97 Responses to “A Delightful Friendship”


  1. 1 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Good Morning Everybody.

  2. 6 desertflower
    December 19, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Morning everyone:) Thank you, Nerdy:)

    • 8 catrst
      December 19, 2016 at 10:09 am

      What Michelle Obama is talking about is exactly what I am working on. Her term is to live your life out loud. I love that. What is used as a term in the material I am using is called “real self” as opposed to other personnas. I think its uncanny how much the Obamas have messages for each one of us in our own journeys. Love them so much.

  3. 9 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 9:18 am


    NPR’s Exit Interview With President Obama | Morning Edition | NPR

  4. 13 whenpamelawandered
    December 19, 2016 at 9:29 am

    ❤🌹🙏🏻🌹❤

  5. December 19, 2016 at 9:37 am

    Morning, Everyone 🙂

  6. December 19, 2016 at 9:40 am

    Over at BJ, having a discussion about how the GOP is upset that we won’t show Ferret head his ‘ respect’ due as President.

    Comment One:

    Kay says:
    December 19, 2016 at 7:55 am
    @Jeffro:

    Considering how Obama was treated from Day One and how Team Trump continues to treat Clinton, no one should be at all hesitant to let Trump know they’re unhappy. This idea that there’s two sets of rules- Republicans behave one way and Democrats are ordered to behave another way- has to end.

    Donald Trump has not made the slightest effort to “reach out”. The burden isn’t on us. It’s on him. It is literally his job to make an effort to bring in the majority who didn’t vote for him. If he doesn’t succeed that’s not on us- it’s on him.

    But, this comment was FOR THE WIN!!!

    Baud says:
    December 19, 2016 at 7:58 am
    @Kay: Too many people have taken our graciousness to mean that we are the abused spouse of American politics. Their beds are about to burn.

  7. December 19, 2016 at 9:44 am

    The Press shows more and more how they have not lived up to the sacred trust bestowed upon them by the Constitution!

  8. December 19, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Good morning Ms. Chips, Danny and TOD family, I hope all is well with everyone this lovely Monday morning. Congrats Jer, on being first this morning.

    Nerdy, thanks so much for helping Ms. Chips and the sacrifices you are making for us TOD’ers. 💫🙏👌👊❤

    To all, I hope you are rejuvenate with robust, vigorous, and zealous energy today. ❤ ❤ ❤

    Notwithstanding the nightmare of BuffoonTrump in the Whitehouse, I am more than ever, Thankful to God that President Obama is still the President of The United States of America. ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆 ⭐🏆

  9. December 19, 2016 at 10:00 am

    uh huh

    uh huh

    The Tillerson Reveal: Tax Evasion and a Russian Connection
    by David Atkins
    December 18, 2016 6:14 PM

    If Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson is confirmed after this latest news, it will mean Republicans have no shame at all:

    Rex Tillerson, the businessman nominated by Donald Trump to be the next US secretary of state, is the long-time director of a US-Russian oil firm based in the tax haven of the Bahamas, leaked documents show.

    Tillerson – the chief executive of ExxonMobil – has been a director of the oil company’s Russian subsidiary, Exxon Neftegas, since 1998. His name – RW Tillerson – appears next to other officers who are based at Houston, Texas; Moscow; and Sakhalin, in Russia’s far east.

    The leaked 2001 document comes from the corporate registry in the Bahamas. It was one of 1.3m files given to the Germany newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung by an anonymous source. The registry is public but details of individual directors are typically incomplete or missing entirely.

    I would feel a little bit bad about using anonymously leaked documents to discover how our new overlords are abusing us, but….well, you know.

    So, let’s see. Oil company CEO? Check. Direct ties to Russian oligarchs? Check. Using a Caribbean tax haven to cheat taxes? Check.

  10. December 19, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Hmmph

    The Republicans’ Desperate Apartheid Calculus
    by David Atkins
    December 17, 2016 7:55 PM

    …………………………………

    The Republican approach to power dynamics here more resembles asymmetric warfare than traditional political conflict: parties that expect to regain power once they have lost it don’t typically behave this way, because they know that bad behavior can become a precedent used against them that will make it difficult for them to govern when they return to power. The Republican strategy here only makes sense if they expect never to regain power once they have lost it.

