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  1. 1 desertflower
    December 4, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    So if they failed, how were they allowed to buy guns? Oh, nevermind. Republicans are coming for your guns, morons!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/exclusive-feds-issue-4-000-orders-seize-guns-people-who-failed-background-checks/901017001/?csp=breakingnews

  2. 3 desertflower
    December 4, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    • 4 GGAIL
      December 4, 2017 at 4:55 pm

      Susan’s response shows that they do pay attention and hear is when we push back with calls and protest.
      She says in the article that she may change her vote on the last go-round.

      Keep calling people everywhere, let your congressional leaders hear from you and show up at their office.

      Good job Maine! 😊

  3. December 4, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    MORE President Obama to come:

  4. December 4, 2017 at 3:30 pm

  5. 9 Nena20409
    December 4, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    Au ⭐ for DF, Congrats.
    Thanks, NW for the new Post. Obrigada!

  6. 12 Nena20409
    December 4, 2017 at 3:41 pm

  7. 15 Nena20409
    December 4, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    Later, TODbots 😉

  8. December 4, 2017 at 4:45 pm

  9. December 4, 2017 at 4:46 pm

  10. December 4, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    It’s going to conference. Keep fighting……

  11. December 4, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    beyond disgusting……beyond

  12. December 4, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    Wow!!

  13. December 4, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Manafort has been busy writing op eds with Russian intelligence so he’s apparently violated the court’s GAG order. Mueller is pressing the judge to deny Paul Manafort’s request to release him from house arrest

  14. December 4, 2017 at 6:05 pm

  15. December 4, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    REVBarber is moving this forward>>>>

  16. December 4, 2017 at 6:18 pm

  17. December 4, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    WOWWWWWWWWW….Holder speaking Truth to POWER…..

    It is allllllllll hands on deck!!

  18. December 4, 2017 at 7:04 pm

  19. December 4, 2017 at 7:06 pm

  20. 39 globalcitizenlinda
    December 4, 2017 at 7:22 pm

  21. 40 arapaho415
    December 4, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    GE TODville.

    This nation is under siege.

    It is impossible to keep up with all the harm members of this Administration are doing on a daily basis because it’s every member of the Cabinet, every GOPer in the House and Senate.

    Except for scrooge-like business owners, I cannot imagine ANY red state Trumpaloon will be happy when this happens:

    I need to update my pinned tweet and add “impoverish” us all…

  22. 41 arapaho415
    December 4, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    Bobfr posted a tweet on this upthread — here’s a clarification for those who aren’t familiar with the details of the #GOPtaxscam (like myself):

  23. 43 globalcitizenlinda
    December 4, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    I hope there is someone or some organization is keeping a record of all the policies and rules that are being changed or reversed by the homegrown demagogue and fellow republican scumbags.

    this record should then be used as a reference to just replace them to PBO-era or below

  24. December 4, 2017 at 10:21 pm

  25. 48 jacquelineoboomer
    December 4, 2017 at 11:01 pm

  26. December 4, 2017 at 11:15 pm

  27. 50 GGAIL
    December 4, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    Huge fire burning in Santa Paula and we have Swift Santa Ana high winds. The flames on the mountains are swirling with embers going in all directions.
    Pray for the people in that area.

    • 51 jacquelineoboomer
      December 4, 2017 at 11:40 pm

      Oh my goodness. Just said a prayer!

    • December 5, 2017 at 6:54 am

      My heart breaks for everything there. This is a very dangerous season. Let’s hope for progress soon. Stay safe, SoCal.

    • 55 arapaho415
      December 5, 2017 at 10:45 am

      GM GGail.

      Update on #ThomasFire in Ventura County below, threatening the core of the city of Ventura. 😦

      These Santa Ana winds have been unrelentingly ferocious — and forecast to continue through Thursday. Such a dangerous time for all of us in SoCal. 😦

      Will update on #ThomasFire (since I’ve lived in Ventura County for almost 40 years, very familiar with most everything within its borders).

