach American History everyday, I can’t get away from it either which makes me depressed. I am afraid for the future of this country because once Jan 20, 2017 is over, President Obama is no longer the President, and I can’t escape that fact and am filled with dread.

    • 56 jacquelineoboomer
      November 17, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      PF – I’m just arriving here today, but I totally co-sign meta’s comments. The reason TOD has lasted this long is that we ALL respect each other’s reasons and needs to post whatever they think best (unless Chips or NW tell us differently). We all have different ways of coping with the bad things, and different ways of expressing the good things. But the beauty of TOD – and why I love ALL of you – is that we have the freedom here to “get through” in our own ways, without meaning any disrespect to anybody else, and with no disrespect taken. That’s why there are no trolls here – the “kill” button is hit behind the scenes, so we may just be ourselves.

      I’m for that.

      And now to nap. Love y’all.

  19. November 17, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    President Obama’s response about the importance of voting, the urgency of becoming an informed citizen and the lack of reliable media sources that report rather than distort the truth is SPOT ON. I hope there’s a clip of it for all of us to share. He went off and I’m so glad he did.

    • 58 Judith Fardig
      November 17, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      Hear hear. Would like for our media to share it widely, but we will probably have to do it for them. Looking forward to Nerdy’s live tweets of the press conference.

  20. 59 Judith Fardig
    November 17, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    The BET broadcast last night “Love and Happiness, a thanks to the Obamas” was so fantastic and all the more poignant because then they did not imagine what we know know. We still have two months to revel in President Obama in charge. Let’s not waste it.

  21. November 17, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    Can’t let these guys get away with this.

  22. November 17, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    Great example:

    • 66 a4alice
      November 17, 2016 at 1:34 pm

      that’s good philosophy. I do believe PBO is the greatest President in my lifetime. If I could’ve, I’d have happily voted for him again. retweeting this.

      Thanks NW for the coverage of PBO in distant lands and for all that you do. :-)🤗🌈

    • 67 SUE DUVALL SMITH
      November 17, 2016 at 5:05 pm

      AMEN…I HAD A TEACHER IN BIBLE STUDY TRY TO GET ME TO STOP POSTING ON TRUMP..HEY..IF YOU FEEL THAT BAD ABOUT VOTING FOR HIM..UNFRIEND ME!

  23. 68 FoxfireTX
    November 17, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    The most important thing that President Obama said today: “DO NOT TAKE FOR GRANTED OUR WAY OF LIFE”. How many heard it?

    I was not aware that this bill, which is Pence’s “Religious Freedom” bill on steroids, is ready to go in the new Congress.

    “The GOP’s Anti-LGBT, Anti-Women ‘Religious Freedom’ Law on Steroids
    The First Amendment Defense Act would allow hospitals, governments, universities, and businesses to ignore same-sex marriage, deny women health care, and fire gay people.

    The First Amendment Defense Act is the nuclear version of the so-called “religious freedom” laws that have appeared across the country, most infamously in Mike Pence’s Indiana. The Republican House will surely pass it, the Senate will pass it unless it’s filibustered by Democrats, and President-elect Trump has promised to sign it.

    If it becomes law, FADA will be the worst thing to happen to women and LGBT people in a generation.

    ….

    And notice that it applies not just to religious beliefs about same-sex marriage, but also to sexual conduct in general. Translation: contraception, sex education, treatment of STDs – all of these are part of the bill. If a national pharmacy chain wants to refuse to fill prescriptions for the “morning after pill,” if a company wants to fire someone for being pregnant out of wedlock or becoming HIV positive, if a public school wants to stop teaching sex ed – all covered.” http://thebea.st/2fGx3pY

    It appears our access to abortion and contraception may be curtailed much more quickly than the time we thought we had until Roe may be overturned. Significantly, this bill does not require even an actual “religious” belief but a “moral” concern will suffice to deprive us of our rights.

    • 69 FoxfireTX
      November 17, 2016 at 1:29 pm

      I am assuming the Dems will filibuster assuming the filibuster remains in place.

      • 70 Bill R.
        November 17, 2016 at 1:39 pm

        This is why the Dems under Schumer are talking about “cooperation”. They still have the filibuster and the tool to block the worst stuff, and Senate Rs are reluctant to take it away, which they might do otherwise.

    • 71 sherijr
      November 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm

      Holy shit FoxFire, thank you for informing us of this, it is the first I’ve read of it. Making it known far and wide, now.

  24. 72 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 1:36 pm

  25. 75 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    Soon: Sen. Bernie Sanders Speaks at Rally for ‘Social and Economic Justice’ – http://abcnews.go.com/live?stream=3

  26. 76 JER
    November 17, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    Monitors on the floor as the President participated in an interview with Der Spiegel today.

    A post shared by Pete Souza (archived) (@petesouza44) on

  27. 77 Allison
    November 17, 2016 at 2:14 pm

  28. November 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    I truly do not understand this idiocy.

    • November 17, 2016 at 2:31 pm

      I can’t. Just can’t. 😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫

    • 81 arapaho415
      November 17, 2016 at 2:37 pm

      Did you see this comment to @ChadPergram?

    • 82 sherijr
      November 17, 2016 at 2:39 pm

      yep the betrayal is sickening, but it is effing apparent. I don’t even know what to do at this point, go it alone in my fight against these crazy people until OFA gets going.

    • 83 COS
      November 17, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      The only thing I see are Republicans in charge for years to come. Right now, I am not very hopeful from what I am hearing from the Democrats. They are making all kinds of statements to divide the party instead of bringing it together. They need to calm down and think. How can you neglect your solid base to go after a group of folks who will never vote for Democrats? If the so-called blue collar heartland did not understand what PBO and the Democrats did for them, I have no words to describe them. They chose to put their eggs in Trump’s racist, empty basket. It was not economics that drove them to Trump.