    There’s a good reason for this, of course. In states like North Carolina, the demographic tide is working against Republicans. There are fewer rural angry whites, and an increasing number of more liberal, younger, browner, better educated and more urban voters moving in. The Republican Party in states like North Carolina has made it a priority to restrict access to the voting booth in a desperate play to prevent their own electoral collapse. Their attempts to disenfranchise poor and minority voters were so egregious that the Supreme Court had to step in to stop them.

    There is a precedent for this sort of political desperation: apartheid South Africa. South African whites knew that to allow true democracy in the colonial nation would mean their permanent disempowerment. Their reaction was to violate international norms and become a pariah in order to hold onto power that, once lost, would never return. Political factions with a legitimate claim on power and a reasonable argument for the majority of the public know they can temporarily give up control in a democracy and win the next time around.

    But Republicans know that absent some sea change that improves their numbers among women and minority voters, they cannot expect to regain power once states like North Carolina are lost to them. And they know that they cannot count on flukes like Donald Trump’s narrow electoral college victory for long as the map continues to shift away from them.

    That’s what makes the current incarnation of the Republican Party so dangerous. They have total control now, but they know their time is limited if elections remain fair. They’re reduced to the apartheid calculus: either implement authoritarian control, or watch everything they have worked for disappear in four to eight years, perhaps forever.

  11. December 19, 2016 at 10:06 am

    Trump’s Most Dangerous Lies
    There’s an insidious strategy behind these falsehoods.

    by Anne Kim
    December 19, 2016

    Advisers to President-elect Donald Trump have given the press and the public some remarkable advice: to take “seriously” but not “literally” the words of the next leader of the free world.

    This formulation – first articulated by reporter Selena Zito – was originally an effort to explain why so many of Trump’s obviously outlandish statements didn’t seem to bother his supporters (“he doesn’t really mean to build a wall…”). But it’s since become the mantra of Trump’s boosters to justify the mix of half-cocked 3 a.m. Twitter rants, conspiracy theories, half-truths and outright falsehoods that seem to comprise the bulk of Trump’s communications with the public. As Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s first campaign manager, put it: “This is the problem with the media. You guys took everything Donald Trump said so literally. And the problem with that is the American people didn’t.”
    ………………………

    Trump: “The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history.” (Trump transition team statement, Dec. 11, 2016)
    Truth: Trump’s electoral college victory ranks 46th out of 58.

    Trump: (On the hacking of the DNC) – “They have no idea if it’s Russia or China or somebody. It could be somebody sitting in a bed some place.” (Fox News Sunday, Dec. 11, 2016)
    Truth: U.S. intelligence officials know exactly which Russian officials were behind the hacking of the DNC.

    Trump: “I will be holding a major news conference in New York City with my children on December 15 to discuss the fact that I will be leaving my great business in total in order to fully focus on running the country in order to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (Twitter, Nov. 30, 2016)
    Truth: Trump’s business empire is staying in the family.

    Trump: “Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!” (Twitter, Dec. 6, 2016)
    Truth: There is no current contract for this amount with Boeing.

    Trump: “The President of Taiwan CALLED ME today to wish me congratulations on winning the Presidency. Thank you!” (Twitter, Dec. 2, 2016)
    Truth: Trump’s call with Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen was months in the making with cooperation from both sides.

    Trump: “…I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally” (Twitter, Nov. 27, 2016)
    Truth: There is no evidence whatsoever of any sort of widespread voter fraud.

  12. December 19, 2016 at 10:07 am

    Primal nonsense: A message to “progressive” radicals who voted Trump to punish Democrats

    Spandan Chakrabarti
    December 18, 2016
    After an election campaign where Russia hacked, Wikileaks leaked, and the media played willing instruments of a foreign power whose goal was the selection of Donald Trump as president, Hillary Clinton still won nearly 3 million more votes than the supposed victor. Even after an election in which the far Left, the entire Right and a foreign power joined forces to drive a false narrative of the Democratic nominee as untrustworthy, it is her opponent looking to enter the oval office with the lowest of approval ratings in memory.