    • 56 Judith Fardig
      December 5, 2017 at 11:02 am

      The Ventura fires this time of year are horrific! Well, any time of year, California has suffered a great deal from fires and will continue to do so until we do better controlling carbon pollution.

  28. December 4, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    Goodnight TOD ….

    • 58 arapaho415
      December 5, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      GM Dr. Bob.

      That photograph looks like it could have been taken above downtown Ventura, California (sometime before today, unfortunately).

      Today’s #ThomasFire hit close to home because I live in eastern Ventura County, and I’ve lived in the city of Ventura — which has perfect weather (seems like it’s always 75F there, both in Summer and Winter) and the quaint old town section is sleepy compared to many other areas in Southern California.

      Here’s the view from my neck of the woods this morning (that’s smoke, not fog 😦 ):

      Here’s a comparison that your photograph reminded me of:

      And today:

      One more, to give you a sense of what it looks like at Ventura harbor this morning:

  29. 59 jacquelineoboomer
    December 5, 2017 at 1:30 am

  30. 60 Anjo
    December 5, 2017 at 1:37 am

    Congrats AMK on your yoouge success…waay behind, trying to catch up, keep getting interrupted by indictments of ‘innocent’ people

  31. December 5, 2017 at 6:57 am

    Oh, I hope this evidence is bearing fruit. Big big big baskets of fruit.

  32. December 5, 2017 at 7:01 am

    The Year of Horribles.

  33. December 5, 2017 at 7:05 am

    I hope SoCal doesn’t go through what NorCal did. Please stay safe, everyone.

  34. December 5, 2017 at 7:24 am

    America, 2017: Today SCOTUS hears oral arguments on gay cake.

    • 67 arapaho415
      December 5, 2017 at 10:57 am

      But you know it’s far worse than a wedding cake argument — it’s about whether corporate interests can override an individual’s freedom of speech. 😦

      For those who missed it when posted on Sunday night:

  35. 69 desertflower
    December 5, 2017 at 8:00 am

    Morning everyone:) Imma go to THEIR party!

  36. 70 amk for obama
    December 5, 2017 at 8:02 am

    The ugly stench and stain of trumpturd and the treasonous thugs and their voting racist base is gonna take a long and sustained efforts to clean up, isn’t it?

  37. 74 desertflower
    December 5, 2017 at 8:03 am

    Jackass is going to be mad that PBO’s tweets made the top spot 3 times last year….and his didn’t make ANY. Sucks to be him. This was a fav…(and my wallpaper)

  38. 77 desertflower
    December 5, 2017 at 8:14 am

    DId you all see this mess? JHC

  39. 78 amk for obama
    December 5, 2017 at 8:21 am

    The furst woman prez of us of a? Us indians think so.

    Kamala Harris: The World’s Top Thinker

    http://www.rediff.com/news/special/kamala-harris-the-worlds-top-thinker/20171205.htm

  40. December 5, 2017 at 8:35 am

    WELP

  41. 84 desertflower
    December 5, 2017 at 8:51 am

  42. 85 desertflower
    December 5, 2017 at 8:54 am

  43. 86 desertflower
    December 5, 2017 at 9:01 am

    WTF????

    http://thehill.com/policy/international/363260-us-embassies-warned-to-boost-security-ahead-of-possible-jerusalem

    The State Department is reportedly warning U.S. embassies around the world to tighten security ahead of a possible announcement on the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital by President Trump on Wednesday.

    Politico reports that State Department officials are worried Trump’s possible declaration could lead to violence targeting U.S. embassies and diplomatic staff.

    “The impending Jerusalem announcement has me very worried about the possibility of violent responses that could affect embassies,” a State Department official told the news outlet. “I hope I’m wrong.”