  29. 85 57andfemale
    November 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    As I have mentioned here before, I work for a sociopath. He’s a Trump wannabe. He cheats people, takes great work from people he pays $8-10/hour. He hated PBO because he was forced to provide health insurance. And he’s also batshit crazy on a whole bunch of issues.

    Here is what we’re up against: a black woman in her early 30’s who works here has three children. She’s a single mother. She voted for Trump because “he’s going to fix Obamacare and I’ll get more for the $300/month premium I have to pay.”

    My office is next to the conference room, so I heard all of the negotiations he put insurance companies through, in order to provide that absolute least amount of health care he possibly could. Until ACA, he didn’t provide insurance for ANYONE, and he has hundreds of employees.

    But the young, black single mother thinks Trump is going to get her better insurance.

    I don’t know whether to weep or scream.

    • 86 FoxfireTX
      November 17, 2016 at 2:23 pm

      Does she understand he is going to take away her head of household tax status, thereby increasing her tax rate? And with 3 children, she will pay much more than even a single mother with one child. The biggest threat to our democracy is ignorance.

      • 87 57andfemale
        November 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm

        I’m getting my information together. She is a nice woman, she works hard. She’ll listen.

        And she has three girls. I can’t understand how any woman could vote for Trump.

        • 88 sherijr
          November 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm

          57, if she is only earning $8-10/hr, single with 3 kids, then she & her kids are eligible for Medicaid.

          • 89 0388jojothecat
            November 17, 2016 at 3:28 pm

            Yes. If she is getting Ocare and the subsidy she is probably only paying for just herself and not the 3 kids. $300 is awfully low for 4 people.

            • 90 FoxfireTX
              November 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm

              CHIP for the kids if not Medicaid.

            • 92 57andfemale
              November 17, 2016 at 5:30 pm

              I will find out exactly who is covered and by whom. Maybe the $300 is just for her PPO – she did say it was through this job. She’s complaining that it barely covers anything. She really is not stupid, but Americans have become stone stupid about health insurance.

              • 93 0388jojothecat
                November 17, 2016 at 7:07 pm

                It depends on what plan she chose. If she is unhealthy than maybe it doesn’t cover all she needs to have done considering she NEVER had insurance before. Can you imagine if you didn’t have insurance for years than got it? She has to have some serious issues. ALL her preventative care does not require a co-pay. That would include mammograms, paps, physical, etc. If she goes in for a cold or other ailments she has to meet a deductible. Do you have to meet your deductible for preventative care? These days deductible is close to $1000.

                • 94 57andfemale
                  November 21, 2016 at 11:44 am

                  What upsets me: it’s all Obamacare’s fault. Inevitably, it’s the media’s fault for their dishonest coverage of absolutely everything.

  30. November 17, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    I like this guy:

  31. November 17, 2016 at 2:51 pm

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  33. November 17, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    U of Michigan

  34. 102 Nena20409
    November 17, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Hello TOD.
    It’s been an interesting Thursday. 50F & will get cooler soon tonight.
    THanks to NW, TOD Rocks. You truly keep Us informed.
    Congrats to all the Gold ⭐ winners since yesterday, starting with this post.
    {{{{ ❤ Chips ❤ }}}}

  35. 103 FoxfireTX
    November 17, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    I posted late last night about how we now need to consider “propaganda” coming from other sources including the WH with a PE that has no qualms about telling lies to the media and the public. I don’t feel quite so crazy today hearing PBO use for the fist time the term “propaganda” in reference to media being consumed by the American public. I wondered if I was being too histrionic when I posted that. Apparently not.

  36. 105 Judith Fardig
    November 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm

  37. 106 Nena20409
    November 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm

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  39. November 17, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    We really can’t lose Nancy Smash right now.

    • 109 FoxfireTX
      November 17, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      I agree, meta. I have not always been a big fan of hers but she never stops fighting and she knows how to keep people in line to stand as a strong voting block. We cannot lose her strength, particularly with what is going on in the Senate.

    • November 17, 2016 at 4:48 pm

      Meta, I agree. I like Tim Ryan, but IMO Tim, Schumer, Sen. Sherrod Brown , Dixiecrat Joe Manchin, Bernie Sanders, et al, is chasing the Archie Bunker voter that will not vote Dems.

      Ryan, Brown, and Manchin needs to stop misleading their constituents regarding bringing back those old industrial jobs and coal processing to the rust belt and WV. Hillary, had a viable plan to help the Archie Bunkers, but Ryan, Brown, and Manchin couldn’t convince them.

      So what does Ryan, Bernie, and Manchin offers that will convince the Archie Bunker voter that wasn’t already offered.

      • November 17, 2016 at 5:41 pm

        It’s all of a piece, isn’t it? We are under assault and I personally don’t think it’s time to abandon our strength and what works.

  40. 112 Nena20409
    November 17, 2016 at 4:01 pm

  41. 114 Nena20409
    November 17, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    The number has now reached over 1,000,000.

  42. 117 Nena20409
    November 17, 2016 at 4:23 pm

  43. November 17, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    Right now, I couldn’t be more disgusted with this guy.

  44. 119 jacquelineoboomer
    November 17, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    Before I drift off to my siesta, just one quick one …

    President Obama is starting to get on my last nerve! For eight years, he’s been making the rest of us look bad. Today’s presser with Angela – I watched the whole thing and will watch the entire recording again later. He is the master, and we are not. He makes us look bad. Well, actually, I can only speak for myself. So annoying.


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