    But that isn’t stopping the media’s attempt to portray the Democratic party in tatters. An essay out this weekend in Politico Magazine depicts the story of a black “progressive” woman in Colorado who voted for Donald Trump along with her chronically ill son, out of her “disgust” for the Democratic party and its “establishment.” Rhetorically, Politico asks if Democrats will care enough to win her (and people like her) back.

    Rhetorical or not, there should not be any consternation about the clear answer to that question. No. The likes of Kim Cohen (the star of Politico’s story) not only have no place in shaping the Democratic party of the future, they have written themselves out of any positive aspects of the American experiment itself.

    Democrats should not be pursuing the vote of someone who believes that their personal misgivings with the Democratic party is so important that they have “nothing to lose” by handing over the levers of power to the most corrupt, regressive regime in at least a century. The Democratic party should not be salivating over the vote of someone whose manufactured outrage against the Democratic party “establishment” is enough to overcome any semblance of patriotism.

    • 24 0388jojothecat
      December 19, 2016 at 1:31 pm

      What is more “disgusting” than DT and the things he has said and done? This “Black Progressive and her chronically ill son voted for DT or 3rd party because she was not in love with the DEMs will be singing a different song in a few months when her son can’t get disability or if the GOP privatize SS or loads up the SCOTUS with RW nut jobs. These people can go to hell for all I care.

  13. December 19, 2016 at 10:16 am

    Good morning, NW and TODville. Hope you are able to stay safe and warm today.

  14. 27 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 10:25 am

    • December 19, 2016 at 12:32 pm

      I saw where some right wing idiot were talking about how we didn’t say anything when Romney won the popular vote and Obama the college electoral. I told this nutcase that only happen in his racists mind. Because President Obama won the popular vote and the electoral college.

    • 29 No Child Left Behind
      December 19, 2016 at 1:03 pm

      All the lies the Jackass-Elect has uttered have been unequivocally believed by his brainless followers, some of which fell in love with him when he became the Chief Birther.

      To wit, these people couldn’t care less about the popular vote, so long as this vulgar and filthy man ascends to the WH.

    • 30 0388jojothecat
      December 19, 2016 at 1:23 pm

      Whenever I hear a poll that people believe positive things about President Treason I know they only polled Republicans.

  15. 31 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 10:26 am

  16. 32 arapaho415
    December 19, 2016 at 11:41 am

    GM TODville.

    Just posted this on the previous thread — meant to post on today’s morning thread (not yesterday’s 😳 ).

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    In response to rikyrah’s post upthread re: BJ comments, IMHO, this is best response I’ve seen:

    We can’t acquiesce and timidly allow this moron fascist with the bad hair to replace democracy with oligarchy and kleptocracy.

    #NeverTrump #Resist

  17. 36 Judith Fardig
    December 19, 2016 at 11:51 am

    The friendships between PBO and VP, FLOTUS and VFLOTUS and in fact, their entire families is a thing of beauty. May they always have joy in each other’s company.

    • 37 0388jojothecat
      December 19, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      I loved the video it made my heart sing with joy. What two truly wonderful people that the world never really got to know because the media couldn’t make money off showing good relationship between a President and VP & their families.

  18. 38 sherijr
    December 19, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Sooo I just came from my local post office… standing in line when the man next to me- who looked like Santa Claus -says ” they should have 5 people working instead of just 2″. I said- well pretty soon, they’ll be nobody working in any post office, thanks to Trump and the republicans, we’ll have no post offices. Of course that wasn’t enough said for me… I went on to say that the 60 million fools that voted with him will also be without Healthcare, medicare, social security and public education. He says, “I was a teacher for many years and I think education should be a personal responsibility since it’s free anyway,.. with the internet”. No I am not kidding. I said how very uneducated of you.. I said the internet is far from free.. and neither is education free. In fact my son who goes to school in Baltimore city has to ride a city bus to and from school like 80% of Baltimore city kids.. and without GOVT Aid they’d walk (24 miles round trip for my son) or they’d not have education. Most of the kids get a bus pass to pay for their bus transp. How does an admitted TEACHER think education/internet is FREE? Anyhooo.. another lady in line gave me a thumbs up. 🙂
    In fact since we’ve had our repub gov… the bus passes no longer allow for kids to have extra curricular activities because now they can not ride the bus past 6pm on their passes.. prior it was 8pm. That cancels out a lot of kids. Republicans make my heart Bleed. They cannot see past their own wee lives. Nor, I believe, do they care too.