    The U.S. currently recognizes Tel Aviv as Israel’s capital, and the U.S. embassy is located there. Under a 1995 law, the president must recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital or make a declaration every six months that such a move would harm U.S. national security interests.

  44. December 5, 2017 at 9:14 am

  45. 88 GGAIL
    December 5, 2017 at 9:43 am

    My heart is breaking as I watch the news this morning. Whole neighborhoods are burning. Home after Home is on fire in Ventura

  46. December 5, 2017 at 9:46 am

    I know it’s The Intercept, but this is Prince, and he’s been trying to find a way to fleece the US Government again.

    TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WEIGHING PLANS FOR PRIVATE SPIES TO COUNTER “DEEP STATE” ENEMIES
    Matthew Cole, Jeremy Scahill
    December 4 2017, 9:24 p.m

    THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump’s presidency.
    ……………………………………………………………………

    “Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”

    • 91 arapaho415
      December 5, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      GM/GA rikyrah.

      I am obsessed with this news, and am collecting as much information about all the tendrils of malice, corruption, and overpaid American oligarchs which tie this story together. This will take some time, unfortunately.

      IMHO, the impetus for this horrifying turn of events is American’s LOVE OF GUNS and MONEY. We’re now in GWB Adm-level of rendition, tortures and “missing persons” who don’t agree with #Trumpistan, our current authoritarian state.

      As I collect more information I will share it here, but first let’s start with Ryan Zinke’s background (he is the glue holding this together, and the catalyst, along with Betsy DeVos’ brother Erik Prince).

      In 2012, Zinke was Neil Livingstone’s running mate for Montana Governor:

      Here’s the Buzzfeed article on Amyntor:

  47. December 5, 2017 at 9:50 am

  48. 93 arapaho415
    December 5, 2017 at 9:51 am

    GM TODville.

    Cannot believe I woke up to the news of the wildfire that is threatening downtown Ventura CA — I’m so nervous now, and having a hard time finding maps to show you, to give you a sense of what a human and HISTORICAL disaster this is.

    Google and Twitter search are failing me, no doubt because this fire EXPLODED in size during our wee hours, and the WINDS have been howling since early yesterday morning.

    To the south and east, nothing to stop this fire except the Pacific Ocean to the west, and Santa Barbara may be in trouble too.

    (I’m in no danger from this fire — who knows about what will happen until the fierce Santa Ana winds subside, which is forecast on Thursday or so 😦 ).

    Will update as I get more info, but here’s what I’ve gathered so far:

    12:30am PST

    1:15am PST

    2:20am PST

    2:50 am PST

    6:00am PST

    more…

  49. December 5, 2017 at 10:01 am

    • 95 arapaho415
      December 5, 2017 at 10:51 am

      Thanks, Meta!

      I’m keeping an eye on this devastating fire, since it hits so close to home — started a running Twitter thread with updates.

      Also just posted that Conyers announced his retirement…

      For perspective, I tried to eyeball locations of major points of interest on that map:

      • December 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

        You’re most welcome. I know how you like maps.

        This is another very scary fire. PLEASE stay safe and keep us updated.

      • December 5, 2017 at 12:25 pm

        • 98 arapaho415
          December 5, 2017 at 12:44 pm

          Thanks again Meta.

          I’m feeling better than I did this morning, waking up to the news of the #ThomasFire.

          The wind is actually beginning to calm down a bit (still gusty Santa Ana winds, but not as unrelenting as yesterday and last night).

          Now that the sun’s up and the fire looks to no longer burn to the ocean via downtown Ventura, it looks like the worst has passed — still lots of damage already done — but the situation in Ventura County seems less dire than at daybreak.

          Posted some before/after photos in response to Bobfr upthread (and a view of what it looks like in my neck of the woods).

          Good roundup by @latimes (fire began near hiking trail at 6:30 pm yesterday — potential arson, maybe? Cannot tell you how much I loathe people who think it would be fun to light a fire in the chaparral on the windiest day of the year).