    • 39 0388jojothecat
      December 19, 2016 at 1:20 pm

      This asshats educations was “free” thanks to the people who paid for him to go and the generations prior to him, but hey he got his and forget everyone elses kids who will be paying his medicare and SS if they did not op out. Many teachers especially in California opt out of SS for a pension. Those pensions are paid by the people who live in the states property taxes and other taxes.

    • 41 purpleshoesla
      December 19, 2016 at 3:15 pm

      Bravo sherijr for speaking up. Gotta wonder what and where this “teacher” was teaching during his “many years”.

      • 42 sherijr
        December 19, 2016 at 5:30 pm

        I know, and I can kick myself for not asking that question of him. Afterwards, outside the other lady pulled me over and we had a nice chat at his expense 🙂 It felt good to find a like mind.

    • 43 pkayden
      December 19, 2016 at 3:21 pm

      This is why we should never vote for a Republican, even one who appears to be nice like our current MD Governor.

      • 44 sherijr
        December 19, 2016 at 5:27 pm

        I agree, I have never voted for any republican and I never will. I remember he ran on lowering taxes. I paid twice as much property taxes this year as I did the previous 3 years. I am low income, therefore my taxes are low compared to others.. but this year they doubled, no other reason as far as I know.

    • 45 jacquelineoboomer
      December 19, 2016 at 4:03 pm

      Keep fighting the good fight, darlin’!!!! ❤

  19. 47 globalcitizenlinda
    December 19, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    preliminary reports: the Russian ambassador to Turkey has been shot in Ankara.

  20. December 19, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    • 49 COS
      December 19, 2016 at 1:19 pm

      Axelrod could have kept this statement to himself. I have very mixed feelings about him now. What happened to Gibbs? I don’t see him anymore.

      • 50 sherijr
        December 19, 2016 at 1:36 pm

        Yep me too, not appreciating his comments- as you say, not even necessary.

      • December 19, 2016 at 5:26 pm

        Gibbs EVP & Global Chief Comm guy for McDonalds……..job prevents him from publicly commenting in most cases whereas Jay Carney is SVP at Amazon and they give him the leeway to say whatever he wants (mostly on twitter).

    • 52 purpleshoesla
      December 19, 2016 at 3:11 pm

      Co-sign RanMan. I’ve been giving this guy the side-eye ever since he left Pres. Obama’s administration and started flapping his gums as a pundit/shilling for his recent book. But was really through when he was on Bill Mahr’s show recently with John Legend trying to float the idea that Donald Trump wasn’t really a racist but was just using racist rhetoric as campaign tactic which too him was even more offensive. Bish, whet?

      • December 19, 2016 at 3:42 pm

        Purpleshoes, like you, I was done with Axelrod when I seen a video of him spewing that Bull💩 on the Bill Mahr’s show that Trump wasn’t really a racist, even though the Trump’s were sued for housing-discrimination.

        I was losing respect for him prior to that Bill Mahr’s incident.

    • 54 pkayden
      December 19, 2016 at 3:24 pm

      The country is already ripped apart, David. We have someone who benefited from voter suppression claiming that he won the popular vote.

    • December 19, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      Have seen many tweets from Axelrod over the past year or so which made me question where his head is at. After the one above, I finally unfollowed him.

    • December 19, 2016 at 7:06 pm

      This is privilege speaking.

  21. December 19, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    is the voting by the electoral college by secret ballot

  22. 58 No Child Left Behind
    December 19, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    Newest nominee to the Club of billionaires.

  23. December 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    What seem like a Great true and genuine friendship looks so Real I enjoyed the video With smiles♥️

  24. December 19, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    The media is focused on Trumps cabinet.. what is brewing in Congress re: the safety net….

  25. December 19, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    Good afternoon TOD folks. Thanks to all for keeping the home fire 🔥 burning bright. This place will always be a beacon to come back to. Bless you Nerdy.

  26. December 19, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/12/19/10599/138

    Once the vote (of the Electors) is tallied in each state, there’s a formal process.

    They will then prepare what is called a “certificate of vote” with the results, which is then mailed or delivered via courier to the National Archives, where it becomes part of the nation’s official records, and to Congress…
    On Friday, Jan. 6, at 1 p.m., members of the House and Senate will meet in the House chamber to count those votes. Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., as the departing president of the Senate, is expected to preside over the count, during which every state’s vote is opened and announced in alphabetical order.

    Mr. Biden will then declare the winner based on who has the majority of votes — at least 270.

    *****************

    so we will not officially know til Jan 6

  27. 65 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    @NYDailyNews 2 hours ago
    State-run Chinese newspaper says Donald Trump has “no sense of how to lead a superpower” — http://nydn.us/2hLAlK1

  28. 69 desertflower
    December 19, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    • 70 pkayden
      December 19, 2016 at 3:44 pm

      This needs to be retweeted millions of times. Trump shouldn’t be able to get away with his lies so easily.

  29. 71 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    • 72 0388jojothecat
      December 19, 2016 at 3:50 pm

      I received an email asking me to sign that a woman who was given life for the sale of crack be pardoned by PBO. Did anyone else get that email. I hope he commutes her sentence. She sounded like a model in-mate, got her education, helped others, and has not been in any trouble while incarcerated.

  30. December 19, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Smiling myself….they are who we fight for…

    Forward>>>>

  31. 74 desertflower
    December 19, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Good going stupid people!

  32. 75 desertflower
    December 19, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    Really? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

  33. 77 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 3:35 pm

  34. 79 JER
    December 19, 2016 at 3:38 pm

  35. December 19, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/12/22/on-optimism-and-despair/
    This was a hard day. Even though I doubted it and figured it would go as it went, while cultivating hope and openness to possibility, there was a tiny part of me that wished and hoped and dreamed and longed, and I just read that the 270 has been passed, so this too is a done deal. Well. BUT today I came across the essay at the link above from Zadie Smith, novelist, which she read in Berln while receiving a literary prize of great presitige and honor It is really wonderful and good and hope you all have time to read it. I cherish each of you and send love and gratitude your way for who you are and how you live and what you mean in the world. Thank you NERdyWonka. Thankyou CHipsticks. Thank you all who show up here and share so much. It matters.

  36. December 19, 2016 at 6:18 pm

  37. December 19, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    Sorry to take over the entire TOD landscape. I did this backwards kind of. The second post above is from twityter, with a link to novelist Zadie Smith’s brilliant and lovely essay. Forgot to say that you should disregard the photo of POTUS and Chancellor Merkel —- or rather, enjoy it because POTUS!!!! always a joy and pleasure, and i love their strong relationship and example of leadership for the good of one and all; but the photo must relate to a later feature in the NY Review of Books, it has no relationship to the essay I have shared which I think you will love. Google Zadie Smith to see her wonderful visage. I have not read her novels — shame on me. Now they are on my Christmas wish list! How about you TOD? I’ll be lots of ZS fans on here, wiser than me!

  38. 84 mtmarilyn
    December 19, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    Good afternoon TODville. Yesterday I attended a workshop sponsored by our local Jewish synagogue and our local Friends Church. It was to be a start for those of us in fear of this election and how to learn to talk and connect with those who disagree with us. It was a wonderful learning time. Small group of about 20, which I felt was a good way to start. The material they are using if From the Tikkun Learning Center started by Hedy & Yumi Schleifer who are children of the Holocaust. Their work is for couples, but it extends to individuals, companies and countries.