          And this is what leads me to believe the worst is over — if this person was able to get to this park overlooking downtown Ventura (before and after tweets posted upthread in response to Bobfr):

          • December 5, 2017 at 1:22 pm

            I’m so glad and relieved to hear you think things are getting better. I surely hope so. I’d really hate to see this horrible situation for Californians worsen. I’ll keep everyone in my thoughts.

    • 101 Mtmarilyn2
      December 5, 2017 at 11:06 am

      My prayers for all there. Arapahoe405, please be safe.

  50. December 5, 2017 at 10:07 am

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/4/17
    News gods signal busy holiday season
    Rachel Maddow notes that the news in between Thanksgiving and Christmas can be quiet as audiences and newsmakers are distracted by the holidays. This year that does not appear to be the case, however.

  51. December 5, 2017 at 10:14 am

    Race Bannon had his set of lies about the Flynn mess set up because of the old lies that Dolt45 told. Now that they’re trying to change the narrative of the Flynn mess, with regards to Dolt45, that makes Pence’s lies obsolete. They went around trying to protect Dolt45, and Pence is left out on the branch alone.

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/4/17
    Trump lawyers change defense on collusion and obstruction
    Rachel Maddow points out that Donald Trump’s lawyers’ arguments about Trump’s legal liability in the Russia scandal have changed from denying Trump’s actions to excusing them as not illegal. Also noted is that Mike Pence’s lies about Mike Flynn need a new explanation.

  52. December 5, 2017 at 10:22 am

    Republicans Broke Congress. Now What?
    by Nancy LeTourneau
    December 5, 2017

    Over the weekend Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein took their assertion about asymmetric polarization one step further and wrote, “How the Republicans Broke Congress.” They pointed to three steps in the process:

    First, beginning in the 1990s, the Republicans strategically demonized Congress and government more broadly and flouted the norms of lawmaking, fueling a significant decline of trust in government that began well before the financial collapse in 2008, though it has sped up since…

    Second, there was the “Obama effect”…we saw a deliberate Republican strategy to oppose all of his initiatives and frame his attempts to compromise as weak or inauthentic. The Senate under the majority leader Mitch McConnell weaponized the filibuster to obstruct legislation, block judges and upend the policy process…

    Third, we have seen the impact of significant changes in the news media, which had a far greater importance on the right than on the left.

  53. December 5, 2017 at 10:29 am

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/4/17
    Trump team turns to specious legal arguments as pressure builds
    Bob Bauer, former White House counsel, talks with Rachel Maddow about Donald Trump’s legal jeopardy in the Russia scandal, and whether Trump has it within his power to make the Robert Mueller and the Trump Russia investigation go away.

  54. December 5, 2017 at 10:37 am

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/4/17
    Protesters out in droves objecting to Republican tax bill
    Rachel Maddow looks at protests across the United States against the Republican tax bill, recognized widely as a giveaway to corporations and rich people at the expense of middle class Americans.

  55. December 5, 2017 at 10:41 am

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/4/17
    White House offers conflicting stories on firing Flynn for lies
    Carol Leonnig, reporter for The Washington Post, talks with Rachel Maddow about what Donald Trump knew about Mike Flynn’s lies to the FBI, when he knew it and who told him as different versions are being put forth by different players in the case.

  56. 108 arapaho415
    December 5, 2017 at 10:46 am

    Outside of Ventura County CA, this is the biggest news of the day so far:

    • December 5, 2017 at 1:15 pm

      out of all the folks who have done sexual misconduct in Congress…(see congressional slush fund. to pay victims) ONLY the Blk Man retires….i have not heard any more about Al Franken…and a pedophile is about to be elected to the Senate ..to join the sexual predator in the WH…but…they got out the BlkMan…