    I believe we need to start in small groups locally everywhere. This is a bottom up time. Here is Montana we are really fighting the nazi, alt right influence. Many of my Jewish friends are frightened by all that is happening. I am scared but the fear they have is so deep. I also meant the UM Professor Tobin Miller Shearer, who is head of the African American Studies at the University. He has been put on the watch list by The Turning Point. It’s a list called ‘professorwatchlist,’ put out by a group called The Turning Point, which is a conservative ‘student’ group that is attempting to identify professors who are promoting a dangerous liberal agenda in the classroom. Here is an article about him.
    http://mtpr.org/post/um-professor-conservative-watchlist

    I am excited to be involved in this small group. It is a starting point for me. I have many other things I am doing but this one is very personal. They are also working with Vets for Standing Rock and a group of Muslims and Jews from Israel and Palestine.

  39. 85 Nerdy Wonka
    December 19, 2016 at 6:56 pm

  40. 86 jacquelineoboomer
    December 19, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    One entire day (so far) of not watching any cable news. Been keeping up a little here and on twitter. Sorta kinda have to bite a bullet not to get “drawn in,” but I just couldn’t. Also practicing for so-called inauguration day, when I definitely will not be watching any national stuff.

    Know the feeling?

  41. December 19, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    From 2008 TA-Nehisi Coates. Interesting:

    It ends like it begins. I just tried to read Joan Walsh’s piece on Obama’s need to reach out to women voters. I believe that, not because of Hillary, but because he should treat all members of the coalition like customers who could easily make another choice. Anyway I was humming along in the piece when I hit this disgusting bit:

    [We saw the face of the angry white female backlash against Obama over the weekend, and it was hard not to turn away. On Friday, Geraldine Ferraro complained in a Boston Globe Op-Ed that she’s been demonized for saying that Obama’s presidential run benefited from his being black, and called her treatment “reverse racism.” On Saturday, Harriet Christian replaced Ferraro as the overwrought voice of white female resentment. There she was at the Democratic National Committee meeting, screaming at reporters that Democrats were about to nominate “an inadequate black male who would not have been running had it not been a white woman that was running for president.”

    Beyond Christian’s deplorable reference to Obama as an “inadequate black male” was a wail worth hearing. She also said, “I’m proud to be an older American woman!” I can feel her pain. Reading the sexist attacks on Clinton and her white female supporters, as well as on female journalists and bloggers who’ve occasionally tried to defend her or critique Obama, has been, well, consciousness-raising. Prejudice against older women, apparently, is one of the last non-taboo biases. I’ve been stunned by the extent to which trashing Clinton supporters as washed up old white women is acceptable.]

    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2008/06/the-damage-done/5117/

  42. December 19, 2016 at 7:15 pm

  43. 91 jacquelineoboomer
    December 19, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    Saw on twitter that Trump wants to keep his own security people, and NOT use U.S. Secret Service protection details. No idea if true.

    If true, I have a couple questions:

    1. Who will TRAIN and PAY Trump’s personal security people?

    2. When so-called “VP” Pence – who will be getting Secret Service protection – is with Trump and there’s a problem (or if anyone else with Secret Service protection is with Trump), does Trump’s non-federal security team trump the federal Secret Service detail at the scene? Usually, the Secret Service COMMANDS every situation where the president’s involved, in terms of safety and security – inside and outside our country.

    Every single item relating to Trump’s new plan for the office fills me with dread.

    • December 19, 2016 at 8:12 pm

      who determines whether he can do this or not

      • 93 jacquelineoboomer
        December 19, 2016 at 9:06 pm

        Was going to look that up, but got so disgusted I dropped it. He makes his own rules. Surely some national security person will be speaking to him about it. If he agrees to let them.

        • December 19, 2016 at 10:55 pm

          i wonder how much the GOP will allow DT to get away with…this from the older members of congress…the newer members may not care…they do not seem to know much about how government operates and want to destroy the federal government…Ryan and company are salivating over the prospects of destroying the safety net…they just need his signature…perhaps that will be the trade off..

          • 95 jacquelineoboomer
            December 19, 2016 at 11:04 pm

            That’s the direction I’m seeing. There have been zero positive steps, since his so-called election. It’s mind boggling.

  44. December 19, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    Get ready to go see FLOTUS interview with Oprah. See you later.


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