      • December 5, 2017 at 1:21 pm

        so tired of this shit….we see how much TRUMP and his people have wrought…yet the DEMS and the media pundits still can not talk about how racism and white supremacy played a pivotal role in TRUMP’S election….same for Moore in Alabama…that racism and white supremacy even trumps pedophilia……so that blk man gets to be a target…what about all those Congressman who are still in Congress who used the slush fun to silence their victims….they need to be OUTed….the Congresswomen who have spoken on this know who they are…..OUT THEM…

  57. 111 whenpamelawandered
    December 5, 2017 at 10:55 am

    ❤️

  58. 112 Don
    December 5, 2017 at 11:02 am

    Now that Conyers has retired, when should we expect Franken to retire. And where is the groundswell for Franken to leave? I’m sick and fucking tired of black politicians being held to a different standard, it’s not fair at all. Pelosi pushed for Conyers to leave, is she going to have that same conviction and push for Franken to leave?

    • 113 Mtmarilyn2
      December 5, 2017 at 11:09 am

      Why do you want Franken to leave?

      • 114 Don
        December 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

        Franken has said out of his own mouth that he has made mistakes. How can we dismiss what Franken did and not Conyers? What is so special about Franken that we want him to stay after multiple women have come forward and accused Franken of misbehavior? Franken himself has apologized for his behavior. Kevin Spacey is in my top five favorite actors of all time, but he had to go because of his behavior. We can’t go after Moore for his behavior and look the other way when it comes to Franken’s behavior.

        • 115 Mtmarilyn2
          December 5, 2017 at 12:53 pm

          Have you read the letters all the women who have worked or are currently working for Franken have written. The wome who have accused Franken are just a one time situation each nothing on going. Franken has asked for an investigation. That should go ahead. There is a big difference in all theses cases. We can’t just lump them all as the same. They are going after Joy Reid for something she wrote 10years ago. We have to be careful.

        • 116 0388jojothecat
          December 5, 2017 at 2:33 pm

          Conyers is 88 yrs old, held meetings in his underwear and pajamas. He was accused of sexual harassment and paid her out of his own funds. Franken’s situation is much different. The behavior was not of being unclothed and asking for sex and creating a hostile workplace. This is a matter of putting his hands where they should not be while taking a picture. Conyers appears to have dementia and it is time for him to step down. He has done a lot of good and his legacy should not be tarnished any further.

  59. December 5, 2017 at 11:39 am

    Looks like it’s happening. Trump told Abbas this morning that he plans to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, Abbas spokesman Nabil Abu Rudineih says. Abbas warned Trump of the dangers of making that move.

    — Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) December 5, 2017

    News breaking that @POTUS Donald #Trump has informed the #Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas he will move the #US Embassy to #Jerusalem. #Turkey warns it will cut diplomatic ties with #Israel. #CBC

    — Margaret Evans (@mevansCBC) December 5, 2017

  60. December 5, 2017 at 11:42 am

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/1/17
    Why did Trump ignore repeated warnings Flynn was compromised?
    Rachel Maddow looks at the warnings Donald Trump received about Mike Flynn and the inexplicable way Trump held Flynn in favor even after he left office.

  61. December 5, 2017 at 11:46 am

  62. December 5, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    BREAKING: The Atlantic is reporting that VP Mike Pence had gone behind Trump’s back to the RNC and offered to replace Trump on the GOP ticket after the Access Hollywood tape came out. Additionally there are reports that Pence’s wife HATES Trump.— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) December 5, 2017

  63. December 5, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    Thread on oral arguments today at SCOTUS.

  64. December 5, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    Federal law caps some federal employees’ premium pay and permits agencies to recover money paid in excess of the maximum from future paychecks. FEMA says the extraordinary year of hurricanes, wildfires and other disasters means it may have to take that step.

    “This year’s unprecedented hurricane season led to a record-setting length of national activation,” the agency said in an emailed statement. “Due to the extended work hours involved in supporting disaster recovery and response efforts for multiple storms, some employees have been affected by the annual maximum earnings limitation.”


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